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February 06, 2020, 02:35:29 PM
BIG TRADE DEADLINE SWAP!!!!

The Golden State Warriors traded D'Angelo Russell for Andrew Wiggins and a 2021 1st round pick (Top 3 protected) and a 2022 2nd round pick. Russell was traded along with some cap fillers as well with Spellman and and Jacob Evans also heading to Minnesota. I know that this deal would happen especially when in the long run they can't have two point guards running the show, Russell was really meant to be traded by the Warriors after they signed him and I think Minnesota have ruined GSW's chance of getting a better deal out of it. Now Towns will be playing on the same uniform with one of his best friends, this was really a good trade done by the management especially when Towns got saddened by the Covington trade.
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February 06, 2020, 01:52:23 PM
Lakers will be NBA champions 2019-2020 and honestly what make you guys vote for Clippers ? Just because of 2-3 players ? They still need at least 1-2 years to become a proper team and play like one so they could win like one. Sure, they have superstars in team but they still need time to make a chemistry between them... . If Paul George and and Leonard will improve their game this season maybe they will have a chance but lets not forget about Rockets and Bucks.

Last night , Denver pull out a stunning victory over Utah at odds were at some point 1.06 vs 10.31 . Who ever played on Denver , must be very happy.
Actually have the same view about Clippers, theyre good but im not really believing that they would able to pull that NBA championship.
I dont see any issues with chemistry or whatsoever but i do see much more possibility with Bucks and Rockets but well we cant still judge
yet the ball is round and anything can happen.

Also i didnt expect for that Denver and Utah game though.

I think denver beats both of them.  Barring any major injuries I think denver is the team to beat.  Call me crazy but they have the grit to win those 7 game series.  Last year they had a good year but disappointing loss in the playoffs.  My guess would be denver vs the bucks in the finals. 
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February 06, 2020, 12:58:17 PM
I don't get the Winslow one there, I mean I get that Miami wants to attract Iggy and they are willing to pay him more than he deserves at this age, however that doesn't change the fact that they gave away Winslow for him. I understand he has been injured and all that but dude is very very young right now and would had a great potential if he stayed there.

I know that Justise Winslow stat-wise is better than Iggy but if we are talking about him being able to suit up in any game then you know Winslow isn't one of the sturdiest players in the NBA. So far he only played 8 games this season and when he played his first game coming back from his injury last month he didn't do well and the worst thing about it is he re-injured himself. Other than that his last two seasons are also plagued with both long and short term injuries related to his back and knees. If we are talking about their usability here in the upcoming playoffs I don't think a talented players that is injured could ever help a team win some games.
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February 06, 2020, 12:50:38 PM
Lakers will be NBA champions 2019-2020 and honestly what make you guys vote for Clippers ? Just because of 2-3 players ? They still need at least 1-2 years to become a proper team and play like one so they could win like one. Sure, they have superstars in team but they still need time to make a chemistry between them... . If Paul George and and Leonard will improve their game this season maybe they will have a chance but lets not forget about Rockets and Bucks.

Last night , Denver pull out a stunning victory over Utah at odds were at some point 1.06 vs 10.31 . Who ever played on Denver , must be very happy.
Actually have the same view about Clippers, theyre good but im not really believing that they would able to pull that NBA championship.
I dont see any issues with chemistry or whatsoever but i do see much more possibility with Bucks and Rockets but well we cant still judge
yet the ball is round and anything can happen.

Also i didnt expect for that Denver and Utah game though.
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February 06, 2020, 11:45:56 AM
I don't get the Winslow one there, I mean I get that Miami wants to attract Iggy and they are willing to pay him more than he deserves at this age, however that doesn't change the fact that they gave away Winslow for him. I understand he has been injured and all that but dude is very very young right now and would had a great potential if he stayed there.

I doubt it is "do or die" season for Miami to make this kind of trade, as long as they can keep Butler on the team, they have great rookies under great rookie contracts so they could just let the team fly for another few season and grow together, this Iggy trade is a lot like a team who wants to win it all now and I am 99% sure they can't even make it to finals of East let alone win the ring so this trade will be one of the "did it for no reason" trades in the future.
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February 06, 2020, 11:40:49 AM
Lakers will be NBA champions 2019-2020 and honestly what make you guys vote for Clippers ? Just because of 2-3 players ? They still need at least 1-2 years to become a proper team and play like one so they could win like one. Sure, they have superstars in team but they still need time to make a chemistry between them... . If Paul George and and Leonard will improve their game this season maybe they will have a chance but lets not forget about Rockets and Bucks.

Last night , Denver pull out a stunning victory over Utah at odds were at some point 1.06 vs 10.31 . Who ever played on Denver , must be very happy.
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February 06, 2020, 10:27:39 AM

 There is an issue with why Blazers are playing so good right now and all of that is thanks to Damian Lillard. He is not playing againts scrubs neither, dude is playing all-stars and still doing amazing stuff, he is shooting from the logo, he is looking like Curry of 2017, wouldn't be shocked if he beats the 3 point record neither. However there is a problem arising with a player playing that good when a team wins. If a player plays that well and you win, you never know if you will win without him playing that good as well. So if Spurs holds Damian to a low point number or makes him miss a lot of shots, than maybe they could win an easy game? Dejounte was a all-nba defense player before his injury, he hasn't been that good since he returned but at the same time we can't really say he is not capable of doing such a thing neither.

