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Quote from: Russlenat on December 24, 2019, 06:45:18 AM

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Rondo should step up and return as the play maker in Lebron's absence.

Rondo is not a scorer but he do facilitate the ball and if he can do that effectively, then they might win and break their losing streak.
Lebron will miss many games so they need to device a new plan to still be an effective team against any opponent, even if they are playing against the Clippers.

Lakers still have AD and Kuzma who can bring figures to lift the team. Coaching staff need to re-balance the game play, they need Rondo to dictate and find the open man. We all knew he's capabilities and even Lebron is out this team is different from the last season they still have numbers, good players who cn step up when its needed them the most.

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Quote from: Questat on December 23, 2019, 07:25:49 PM

@dunfida, Lebron needs to be playing soon because they can't handle a team without them, this reminds me of the last season when Lebron was injured and the team is messing up, Davis is good but he can't do it alone, they need Lebron to lead the team as he is the leader, the loss against the Nuggets exposed their poor defense and ball rotation.

This is still regular season though and the line up of Lakers still competitive even LeBron is resting. But you are correct the defense is messing up coaches needs to enhance and improve this section. This Lakers team is a complete package and already have a final's slot chance if LeBron will play healthy.

They need to improve their offensive execution if the lakers wants to reach the finals also their bench needs to step up consistently when the team needed them to score. Defensively they are fine and is one the toughest defensive team in the nba today. They need to focus more on an offensive consistency and the ability to get out of the shooting drought. Overall they are going to be unstoppable in the playoffs

It is actually an easy problem.
Train another playmaker. It had always been Lebron from day 1. This could be also the one reason why they took Lonzo Ball out too.
They want it to be all Lebron ball. He will make the play or he will penetrate it himself to force a score.

It is difficult to stay on the line when you take this out.
Unlike Dallas which have JJ Barea still kicking and then there is Brunson and Tim Hardaway Jr.
This is the reason why they still win even without Doncic around although it is better if he is present.

Now Lakers is at 3rd losing streak. Next game will be against Clippers. Ergh. You know what might happen.

That's how it is on almost every lebron team (except for miami when he ran it with wade). He is so good that other players shy away from trying to be the play maker. Other alpha type playmaker people are not on this team. I think kuzma is that type of player. I'm not counting AD, he plays a different part on the team.

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Quote from: Russlenat on December 24, 2019, 06:45:18 AM

Quote from: btc_angela on December 24, 2019, 05:24:11 AM

Rondo should step up and return as the play maker in Lebron's absence.

Rondo is not a scorer but he do facilitate the ball and if he can do that effectively, then they might win and break their losing streak.
Lebron will miss many games so they need to device a new plan to still be an effective team against any opponent, even if they are playing against the Clippers.

You're right, rondo is not a scorer, their last game against the Nuggets, he only scored 5 points although.

His skills really is to be a point guard and a good defender and rebounder at his size, so other players should step up also while Lebron is still resting.

Rondo will be a great contributor if he will be a starter, but as Lebron is talking his role in the game, he needs to accept his new role.

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Quote from: btc_angela on December 24, 2019, 05:24:11 AM

Rondo should step up and return as the play maker in Lebron's absence.

Rondo is not a scorer but he do facilitate the ball and if he can do that effectively, then they might win and break their losing streak.
Lebron will miss many games so they need to device a new plan to still be an effective team against any opponent, even if they are playing against the Clippers.

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Quote from: Natalim on December 23, 2019, 07:13:45 PM

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Right, that's why majority of us are surprised to see them 3x losing in a row. I think Lebron have spoken about load management and he doesn't agree with it. So why is he doing load management, doesn't make any sense at all. So I don't think this is the reason, perhaps he is nursing something and just wanted to rest it.

I don't think this is about a load management, he really has some kind of injury called "thoracic muscle)"... honestly it's my first time to see that kind of injury and according to https://www.rotoworld.com/basketball/nba/player/28859/lebron-james.. he will have to to rest full 5 days.//

here's the complete info as per rotoworld.

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LeBron James (thoracic muscle) is being listed as questionable for Wednesday's Christmas Day matchup with the Clippers.
He sat out Sunday's game, so he'll have had a full five days off coming into the Christmas game and we'd be surprised to see him skip that one. We should get another few updates leading up to Wednesday's game, but if he is able to get back out there, Rajon Rondo would likely return to the second unit.

SOURCE: Bill Oram on Twitter
Dec 23, 2019, 5:04 PM ET

Thanks for the info. Been going in and out with chiro because of that kind of 'injury' (not from basketball though, I have a bad posture to begin with and need corrections).

