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October 28, 2019, 05:27:04 PM
A blow out loss for the warriors this time against OKC. I think there is something wrong with how the warriors are playing. It seems that they don't have that championship grit that they have the previous season.
There are obviously many problems on the Warriors team at the moment. in these first two matches, the Warriors received a painful defeat. Game 1 they lost to the Clippers with a final score of 122-141, and today is worse. "The reality is that we fu***** suck right now," admitted Draymond Green after losing 28 points to the OKC today.

Did Draymond said in the past that they don't need Durant? lol.. look what happen to the team now.
That's a worst start for the Warriors, we are not expecting they will be a champ this season but either, we also don't expect that they will start pretty bad.
After watching this game I've thinking about the end of erea of Cleveland Cavaliers after the gone of LeBron James, Kyrie Irvings and other stars.. The same thing this season repeated with Golden State Warriors they will miss Kevin Durant a lot! As we see they are suffering a lot in their game, Curry try to play alone to make the difference but he can't do it alone, they will pay hard.
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October 28, 2019, 05:25:52 PM
The Los Angeles Lakers is leading this poll to become 2020 champions but they are not doing great at this early stage.

Once playoffs came, standings will reset to 0-0, no matter how good or worst the performance of those teams that will be included in the top 8.

And I don't know what kind of "GREAT" performance you are looking for the Lakers that you want to see at an early stage. It's just 3 games already and they won 2 of them. Do you mean their loss against the Clippers? If they were able to win that, they are now showing great?

How about Phoenix Suns beating LAC? Should we look at them now as showing great performance compare to Laker's performance?

A poll is just for reference and viewer's speculation. Not a basis that they will show great throughout the season.
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October 28, 2019, 05:22:43 PM
Curry has been trying to get into a rhythm and because there is not that many shooters around him anymore its getting harder for him to score that awesomely from three just for these two games. Of course, there is 80 more to go so they may get a lot better, remember last year when Klay played like shit for 5-6 games and started the season horribly and than dude broke the three point record?

Well, same goes for curry, dude is a beast and he could totally do that kind of crazy stuff after a while, I guess we can assess how they are in maybe 20th game, if they are still not that great and if Curry is still not a 30+ point 5+ three guy like he used to be than we can officially call dead on warriors dynasty.

I just feel like they didn't smush well with D'Lo that's all, if the team finds a way to involve those two together better than they may have a shot at a good playoff run but no matter what happens this season (including Klay coming back if he can) there is still no way they are becoming champions this year.

If GSW can sign a bigman that is capable of scoring in the inside, Curry and the other shooters will be open. They don't have an offensive threat inside the paint that's why their opponents defense is focused on their three which is the reason their offense does not work well anymore.
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October 28, 2019, 05:19:49 PM
Houston Rockets will face Oklahoma City Thunder, well Russell Westbrook will play against his old team it's a nostalgia for him, with the Duo Harden and Westbrook the Rockets became strong more than the last season, I will bet for them to win this game.
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October 28, 2019, 04:46:02 PM
DLO is overhyped even back on his Lakers days. He is inconsistent. If Brooklyn Nets does have another superstar or all-star caliber on that team, expect that DLO will not be their main gunner.
I think this depends on the team play, nets and warriors have different team play.
Look at Irving now, he is given full authority to shoot and that is why he scored a lot of points but of their 3 games, nets only won 1 game yet.
Warriors are different, they are moving the ball pretty well and they have curry and other players that that could step up anytime.
At the current state of the warriors now, its still curry who is the main scorer and Thmpson might be 2nd when he is back, so DLO needs to adjust according to his new role.
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October 28, 2019, 02:41:09 PM
Curry has been trying to get into a rhythm and because there is not that many shooters around him anymore its getting harder for him to score that awesomely from three just for these two games.

Since he is now the GSW's main offensive point, expect the increase of numbers in his field goal attempt compare to his usual. Noticeably, we can see that he is really trying to catch his phase. He used to work with other sharpshooters around so it's really a big change that suddenly, he will now shift into making lots of field goals attempts during the offense.

