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July 19, 2019, 01:56:23 AM
How the hell these projections show denver at the second seed? I mean Denver was alright last season but they literally barely beat an injury ridden spurs in 7 games (even though they were playing as second seed vs seven seed) and then lost to Portland.

I mean I get it they are good and they finished second seed last year but last year teams were not really caring about that much because they knew for a fact that warriors (with addition of boogie as well) would just sprint to championship easily, nobody really assumed warriors would get so many injuries. This season with that many teams contenting for title, its impossible for such a young team to get to second seed. Mine would be ;

 1- Clippers
 2- Lakers
 3- Rockets
 4- Warriors
 5- Denver
 6- Blazers
 7- Spurs
 8- Jazz

They are a young team and they have continuity. You cannot take that away from them. Regular season is different from playoffs. Since they are younger and healthy, they can play all 82 games so they are a top contender for the top seed.  If they fall from playoffs last season, it's because they have less experience in the PLAYOFFS. They will be better this year.
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July 19, 2019, 01:37:22 AM
As a regular NBA analyst, it's common for them to make predictions. He is also a co-host in a sports TV show.
It's part of his job and knowing that he's into the professional scene before, he can predict and say what's on his mind.



Indeed it's he's job and with his experienced he have the that abilities to bring his opinion regarding to his pick predicting the possible things that can happen inside the league this coming new season, it's up to the team if how they'll perform this coming season.
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July 19, 2019, 12:53:02 AM
As a regular NBA analyst, it's common for them to make predictions. He is also a co-host in a sports TV show.
It's part of his job and knowing that he's into the professional scene before, he can predict and say what's on his mind.

Well being a former NBA player his analyst is something that we need to look at. Remember even though those guys are not playing anymore, they still have contacts and insider information. Just like us here, we have our own predictions however, it doesn't have any weight as compare to those NBA analyst because they really know what's going on inside and outside of the basketball court. So I will respect what Rose has put up in his list, just sayin'.
Yep, those inside info are really being passed to them. It's like that they are in a big organization and each of them knows everything on what are the trades and rumors that are about to happen.

Moving on about his predictions, the teams still had enough time for the regular season.
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July 18, 2019, 10:47:33 PM
I reckon that might be the western conference seeding for the end of the regular season. How can you seed them after the playoffs?
The ranking might not happen after the regular season due to possible injuries or bad chemistry, we will talk the playoffs after he regular season so we can see the clear picture.

The sportsbooks also have similar projections on the top 3 based on the odds. However, if it is for the whole league, put the Bucks on no.3.

Maybe the bucks have a chance also, but if we see them not in the top 3, that means we will get a better odds if we bet on them.
They are underrated due to recent changes, but I think they'll do better in the coming season.
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July 18, 2019, 10:12:16 PM
How the hell these projections show denver at the second seed? I mean Denver was alright last season but they literally barely beat an injury ridden spurs in 7 games (even though they were playing as second seed vs seven seed) and then lost to Portland.

I mean I get it they are good and they finished second seed last year but last year teams were not really caring about that much because they knew for a fact that warriors (with addition of boogie as well) would just sprint to championship easily, nobody really assumed warriors would get so many injuries. This season with that many teams contenting for title, its impossible for such a young team to get to second seed. Mine would be ;

 1- Clippers
 2- Lakers
 3- Rockets
 4- Warriors
 5- Denver
 6- Blazers
 7- Spurs
 8- Jazz

LOL.

They play different when it comes to the playoffs. That is why even just for the 8th seed it will be worth the shot.
Season is about the attendance of the roster, they dont play that hard anymore in season to protect themselves.
Denver have young players in their roster and that is why they made it as the 2nd seed in the West.

Don't get me wrong but look at the Roster of other teams in the West. Yes, they are all powerhouse teams but.... they are not getting any younger. They cannot complete 82 games anymore and that means something if you want to be number 1 seed. Every game will count.

I reckon that might be the western conference seeding for the end of the regular season. How can you seed them after the playoffs?

The sportsbooks also have similar projections on the top 3 based on the odds. However, if it is for the whole league, put the Bucks on no.3.
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July 18, 2019, 07:47:30 PM
~snip~
What could be the reason behind their predictions? Seems to me that they have a lot of trust of the two main guns of the Rockets even though they have not been tested lately if they could jell very well. They are individually a good player but in tandem, that remain to be seen.
They should be wrong, the Warriors are well disrespected here, they've been in many championships so I don't think they will easily just give up their pride even without Durant. I'm also surprise with the prediction of in the top 1, both predicted the Rockets to be in the top spot, I think it's not likely to happen, I still think Lakers or Clippers are also a better team.