Their next game is against Clippers, another western team that is difficult to contain. Rondo should step up and return as the play maker in Lebron's absence.

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Quote from: Fatunad on December 23, 2019, 10:42:40 PM

Quote from: matchi2011 on December 23, 2019, 10:28:08 PM

Quote from: Questat on December 23, 2019, 07:25:49 PM

@dunfida, Lebron needs to be playing soon because they can't handle a team without them, this reminds me of the last season when Lebron was injured and the team is messing up, Davis is good but he can't do it alone, they need Lebron to lead the team as he is the leader, the loss against the Nuggets exposed their poor defense and ball rotation.

This is still regular season though and the line up of Lakers still competitive even LeBron is resting. But you are correct the defense is messing up coaches needs to enhance and improve this section. This Lakers team is a complete package and already have a final's slot chance if LeBron will play healthy.

They need to improve their offensive execution if the lakers wants to reach the finals also their bench needs to step up consistently when the team needed them to score. Defensively they are fine and is one the toughest defensive team in the nba today. They need to focus more on an offensive consistency and the ability to get out of the shooting drought. Overall they are going to be unstoppable in the playoffs

It is actually an easy problem.
Train another playmaker. It had always been Lebron from day 1. This could be also the one reason why they took Lonzo Ball out too.
They want it to be all Lebron ball. He will make the play or he will penetrate it himself to force a score.

It is difficult to stay on the line when you take this out.
Unlike Dallas which have JJ Barea still kicking and then there is Brunson and Tim Hardaway Jr.
This is the reason why they still win even without Doncic around although it is better if he is present.

Now Lakers is at 3rd losing streak. Next game will be against Clippers. Ergh. You know what might happen.

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Quote from: dunfida on December 23, 2019, 07:21:36 PM

Quote from: Natalim on December 23, 2019, 07:13:45 PM

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Right, that's why majority of us are surprised to see them 3x losing in a row. I think Lebron have spoken about load management and he doesn't agree with it. So why is he doing load management, doesn't make any sense at all. So I don't think this is the reason, perhaps he is nursing something and just wanted to rest it.

I don't think this is about a load management, he really has some kind of injury called "thoracic muscle)"... honestly it's my first time to see that kind of injury and according to https://www.rotoworld.com/basketball/nba/player/28859/lebron-james.. he will have to to rest full 5 days.//

Thats unfortunate yet the rest of the team will handle out upcoming games without Lebron and same as yours which that thoracic muscle is pretty new to me so
i made up some googling and finding out on what part is it.

Ahh, now I know what's thoracic muscle is. It's the first time I also hear about this kind of injury. In any case, atleast it's not a severe injury he had and in just 5 days rest he can return to the court. Load management or not, LeBron is always needed on the court yet he also needs to have a rest for a while.

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Quote from: matchi2011 on December 23, 2019, 10:28:08 PM

Quote from: Questat on December 23, 2019, 07:25:49 PM

@dunfida, Lebron needs to be playing soon because they can't handle a team without them, this reminds me of the last season when Lebron was injured and the team is messing up, Davis is good but he can't do it alone, they need Lebron to lead the team as he is the leader, the loss against the Nuggets exposed their poor defense and ball rotation.

This is still regular season though and the line up of Lakers still competitive even LeBron is resting. But you are correct the defense is messing up coaches needs to enhance and improve this section. This Lakers team is a complete package and already have a final's slot chance if LeBron will play healthy.

They need to improve their offensive execution if the lakers wants to reach the finals also their bench needs to step up consistently when the team needed them to score. Defensively they are fine and is one the toughest defensive team in the nba today. They need to focus more on an offensive consistency and the ability to get out of the shooting drought. Overall they are going to be unstoppable in the playoffs

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Quote from: Questat on December 23, 2019, 07:25:49 PM

@dunfida, Lebron needs to be playing soon because they can't handle a team without them, this reminds me of the last season when Lebron was injured and the team is messing up, Davis is good but he can't do it alone, they need Lebron to lead the team as he is the leader, the loss against the Nuggets exposed their poor defense and ball rotation.

This is still regular season though and the line up of Lakers still competitive even LeBron is resting. But you are correct the defense is messing up coaches needs to enhance and improve this section. This Lakers team is a complete package and already have a final's slot chance if LeBron will play healthy.