I just feel like they didn't smush well with D'Lo that's all, if the team finds a way to involve those two together better than they may have a shot at a good playoff run but no matter what happens this season (including Klay coming back if he can) there is still no way they are becoming champions this year.

DLO is overhyped even back on his Lakers days. He is inconsistent. If Brooklyn Nets does have another superstar or all-star caliber on that team, expect that DLO will not be their main gunner.
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October 28, 2019, 01:18:10 PM
Curry has been trying to get into a rhythm and because there is not that many shooters around him anymore its getting harder for him to score that awesomely from three just for these two games. Of course, there is 80 more to go so they may get a lot better, remember last year when Klay played like shit for 5-6 games and started the season horribly and than dude broke the three point record?

Well, same goes for curry, dude is a beast and he could totally do that kind of crazy stuff after a while, I guess we can assess how they are in maybe 20th game, if they are still not that great and if Curry is still not a 30+ point 5+ three guy like he used to be than we can officially call dead on warriors dynasty.

I just feel like they didn't smush well with D'Lo that's all, if the team finds a way to involve those two together better than they may have a shot at a good playoff run but no matter what happens this season (including Klay coming back if he can) there is still no way they are becoming champions this year.
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October 28, 2019, 01:05:27 PM
The season barely began. It is obvious from the very start that GSW will not be the top team this year because of losing key players like Iggy, KD and KT. And the new players will have to learn their system. The soonest the new starting line up can adapt to the level of play the previous members used to play, the sooner they can compete competitively. Maybe we can see improvements in the middle of this season.
There's a meme in FB where Steph was laughing during their game between the OKC. And then the caption of the meme was like the laughing in the end of the dynasty. What do you think? Is it the end of the dynasty? Well, we can't just see the best team last year to fall down easily just like that since KT isn't playing yet. Steve Kerr should be making some serious changes in here.

GSW dynasty ended last season. They lost too many players and they only have Steph and Dray and let us consider Looney too, but the rest are new and they need to adapt Kerr's system. Klay maybe can return end of regular season but the question is, can this present players accomplish the mission of proceeding to the playoffs? I love to see them in the playoffs with Klay but it will be very difficult with many new strong teams competing to join the playoffs like Minnesota and Dallas.
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October 28, 2019, 12:27:07 PM
The season barely began. It is obvious from the very start that GSW will not be the top team this year because of losing key players like Iggy, KD and KT. And the new players will have to learn their system. The soonest the new starting line up can adapt to the level of play the previous members used to play, the sooner they can compete competitively. Maybe we can see improvements in the middle of this season.
There's a meme in FB where Steph was laughing during their game between the OKC. And then the caption of the meme was like the laughing in the end of the dynasty. What do you think? Is it the end of the dynasty? Well, we can't just see the best team last year to fall down easily just like that since KT isn't playing yet. Steve Kerr should be making some serious changes in here.
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October 28, 2019, 11:59:05 AM
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yeah but these are still the first two matches. there is still a chance in the next match. but if GSW doesn't change the strategy and only rely on Curry, I think the results will be the same in the next match. and let's hope that Thompson will recover from his injury soon and be able to play again for the Warriors

He will play again for the warriors but not this season. Whatever improvement GSW has in their mind, they must do it with their current roster.

Is it me or you also guys noticed Lebron declining? The king is old and it is showing lately. He is not that physical nowadays. 

It is expected. It is his 16th season in NBA already. Even how great Lebron is, he cannot deny that father time has caught up with him. Changing how he plays is the only way to cope up with it.
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October 28, 2019, 11:31:16 AM
The Los Angeles Lakers is leading this poll to become 2020 champions but they are not doing great at this early stage. There chemistry is to be found yet. Is it me or you also guys noticed Lebron declining? The king is old and it is showing lately. He is not that physical nowadays. 