They don't have Kevin Durant anymore and a lot of Western team have uplift their roster and then we have the Klay Thompson injury as well and no Iggy. So from their core team, it's only Curry and Green who's going to play. So I don't think that there is disrespect here, it's that the landscape has change a lot for next season.

Competition is at a high level in their conference so it will be very difficult for them to even land in the top four. And what's more interesting is the prediction that James Harden and Russell Westbrook playing good basketball enough for them to be on the number one spot.
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July 18, 2019, 07:25:49 PM
As a regular NBA analyst, it's common for them to make predictions. He is also a co-host in a sports TV show.
It's part of his job and knowing that he's into the professional scene before, he can predict and say what's on his mind.



Well being a former NBA player his analyst is something that we need to look at. Remember even though those guys are not playing anymore, they still have contacts and insider information. Just like us here, we have our own predictions however, it doesn't have any weight as compare to those NBA analyst because they really know what's going on inside and outside of the basketball court. So I will respect what Rose has put up in his list, just sayin'.
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July 18, 2019, 07:24:44 PM
How the hell these projections show denver at the second seed? I mean Denver was alright last season but they literally barely beat an injury ridden spurs in 7 games (even though they were playing as second seed vs seven seed) and then lost to Portland.

Do you expect that a 2nd seed shouldn't have a problem dealing with the 7th seed? When that became the basis for playoffs dominance? It's West. Even 8th seed can upset the 1st seed and I can give you examples here.

Looks like you just saw Nuggets record but didn't see their actual performance. I'm expecting they will be like that again next season but of course, not expecting to be as a 2nd seed again but surely they will bring competition in the West.

its impossible for such a young team to get to second seed.

Does it really matter? As long as they were able to make the playoffs, that's good.

NBA analyst does have their own criteria. Don't be too serious about their picks.
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July 18, 2019, 07:13:05 PM
Yeah we will see now if Kyrie is the real problem out there. But they dont have Rozier now and do have Kemba. It will be a different kind of game unlike 2 years ago where Kyrie is out and the bench are in control.
It will be a different story.
They were doing great when Kyrie was out. I haven't heard Kemba being a locker room diva like Kyrie and I expect him to blend well with the relatively young Celtics lads. As I said, other teams can't sleep on them. They're deadly.


 
I agree that you can't sleep on Celtics because of Kemba Walker. I'm not aware though of him being a locker room diva so that is something that he needs to check. Celtics is still a young team and they need some leadership from him and not act like he is the main man. I would say that Kyrie try to be a leader on Celtics, but I guess he lacks that communication skills that good leader possessed like Jordan or even Kobe.
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July 18, 2019, 06:33:01 PM
As a regular NBA analyst, it's common for them to make predictions. He is also a co-host in a sports TV show.
It's part of his job and knowing that he's into the professional scene before, he can predict and say what's on his mind.

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July 18, 2019, 06:13:59 PM
How the hell these projections show denver at the second seed? I mean Denver was alright last season but they literally barely beat an injury ridden spurs in 7 games (even though they were playing as second seed vs seven seed) and then lost to Portland.

I mean I get it they are good and they finished second seed last year but last year teams were not really caring about that much because they knew for a fact that warriors (with addition of boogie as well) would just sprint to championship easily, nobody really assumed warriors would get so many injuries. This season with that many teams contenting for title, its impossible for such a young team to get to second seed. Mine would be ;

 1- Clippers
 2- Lakers
 3- Rockets
 4- Warriors
 5- Denver
 6- Blazers
 7- Spurs
 8- Jazz

LOL.

They play different when it comes to the playoffs. That is why even just for the 8th seed it will be worth the shot.
Season is about the attendance of the roster, they dont play that hard anymore in season to protect themselves.
Denver have young players in their roster and that is why they made it as the 2nd seed in the West.

Don't get me wrong but look at the Roster of other teams in the West. Yes, they are all powerhouse teams but.... they are not getting any younger. They cannot complete 82 games anymore and that means something if you want to be number 1 seed. Every game will count.
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July 18, 2019, 02:12:01 PM
How the hell these projections show denver at the second seed? I mean Denver was alright last season but they literally barely beat an injury ridden spurs in 7 games (even though they were playing as second seed vs seven seed) and then lost to Portland.