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Quote from: barbara44 on December 23, 2019, 01:33:35 PM

Denver is not bad at all but what people don't realize that this didn't happened over night, look at the previous 5 years of that team (starting with even Nurkic) and how many amazing moves they have done, they literally sent Nurkic away to give Joker his minutes and to not have two quality big man fighting each other for a spot that could ruin the chemistry. They got better and better and better every year and last year was their first playoff one and now this year they will have more experience and they will know what to expect from these teams.

Yeah that happened.
Well now, they might be a superstar team but they have a lot of chemistry which most teams doesn't have.
It is a different thing specially when it comes to defense.
I remember how GSW defended the Rockets before. Switching opponents just so to give a better defense.
They dont even talk, just a little hand sign and eye contact so that the defender would not even realize they are already switching.
Same goes for Denver when I see them do D.

Quote from: barbara44 on December 23, 2019, 01:33:35 PM

I am also very sad about my favorite team Spurs, they started horribly this season, normally whenever people say Spurs will be bad this season I would say Spurs have proved them wrong 20+ years now but this season it looks like they can be actually bad which really makes me sad.

We cannot do anything about this.
The Leonard trade including Green hurt them a lot. DeRozan is not in his old game where he could really run and gun. He was devastated when he was still with the Raptors.
I still remember that when he was being benched at the last minutes of the game. That was a playoffs game!!!

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@dunfida, Lebron needs to be playing soon because they can't handle a team without them, this reminds me of the last season when Lebron was injured and the team is messing up, Davis is good but he can't do it alone, they need Lebron to lead the team as he is the leader, the loss against the Nuggets exposed their poor defense and ball rotation.

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Quote from: Natalim on December 23, 2019, 07:13:45 PM

Quote from: btc_angela on December 23, 2019, 06:55:00 PM

Right, that's why majority of us are surprised to see them 3x losing in a row. I think Lebron have spoken about load management and he doesn't agree with it. So why is he doing load management, doesn't make any sense at all. So I don't think this is the reason, perhaps he is nursing something and just wanted to rest it.

I don't think this is about a load management, he really has some kind of injury called "thoracic muscle)"... honestly it's my first time to see that kind of injury and according to https://www.rotoworld.com/basketball/nba/player/28859/lebron-james.. he will have to to rest full 5 days.//

Thats unfortunate yet the rest of the team will handle out upcoming games without Lebron and same as yours which that thoracic muscle is pretty new to me so
i made up some googling and finding out on what part is it.

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Quote from: btc_angela on December 23, 2019, 06:55:00 PM

Right, that's why majority of us are surprised to see them 3x losing in a row. I think Lebron have spoken about load management and he doesn't agree with it. So why is he doing load management, doesn't make any sense at all. So I don't think this is the reason, perhaps he is nursing something and just wanted to rest it.

I don't think this is about a load management, he really has some kind of injury called "thoracic muscle)"... honestly it's my first time to see that kind of injury and according to https://www.rotoworld.com/basketball/nba/player/28859/lebron-james.. he will have to to rest full 5 days.//

here's the complete info as per rotoworld.

Quote

LeBron James (thoracic muscle) is being listed as questionable for Wednesday's Christmas Day matchup with the Clippers.
He sat out Sunday's game, so he'll have had a full five days off coming into the Christmas game and we'd be surprised to see him skip that one. We should get another few updates leading up to Wednesday's game, but if he is able to get back out there, Rajon Rondo would likely return to the second unit.

SOURCE: Bill Oram on Twitter
Dec 23, 2019, 5:04 PM ET

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Quote from: Quidat on December 23, 2019, 03:58:38 PM

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Quote from: Ziskinberg on December 23, 2019, 12:40:09 AM

Lakers will lose tonight, without Lebron this team is a disaster, as of this writing, Nuggets are already having a very comfortable lead, so this would mean that the losing streak of lakers will continue.

108-85, score now.

This is another load management on the side of the Lakers because its too early of a season to wore their superstar. Lossing one, two or three games in a row would definitely not a panic situation for the Lakers knowing their standing this season, they would still make it to the playoffs though.

Even if they would have those continuous losing streaks they would really able make it on playoffs.We arent really get used to for LA to be defeated 3x in a row.
You can see that they arent really capable enough on making plays which would beat out other teams without LBJ and even losing AD on that 1st loss game
does really imply that its hard for LA to lost up their core players on the court.

Right, that's why majority of us are surprised to see them 3x losing in a row. I think Lebron have spoken about load management and he doesn't agree with it. So why is he doing load management, doesn't make any sense at all. So I don't think this is the reason, perhaps he is nursing something and just wanted to rest it.

