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Quote from: beerlover on February 09, 2020, 10:45:24 AM

Lakers beat the warriors by just 5 points, I don't know whats wrong with them nowadays but I feel like they know they made the playoffs easily already, they wanted to show off and prove people that they are the best team in the west right now and played the best game they possibly could but now that more than half of the season gone, they know that they don't really care about proving people how good they are anymore, so they may have let the foot of the pedal and just coasting towards playoffs.

I think that shouldn't be a big deal. A win is a win no matter what's the lead.

What if we saw Milwaukee Bucks won against the New York Knicks at 5 points. Are we going to question the Bucks here?

Quote from: beerlover on February 09, 2020, 10:45:24 AM

In playoffs they have to really get better than this and start playing like they played at the start of the season, specially Danny Green who started to score very bad recently. And also, this season looks like the first time Spurs will miss the playoffs in over 3 decades, gonna be a hard April for all of them.

These players are playoff veterans. They already know what to do.

There is a big difference playing against different teams consecutively compare to the same team in a series match.

Quote from: beerlover on February 09, 2020, 10:45:24 AM

And also, this season looks like the first time Spurs will miss the playoffs in over 3 decades, gonna be a hard April for all of them.

Unfortunately, likely it will.

Actually, in the past 2 seasons, they are fighting at the bottom of the playoffs qualifiers and almost on the verge of not getting in.

2018-2019 - 7th place
2017-2018 - 7th place

Sad to see that this streak will now be broken. The longest streak in team history.

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Quote from: Golftech on February 09, 2020, 01:09:34 PM

Quote from: beerlover on February 09, 2020, 10:45:24 AM

Lakers beat the warriors by just 5 points, I don't know whats wrong with them nowadays but I feel like they know they made the playoffs easily already, they wanted to show off and prove people that they are the best team in the west right now and played the best game they possibly could but now that more than half of the season gone, they know that they don't really care about proving people how good they are anymore, so they may have let the foot of the pedal and just coasting towards playoffs.

In playoffs they have to really get better than this and start playing like they played at the start of the season, specially Danny Green who started to score very bad recently. And also, this season looks like the first time Spurs will miss the playoffs in over 3 decades, gonna be a hard April for all of them.

Lakers don't need to prove anything but instead they've needed healthy players moving to the next round. There's no need to push things out just keep playing and give some good time management with each stars that they've got. Surely in the playoffs it will be a different Lakers to compete, They are inspired to bring the world title back to LA to pay respect to Kobe.

I do agree on some points by beerlover but as said, playoffs would be a different thing for sure which isnt the same on the thing we are currently seeing.
Just what happened recently to Kobe for sure theyre much more dedicated when its already on playoffs.All of their current games might not really big in terms
of score gap but whats important is that they able to win their games.

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Quote from: beerlover on February 09, 2020, 10:45:24 AM

Lakers beat the warriors by just 5 points, I don't know whats wrong with them nowadays but I feel like they know they made the playoffs easily already, they wanted to show off and prove people that they are the best team in the west right now and played the best game they possibly could but now that more than half of the season gone, they know that they don't really care about proving people how good they are anymore, so they may have let the foot of the pedal and just coasting towards playoffs.

In playoffs they have to really get better than this and start playing like they played at the start of the season, specially Danny Green who started to score very bad recently. And also, this season looks like the first time Spurs will miss the playoffs in over 3 decades, gonna be a hard April for all of them.

Lakers don't need to prove anything but instead they've needed healthy players moving to the next round. There's no need to push things out just keep playing and give some good time management with each stars that they've got. Surely in the playoffs it will be a different Lakers to compete, They are inspired to bring the world title back to LA to pay respect to Kobe.

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Lakers beat the warriors by just 5 points, I don't know whats wrong with them nowadays but I feel like they know they made the playoffs easily already, they wanted to show off and prove people that they are the best team in the west right now and played the best game they possibly could but now that more than half of the season gone, they know that they don't really care about proving people how good they are anymore, so they may have let the foot of the pedal and just coasting towards playoffs.

