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July 16, 2019, 11:39:04 PM

I'll look more closely on the team that has a decent change to be in the Finals, actually Bucks was a good team but they are fully hype when they beat the Celtics convincingly, I also lose as I bet on them against the Raptors and I think they it's hard for them to beat a good team with only Giannis carrying the team, why? because he is so predictable, same team, so possibly same result.

No, I dont agree with that. They dont have that much experience in the Finals. Now, they have that. Giannis now have an idea of what he is missing. He cannot just penetrate the paint. They have their trainers and I am sure they are already making an upgrade.
Lebron is almost the same when he came in. Just penetrating the paint for most of the time but shoots quite well than Giannis now. There is a lot of room for improvements with the Greek Freak and he shows it with his threes.

It is not just about Giannis on that team. He had Middleton, Bledsoe and Lopez which had supported him quite well when he cannot make some points.
This year though is a must win for them and it may be against 76ers which is also doing great.

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July 16, 2019, 11:32:47 PM
Its too early to predict right now but one thing is for sure for me, if this duo will sync the whole season they can be a NBA Finals contender.

They are very close last season, but this season there's a lot of teams to beat in the West, they need to beat the Warriors, Clippers, and the Lakers if they want to be in the finals and if they can do that, I think it's almost guaranteed that they will have the NBA championship.
Warriors doesn't have Kevin Durant and Iguodala anymore but I don't think that they became weaker just because of that.
They still have the shot to take back their glory for this season but what's interesting now, everyone seems to increase their strength through trades and adding more superstars.
But they still have the original splash brothers, Warriors with steve kerr coaching is a very good team, probably still a team to beat.
I just hope this time they will be fully healthy and the new addition which is D'Angelo Russell would grow in the Warriors team.
They are an experience team with young players, I can't doubt their potential.
That's their edge, they have the experience with many finals game and I don't think that they became dry now with the transfers that were against them.
Yes, they still have Coach Kerr and other notable players which built up the original Warriors team. Still a team to watch for but the feeling would be different now because we used to watch the team with KD.
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July 16, 2019, 11:22:12 PM
Its too early to predict right now but one thing is for sure for me, if this duo will sync the whole season they can be a NBA Finals contender.

They are very close last season, but this season there's a lot of teams to beat in the West, they need to beat the Warriors, Clippers, and the Lakers if they want to be in the finals and if they can do that, I think it's almost guaranteed that they will have the NBA championship.
Warriors doesn't have Kevin Durant and Iguodala anymore but I don't think that they became weaker just because of that.
They still have the shot to take back their glory for this season but what's interesting now, everyone seems to increase their strength through trades and adding more superstars.
But they still have the original splash brothers, Warriors with steve kerr coaching is a very good team, probably still a team to beat.
I just hope this time they will be fully healthy and the new addition which is D'Angelo Russell would grow in the Warriors team.
They are an experience team with young players, I can't doubt their potential.
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July 16, 2019, 11:10:27 PM
Its too early to predict right now but one thing is for sure for me, if this duo will sync the whole season they can be a NBA Finals contender.

They are very close last season, but this season there's a lot of teams to beat in the West, they need to beat the Warriors, Clippers, and the Lakers if they want to be in the finals and if they can do that, I think it's almost guaranteed that they will have the NBA championship.
Warriors doesn't have Kevin Durant and Iguodala anymore but I don't think that they became weaker just because of that.
They still have the shot to take back their glory for this season but what's interesting now, everyone seems to increase their strength through trades and adding more superstars.
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July 16, 2019, 10:53:50 PM
Its too early to predict right now but one thing is for sure for me, if this duo will sync the whole season they can be a NBA Finals contender.

They are very close last season, but this season there's a lot of teams to beat in the West, they need to beat the Warriors, Clippers, and the Lakers if they want to be in the finals and if they can do that, I think it's almost guaranteed that they will have the NBA championship.
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July 16, 2019, 09:48:37 PM
It's still early I guess for those bad speculations, I just want to see this tandem click.