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Quote from: Ranly123 on December 23, 2019, 02:54:12 AM

Quote from: Ziskinberg on December 23, 2019, 12:40:09 AM

Lakers will lose tonight, without Lebron this team is a disaster, as of this writing, Nuggets are already having a very comfortable lead, so this would mean that the losing streak of lakers will continue.

108-85, score now.

This is another load management on the side of the Lakers because its too early of a season to wore their superstar. Lossing one, two or three games in a row would definitely not a panic situation for the Lakers knowing their standing this season, they would still make it to the playoffs though.

Even if they would have those continuous losing streaks they would really able make it on playoffs.We arent really get used to for LA to be defeated 3x in a row.
You can see that they arent really capable enough on making plays which would beat out other teams without LBJ and even losing AD on that 1st loss game
does really imply that its hard for LA to lost up their core players on the court.

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Denver is not bad at all but what people don't realize that this didn't happened over night, look at the previous 5 years of that team (starting with even Nurkic) and how many amazing moves they have done, they literally sent Nurkic away to give Joker his minutes and to not have two quality big man fighting each other for a spot that could ruin the chemistry. They got better and better and better every year and last year was their first playoff one and now this year they will have more experience and they will know what to expect from these teams.

I am also very sad about my favorite team Spurs, they started horribly this season, normally whenever people say Spurs will be bad this season I would say Spurs have proved them wrong 20+ years now but this season it looks like they can be actually bad which really makes me sad.

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Quote from: wheelz1200 on December 23, 2019, 02:09:11 AM

Quote from: Ziskinberg on December 23, 2019, 12:40:09 AM

Lakers will lose tonight, without Lebron this team is a disaster, as of this writing, Nuggets are already having a very comfortable lead, so this would mean that the losing streak of lakers will continue.

108-85, score now.

And this is why that golden state regular season wins record will just be so tough to beat. There is such little room for error. A couple losses in a row and it will pretty much be out of reach. People dont give denver enough credit. That team is legit. When the joker is at the top of his game they will be tough to beat on any night

Oohh I believe that. Joker is something else when he is in condition which is almost every game. Grin

He just press that power up button for some time just to make it more entertaining.
And look at Gary Harris gaining more fame and also putting his skills into another level.
This Denver team will be difficult to deal with once they face someone with weaker offensive power.
Michael Malone is a defensive coach and without great offense to the team which they are against with, yes it will be a disaster for them.

Nuggets is a championship contender IMO, I was surprise the way they handle the Lebron less Lakers, everyone is contributing and their defense is really good, and another good thing is that they are compose of young players who play hard every game.

it's pretty evident that they are contributing, starters does not burn a lot of minutes and 6 in the roster scored a double digit while some even if they didn't hit a doublt digit but they do well with their few minutes in the game.

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Quote from: wheelz1200 on December 23, 2019, 02:09:11 AM

Quote from: Ziskinberg on December 23, 2019, 12:40:09 AM

Lakers will lose tonight, without Lebron this team is a disaster, as of this writing, Nuggets are already having a very comfortable lead, so this would mean that the losing streak of lakers will continue.

108-85, score now.

And this is why that golden state regular season wins record will just be so tough to beat. There is such little room for error. A couple losses in a row and it will pretty much be out of reach. People dont give denver enough credit. That team is legit. When the joker is at the top of his game they will be tough to beat on any night

Oohh I believe that. Joker is something else when he is in condition which is almost every game. Grin

He just press that power up button for some time just to make it more entertaining.
And look at Gary Harris gaining more fame and also putting his skills into another level.
This Denver team will be difficult to deal with once they face someone with weaker offensive power.
Michael Malone is a defensive coach and without great offense to the team which they are against with, yes it will be a disaster for them.

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Quote from: matchi2011 on December 23, 2019, 02:56:40 AM

Moving forward, the season still long and a lots of twist. Lakers will bounce back for sure.

They are 3 in row now of losing streak, so let's expect a win in their next game if Lebron will come back although they'll be facing a tough team which is the Clippers at home, but without Lebron, most likely the same outcome will happen as Clippers are as good as the Nuggets or even better.

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Quote from: Ziskinberg on December 23, 2019, 12:40:09 AM

Lakers will lose tonight, without Lebron this team is a disaster, as of this writing, Nuggets are already having a very comfortable lead, so this would mean that the losing streak of lakers will continue.

108-85, score now.

Lakers unable to stay close, they've tried but after the first half Denver dominated everything. Davis unable to carry everything. LeBron absence affects the whole squad, knowing his production and his presence inside the floor helps boosting his teammates. Moving forward, the season still long and a lots of twist. Lakers will bounce back for sure.

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