I mean I get it they are good and they finished second seed last year but last year teams were not really caring about that much because they knew for a fact that warriors (with addition of boogie as well) would just sprint to championship easily, nobody really assumed warriors would get so many injuries. This season with that many teams contenting for title, its impossible for such a young team to get to second seed. Mine would be ;

 1- Clippers
 2- Lakers
 3- Rockets
 4- Warriors
 5- Denver
 6- Blazers
 7- Spurs
 8- Jazz
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July 18, 2019, 12:20:46 PM
Yeah we will see now if Kyrie is the real problem out there. But they dont have Rozier now and do have Kemba. It will be a different kind of game unlike 2 years ago where Kyrie is out and the bench are in control.
It will be a different story.
They were doing great when Kyrie was out. I haven't heard Kemba being a locker room diva like Kyrie and I expect him to blend well with the relatively young Celtics lads. As I said, other teams can't sleep on them. They're deadly.


 

Kemba Walker will do good with the Celtics. Michael Jordan didn't personally trained to be nothing. He was trained to llead the Hornets and his leadership skills will no be tested out by a better team. But speaking of on who is better as a leader I don't think someone has a edge over anybody. I will say that Kyrie and Kemba are on par woth how they will lead a team.
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July 18, 2019, 09:51:26 AM

I favor the list of Jalen. He is right that Lebron is already old and may probably rest more and not play all 82 games. He cannot play like he played in Cavs where he plays 40-minute games without injury. Even if he stays healthy, the team will rest them to stay healthy for the playoffs.


If I'm not mistaken it's only the season 2017-2018 where LeBron played the whole 82 games and averages almost 40 minutes a game. The poor performance of the Cavs roster back then is the reason and he stays healthy the whole season. So in here, I don't take that as a basis for Jalen's analysis. His current teammates in Lakers is way different to that 2017-18 Cavs lineup. And if LeBron got injured again like what happened last season, Lakers still can remain competitive.

But I agree that some of Jalen's pointers do have sense. Well, he is a longtime NBA analyst.

I just don't want to hear Charles Barkley's prediction nor his analysis lol.



Any other people here agree that houston  will be the top seed in the west this year? Does the addition of westbrook boost their bid that much? I doubt. I've got at least the clippers, the lakers and the warriors above the rockets this year. And pelicans over san antonio? Or the blazers? The hype on williamso, ball ingram and company are real. Goodluck if they even manage to reach the playoffs this year.

I don't see any valid analysis yet why Westbrook and Harden are not compatible. All I read is "ball hog" which is out of the context. These two sure knows what to do "better than us".

In general, Westbrook's addition increase Rocket's offensive power as no doubt his penetrating skills and athleticism is impressive.

But I don't take that as a basis that they will be the top team in the West. Honestly, next season is unpredictable. The analysis will just remain analysis.




What could be the reason behind their predictions? Seems to me that they have a lot of trust of the two main guns of the Rockets even though they have not been tested lately if they could jell very well. They are individually a good player but in tandem, that remain to be seen.

As a regular NBA analyst, it's common for them to make predictions. He is also a co-host in a sports TV show.



Yeah we will see now if Kyrie is the real problem out there. But they dont have Rozier now and do have Kemba. It will be a different kind of game unlike 2 years ago where Kyrie is out and the bench are in control.
It will be a different story.

Kyrie will be the leader of Brooklyn Nets next season and will be their main choice for offense. No solid lineups, solid teammates, no superstars, all-stars but purely role players and some average guys that make some playoffs experience last year. He just needs to stay healthy the whole season or Nets will be doomed.
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July 18, 2019, 09:24:43 AM
Yeah we will see now if Kyrie is the real problem out there. But they dont have Rozier now and do have Kemba. It will be a different kind of game unlike 2 years ago where Kyrie is out and the bench are in control.
It will be a different story.
They were doing great when Kyrie was out. I haven't heard Kemba being a locker room diva like Kyrie and I expect him to blend well with the relatively young Celtics lads. As I said, other teams can't sleep on them. They're deadly.


 
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July 18, 2019, 08:54:32 AM

Fair point. But as a fan, we are leaning towards the "not so good" Houston because of the pairing of the two ball hoggers in the NBA. As fans we've seen them grown individually, but being in the same team? We all have our doubts.

Of course we can't discounted the fact that injuries could happen to Lebron or Kawhi again. But if they remain healthy, I don't think that Houston can be the number one seed in the West.

Good one.
I forgot to add that Harden almost perfect playing the whole regular season.
78. There is the point of Jalen. As of winning the game because of the conflict of two ball hog then maybe Mike D'Antoni is already preparing for that.
As long as both are playing healthy then it is still a good sign to be in the number 1 seed.

