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Quote from: goinmerry on February 04, 2020, 03:38:37 PM

Quote from: boyptc on February 04, 2020, 10:25:17 AM

It is known that Luka is one of the pillars of Dallas and that's why every time he's not on the watch, we used to think that they can easily be beaten.

I think of the opposite. I'm not one of those people who thinks Dallas Mavericks is a team that can easily beat without Luka Doncic. How come we can think of that way if, at some of their games, we can see that they are performing well even without Doncic on the floor. They can still give a close fight to whatever teams. And Porzingis is doing great while Luka is out.

Might be a tricky to other gamblers in terms of odds distributions at some of their games as we can still see a ( - ) points given for Mavericks even Luka is out.

I think the fact that he's a big factor now to the team, fans like me do think like that and it's okay now because they've proven to be a strong team even without the most beloved of their fans.

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Quote from: mirakal on February 05, 2020, 06:30:21 PM

Yeah they need a center who are good in grabbing offensive rebounds as both of them are not a consistent shooter, they just made a lot of attempts that's why they score much in the game.

They might need a center but there are other teams that don't rely on center but still doing great so far this season like Raptors, Pacers, Celtics. Rockets still have their Power Forward and they only need one on the court.

And this is great. Looking at the stats, Rockets are great offensively even Capela is performing well or not. So I think his transfer to another team will not likely consider as Rocket's disadvantage.

Quote from: mirakal on February 05, 2020, 06:30:21 PM

Maybe they just want harden and Westbrook to make all the scoring and will make the others ineffective of their position.

There is no team in the league who will think of that way.

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Quote from: Oasisman on February 05, 2020, 06:06:12 PM

Quote from: Questat on February 05, 2020, 05:52:38 PM

Capela ha a huge contract with the Rockets.

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2774731-clint-capela-rockets-reportedly-agree-to-5-year-90m-contract

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Clint Capela, Rockets Agree to Reported 5-Year, $90M Contract

Well, they might be planning to get some new fresh players, in short they wanted to experiment something as they weren't doing great this season so far compared to the last two seasons. I can only imagine how capela would be very effective with the Hawks since Trae is a good point guard.

I guess they are only worsening their lineup with this experiment. P.J Tucker is way too undersized to be on the center position. Any team could easily dominate them from the paint. Capela was a good piece and additional strength from their defense. I don't know how the Rockets would engage Covington and Bell in their rotation. Rockets need bigmen, specially when Harden and WB is making a lot of fg attempts, they need someone to grab offensive rebounds. Anyway, too early to judge their lineup, let's just see the outcome.

Yeah they need a center who are good in grabbing offensive rebounds as both of them are not a consistent shooter, they just made a lot of attempts that's why they score much in the game. Maybe they just want harden and Westbrook to make all the scoring and will make the others ineffective of their position. Damn people are shocked with this news.... I have no idea what's gonna happen with them without Capela in the line up.

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Quote from: Oasisman on February 05, 2020, 06:06:12 PM

I guess they are only worsening their lineup with this experiment. P.J Tucker is way too undersized to be on the center position. Any team could easily dominate them from the paint. Capela was a good piece and additional strength from their defense. I don't know how the Rockets would engage Covington and Bell in their rotation. Rockets need bigmen, specially when Harden and WB is making a lot of fg attempts, they need someone to grab offensive rebounds. Anyway, too early to judge their lineup, let's just see the outcome.

Rockets will now play a small lineup. I don't see anything wrong but that was a gamble.

We don't know what Rockets are thinking. To the point that they gave up Capela, as we all know how important this guy's role on the team, looks like Rockets are gambling here or maybe they are cooking "something" for the future.

I agree that it's too early to tell if that move will be worst or not. Let's see how they will execute their offense and defense from now on without or minimizing the numbers on the paint.

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Quote from: Questat on February 05, 2020, 05:52:38 PM

Capela ha a huge contract with the Rockets.

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2774731-clint-capela-rockets-reportedly-agree-to-5-year-90m-contract

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Clint Capela, Rockets Agree to Reported 5-Year, $90M Contract

Well, they might be planning to get some new fresh players, in short they wanted to experiment something as they weren't doing great this season so far compared to the last two seasons. I can only imagine how capela would be very effective with the Hawks since Trae is a good point guard.

