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Quote from: qwertyup23 on February 07, 2020, 05:09:58 AM

I was actually surprised on how efficient the game went for the Rockets. At hindsight, my first guess was they would be dominated by the paint by the Lakers and win by considerable margin but they snatch the win through their efficiency and passing. James Harden does not need to score at least 40+ points per night to win. They just have to continue their pacing and get their scorers to play hot and hit those 3s to seal the deal.

They have to stick with their current game plan, they have been efficient with it.
Tucker does not even attempt to rebound when his teammates shoots from the outside as Davis is just so tall for him, but somehow he was able to help and even nailed a 3 pointer when the Lakers was already taking the lead.

Covington their new teammate were able to contribute 14 points from a very efficient shooting of 5-9 overall which is 12 points are coming from the 3 point area.

Quote from: qwertyup23 on February 07, 2020, 05:09:58 AM

Again this would be a different story if it were the playoffs now as teams will be more competitive and defensive on the end.

I can't argue with it, it's a series so adjustment happens throughout the series.

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Meanwhile, we are seeing the Rockets now giving some good competition with the Lakers, it seems like they don't have any problem without Capela.

I think they will be having a hard time when it comes to good defender teams.

Lakers took advantage of not having a big man and they focussed on AD which scored 32 with 13 rebounds though that is not enough since Rockets have a lot of players shooting on three. They got 19 threes, which is half of the scores they accumulated while Lakers got only 9. I forgot that they have those shooters so every game of Rockets will usually be a three-point shootout being lead by Westbrook, James and Gordon.

I don't think Lakers took advantage on the undersized Rockets, the stats say so...

Lakers go total rebounds of 38, while the Rockets got 37, they only got taken advantage by 1 rebound and rockets is still good then.
This game, Rockets were just efficient and it seems like they were successful letting Westbrook shoot the ball more.

They are out bounded by the efficiency of rockets fast game and seems the Lakers didn't see that coming since they are focus on the disadvantage side for not having a legitimate center and rockets prove that they still the best without a tank, for sure their next opponent will see that a threat and will adjust for the efficient small ball rockets.

I was actually surprised on how efficient the game went for the Rockets. At hindsight, my first guess was they would be dominated by the paint by the Lakers and win by considerable margin but they snatch the win through their efficiency and passing. James Harden does not need to score at least 40+ points per night to win. They just have to continue their pacing and get their scorers to play hot and hit those 3s to seal the deal.

Again this would be a different story if it were the playoffs now as teams will be more competitive and defensive on the end.

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Quote from: freedomgo on February 07, 2020, 12:30:11 AM

Meanwhile, we are seeing the Rockets now giving some good competition with the Lakers, it seems like they don't have any problem without Capela.

I think they will be having a hard time when it comes to good defender teams.

Lakers took advantage of not having a big man and they focussed on AD which scored 32 with 13 rebounds though that is not enough since Rockets have a lot of players shooting on three. They got 19 threes, which is half of the scores they accumulated while Lakers got only 9. I forgot that they have those shooters so every game of Rockets will usually be a three-point shootout being lead by Westbrook, James and Gordon.

I don't think Lakers took advantage on the undersized Rockets, the stats say so...

Lakers go total rebounds of 38, while the Rockets got 37, they only got taken advantage by 1 rebound and rockets is still good then.
This game, Rockets were just efficient and it seems like they were successful letting Westbrook shoot the ball more.

They are out bounded by the efficiency of rockets fast game and seems the Lakers didn't see that coming since they are focus on the disadvantage side for not having a legitimate center and rockets prove that they still the best without a tank, for sure their next opponent will see that a threat and will adjust for the efficient small ball rockets.

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Quote from: Janation on February 07, 2020, 02:26:31 AM

Quote from: freedomgo on February 07, 2020, 12:30:11 AM

Meanwhile, we are seeing the Rockets now giving some good competition with the Lakers, it seems like they don't have any problem without Capela.

I think they will be having a hard time when it comes to good defender teams.

Lakers took advantage of not having a big man and they focussed on AD which scored 32 with 13 rebounds though that is not enough since Rockets have a lot of players shooting on three. They got 19 threes, which is half of the scores they accumulated while Lakers got only 9. I forgot that they have those shooters so every game of Rockets will usually be a three-point shootout being lead by Westbrook, James and Gordon.

I don't think Lakers took advantage on the undersized Rockets, the stats say so...

Lakers go total rebounds of 38, while the Rockets got 37, they only got taken advantage by 1 rebound and rockets is still good then.
This game, Rockets were just efficient and it seems like they were successful letting Westbrook shoot the ball more.