In playoffs they have to really get better than this and start playing like they played at the start of the season, specially Danny Green who started to score very bad recently. And also, this season looks like the first time Spurs will miss the playoffs in over 3 decades, gonna be a hard April for all of them.

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Quote from: Oasisman on February 08, 2020, 04:50:59 AM

That's not gonna be a surprise, they are expected to be out rebounded by any team. The Rockets are way too underestimating the league's center position. That huge win against the Lakers is because they are shooting good, plus Vogel didn't maximize the opportunity to dominate them on the paint letting McGee sit a lot of time and played just 15 mins. While Howard had only 4 mins.

I guess the absence of Westbrook is the reason.

Their last game, Westbrook slammed a score of 41 points with 17-28 field goals. I guess Westbrook is really on fire at that game the reason they won. The game is shifting into long-range scorers and I think that is the reason why they are underestimating the position of the center. This might be a risk or maybe just a foolish mistake.

It is not a mistake.
This may have been a wish from Mike D'Antoni.
He want speed and he is changing the way basketball could be played.
Maybe when he saw how GSW break them down with raining three's he got this idea.
It was good when done with a complete roster.
Yeah, the WB missing the game might be the reason for the messed up gameplay.
They might need to create different types of plays whenever one star is not around.

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What they will do against Utah going to make a lot of changes. I mean they can't trade anyone anymore neither because trade is done but at this point if they are going horribly, I think they can get someone like Amare Stoudemire as a last call, not like he will be amazing at all but giving them like 10-15 minute on that spot would be really helpful for them when they are lacking height so much, dude can still give 10 minutes if Vince can 15. Otherwise if they do well against a team that has a player like Gobert, than they will continue without a sweat, I still think westbrook coming back will change too much and they will be really cool in the future with him grabbing boards.

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Quote from: Oasisman on February 08, 2020, 04:50:59 AM

That's not gonna be a surprise, they are expected to be out rebounded by any team. The Rockets are way too underestimating the league's center position. That huge win against the Lakers is because they are shooting good, plus Vogel didn't maximize the opportunity to dominate them on the paint letting McGee sit a lot of time and played just 15 mins. While Howard had only 4 mins.

I guess the absence of Westbrook is the reason.

Their last game, Westbrook slammed a score of 41 points with 17-28 field goals. I guess Westbrook is really on fire at that game the reason they won. The game is shifting into long-range scorers and I think that is the reason why they are underestimating the position of the center. This might be a risk or maybe just a foolish mistake.

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Quote from: freedomgo on February 09, 2020, 03:22:12 AM

Time for the Rockets to come back and win.

There's a game tomorrow against the Jazz and Rockets are back at home, in this game Westbrook will be back so basically they are playing with a complete line up, so let's see if they can compete with the Jazz in rebounding and beat Gobert in the paint.

I think the Rockets can compete with them definitely with Russel with them and that home crowd advantage plus analyzing their Home wins vs. Jazz away games there are some possibilities that the Rockets are on the winning side here. Though I am not that sure because their lineup has been changed compared before maybe we can see a little different now on how the Rockets will play home.

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Quote from: Bttzed03 on February 08, 2020, 11:08:51 PM

Anyone able to watch the last few seconds of the Blazers and Jazz game? It's really amazing how the three referees missed a clear goal tending. You think they messing with the point spread?

It could be. We don't know much how conspiracy works in the NBA, but sure messing up with the point spread is possible.
They didn't review the play because there was no call, and that's very unfair for not listening to the players concern. I don't blame how Lillard was so upset and frustrated from the outcome of the game. I think those officiating refs needs re-evaluation, because that was a clear goaltending.

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Time for the Rockets to come back and win.