I guess they are only worsening their lineup with this experiment. P.J Tucker is way too undersized to be on the center position. Any team could easily dominate them from the paint. Capela was a good piece and additional strength from their defense. I don't know how the Rockets would engage Covington and Bell in their rotation. Rockets need bigmen, specially when Harden and WB is making a lot of fg attempts, they need someone to grab offensive rebounds. Anyway, too early to judge their lineup, let's just see the outcome.

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Capela has a huge contract with the Rockets.

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2774731-clint-capela-rockets-reportedly-agree-to-5-year-90m-contract

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Clint Capela, Rockets Agree to Reported 5-Year, $90M Contract

Well, they might be planning to get some new fresh players, in short they wanted to experiment something as they weren't doing great this season so far compared to the last two seasons. I can only imagine how capela would be very effective with the Hawks since Trae is a good point guard.

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It honestly baffles me how hawks just gave one pick and got Capela, they seriously got away with a steal there. I understand the economics of the things going on there but honestly did Rockets really needed to get rid of Capela for that little to make a space? Couldn't they get something of value from Hawks? I am not saying get Trae Young for Capela, that wouldn't be possible but at the same time they could have asked more than just RoCo from a totally different team. Or maybe other teams could have asked more from Hawks either. Whatever happened that we don't know, Hawks just got a whole lot better, don't know if will show its face this year already (which I assume with time it may) but I am definitely sure they basically became a good playoff team for next year with just one trade.

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I think the main reason why Rockets decided to make this deal was to go under luxury tax, now they are under the cap with 6 million dollars and have a second round pick to dish out later with some other picks they have.

This wasn't a trade that coach would have wanted, this wasn't a deal that even GM would have wanted, this is a trade that Owner wanted to happen because they are not making enough money to justify a luxury tax hit yet again so it was only viable for them to send Capela and be done with all of this. Hawks got a great deal out of the situation, I don't really see the other ones are getting anything all that worthy , its a decent one for them to shift things around and all that but honestly the real winner is definitely Hawks there for sure.

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Quote from: stadus on February 05, 2020, 07:57:12 AM

Quote from: Questat on February 05, 2020, 07:14:26 AM

Blazers vs Nuggets - Lillard and company can't play well with the defense of the Nuggets, and they just route the Blazers at home, and too bad, Anthony went scoreless.

Nuggets now are very consistent as a team, they are very good at home and at the same time they can also win on the road.
They'll be playing again on a back to back game, their next game is against the Utah Jazz which they beat at home, so this could be a big revenge for the Jazz looking at the line, however, I won't buy it, the way the Nuggets are performing, it's not a good idea to bet against them.

Nuggets are +8 now, so it says Jazz are really desperate to have a win to break their 4 losing streak.

That's interesting odd since Jazz is on the losing streak winning at home might be a good idea to assess this game though like what you have said with the way Nuggets is playing good defense there is also possibilities that this handicap can be covered.
Might be much better to wait and bet inside live games and see how the players will perform.

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Quote from: Bttzed03 on February 05, 2020, 03:00:49 AM

For some NBA transfer/swap deals, there are reports that the Timberwolves, Hawks, Rockets and Nuggets have reached a four-team deal.

Here's how it looks according to this article

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The Wolves are said to be shipping Robert Covington, Jordan Bell and a 2nd-round pick to Houston; with Clint Capela and Nene on to Atlanta; Keita Bates-Diop, Shabazz Napier, Noah Vonleh, Gerald Green and a Houston 1st-round pick to Denver; as well as Malik Beasley, Juancho Hernangomez, Jarred Vanderbilt, Evan Turner and a 1st-round pick (Atlanta via Brooklyn) heading to Minnesota.

What do you guys think of this four-team deal?

It looks like Rockets is really going for a small ball this time but I don't know how that will work for them with Harden on the ball most of the time. The clear winner for me is Atlanta for getting some reliable bigs but it's probably too late for them this season. Denver has a strong squad already and might have added more depth that will probably help them during playoffs.

Still in process?
February 6 is the deadline right?
I got so confused with the four way team deal. Grin

Why would Houston give Capella? Just for the 2nd round pick? And Malik Beasley of Nuggets traded too? Just as when he is making some good highlights.

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The easiest way to summarize what is happening right now is just making a timeline:

10:18 pm MDT: According to Adrian Wojnarowksi of ESPN, the Denver Nuggets have traded Malik Beasley and Juancho Hernangomez to the Minnesota Timberwolves as part of a four-team deal.

