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January 01, 2020, 10:46:47 AM
Wow, I didn't really notice that Clarkson was already traded for the Jazz in exchange for Exum.
He is doing quite well in Jazz and I was really shocked when I saw him.

I guess that is because I have not been watching too much Jazz games and Cavs.
Suddenly, Mitchell could focus on being and off guard rather than doing both Jazz and they got Conley too as back up but I will also prefer Conley to be the shooter waiting for the ball. Let Clarkson handle the play.

They can even win against a strong Clippers.  Shocked
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January 01, 2020, 09:04:03 AM
Still it's a win for the Lakers. Though it's a huge gap on their moneyline, I would still put my money on the Lakers. The young core of the suns cannot easily defeat the Lakers but the only thing thing that's bothering me is -11 and +11 for the suns which gives the upper hand for them.

You sure on betting on the Lakers via ML mate? ATM, it's 1.13 Lakers, meaning you will win only 13% of what you have bet and for you to win a substantial amount, you have to bet substantial amount also which is very risky since the Lakers could be beaten by any teams in the NBA. You should explore the spread, that what makes betting exciting.

If it will result for a win even 13% winning, I would take that. Also I am doubting because of the +11 for the sun's which is too much for the Lakers to win. I am not a total risk taker so if I were to bet for the Lakers, I will only bet an amount I am willing to lose. Anyways, let's see if something will change tomorrow.

And the Suns already won twice before they will play later on against the Lakers.
This is why it is so much doubtful to bet against them.
You should really reconsider it since there is not much profit to happen with betting for the Lakers.
Me? I wont, I would rather take the risk here.

I would rather take the larger profit than bet for winning not much. You could say I am a risk taker.  Grin
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January 01, 2020, 08:25:25 AM
Still it's a win for the Lakers. Though it's a huge gap on their moneyline, I would still put my money on the Lakers. The young core of the suns cannot easily defeat the Lakers but the only thing thing that's bothering me is -11 and +11 for the suns which gives the upper hand for them.

You sure on betting on the Lakers via ML mate? ATM, it's 1.13 Lakers, meaning you will win only 13% of what you have bet and for you to win a substantial amount, you have to bet substantial amount also which is very risky since the Lakers could be beaten by any teams in the NBA. You should explore the spread, that what makes betting exciting.

If it will result for a win even 13% winning, I would take that. Also I am doubting because of the +11 for the sun's which is too much for the Lakers to win. I am not a total risk taker so if I were to bet for the Lakers, I will only bet an amount I am willing to lose. Anyways, let's see if something will change tomorrow.

The line is quite favorable for the Suns, but why the Lakers are -11, is this line a big trap for us or Lakers are just too good against the suns at home?
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January 01, 2020, 06:58:17 AM
Still it's a win for the Lakers. Though it's a huge gap on their moneyline, I would still put my money on the Lakers. The young core of the suns cannot easily defeat the Lakers but the only thing thing that's bothering me is -11 and +11 for the suns which gives the upper hand for them.

You sure on betting on the Lakers via ML mate? ATM, it's 1.13 Lakers, meaning you will win only 13% of what you have bet and for you to win a substantial amount, you have to bet substantial amount also which is very risky since the Lakers could be beaten by any teams in the NBA. You should explore the spread, that what makes betting exciting.

If it will result for a win even 13% winning, I would take that. Also I am doubting because of the +11 for the sun's which is too much for the Lakers to win. I am not a total risk taker so if I were to bet for the Lakers, I will only bet an amount I am willing to lose. Anyways, let's see if something will change tomorrow.
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January 01, 2020, 06:18:42 AM
Still it's a win for the Lakers. Though it's a huge gap on their moneyline, I would still put my money on the Lakers. The young core of the suns cannot easily defeat the Lakers but the only thing thing that's bothering me is -11 and +11 for the suns which gives the upper hand for them.

You sure on betting on the Lakers via ML mate? ATM, it's 1.13 Lakers, meaning you will win only 13% of what you have bet and for you to win a substantial amount, you have to bet substantial amount also which is very risky since the Lakers could be beaten by any teams in the NBA. You should explore the spread, that what makes betting exciting.
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January 01, 2020, 04:34:46 AM
LA Lakers  against the Phoenix Suns later.
LA -11 @-700 Moneyline while Phoenix Suns +11 @+500

Bet at your own risk.   Grin
It will definitely give a lot of boost to the Suns player if they win.
But if not, at least lose at a single digit deficit. +11 is not that bad. There is still garbage time afterwards.  Grin


Still it's a win for the Lakers. Though it's a huge gap on their moneyline, I would still put my money on the Lakers. The young core of the suns cannot easily defeat the Lakers but the only thing thing that's bothering me is -11 and +11 for the suns which gives the upper hand for them.
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January 01, 2020, 02:30:28 AM
LA Lakers  against the Phoenix Suns later.
LA -11 @-700 Moneyline while Phoenix Suns +11 @+500