You are not the only one noticing James changes his style play. He is going old, no question about that but at his age he is still playing good basketball in my opinion. Yes he is not physical, but I guess he evolved and he knows that he can't go physical and not suffer a injury just like what happened to him last season.

And it's also evident because we have someone that we compare to Lebron, and that is Kawhi Leonard.

So people are now seeing how Lebron plays, specially in their first game wherein Lebron was not aggressive enough while Kawhi at his prime, playing good defense and can score more points. But that's how it is, James is more of a play maker now in Lakers, although they have Rondo to do that, but Lebron will take the bulk of play making and maybe that's the reason why he is not that physical but instead just outside and shoot. But there's no doubt that he can still penetrate and give us some high lights dunks.
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October 28, 2019, 11:19:15 AM
A blow out loss for the warriors this time against OKC. I think there is something wrong with how the warriors are playing. It seems that they don't have that championship grit that they have the previous season.
There are obviously many problems on the Warriors team at the moment. in these first two matches, the Warriors received a painful defeat. Game 1 they lost to the Clippers with a final score of 122-141, and today is worse. "The reality is that we fu***** suck right now," admitted Draymond Green after losing 28 points to the OKC today.

Did Draymond said in the past that they don't need Durant? lol.. look what happen to the team now.
That's a worst start for the Warriors, we are not expecting they will be a champ this season but either, we also don't expect that they will start pretty bad.
I remember that last year lol (https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2806333-report-draymond-greens-comments-on-kevin-durant-free-agency-concern-warriors). Draymond was said that they can win without Durant. Now see warriors right now lol.

Lets all remember why they got Kevin Durant in the first place, they couldn't live with the fact that they lost to the Cleveland Cavalies after leading the series by 3-1 and now that he is gone, it seems that they have reverted to their default settings having lost two games in a row.
yeah but these are still the first two matches. there is still a chance in the next match. but if GSW doesn't change the strategy and only rely on Curry, I think the results will be the same in the next match. and let's hope that Thompson will recover from his injury soon and be able to play again for the Warriors
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October 28, 2019, 11:05:39 AM
The Los Angeles Lakers is leading this poll to become 2020 champions but they are not doing great at this early stage. There chemistry is to be found yet. Is it me or you also guys noticed Lebron declining? The king is old and it is showing lately. He is not that physical nowadays. 

You are not the only one noticing James changes his style play. He is going old, no question about that but at his age he is still playing good basketball in my opinion. Yes he is not physical, but I guess he evolved and he knows that he can't go physical and not suffer a injury just like what happened to him last season.
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October 28, 2019, 10:59:44 AM
A blow out loss for the warriors this time against OKC. I think there is something wrong with how the warriors are playing. It seems that they don't have that championship grit that they have the previous season.
There are obviously many problems on the Warriors team at the moment. in these first two matches, the Warriors received a painful defeat. Game 1 they lost to the Clippers with a final score of 122-141, and today is worse. "The reality is that we fu***** suck right now," admitted Draymond Green after losing 28 points to the OKC today.

Did Draymond said in the past that they don't need Durant? lol.. look what happen to the team now.
That's a worst start for the Warriors, we are not expecting they will be a champ this season but either, we also don't expect that they will start pretty bad.
I remember that last year lol (https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2806333-report-draymond-greens-comments-on-kevin-durant-free-agency-concern-warriors). Draymond was said that they can win without Durant. Now see warriors right now lol.

Lets all remember why they got Kevin Durant in the first place, they couldn't live with the fact that they lost to the Cleveland Cavalies after leading the series by 3-1 and now that he is gone, it seems that they have reverted to their default settings having lost two games in a row.
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October 28, 2019, 10:22:16 AM
The Los Angeles Lakers is leading this poll to become 2020 champions but they are not doing great at this early stage. There chemistry is to be found yet.  
I would completely agree with this comment if they were 0-3. They lost the opening game and won the next two. It appears that they've adjusted quicker than I expected.


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Is it me or you also guys noticed Lebron declining? The king is old and it is showing lately. He is not that physical nowadays.
He knows he's not getting younger that's why he changed the way he plays. Not being too physical is not a basis of saying a player is declining though.