Credits: https://www.denverstiffs.com/2020/2/4/21123765/nuggets-trade-malik-beasley-juancho-hernangomez-and-jarred-vanderbilt-to-minnesota-in-4-team-deal

I think the deal is already done.

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Quote from: Questat on February 05, 2020, 07:14:26 AM

Blazers vs Nuggets - Lillard and company can't play well with the defense of the Nuggets, and they just route the Blazers at home, and too bad, Anthony went scoreless.

Nuggets now are very consistent as a team, they are very good at home and at the same time they can also win on the road.
They'll be playing again on a back to back game, their next game is against the Utah Jazz which they beat at home, so this could be a big revenge for the Jazz looking at the line, however, I won't buy it, the way the Nuggets are performing, it's not a good idea to bet against them.

Nuggets are +8 now, so it says Jazz are really desperate to have a win to break their 4 losing streak.

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There's no close games in the 4 games last night, all the 4 favorites won the game and covered.

Bucks vs Pelicans, - Giannis got another double double and he exposed the Pelicans, looks like Bucks are just too good for them.

Blazers vs Nuggets - Lillard and company can't play well with the defense of the Nuggets, and they just route the Blazers at home, and too bad, Anthony went scoreless.

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Quote from: mirakal on February 05, 2020, 04:52:00 AM

Quote from: Bttzed03 on February 05, 2020, 03:00:49 AM

For some NBA transfer/swap deals, there are reports that the Timberwolves, Hawks, Rockets and Nuggets have reached a four-team deal.

Here's how it looks according to this article

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The Wolves are said to be shipping Robert Covington, Jordan Bell and a 2nd-round pick to Houston; with Clint Capela and Nene on to Atlanta; Keita Bates-Diop, Shabazz Napier, Noah Vonleh, Gerald Green and a Houston 1st-round pick to Denver; as well as Malik Beasley, Juancho Hernangomez, Jarred Vanderbilt, Evan Turner and a 1st-round pick (Atlanta via Brooklyn) heading to Minnesota.

What do you guys think of this four-team deal?

It looks like Rockets is really going for a small ball this time but I don't know how that will work for them with Harden on the ball most of the time. The clear winner for me is Atlanta for getting some reliable bigs but it's probably too late for them this season. Denver has a strong squad already and might have added more depth that will probably help them during playoffs.

I think this favors the Atlanta too, they are shipping Capela who's been the key for their success in the playoffs, man, this guy is so consistent in the playoffs, he can score and block shots that's why they very effective, I don't know what would happen to the Rockets after this, what I am seeing is that they are trying to build a shitty team now.

Yeah, I would not trade Capela. He is like the savior down the rim whenever Harden cannot find a way to shoot the ball when he penetrates.
He will just throw it up and Capela will come flying.
What could be the Houston management thinking.
Now it will be Trae who will have a good option underneath. He can do hesitation moves or just lob it to Clint. Wink

But it needs a lot of chemistry to be done.
Maybe next year will be Hawks best season.

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Quote from: Bttzed03 on February 05, 2020, 03:00:49 AM

For some NBA transfer/swap deals, there are reports that the Timberwolves, Hawks, Rockets and Nuggets have reached a four-team deal.

Here's how it looks according to this article

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The Wolves are said to be shipping Robert Covington, Jordan Bell and a 2nd-round pick to Houston; with Clint Capela and Nene on to Atlanta; Keita Bates-Diop, Shabazz Napier, Noah Vonleh, Gerald Green and a Houston 1st-round pick to Denver; as well as Malik Beasley, Juancho Hernangomez, Jarred Vanderbilt, Evan Turner and a 1st-round pick (Atlanta via Brooklyn) heading to Minnesota.

What do you guys think of this four-team deal?

It looks like Rockets is really going for a small ball this time but I don't know how that will work for them with Harden on the ball most of the time. The clear winner for me is Atlanta for getting some reliable bigs but it's probably too late for them this season. Denver has a strong squad already and might have added more depth that will probably help them during playoffs.

I think this favors the Atlanta too, they are shipping Capela who's been the key for their success in the playoffs, man, this guy is so consistent in the playoffs, he can score and block shots that's why they very effective, I don't know what would happen to the Rockets after this, what I am seeing is that they are trying to build a shitty team now.

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For some NBA transfer/swap deals, there are reports that the Timberwolves, Hawks, Rockets and Nuggets have reached a four-team deal.

