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July 16, 2019, 06:31:13 AM
Westbrook and Harden played together since they were kids, they know how they play and they know their own styles as well, they are not worried about it so why should you be.
I didn't know about that, I've been following the NBA for many seasons but never had time to get to know about them with their backgrounds. If this would finally be for the good of Rockets then there will a chemistry for the both of it which will result as a team. I don't want to assume base on that history but it's also possible that there's something that has changed for both of them. Two superstars, we'll wishing all the best for this tandem and for Rockets though.
Ain't sure how this two Stars will have a good chemistry not unless they are now matured enough to adjust with the type of games that they have, Westbrook and Harden are both good for individual talents, we will witness what adjustment they both willing to take in order to gain more winning chances.
Base on what bitgolden have mentioned, they had a past of playing together since kids and I think they're treasuring playing those moments up until now. I think before transfers and trades, there will be a consent or notification for each player of the team just to inform that they will be added by another player or someone from them will get off to be traded off elsewhere. It's still early I guess for those bad speculations, I just want to see this tandem click.
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July 16, 2019, 06:10:15 AM
They just got their playoff experience already so now they are looking at how the team will go for next season with no disruptions for the core team.
Speaking of this.
Want to ask about your opinion everybody..

Are there any benefits for those team who didn't really shuffle their line ups? Like, there are no changes in their line up from the previous season.
For what my point of view is, since they don't have new teammates, their play will still remain as is since they are the same line up for their previous games.
Opposite that is when a particular team has really shuffled their line ups, like trade here, trade there, their playstyle will likely make some different, right?
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July 16, 2019, 04:21:14 AM
I am also curious on the effect of the Antetokounmpo brothers on Milwaukee bucks. I will still be rooting for this team since our MVP is here the "Greek Freak". I know Giannis Antetokounmpo will make his comeback to the finals again.

For sure, the kid got his first MVP and I'm sure he is very inspired to proved that it's no fluke and that his name belongs to the elite now, so yes, during this off season he will re-build again and do hope that he improved more on this shooting.

They are already solid team for me, a dream team, they don't have so much noise making on the drafts, what I only heard was the brother of Giannis Antetokounmpo which is Thanasis Antetokounmpo. For me, making their lineups solid will help them to get to the finals again and top seeder.

Haven't heard much changes on the team this free agency, they wanted to keep the team impact as much as possible which is a good move. They just got their playoff experience already so now they are looking at how the team will go for next season with no disruptions for the core team.
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July 16, 2019, 03:49:05 AM
I am also curious on the effect of the Antetokounmpo brothers on Milwaukee bucks. I will still be rooting for this team since our MVP is here the "Greek Freak". I know Giannis Antetokounmpo will make his comeback to the finals again.

They are already solid team for me, a dream team, they don't have so much noise making on the drafts, what I only heard was the brother of Giannis Antetokounmpo which is Thanasis Antetokounmpo. For me, making their lineups solid will help them to get to the finals again and top seeder.
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July 16, 2019, 03:14:53 AM
Is there anyone that's thinking of a big boost to the team of Brooklyn?

Before this team has always been one at the bottom but now they've acquired two great players although many are doubting KD because of the injury that he had.

Yes, compared to last season, the current lineup of Brooklyn Nets is much more improved.

Even Kevin Durant is expected to be ruled out (there's no official announcement yet) for the rest of the next season, having Kyrie Irving on the floor will surely change the usual gameplay of Brooklyn. He will be the main man of this team throughout the season. No conflicts in terms of playing roles unlike in Celtics (Rozier, Tatum, Brown etc.)This is a great opportunity for Kyrie to show what's more in him although expect some difficulties on the way as we all know the big difference between his teammates in Boston Celtics and to the current ones.

DeAndre Jordan, although not performing well last season is a good addition too on Brooklyn's big man.
Yeah that's what I'm expecting and all of the teams that had changed roster, although this has been reported but it seems like fans are belittling this change though I'm not a fan of them but this team is going to be exciting to watch and see their progress.
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July 16, 2019, 02:57:06 AM
Is there anyone that's thinking of a big boost to the team of Brooklyn?

Before this team has always been one at the bottom but now they've acquired two great players although many are doubting KD because of the injury that he had.
Yes, compared to last season, the current lineup of Brooklyn Nets is much more improved.
Brooklyn had a decent run last season. For next season, we'll have to see that first. Kyrie, Deandre and others on the roster will be playing with each other for the first time if I am not mistaken. They'll need to work on their chemistry.
They have to as the new guys are leading them, but I'm pretty sure they can have a good chemistry and even without Durant, they will be in the playoffs.
I think the only think that has no movement on the entire roster is the Bucks, they will also be a threat in the coming season as they were coming from a very big loss against the Raptors, they were the favorites so they will not forget that, I'm sure Giannis were too much affected on that loss.
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July 16, 2019, 02:44:42 AM
Is there anyone that's thinking of a big boost to the team of Brooklyn?