Hopefully because it's both MVP playing together and this team has been in the WCF once, so in order to see some improvement, they need to be in the Finals.
I think it's still possible, but let's see... I still have to remain optimistic for their chance, seeing new team in the NBA Finals would be more fun.
Yeah we must be optimistic because even ho great these guys are still they will playing together for the first time so the chance of not getting alone is there so maybe it’s too early to predict but for me there’s a lot of problem will come along the way until they get their good partnership in this team together
I'm optimistic with their tandem but as other teams experienced at the start of the season, I think they will face some challenges and adjustments to be a better team. Its too early to predict right now but one thing is for sure for me, if this duo will sync the whole season they can be a NBA Finals contender.
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July 16, 2019, 09:37:16 PM
Are there any benefits for those team who didn't really shuffle their line ups? Like, there are no changes in their line up from the previous season.
For what my point of view is, since they don't have new teammates, their play will still remain as is since they are the same line up for their previous games.
Opposite that is when a particular team has really shuffled their line ups, like trade here, trade there, their playstyle will likely make some different, right?
- Chemistry - trusting the process with the same lineup -
Yeah, that is also one of running on my mind. That's why I'm rooting for this season on Milwaukee Bucks, especially the MVP is here with their solid lineup. It's just sad on what happened on the finals last season, chocked maybe? Well, even Golden State Warriors suffered from the Toronto Raptors.

Keeping the chemistry for a particular team will really help them, the defense and offense of Milwaukee Bucks are really incredible, there more room to grow on Milwaukee Bucks.
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July 16, 2019, 07:29:26 PM
It's still early I guess for those bad speculations, I just want to see this tandem click.

Hopefully because it's both MVP playing together and this team has been in the WCF once, so in order to see some improvement, they need to be in the Finals.
I think it's still possible, but let's see... I still have to remain optimistic for their chance, seeing new team in the NBA Finals would be more fun.
Yeah we must be optimistic because even ho great these guys are still they will playing together for the first time so the chance of not getting alone is there so maybe it’s too early to predict but for me there’s a lot of problem will come along the way until they get their good partnership in this team together
I don't want to expect big, I didn't say that but if they will manage to reach the finals it's not just improvement that came to them. But the tandem and the chemistry for the team did really clicked. I'm now seeing those streamers telling their opinions about the roster for Rockets and all they say that this is the new Lakers. Seems like everyone is expecting big with this tandem but there's more to go for the league and more interesting trades are happening.
Yup, the Bucks didn't change anything, I mean why fix it if it is not broken? I think that's the management's philosophy and it was very clear that they are going to go and try their best again and reach the finals in the East. And since Kawhi is already out of the East, Bucks will be the team to beat in the EC. They don't care much about the trade, they could be concern how to be consistent and improved their chances by keeping the core line up.
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July 16, 2019, 04:50:52 PM
Are there any benefits for those team who didn't really shuffle their line ups? Like, there are no changes in their line up from the previous season.
For what my point of view is, since they don't have new teammates, their play will still remain as is since they are the same line up for their previous games.
Opposite that is when a particular team has really shuffled their line ups, like trade here, trade there, their playstyle will likely make some different, right?

There is always a team who aren't participating in a big market during free agency for several reasons - but they do trade players:

- Reserving a space cap for a possible targeting a big fish soon that will hit the free agency
- Changed of a plan because of A and B got here and there
- Not enhancing nor improving the lineup for better position for NBA draft pick
- Chemistry - trusting the process with the same lineup -

But you know some of these teams actually shuffling their players at all especially when modifying the bench. There are lots of players in the league and why we only hear a few trades and just involving the big names? At most of the cases, minor trades especially involving an "infamous" players don't get much media attention and publicity so some people ended up thinking that other teams are not participating in trades.



I think we can use the GSW team here as a good example. They have not really changed their core team that much prior to winning their first championship and before the addition of Durant.

Back when Steph Curry is the only part of their current solid core team now, there are lots of changes in Golden State Warriors main lineup or should I say the entire lineup as part of the long rebuilding process. They struggle year by year so they do several trades and somehow able to pick a good choice in NBA draft. They drafted Thompson, Green and considered not trading them for some reasons but other players of their main lineup were traded along the way until they form a championship contender lineup.