Here's how it looks according to this article

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The Wolves are said to be shipping Robert Covington, Jordan Bell and a 2nd-round pick to Houston; with Clint Capela and Nene on to Atlanta; Keita Bates-Diop, Shabazz Napier, Noah Vonleh, Gerald Green and a Houston 1st-round pick to Denver; as well as Malik Beasley, Juancho Hernangomez, Jarred Vanderbilt, Evan Turner and a 1st-round pick (Atlanta via Brooklyn) heading to Minnesota.

What do you guys think of this four-team deal?

It looks like Rockets is really going for a small ball this time but I don't know how that will work for them with Harden on the ball most of the time. The clear winner for me is Atlanta for getting some reliable bigs but it's probably too late for them this season. Denver has a strong squad already and might have added more depth that will probably help them during playoffs.

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Quote from: joshy23 on February 04, 2020, 08:32:40 PM

Quote from: Botnake on February 04, 2020, 05:31:49 PM

Quote from: chaser15 on February 04, 2020, 03:50:54 PM

Still, we are lucky to witnessed Warriors rise from scratch.

Warriors have over achieved already, winning championships easily, now that Durant was out in the squad, the west is now more competitive and its hard to predict who would win the championship this season, and next season Warriors are healthy again, they can be considered as the championship contender.

With Curry and Thompson they will be again a good competitor for the said title, it's another journey for them since they are now lacking of supporting stars to keep their franchise alive from this year's title. A lots of teams got upgraded and stars being transferred to another super teams. Let see how they will manage to compete next year with healthy squad.

Yes, but it will be totally different, they don't have the dominance that they once had in the West. It will be hard pressed on them to contend for the trophy even if both of them are going to be healthy next season. Unless they got another superstar in their team like when they acquired KD and start a championship run.

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Quote from: Botnake on February 04, 2020, 05:31:49 PM

Quote from: chaser15 on February 04, 2020, 03:50:54 PM

Still, we are lucky to witnessed Warriors rise from scratch.

Warriors have over achieved already, winning championships easily, now that Durant was out in the squad, the west is now more competitive and its hard to predict who would win the championship this season, and next season Warriors are healthy again, they can be considered as the championship contender.

With Curry and Thompson they will be again a good competitor for the said title, it's another journey for them since they are now lacking of supporting stars to keep their franchise alive from this year's title. A lots of teams got upgraded and stars being transferred to another super teams. Let see how they will manage to compete next year with healthy squad.

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Quote from: goinmerry on February 04, 2020, 03:38:37 PM

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It is known that Luka is one of the pillars of Dallas and that's why every time he's not on the watch, we used to think that they can easily be beaten.

I think of the opposite. I'm not one of those people who thinks Dallas Mavericks is a team that can easily beat without Luka Doncic. How come we can think of that way if, at some of their games, we can see that they are performing well even without Doncic on the floor. They can still give a close fight to whatever teams. And Porzingis is doing great while Luka is out.

Might be a tricky to other gamblers in terms of odds distributions at some of their games as we can still see a ( - ) points given for Mavericks even Luka is out.

Yeah, I see that most of the time. Even when stars are injured the odds it not affected at all.
I think they don't rely with that or Vegas don't.
It will be a punch to the nose of the coach if that is how they calculate winning odds. Grin

We have seen it already and way too much.
Also, Luka doesn't play the whole 48 minutes of the game. There are times when the lead of Dallas came from the 2nd stringers of the team.

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Quote from: chaser15 on February 04, 2020, 03:50:54 PM

Still, we are lucky to witnessed Warriors rise from scratch.

Warriors have over achieved already, winning championships easily, now that Durant was out in the squad, the west is now more competitive and its hard to predict who would win the championship this season, and next season Warriors are healthy again, they can be considered as the championship contender.

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Quote from: RealMalatesta on February 04, 2020, 01:28:10 PM

Honestly on the season warriors became champions the west side was a bit weak, it was still stronger than east side as is the tradition but it wasn't as strong as today.

There are teams that gave Warriors almost a match during their championship season.

OKC managed to get a 3-1 lead against the Warriors on 2016 Playoffs but they blew it. And the next season, Durant transfer to OKC destroying the competition on the West. They almost beat OKC on that playoffs. If only Durant stays, I think we can see OKC at the finals the other year.

Spurs also managed to get close to Warriors last 2017 playoffs but Kawhi got injured.

It will be a while that we will see again Warriors on the finals as competition heats up in the West. Still, we are lucky to witnessed Warriors rise from scratch.

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