Before this team has always been one at the bottom but now they've acquired two great players although many are doubting KD because of the injury that he had.
Yes, compared to last season, the current lineup of Brooklyn Nets is much more improved.
Brooklyn had a decent run last season. For next season, we'll have to see that first. Kyrie, Deandre and others on the roster will be playing with each other for the first time if I am not mistaken. They'll need to work on their chemistry.
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July 16, 2019, 02:42:20 AM
AD played on Pelicans as well and they were not that good, so 2 players who are definitely good but couldn't make their teams that good getting together makes them second best team? I feel like they would be more like 4th best team on western conference let alone the whole league.
Him and cousins did played good together. But they lack the experience that time, and now with Lebron, at least someone can 'mentor' him.

And we also have to remember that both players are prone to injury, cousins and AD has not played the entire season without an injury problem, and because of that it affects the chemistry of the team as their injury would not only make them out in days, but sometimes it take weeks or months before they can come back and play.
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July 15, 2019, 07:31:18 PM
Everyone seems to think that Lakers will be heavy favorites this season and even if you look at the sportsbooks you see that the second best odds behind clippers is Lakers. Do you guys really think that they would be that good? I mean I know they have Lebron and AD but they had Lebron last year too and didn't even make it to playoffs, so now we put AD on top of it so of course they will become better but second best team in the league type of good? Does getting AD make a team "not playoff worthy" to "second best team" all of a sudden?

It is because Lebron got injured last year. I think they're in the 3rd-5th spot when Lebron got that injury. And as expected, they suffered successive losses and eventually didn't make it. Of course, adding a good elite player will chance the complexion of who is going to be the favourites to win, according to sport bookies.

AD played on Pelicans as well and they were not that good, so 2 players who are definitely good but couldn't make their teams that good getting together makes them second best team? I feel like they would be more like 4th best team on western conference let alone the whole league.

Him and cousins did played good together. But they lack the experience that time, and now with Lebron, at least someone can 'mentor' him.
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July 15, 2019, 07:07:29 PM
Is there anyone that's thinking of a big boost to the team of Brooklyn?

Before this team has always been one at the bottom but now they've acquired two great players although many are doubting KD because of the injury that he had.

Yes, compared to last season, the current lineup of Brooklyn Nets is much more improved.

Even Kevin Durant is expected to be ruled out (there's no official announcement yet) for the rest of the next season, having Kyrie Irving on the floor will surely change the usual gameplay of Brooklyn. He will be the main man of this team throughout the season. No conflicts in terms of playing roles unlike in Celtics (Rozier, Tatum, Brown etc.)This is a great opportunity for Kyrie to show what's more in him although expect some difficulties on the way as we all know the big difference between his teammates in Boston Celtics and to the current ones.

DeAndre Jordan, although not performing well last season is a good addition too on Brooklyn's big man.
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July 15, 2019, 06:46:52 PM
Is there anyone that's thinking of a big boost to the team of Brooklyn?

Before this team has always been one at the bottom but now they've acquired two great players although many are doubting KD because of the injury that he had.
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July 15, 2019, 06:20:28 PM
Everyone seems to think that Lakers will be heavy favorites this season and even if you look at the sportsbooks you see that the second best odds behind clippers is Lakers. Do you guys really think that they would be that good? I mean I know they have Lebron and AD but they had Lebron last year too and didn't even make it to playoffs, so now we put AD on top of it so of course they will become better but second best team in the league type of good? Does getting AD make a team "not playoff worthy" to "second best team" all of a sudden?

AD played on Pelicans as well and they were not that good, so 2 players who are definitely good but couldn't make their teams that good getting together makes them second best team? I feel like they would be more like 4th best team on western conference let alone the whole league.

Last year was different and Lebron had that bad injury in his groin.

Last year also told us what the new Lebron will look like. He keeps on passing the ball and just making plays.
More like a Magic Johnson style. Now, he had found is Kareem.
That is what makes it one of the crowd favorite.
But there is more. The simple reason that it is LA. Take them to the Knicks and it will be the same.
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July 15, 2019, 03:23:26 PM
I guess we will really have to see it before we can judge. The first 10 games will tell if there is a conflict.

Both are used to be a ball-hog for several seasons.

Let's extend the chemistry process to 30 games lol. 10-15 games are trial. More than 20 games, they will now work for the solution to the problems they will encounter on the trial period. If after 30 games, still, nothing good happens, then the trade failed.  I'm expecting for a changed but not within the few early games.