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Quote from: freedomgo on February 07, 2020, 12:30:11 AM

Meanwhile, we are seeing the Rockets now giving some good competition with the Lakers, it seems like they don't have any problem without Capela.

I think they will be having a hard time when it comes to good defender teams.

Lakers took advantage of not having a big man and they focussed on AD which scored 32 with 13 rebounds though that is not enough since Rockets have a lot of players shooting on three. They got 19 threes, which is half of the scores they accumulated while Lakers got only 9. I forgot that they have those shooters so every game of Rockets will usually be a three-point shootout being lead by Westbrook, James and Gordon.

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Quote from: rdbase on February 06, 2020, 10:15:20 PM

Golden state get a 1st round draft pick on the trade of D'Angelo Russell from the Timberwolves.

Thanks rdbase.
It looks like a win for GSW.

Quote from: freedomgo on February 07, 2020, 12:30:11 AM

Dlo at wolves now, hopefully he can change the current situation of the team, they forget to win anymore so with his arrival, maybe he can provide some spark. I can also see that the Clippers will only get stronger now that they have Morris who has been a good inside and out players.

Meanwhile, we are seeing the Rockets now giving some good competition with the Lakers, it seems like they don't have any problem without Capela.

He might.
Kat and DLo are good friends.
I think the chemistry will not be difficult for the both of them.
The other role players though might have some hard time to adjust with him.
Now they have a real pointguard.

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Quote from: danherbias07 on February 06, 2020, 01:33:20 AM

+3.5 for Spurs tomorrow against Trail Blazers. Could be a good bet. Spurs had lose two big matches for both LA. They might want to redeem themselves now. Grin

I lose in this game. I didnt expect the Trail Blazers would push up until 4th round. Five players score up to 30plus points leading by Ariza and Lilliard the pass break points are really intense converting those error made by Spurs. I do think also that Spurs will win as they have 2 wins in a row already but the opponent seems pepared on their home turf.

Anyway, on the other note lakers lose too on Miami, come on, James and Davis whats happening with you guys. Fourth quarter is a mess and should be more careful. Not so many points from other Players and bench players too.

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+3.5 for Spurs tomorrow against Trail Blazers. Could be a good bet. Spurs had lose two big matches for both LA. They might want to redeem themselves now. Grin

But on the road, its not likely to happen I guess as Blazers are playing good basketball at home.

Blazers loss to Denver on the road, they might also bounce back in this game at home.
You know Blazers are good at home since they won their last 3 games, and Lillard has been goating in the past games except in Denver.

their record against these teams.

Utah -124 - 107
Rockets - 125 - 112
Indiana - 139 - 129

That happened. Then I lose. Grin

It's okay. Another day, another chance.
How about this:
Wizards against Mavericks -3.5
Luka is injured for 5 more games and KP is also in question if will be able to play.

Then Kings vs Miami with just -1.5.
With the recent trade, it might be a good push for Miami players to win.

They were so good in the last minutes of the 4th quarter and they secure great plays in every position, it was actually a close game from 1st to 3rd quarter but Blazers are just so good in the 4th quarter, I like this kind of team.

Meanwhile, Lakers loss against the undersized Rockets, and Covington was great in his first game with the Rockets.

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Quote from: Kasabus on February 06, 2020, 07:34:23 AM

Quote from: danherbias07 on February 06, 2020, 07:10:57 AM

+3.5 for Spurs tomorrow against Trail Blazers. Could be a good bet. Spurs had lose two big matches for both LA. They might want to redeem themselves now. Grin

But on the road, its not likely to happen I guess as Blazers are playing good basketball at home.

Blazers loss to Denver on the road, they might also bounce back in this game at home.
You know Blazers are good at home since they won their last 3 games, and Lillard has been goating in the past games except in Denver.

their record against these teams.

Utah -124 - 107
Rockets - 125 - 112
Indiana - 139 - 129

That happened. Then I lose. Grin

It's okay. Another day, another chance.
How about this:
Wizards against Mavericks -3.5
Luka is injured for 5 more games and KP is also in question if will be able to play.

Then Kings vs Miami with just -1.5.
With the recent trade, it might be a good push for Miami players to win.

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Quote from: Reid on February 06, 2020, 03:59:18 AM

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Miami do have young guys and I think Iguodala will suit them well.
Giving them a veteran perspective and everything he knew about defense.

Iguodala's vast experience and reliable defense (but yet to be seen this season) definitely made the Heat trade one of their young guys and that $30M two-year deal. Surely he can be helpful with this young team, I'm just not sure how he and Jimmy will blend together. Maybe I'm just overthinking here.

I think you are, Iguodala is a good team player, he played with the Warriors and had success even not being a starter and we know Heat played the same style, they trust each other and they gave each other a chance, so their minutes are well manage.