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Everybody wants their rematch. I bet even the Warriors and Sixers wants that chance to get their revenge on Kahwi with the Raptors.

Everybody is talking about how Giannis would improve next season and I also hope he does because the Sixers will definitely be a tough competition. I would not be sleeping on that Celtics team also now that they got Kyrie out.

Yeah we will see now if Kyrie is the real problem out there. But they dont have Rozier now and do have Kemba. It will be a different kind of game unlike 2 years ago where Kyrie is out and the bench are in control.
It will be a different story.
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July 18, 2019, 08:44:24 AM
Wow Jalen thinks the Warriors will sink to the 7th spot after years of dominating the western conference.  I predicting the Lakers to finish in first, Lebron will have a strong fire burning after missing the playoffs last year and he got to rest after so many deep playoff runs year after year.

I favor the list of Jalen. He is right that Lebron is already old and may probably rest more and not play all 82 games. He cannot play like he played in Cavs where he plays 40-minute games without injury. Even if he stays healthy, the team will rest them to stay healthy for the playoffs.

But I believe nuggets will be the top seed for the west because they are younger and have more chemistry than HOU.

Even most young healthy players don't play all 82 games anymore.  This is a different era of the NBA and it is much more critical to be rested and healthy in the playoffs instead of trying to grind out homecourt advantage.
In the 2004-2005 season Lebron led the league with 42.4 mpg and in 2017-2018 he led the league with 36.9 so you can see the play time dropping for league leaders.

Any other people here agree that houston  will be the top seed in the west this year? Does the addition of westbrook boost their bid that much? I doubt. I've got at least the clippers, the lakers and the warriors above the rockets this year. And pelicans over san antonio? Or the blazers? The hype on williamso, ball ingram and company are real. Goodluck if they even manage to reach the playoffs this year.
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July 18, 2019, 08:24:06 AM
Wow Jalen thinks the Warriors will sink to the 7th spot after years of dominating the western conference.  I predicting the Lakers to finish in first, Lebron will have a strong fire burning after missing the playoffs last year and he got to rest after so many deep playoff runs year after year.

I favor the list of Jalen. He is right that Lebron is already old and may probably rest more and not play all 82 games. He cannot play like he played in Cavs where he plays 40-minute games without injury. Even if he stays healthy, the team will rest them to stay healthy for the playoffs.

But I believe nuggets will be the top seed for the west because they are younger and have more chemistry than HOU.

Even most young healthy players don't play all 82 games anymore.  This is a different era of the NBA and it is much more critical to be rested and healthy in the playoffs instead of trying to grind out homecourt advantage.
In the 2004-2005 season Lebron led the league with 42.4 mpg and in 2017-2018 he led the league with 36.9 so you can see the play time dropping for league leaders.
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July 18, 2019, 07:49:20 AM
~snip~
What could be the reason behind their predictions? Seems to me that they have a lot of trust of the two main guns of the Rockets even though they have not been tested lately if they could jell very well. They are individually a good player but in tandem, that remain to be seen.
They should be wrong, the Warriors are well disrespected here, they've been in many championships so I don't think they will easily just give up their pride even without Durant.

I think they are not disrespecting the Warriors, it is just that, it is shown on the last game they have without Kevin Durant.

It is true that they are in the Finals for a lot of times but the time is changing and that is the same with the teams too. They will be facing great teams and that is not the same in the past. This time, it is like a tag-team battle and there are a lot of teams that has their own pair. GSW is said to have Thompson and Curry and they have a lot of opponents to beat.

Warriors loss against the Raptors because they are not healthy, Thompson was a big reason why they loss, if he was not injured, I don't know if it's still the same outcome. Durant was out in the Rockets series, but in the WCF even without Durant, they dominated the Blazers, that's how good they are.
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July 18, 2019, 05:28:48 AM
~snip~
What could be the reason behind their predictions? Seems to me that they have a lot of trust of the two main guns of the Rockets even though they have not been tested lately if they could jell very well. They are individually a good player but in tandem, that remain to be seen.
They should be wrong, the Warriors are well disrespected here, they've been in many championships so I don't think they will easily just give up their pride even without Durant.

I think they are not disrespecting the Warriors, it is just that, it is shown on the last game they have without Kevin Durant.

It is true that they are in the Finals for a lot of times but the time is changing and that is the same with the teams too. They will be facing great teams and that is not the same in the past. This time, it is like a tag-team battle and there are a lot of teams that has their own pair. GSW is said to have Thompson and Curry and they have a lot of opponents to beat.
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