Bet at your own risk.   Grin
It will definitely give a lot of boost to the Suns player if they win.
But if not, at least lose at a single digit deficit. +11 is not that bad. There is still garbage time afterwards.  Grin
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January 01, 2020, 12:04:07 AM
I don't think that Curry has bad intentions when he introduced 3 point shooting though. It's just a way to take advantage of the game and they really milk the hell of out if and become a champion. But soon, everyone is catching up, all of the players are shooting three's including the big man. And it revolutionised how the game is played.
Curry and Thompson, both are good 3 points shooters and have won the all star 3 point shooting in different years.
It's their team because their main offense is coming from 3 points shooters and they get better as they add Durant which is also a good 3 point shooting.

The new generation loved that, but us who were born at the era of Michael Jordan, we like to see a more physical games.

For those who have been born and see watch Michael Jordan against the bad boys from Detroit, we really missed that kind of physical and intimidation game. It makes us old though, lol.

Now we don't have a 'true' centre, except maybe Joel or KAT but this guys are shooting 3's now.

We have true centers in the persons of Dwight Howard and Andre Drummond because these two will never attempt to shoot 3.

I don't consider Dwight though as true centre, in my opinion. He is just so strong when he arrived at the league that's why he became a centre. I would agree with Drummond.
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December 31, 2019, 11:56:35 PM

 The real denver of 80's and 90's was the actual fast run and gun that teams actually play today that nobody really understood the importance back in those days. They had the game with the most points in a game (scored against them) and their avarages were as high as 130 points per game at one point if I am not wrong. Nowadays everyone just uses only 10 seconds of the clock and shoots a three, there is barely any defense, and even if you try to "not defend" someone they get a foul called on them knowing like how harden does it, so its mostly free throws and three pointers.

Different era mate. We really can't compare them in this generation, those are high scoring games because defense is not their priority but to score more points. The game of basketball has really evolved.

Talent is certainly much much better these days, if you put any of current stars back into 80's, they would destroy everyone, they would literally score 50+ points every single game and break Wilts 100, however that doesn't give them right to only focus on offense as the whole league, I miss the times when defense meant not just "tall guy under the basket blocking some people" but actually getting inside others comfort zone and bothering them and tapping the ball etc etc.

I agree, that's why I just go and watch some old school games in youtube for fun shake, specially Detroit's team and how they play defense. Right now its outside shooting and three point shot. But it's good though, we have to accept the fact that the game has change from what we used to watch.
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December 31, 2019, 07:16:02 PM
They are not the first people to actually use the "Point Center" thing in basketball but Jokic is great with passing so people just focus on that.

If you are age allows it when the "triangle" was a success in Lakers Shaq-Kobe era, Shaq had insane vision, he was able to pass to people better than some of the point guards at the time, I know he didn't had the stats that Jokic had when it comes to assists and never broke over 4 assists a game on average but he was super powerful inside and could score at will if not was fouled most of the time so he didn't had to pass most of the time or even had the chance, but when he did dude was a prolific passer as well, remember Lakers convinced Shaq to join by saying they would allow him to playmake with the triangle system as well.

Being a point center in the NBA is more than just passing the ball the thing about Nikola Jokic being a point center is because unlike Shaq he is literally the one bringing the ball down the box as well as luring in the defense while he tries to drive in the basket. You won't see that on Shaq as he lacks the dribbling skill needed to avoid steals and turnovers from happening on each position, Jokic on the other hand might not look like a pro while doing it but it gets the job done. He really looks like a second point guard for the Nuggets which makes the game a little bit more fun.
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December 31, 2019, 01:40:30 PM
Eyeing for the year end matches later. There's the most interesting match which is:
Bulls vs Bucks

Easy game for the Bucks.
They dominated Bulls and the good news is that Giannis returned to the pitch after 2 games already due to a back injury . The thing that concerns me is that Bucks get scoring solutions from Giannis and Khris. This was the 30th win for them.

Against a team that not really a top tier, yes it's an easy win for the Bucks even without Giannis. The Bucks has the momentum coming in to this game and they really did dismantle the bulls and I think their chemistry is what helps them win this match too.
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December 31, 2019, 11:46:28 AM
Eyeing for the year end matches later. There's the most interesting match which is:
Bulls vs Bucks

Easy game for the Bucks.
They dominated Bulls and the good news is that Giannis returned to the pitch after 2 games already due to a back injury . The thing that concerns me is that Bucks get scoring solutions from Giannis and Khris. This was the 30th win for them.