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Quote from: Reid on February 06, 2020, 03:59:18 AM

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Miami do have young guys and I think Iguodala will suit them well.
Giving them a veteran perspective and everything he knew about defense.

Iguodala's vast experience and reliable defense (but yet to be seen this season) definitely made the Heat trade one of their young guys and that $30M two-year deal. Surely he can be helpful with this young team, I'm just not sure how he and Jimmy will blend together. Maybe I'm just overthinking here.

Quote from: Reid on February 06, 2020, 03:59:18 AM

I still cannot believe how Iggy changed from a high flying offensive guy to a defensive one.
He is definitely a valuable piece for GSW back then.

Not everyone can transition like Iggy. I guess the presence of both Curry and Thompson made it easier for him to just focus on defense while providing offense when needed.

More details on the Andre Drummond trade:

Quote from: Finestream on February 07, 2020, 12:44:10 AM

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I think you are, Iguodala is a good team player, he played with the Warriors and had success even not being a starter and we know Heat played the same style, they trust each other and they gave each other a chance, so their minutes are well manage.

There's no doubt that Iggy is a good team player. It's Jimmy that I'm concerned about for some reason.

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Dlo at wolves now, hopefully he can change the current situation of the team, they forget to win anymore so with his arrival, maybe he can provide some spark. I can also see that the Clippers will only get stronger now that they have Morris who has been a good inside and out players.

Meanwhile, we are seeing the Rockets now giving some good competition with the Lakers, it seems like they don't have any problem without Capela.

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Quote from: Reid on February 06, 2020, 08:34:17 PM

Quote from: Theb on February 06, 2020, 02:35:29 PM

BIG TRADE DEADLINE SWAP!!!!

The Golden State Warriors traded D'Angelo Russell for Andrew Wiggins and a 2021 1st round pick (Top 3 protected) and a 2022 2nd round pick. Russell was traded along with some cap fillers as well with Spellman and and Jacob Evans also heading to Minnesota. I know that this deal would happen especially when in the long run they can't have two point guards running the show, Russell was really meant to be traded by the Warriors after they signed him and I think Minnesota have ruined GSW's chance of getting a better deal out of it. Now Towns will be playing on the same uniform with one of his best friends, this was really a good trade done by the management especially when Towns got saddened by the Covington trade.

Now GSW will need to create another chemistry?
The trade rotation was still confusing for me.
I will be checking all the rosters later.
Bad thing is google and NBA.com is still late in updating those line ups even if the trade is already done.

It will affect a lot since roleplayers are the ones being moved.
I guess we will just see if this will be good or not.
Who is the real winner and loser with all this drama.

Towns was hurt by the Covington trade but somehow Rosas (president T'wolves) find a way for Towns tantrums by taking DLo.

Here are the blueprints on the trade deadline completed today.

Golden state get a 1st round draft pick on the trade of D'Angelo Russell from the Timberwolves.

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Quote from: Theb on February 06, 2020, 02:35:29 PM

BIG TRADE DEADLINE SWAP!!!!

The Golden State Warriors traded D'Angelo Russell for Andrew Wiggins and a 2021 1st round pick (Top 3 protected) and a 2022 2nd round pick. Russell was traded along with some cap fillers as well with Spellman and and Jacob Evans also heading to Minnesota. I know that this deal would happen especially when in the long run they can't have two point guards running the show, Russell was really meant to be traded by the Warriors after they signed him and I think Minnesota have ruined GSW's chance of getting a better deal out of it. Now Towns will be playing on the same uniform with one of his best friends, this was really a good trade done by the management especially when Towns got saddened by the Covington trade.

Now GSW will need to create another chemistry?
The trade rotation was still confusing for me.
I will be checking all the rosters later.
Bad thing is google and NBA.com is still late in updating those line ups even if the trade is already done.

It will affect a lot since roleplayers are the ones being moved.
I guess we will just see if this will be good or not.
Who is the real winner and loser with all this drama.

Towns was hurt by the Covington trade but somehow Rosas (president T'wolves) find a way for Towns tantrums by taking DLo.

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Quote from: boltz on February 06, 2020, 11:40:49 AM

Last night , Denver pull out a stunning victory over Utah at odds were at some point 1.06 vs 10.31 . Who ever played on Denver , must be very happy.

1.06 vs. 10.31? Moneyline?

Where did you see these odds? What sportsbook? It's impossible for Denver Nuggets to have that kind of Moneyline odds.

Even in live betting, I think that odds will not be given to Nuggets even for let's say they are downed at 15.