 This game will be decided based on how Damian plays, if spurs can shut him down than spurs can win, if he is not shut down and scores a lot , blazers will win.
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February 06, 2020, 07:34:23 AM

+3.5 for Spurs tomorrow against Trail Blazers. Could be a good bet. Spurs had lose two big matches for both LA. They might want to redeem themselves now.  Grin

But on the road, its not likely to happen I guess as Blazers are playing good basketball at home.

Blazers loss to Denver on the road, they might also bounce back in this game at home.
You know Blazers are good at home since they won their last 3 games, and Lillard has been goating in the past games except in Denver.

their record against these teams.

Utah -124 - 107
Rockets - 125 - 112
Indiana - 139 - 129
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February 06, 2020, 07:10:57 AM
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Being a champion is paying up.  Grin
Unlike veterans which are just given $5m per year. With him it takes a lot of money because of the ring.
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It sure does. Iguodala's manager/agent knows how to leverage his client's past achievements. He is also well rested now and his championship experience could help his new team come playoff time but I still think the Miami Heat is taking a huge gamble also here IMO. But hey, who knows if they can be able to knock off one of the East's favorites (Celtics, Bucks, 76ers, Toronto).
Heat is actually in good position now at the 4th spot.
The addition of Butler and rookies stepping up made it happen.
Now this, Iguodala might boost the confidence of this young players and will have a better knowledge on how a playoffs game should be.
Can't wait for head to head matches in the playoffs.

+3.5 for Spurs tomorrow against Trail Blazers. Could be a good bet. Spurs had lose two big matches for both LA. They might want to redeem themselves now.  Grin
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February 06, 2020, 05:07:37 AM
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Being a champion is paying up.  Grin
Unlike veterans which are just given $5m per year. With him it takes a lot of money because of the ring.
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It sure does. Iguodala's manager/agent knows how to leverage his client's past achievements. He is also well rested now and his championship experience could help his new team come playoff time but I still think the Miami Heat is taking a huge gamble also here IMO. But hey, who knows if they can be able to knock off one of the East's favorites (Celtics, Bucks, 76ers, Toronto).

Miami do have young guys and I think Iguodala will suit them well.
Giving them a veteran perspective and everything he knew about defense.
I still cannot believe how Iggy changed from a high flying offensive guy to a defensive one.
He is definitely a valuable piece for GSW back then.

There is a fire going on and coals are being filled in.

https://clutchpoints.com/grizzlies-news-ja-morant-reacts-to-the-end-of-andre-iguodala-chapter-after-trade-to-heat/

Ja Morant cannot wait for Iggy to be traded so that they can show what Grizzlies is about.
Then Curry comes back defending his guy.  Grin Read it. (the part about Curry though is not there, you can google it)

Definitely he is a great addition to the Heat.
With his experience being a champion with GSW, he can provide that with the heat and the team will be confident, they need that especially on the road.

And finally, after months of not playing, we will not see Iggy playing with his new team and Heat will surely be more dangerous with the defensive player added on the line up, let's see what his new role with the HEAT.
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February 06, 2020, 03:59:18 AM
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Being a champion is paying up.  Grin
Unlike veterans which are just given $5m per year. With him it takes a lot of money because of the ring.
~
It sure does. Iguodala's manager/agent knows how to leverage his client's past achievements. He is also well rested now and his championship experience could help his new team come playoff time but I still think the Miami Heat is taking a huge gamble also here IMO. But hey, who knows if they can be able to knock off one of the East's favorites (Celtics, Bucks, 76ers, Toronto).

Miami do have young guys and I think Iguodala will suit them well.
Giving them a veteran perspective and everything he knew about defense.
I still cannot believe how Iggy changed from a high flying offensive guy to a defensive one.
He is definitely a valuable piece for GSW back then.

There is a fire going on and coals are being filled in.

https://clutchpoints.com/grizzlies-news-ja-morant-reacts-to-the-end-of-andre-iguodala-chapter-after-trade-to-heat/

Ja Morant cannot wait for Iggy to be traded so that they can show what Grizzlies is about.
Then Curry comes back defending his guy.  Grin Read it. (the part about Curry though is not there, you can google it)
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February 06, 2020, 03:41:35 AM
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Being a champion is paying up.  Grin
Unlike veterans which are just given $5m per year. With him it takes a lot of money because of the ring.
~
It sure does. Iguodala's manager/agent knows how to leverage his client's past achievements. He is also well rested now and his championship experience could help his new team come playoff time but I still think the Miami Heat is taking a huge gamble also here IMO. But hey, who knows if they can be able to knock off one of the East's favorites (Celtics, Bucks, 76ers, Toronto).
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February 06, 2020, 02:51:19 AM
We will be able to see how the Rockets would play now, tomorrow they'll be playing against the Lakers on the road, so we can tell if they are really effective with their short center. Westbrook is still questionable but hopefully he will play and it seems like Davis are also the same status as Westbrook but it's nice to witness if all these players are available in this game, Lakers should dominate the paint area here.
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February 06, 2020, 02:30:57 AM
not sure if this current trade regarding with releasing Capela gives them a good result.