There's so much happening in the West teams that some achievements in the East are overshadowed.

D. Rose is looking like his old self while playing for Detroit. They're 1-2 currently but he's doing well.
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October 28, 2019, 09:24:55 AM
The Los Angeles Lakers is leading this poll to become 2020 champions but they are not doing great at this early stage. There chemistry is to be found yet. Is it me or you also guys noticed Lebron declining? The king is old and it is showing lately. He is not that physical nowadays. 
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October 28, 2019, 09:03:56 AM
A blow out loss for the warriors this time against OKC. I think there is something wrong with how the warriors are playing. It seems that they don't have that championship grit that they have the previous season.

The season barely began. It is obvious from the very start that GSW will not be the top team this year because of losing key players like Iggy, KD and KT. And the new players will have to learn their system. The soonest the new starting line up can adapt to the level of play the previous members used to play, the sooner they can compete competitively. Maybe we can see improvements in the middle of this season.
It takes time for them to formed this new young guns to develop same concept as how this team become the top franchise for 5 years., 3 world titles and 2 division titles. Tough for all of them as  both coaches and new players needs to work as one to continue finding the right blend of players inside the court. Curry's leadership will be tested the whole season of this league while splash partner is side out due to it's injury.
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October 28, 2019, 08:00:51 AM



What they showed early this season was not the Warriors we used to see but despite of that, they are still rank number 6 in the NBA betting odds to win in the championship at 14.00, at this stage I think the Blazers has a better chance compare to the Warriors but they are only valued at 34.50.

It's completely a different team now.
They ranked 6th in sportsbook maybe because the name GSW still sounds like a championship team, and I have to agree with you that the Blazers are a more better team than the GSW and even the Rockets.
I'm thinking that the OKC blowout against GSW will be a message for Steve to be worry about the Warrior's condition this year.



For sure there will be  a tight competition in the west so that top 5 in ranking might be taken by the team who are already showing their true potential.
I have my personal ranking if GSW will not end in top 5.

1) Lakers
2) Clippers
3) Rockets
4) Nuggets
5) spurs.

I take Blazers or Wolves over the Rockets and Nuggets this season. My intuition is telling me that they're going to have a great season this year. Specially with KAT shooting 3's with efficiency.
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October 28, 2019, 07:43:26 AM
Only Green and Curry are only playing from their original big 3, (Klay is injured, obviously). D'angelo didn't contribute that much in that game.

And OKC was playing very good specially their 3's. They've lucky they only lost 28 points, because it ballooned to 40 at one point if I'm not mistaken. So I guess, we won't see GSW in the top this year, not even in the top 5, to be honest.
For sure there will be  a tight competition in the west so that top 5 in ranking might be taken by the team who are already showing their true potential.
I have my personal ranking if GSW will not end in top 5.

1) Lakers
2) Clippers
3) Rockets
4) Nuggets
5) spurs.

I thought Clippers deserves to be in the top 1 because they've showed their potential already even without PG playing with them yet.
But I respect your personal opinion since no one of us here know the real standing by the end of this regular season and this off season is the most important so we can't really judge who will win based on what they showed early in this season.

Also, we also have consider some new additional players in the middle of the season, through acquisition or trade if possible, so that could also change the our expectation in the future.
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October 28, 2019, 06:11:41 AM
Only Green and Curry are only playing from their original big 3, (Klay is injured, obviously). D'angelo didn't contribute that much in that game.

And OKC was playing very good specially their 3's. They've lucky they only lost 28 points, because it ballooned to 40 at one point if I'm not mistaken. So I guess, we won't see GSW in the top this year, not even in the top 5, to be honest.
For sure there will be  a tight competition in the west so that top 5 in ranking might be taken by the team who are already showing their true potential.
I have my personal ranking if GSW will not end in top 5.

1) Lakers
2) Clippers
3) Rockets
4) Nuggets
5) spurs.
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