It's not a worry for the bucks, even when Giannis is out they still score a lot of points.  Of course when they are in they get most of the points because the shot volume goes through them.  Like every other team and their top 2 players, other players are there to fill in the gaps and step up when one of them are gone.  Bucks are a really deep team unlike most other teams in the nba
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December 31, 2019, 11:42:43 AM
Shit happened and while thinking that the team is not that good and just easy to defeat ridiculous things will comes up and messed everything. Moving forward there's a lots of game tomorrow to place your bets try to assess whether again and pick the games you wanted to gamble your money. Good luck.
It's true there are still many NBA games that we can bet today. What I regret the least is I bet with small odds. Because looking at the statistics of both I am very sure they will win. Apparently not. Maybe they are not so determined to win because their position in the standings is pretty safe. Going forward it looks like I would rather bet on just total points than who wins and loses
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December 31, 2019, 11:29:46 AM
The last match I bet for the Orlando Magic and the Miami Heat. Both of them lost !!! this really frustrates me. Because the opponents they face aren't that strong. The most ridiculous is Orlando. They were humiliated by Atlanta at home. The team at the bottom of the standings. What a gloomy day for me ...
Shit happened and while thinking that the team is not that good and just easy to defeat ridiculous things will comes up and messed everything. Moving forward there's a lots of game tomorrow to place your bets try to assess whether again and pick the games you wanted to gamble your money. Good luck.
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December 31, 2019, 10:10:42 AM
They are not the first people to actually use the "Point Center" thing in basketball but Jokic is great with passing so people just focus on that.

If you are age allows it when the "triangle" was a success in Lakers Shaq-Kobe era, Shaq had insane vision, he was able to pass to people better than some of the point guards at the time, I know he didn't had the stats that Jokic had when it comes to assists and never broke over 4 assists a game on average but he was super powerful inside and could score at will if not was fouled most of the time so he didn't had to pass most of the time or even had the chance, but when he did dude was a prolific passer as well, remember Lakers convinced Shaq to join by saying they would allow him to playmake with the triangle system as well.
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December 31, 2019, 09:53:42 AM
The last match I bet for the Orlando Magic and the Miami Heat. Both of them lost !!! this really frustrates me. Because the opponents they face aren't that strong. The most ridiculous is Orlando. They were humiliated by Atlanta at home. The team at the bottom of the standings. What a gloomy day for me ...
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December 31, 2019, 09:41:47 AM
Eyeing for the year end matches later. There's the most interesting match which is:
Bulls vs Bucks

Easy game for the Bucks.
They dominated Bulls and the good news is that Giannis returned to the pitch after 2 games already due to a back injury . The thing that concerns me is that Bucks get scoring solutions from Giannis and Khris. This was the 30th win for them.
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December 31, 2019, 09:11:16 AM
I love watching the Denver Nuggets though, they follow the play and a three point shot may be their last option if they cannot penetrate the paint.
You can say I am oldies type of a fan but, old is good right?  Wink

I'm with you on Denver, they should some excitement to us with the way they played.
We should blame the player of the century which is Curry for introducing this, now, even the big mans are already improving their  3 point shooting.

I don't think that Curry has bad intentions when he introduced 3 point shooting though. It's just a way to take advantage of the game and they really milk the hell of out if and become a champion. But soon, everyone is catching up, all of the players are shooting three's including the big man. And it revolutionised how the game is played. Now we don't have a 'true' centre, except maybe Joel or KAT but this guys are shooting 3's now.
Theres no such thing about limitations on how a player should play and we know that being versatile would always be the best yet even you are on a centre position but you are capable on doing outside shots
which do really make out an advantage yet opponent team would really be confused on where they should focus to defend specially if most players on the field are capable on shooting 3s.
Im even shocked that Giannis is even good on shooting in the outside.No doubt this trend will continue on most teams.
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December 31, 2019, 08:31:34 AM
The new generation loved that, but us who were born at the era of Michael Jordan, we like to see a more physical games.
Hand check rule made physical games in NBA obsolete. It is too easy to get fouls and I think that is the reason we have more crybabies in the NBA. They do not know how to play physical anymore.

LOL. It is his style so no one is being forced to recreate what he did.
Look at Pops plays, it is still the same even after the Curry era.

Right. Also, look at Kawhi, he is still primarily a perimeter shooter. There are still players who preferred high percentage shots than long 3 pointers.
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December 31, 2019, 08:20:56 AM

 The real denver of 80's and 90's was the actual fast run and gun that teams actually play today that nobody really understood the importance back in those days. They had the game with the most points in a game (scored against them) and their avarages were as high as 130 points per game at one point if I am not wrong. Nowadays everyone just uses only 10 seconds of the clock and shoots a three, there is barely any defense, and even if you try to "not defend" someone they get a foul called on them knowing like how harden does it, so its mostly free throws and three pointers.

 Talent is certainly much much better these days, if you put any of current stars back into 80's, they would destroy everyone, they would literally score 50+ points every single game and break Wilts 100, however that doesn't give them right to only focus on offense as the whole league, I miss the times when defense meant not just "tall guy under the basket blocking some people" but actually getting inside others comfort zone and bothering them and tapping the ball etc etc.
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