But the management are sure of it that's why they traded capela although his performance is really good within the team.
Their current line up for sure would not take them in the West Finals, even the semis but they might be thinking of putting a replacement probably better than capela, that's the surprise we have to watch out for.
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February 06, 2020, 02:17:39 AM
~snip~

Rockets will now play a small lineup. I don't see anything wrong but that was a gamble.


There's nothing wrong with having a small line up, but the Rockets are doing it in a worse way in my opinion. Imagine a 6'5 dude who used to play as a forward suddenly become a center. Tristan Thompson was even considered an undersized center in the NBA, and the guy is like 6'9.
We will see a huge difference when the Rockets retain this starting line up and played against taller teams such as Bucks, Mavs, or the Lakers.
I remember back when GSW have Curry, Thompson, Iggy, barnes and Green though they've got the mentality which Offense is their good defense
not sure if that will also be applied with Houston where most of the time the ball is not rotating but only hold either by Harden or Westbrook, not
sure if this current trade regarding with releasing Capela gives them a good result.
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February 06, 2020, 01:33:20 AM
On Houston Rockets small line up (some dubs it as "dead line up"), send your prayers to PJ Tucker  Grin





In another transfer news, Miami Heat has acquired Andre Iguodala from the Memphis Grizzlies in exchange for Justise Winslow.
The guy has signed a 2 year, $30 million extension. He's been asking for this and causing some unrest in the Grizzlies young core. I hope he's happy now as he prepares for his retirement.

Being a champion is paying up.  Grin
Unlike veterans which are just given $5m per year. With him it takes a lot of money because of the ring.

About the Houston trade, Tucker is not Draymond Green. I don't think he can cover much of that painted area.
But looking at their past roster there is not really much of a center.
Tyson Chandler only, Capela in list is a forward.
You can smell something is being cooked at the Houston side.
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February 05, 2020, 11:19:16 PM
I guess they are only worsening their lineup with this experiment. P.J Tucker is way too undersized to be on the center position. Any team could easily dominate them from the paint. Capela was a good piece and additional strength from their defense. I don't know how the Rockets would engage Covington and Bell in their rotation. Rockets need bigmen, specially when Harden and WB is making a lot of fg attempts, they need someone to grab offensive rebounds. Anyway, too early to judge their lineup, let's just see the outcome.

Rockets will now play a small lineup. I don't see anything wrong but that was a gamble.

We don't know what Rockets are thinking. To the point that they gave up Capela, as we all know how important this guy's role on the team, looks like Rockets are gambling here or maybe they are cooking "something" for the future.

I agree that it's too early to tell if that move will be worst or not. Let's see how they will execute their offense and defense from now on without or minimizing the numbers on the paint.

This is how Mike D'Antoni works.
Speed and offense.
I guess he just want to maximize that kind of strategy.
I am still worried about the defense but it looks like they want head to head with offense. As long as they can shoot the ball for every possession then it wont be a problem.

They score 2 he will score 3 using Harden or Westbrook. They will just wait until the other team makes an error.
I want to see though how they will stop centers like Jokic with this kind of roster.
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February 05, 2020, 10:44:14 PM
~snip~

Rockets will now play a small lineup. I don't see anything wrong but that was a gamble.


There's nothing wrong with having a small line up, but the Rockets are doing it in a worse way in my opinion. Imagine a 6'5 dude who used to play as a forward suddenly become a center. Tristan Thompson was even considered an undersized center in the NBA, and the guy is like 6'9.
We will see a huge difference when the Rockets retain this starting line up and played against taller teams such as Bucks, Mavs, or the Lakers.
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February 05, 2020, 09:33:05 PM
On Houston Rockets small line up (some dubs it as "dead line up"), send your prayers to PJ Tucker  Grin





In another transfer news, Miami Heat has acquired Andre Iguodala from the Memphis Grizzlies in exchange for Justise Winslow.
The guy has signed a 2 year, $30 million extension. He's been asking for this and causing some unrest in the Grizzlies young core. I hope he's happy now as he prepares for his retirement.
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February 05, 2020, 08:52:01 PM
It looks like Rockets is really going for a small ball this time but I don't know how that will work for them with Harden on the ball most of the time. The clear winner for me is Atlanta for getting some reliable bigs but it's probably too late for them this season. Denver has a strong squad already and might have added more depth that will probably help them during playoffs.
Yeah, mostly the Rockets is losing on this deal but what's more interesting is who they'll get on the 2nd round pick. Though I think Bell and Covington are good reserve still the fact they gave up with Capela that can do both defensive and offensive on the court is still not nice move by Houston. Well, I am guessing Clint Capela was wanting more than what he can get with Houston.

On the win-win situation I don't think Atlanta is winning right here because if you get the stats of Nene seems you can't because he's status was out. I don't know how long he's been out but given the fact he's ageing as well that will decline both his capabilities on the court, that's my opinion.
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