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AD played on Pelicans as well and they were not that good, so 2 players who are definitely good but couldn't make their teams that good getting together makes them second best team? I feel like they would be more like 4th best team on western conference let alone the whole league.

They are lack of supporting cast, AD@NOP and LBJ@LAL. With the revamp of Lakers rosters, I do expect for a changed.

And just because they are favorites this season, it does mean they are the best team. Odds are not the basis.
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July 15, 2019, 02:44:41 PM
Everyone seems to think that Lakers will be heavy favorites this season and even if you look at the sportsbooks you see that the second best odds behind clippers is Lakers. Do you guys really think that they would be that good? I mean I know they have Lebron and AD but they had Lebron last year too and didn't even make it to playoffs, so now we put AD on top of it so of course they will become better but second best team in the league type of good? Does getting AD make a team "not playoff worthy" to "second best team" all of a sudden?

AD played on Pelicans as well and they were not that good, so 2 players who are definitely good but couldn't make their teams that good getting together makes them second best team? I feel like they would be more like 4th best team on western conference let alone the whole league.
Most of the sportsbook do that and AFAIK last year Lebron came in to Lakers and the season has already started so it means that he didn't started with the team from the beginning.
It's a big name that has been added to the roster so expect that there will be the same treatment just like what happened last year.
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July 15, 2019, 12:26:50 PM
Everyone seems to think that Lakers will be heavy favorites this season and even if you look at the sportsbooks you see that the second best odds behind clippers is Lakers. Do you guys really think that they would be that good? I mean I know they have Lebron and AD but they had Lebron last year too and didn't even make it to playoffs, so now we put AD on top of it so of course they will become better but second best team in the league type of good? Does getting AD make a team "not playoff worthy" to "second best team" all of a sudden?

AD played on Pelicans as well and they were not that good, so 2 players who are definitely good but couldn't make their teams that good getting together makes them second best team? I feel like they would be more like 4th best team on western conference let alone the whole league.
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July 15, 2019, 11:58:38 AM
There are a lot of talks about how Harden and Westbrook would work. I'm trying to figure is out as well and running some simulations in my head  Grin
Harden will probably do most of the dribbling and outside shooting while Westbrook will be cutting the lane and dunking more often. 
 

This would be an amazing attaching combination.
My question is: Who is going to play defense? They will be having plenty attaching opportunities but not at all defensive ones.
Defending is another’s players work ofcourse because Westbrook and Harden will do the scoring(though some defense also if in their front I guess)

The team has 5 players and they are only the two mentioned so don’t bother about the def because there will be someone assigned for that

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July 15, 2019, 11:45:13 AM
There are a lot of talks about how Harden and Westbrook would work. I'm trying to figure is out as well and running some simulations in my head  Grin
Harden will probably do most of the dribbling and outside shooting while Westbrook will be cutting the lane and dunking more often. 
 

This would be an amazing attaching combination.
My question is: Who is going to play defense? They will be having plenty attaching opportunities but not at all defensive ones.

Both of them doesn't have a good defence, specially Harden. They are under D'Antoni's system, and we all know that they don't 'priority' defence. The play is to run, which I think Russell can easily adopt. But then again, we still need to see how they are going to blend.
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July 15, 2019, 11:01:10 AM
There are a lot of talks about how Harden and Westbrook would work. I'm trying to figure is out as well and running some simulations in my head  Grin
I saw some highlights when they were both playing for the Thunders. They link up pretty well. I think we will see a lot of alley-oop between the two.

My question is: Who is going to play defense? They will be having plenty attaching opportunities but not at all defensive ones.
Rockets will have four players defending. Westbrook is pretty decent with defense while Harden will be there to receive the ball and dribble to their side of the court.
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July 15, 2019, 09:27:01 AM
There are a lot of talks about how Harden and Westbrook would work. I'm trying to figure is out as well and running some simulations in my head  Grin
Harden will probably do most of the dribbling and outside shooting while Westbrook will be cutting the lane and dunking more often. 
 

This would be an amazing attaching combination.
My question is: Who is going to play defense? They will be having plenty attaching opportunities but not at all defensive ones.
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July 15, 2019, 09:01:39 AM
Harden will probably do most of the dribbling and outside shooting while Westbrook will be cutting the lane and dunking more often. 
Yeah Harden works better with his outside the ring shots while Westbrook is strong under the ring.

In order for them to be effective together, Westbrook should be the one bringing the ball and Harden will just wait for the pass when the defense commits on Westbrook. He is so athletic so for sure he will be guarded properly and gives the outside shooters more opportunity which would make them a very dangerous team, that if they will really play based on the design play.
That still depends on the coach of their opponent by those times. They are more aware of this kind of situation so defense should be reliable and balance for both players.

Westbrook inside ring while outside for Harden, every team that they will match should clearly look at both places.
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