There's a game tomorrow against the Jazz and Rockets are back at home, in this game Westbrook will be back so basically they are playing with a complete line up, so let's see if they can compete with the Jazz in rebounding and beat Gobert in the paint.

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Quote from: freedomgo on February 08, 2020, 04:02:38 AM

I'm surprise the Rockets gave up easily against the Suns, they came from a big win against the Lakers, I understand they are in a back to back game, they maybe tired, they are playing without westbrook but losing by 36 points againts the suns, looks like they didn't come to play.

This game, we saw the real disadvantage of the small ball Rockets, they got out-rebounded by a huge margin.
let's compare the rebounds this game.

Rockets - 29 while Suns - 51.

Looks to me like they are shocked at how much speed they need to make every play come true. Grin

Yes, they might be tired but how could they win every game if they cannot really learn how that small team will work.

51 rebounds means Houston just missed a lot of shots.
From that, we could see the weakness of a small roster.
As I said yesterday, it works. But it will take accuracy in their three point shots and also their plays should always score since they cannot get the offensive rebound anymore.

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Anyone able to watch the last few seconds of the Blazers and Jazz game? It's really amazing how the three referees missed a clear goal tending. You think they messing with the point spread?

I just found out that Isiah Thomas, after getting acquired from Washington on the three-team trade, was also waived by the Clippers. Poor guy, playing alongside Kahwi and PG would have been his best chance of getting a ring Grin

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Quote from: Rikafip on February 08, 2020, 05:12:49 PM

We have to keep in mind that those guys play crazy amount of games in regular season, and it takes toll, especially in back to back games, so these kind of games happen.

My bad I didn't see it coming, I could have take the Suns to win 26+ points and I should have enjoyed a great weekend.
Who would really think that they'll lose that big margin after they embarrassed the Lakers on the road.... better luck next time for me, time to focus on games now.

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Quote from: freedomgo on February 08, 2020, 04:02:38 AM

I'm surprise the Rockets gave up easily against the Suns, they came from a big win against the Lakers, I understand they are in a back to back game, they maybe tired, they are playing without westbrook but losing by 36 points againts the suns, looks like they didn't come to play.

This game, we saw the real disadvantage of the small ball Rockets, they got out-rebounded by a huge margin.
let's compare the rebounds this game.

Rockets - 29 while Suns - 51.

It was indeed surprising loss, and especially considering they lost by 36 points. I think it was one of those nights where everything went in for Phoenix. They were shooting 15/31 for 3 (48%) and Oubre made creer high 39 pts, while Rockets had 11/48 for 3, that makes it horrendous 22% and they missed Westbrook. And yeah, such high difference between those teams makes it look like Rockets weren't really aggressive and giving 100%. Rockets are usually not a bad rebounding team (they are top 10) , and even though they missed their 2nd best rebounder, still difference is huge

We have to keep in mind that those guys play crazy amount of games in regular season, and it takes toll, especially in back to back games, so these kind of games happen.

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Quote from: Captain Corporate on February 08, 2020, 01:07:34 PM

Everyone keeps talking about how Rockets got outrebounded and how this will be basically the example of literally whats about to happen constantly but the reality is they lacked westbrook and he is one of the best rebounding guards in the history of basketball, lacking him is just waaaay too important. The reason why they were capable of beating Lakers for example was they were grabbing same amount of rebounds on lakers game, they got outrebounded like hell in this game because westbrook wasn't around.

Sure rockets have a height problem, thats definitely a problem in the playoffs, however I doubt its as overrated as people think it is, everyone is acting like Warriors didn't win the ring without a center. They were literally playing curry-klay-iggy-barnes-draymond for a whole year and they won a ring like that, when they switched durant with barnes, they still didn't really had a "center" but just durant as a tall dude, still no centers at all.

You got some points when it comes to the talks of height problem but we know that rebound is definitely a big factor that should be considered.
We have seen on how this thing messed up on Rockets.Lacking Westbrook is really a big issue when it comes on inside ring defense and offense.
Its early to say but i highly agree to that playoffs problem thing.