That odds is possible and I suspect he saw that odds in live betting.
Denver was +10 prior to the game so their odds will increase when they are down more.

I saw a poster got x20 odds in live betting on Denver against the bucks, so it could happen the same here.

The odds prior to the game aren't correlated with what will be the odds on live betting.

I know it possible but for +15 lead, the odds on live betting were just around 8 to 9 and its Nuggets. I will understand if its a low team on the bottom. Saw it on fiat bookies so it's different in crypto sites? I think they just have the same odd provider as a reference or maybe around. Odds 10.31 is really high to me but lucky to those who able to bet on that. They were able to get a big profit.

And that +15 lead wasn't maintained for a long time. So that odds just showed up for a few seconds to around minutes? In that case we really need fast hands for that opportunity.

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Quote from: freedomgo on February 06, 2020, 02:51:19 AM

We will be able to see how the Rockets would play now, tomorrow they'll be playing against the Lakers on the road, so we can tell if they are really effective with their short center. Westbrook is still questionable but hopefully he will play and it seems like Davis are also the same status as Westbrook but it's nice to witness if all these players are available in this game, Lakers should dominate the paint area here.

Seeing on how the composition of Rockets are mainly forwards against a team composed of giants, I guess Rockets will have a difficult time against the lineup of Lakers. Without Westbrook and an effective center position, Lebron and McGee will dominate the paint and at least control the area enforcing more defense on the 3s. Many people have speculated that Lakers could be the champions this year and their hard work and determination prove that they are the main contender for that spot.

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Quote from: boltz on February 06, 2020, 11:40:49 AM

Last night , Denver pull out a stunning victory over Utah at odds were at some point 1.06 vs 10.31 . Who ever played on Denver , must be very happy.

1.06 vs. 10.31? Moneyline?

Where did you see these odds? What sportsbook? It's impossible for Denver Nuggets to have that kind of Moneyline odds.

Even in live betting, I think that odds will not be given to Nuggets even for let's say they are downed at 15.

That odds is possible and I suspect he saw that odds in live betting.
Denver was +10 prior to the game so their odds will increase when they are down more.

I saw a poster got x20 odds in live betting on Denver against the bucks, so it could happen the same here.

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Quote from: boltz on February 06, 2020, 11:40:49 AM

Last night , Denver pull out a stunning victory over Utah at odds were at some point 1.06 vs 10.31 . Who ever played on Denver , must be very happy.

1.06 vs. 10.31? Moneyline?

Where did you see these odds? What sportsbook? It's impossible for Denver Nuggets to have that kind of Moneyline odds.

Even in live betting, I think that odds will not be given to Nuggets even for let's say they are downed at 15.

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Quote from: boltz on February 06, 2020, 11:40:49 AM

They still need at least 1-2 years to become a proper team and play like one so they could win like one.

"Play like one"
"1-2 years for Clippers to become a "proper team""

Make a proper explanation for this and I'm willing to be your guest.

Quote from: boltz on February 06, 2020, 11:40:49 AM

Sure, they have superstars in team but they still need time to make a chemistry..

I'm not rooting for Clippers to win the title but to say that they are still not in chemistry, I don't know where's your valid source for that.

Are you looking for the current team standings as a basis for this?

Quote from: boltz on February 06, 2020, 11:40:49 AM

If Paul George and and Leonard will improve their game this season maybe they will have a chance..

What kind of improvement do you want to see? Are they still underperforming based on your view?

I think you need to lower down your expectations.

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Quote from: Theb on February 06, 2020, 02:35:29 PM

BIG TRADE DEADLINE SWAP!!!!

The Golden State Warriors traded D'Angelo Russell for Andrew Wiggins and a 2021 1st round pick (Top 3 protected) and a 2022 2nd round pick. Russell was traded along with some cap fillers as well with Spellman and and Jacob Evans also heading to Minnesota. I know that this deal would happen especially when in the long run they can't have two point guards running the show, Russell was really meant to be traded by the Warriors after they signed him and I think Minnesota have ruined GSW's chance of getting a better deal out of it. Now Towns will be playing on the same uniform with one of his best friends, this was really a good trade done by the management especially when Towns got saddened by the Covington trade.

Oh my, so the rumor now became true.

I believed too that Russell was bound to trade during the early phase of the season but the way he performed and now catching up on the Warriors way of playing, I think that plan now changed.

Who's the winner of this trade? For now, in my own view, it's the Timberwolves. But for the next season, it will be on Warriors. That 2021 1st round pick is so important and Warriors surely take chances there. Next season Curry and Thompson will surely come back and I think Wiggins will be placed again on the market.

I'm now getting more interest for that future pick that Warriors will get. They are preparing for a big return!

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