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On offense it is not a matter for Gobert to be tall or not against people who are usually three point shooters, harden can shoot very well and
actually rockets in general could shoot very well, if gobert is too much outside than westbrook could just cut inside and finish off strong. The
problem is the rebounds, last night rockets were almost outrebounded 2 to 1 , it was something like 29 to 51 if I don't remember wrong, and that is Suns, if they play like that against everyone then they will have a serious serious problem in the playoffs.

Westbrook has to pick up the rebounds a lot more than he usually does and make a change. I would have understand a team not playing with a center if they had a guy like giannis for example but not playing with a center and having PJ Tucker equals to bad rebounds for sure.

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Everyone keeps talking about how Rockets got outrebounded and how this will be basically the example of literally whats about to happen constantly but the reality is they lacked westbrook and he is one of the best rebounding guards in the history of basketball, lacking him is just waaaay too important. The reason why they were capable of beating Lakers for example was they were grabbing same amount of rebounds on lakers game, they got outrebounded like hell in this game because westbrook wasn't around.

Sure rockets have a height problem, thats definitely a problem in the playoffs, however I doubt its as overrated as people think it is, everyone is acting like Warriors didn't win the ring without a center. They were literally playing curry-klay-iggy-barnes-draymond for a whole year and they won a ring like that, when they switched durant with barnes, they still didn't really had a "center" but just durant as a tall dude, still no centers at all.

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Quote from: cryptoaddictchie on February 08, 2020, 05:11:05 AM

Quote from: freedomgo on February 08, 2020, 04:02:38 AM

This game, we saw the real disadvantage of the small ball Rockets, they got out-rebounded by a huge margin.
let's compare the rebounds this game.

Rockets - 29 while Suns - 51.

It's not that they dont want to win, as you can see(if you watched the game) their rebounders are not effective and the Suns team has many player who got some power and huge height difference beating th on rebound, we all knew how important rebound in the game. Not having westbrook clearly dictates that their are still needed of some few players with skills. Anyway the win against Lakers is a huge victory but dont worry this lose against Suns will likely be a good reason for them to win their next game against Utaz Jazz.

If westbrook will be back in that game maybe they have a chance again.
But man, Jazz are so talll with Gobert playing as the center so they will likely struggle again and we know Jazz are a good defensive team also and they don't like to rely on one or two players, they like to move the ball very well so the points will be spread, I don't know what the odds yet but I'll likely put my bet on the Jazz here.

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Quote from: freedomgo on February 08, 2020, 04:02:38 AM

This game, we saw the real disadvantage of the small ball Rockets, they got out-rebounded by a huge margin.
let's compare the rebounds this game.

Rockets - 29 while Suns - 51.

It's not that they dont want to win, as you can see(if you watched the game) their rebounders are not effective and the Suns team has many player who got some power and huge height difference beating th on rebound, we all knew how important rebound in the game. Not having westbrook clearly dictates that their are still needed of some few players with skills. Anyway the win against Lakers is a huge victory but dont worry this lose against Suns will likely be a good reason for them to win their next game against Utaz Jazz.

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Quote from: freedomgo on February 08, 2020, 04:02:38 AM

I'm surprise the Rockets gave up easily against the Suns, they came from a big win against the Lakers, I understand they are in a back to back game, they maybe tired, they are playing without westbrook but losing by 36 points againts the suns, looks like they didn't come to play.

This game, we saw the real disadvantage of the small ball Rockets, they got out-rebounded by a huge margin.
let's compare the rebounds this game.

Rockets - 29 while Suns - 51.

That's not gonna be a surprise, they are expected to be out rebounded by any team. The Rockets are way too underestimating the league's center position. That huge win against the Lakers is because they are shooting good, plus Vogel didn't maximize the opportunity to dominate them on the paint letting McGee sit a lot of time and played just 15 mins. While Howard had only 4 mins.

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