So generally, the time they are not truly changed their entire core player is "after" they won a championship and not prior. Kevin Durant is the only addition to their core lineup from there.
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July 16, 2019, 03:45:48 PM
It's still early I guess for those bad speculations, I just want to see this tandem click.

Hopefully because it's both MVP playing together and this team has been in the WCF once, so in order to see some improvement, they need to be in the Finals.
I think it's still possible, but let's see... I still have to remain optimistic for their chance, seeing new team in the NBA Finals would be more fun.
Yeah we must be optimistic because even ho great these guys are still they will playing together for the first time so the chance of not getting alone is there so maybe it’s too early to predict but for me there’s a lot of problem will come along the way until they get their good partnership in this team together
I don't want to expect big, I didn't say that but if they will manage to reach the finals it's not just improvement that came to them. But the tandem and the chemistry for the team did really clicked. I'm now seeing those streamers telling their opinions about the roster for Rockets and all they say that this is the new Lakers. Seems like everyone is expecting big with this tandem but there's more to go for the league and more interesting trades are happening.
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July 16, 2019, 03:11:05 PM
It's still early I guess for those bad speculations, I just want to see this tandem click.

Hopefully because it's both MVP playing together and this team has been in the WCF once, so in order to see some improvement, they need to be in the Finals.
I think it's still possible, but let's see... I still have to remain optimistic for their chance, seeing new team in the NBA Finals would be more fun.
Yeah we must be optimistic because even ho great these guys are still they will playing together for the first time so the chance of not getting alone is there so maybe it’s too early to predict but for me there’s a lot of problem will come along the way until they get their good partnership in this team together
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July 16, 2019, 01:10:24 PM
Are there any benefits for those team who didn't really shuffle their line ups? Like, there are no changes in their line up from the previous season.
For what my point of view is, since they don't have new teammates, their play will still remain as is since they are the same line up for their previous games. Opposite that is when a particular team has really shuffled their line ups, like trade here, trade there, their playstyle will likely make some different, right?
I think we can use the GSW team here as a good example. They have not really changed their core team that much prior to winning their first championship and before the addition of Durant. We can still see them run the same plays but opposing teams were still having difficulty stopping them.
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July 16, 2019, 12:59:44 PM
The trust with Gianis even if he didnt perform well on the Finals is still intact. Brogdon's loss though is a huge one. He just made it from his injury and traded now to Indiana. Looks like they are just going to use him while Oladipo is injured.

Giannis still needs to improve a lot. He has become predictable and other teams already know how to exploit his weakness. It's that or the team compliments him with good outside shooters so he can freely exploit the inside when defense spreads out.

Are there any benefits for those team who didn't really shuffle their line ups? Like, there are no changes in their line up from the previous season.

Maybe the benefit is more on teamwork since they know each other well. But I believe even good teams need a little tweak in the lineup. If they did not win a championship, then it means that they are not the best team that can be. They can keep the core but the role players can be switched to improve the performance of a team.

Giannis is a strong athlete.
He indeed needs improvement in his game play and tactics and he will be completed then. After that he will deserve the title of the best player in the world.
Best player in the world? Not for now but someday this guy would have that slot.He's still young and there's still lots of space to improve.

Other teams or opponents might able to see his weakness but doesnt mean that he would completely be isolated.There would always be an upgrade on anyones play. Cheesy
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July 16, 2019, 12:49:48 PM
The trust with Gianis even if he didnt perform well on the Finals is still intact. Brogdon's loss though is a huge one. He just made it from his injury and traded now to Indiana. Looks like they are just going to use him while Oladipo is injured.

Giannis still needs to improve a lot. He has become predictable and other teams already know how to exploit his weakness. It's that or the team compliments him with good outside shooters so he can freely exploit the inside when defense spreads out.

Are there any benefits for those team who didn't really shuffle their line ups? Like, there are no changes in their line up from the previous season.

Maybe the benefit is more on teamwork since they know each other well. But I believe even good teams need a little tweak in the lineup. If they did not win a championship, then it means that they are not the best team that can be. They can keep the core but the role players can be switched to improve the performance of a team.

Giannis is a strong athlete.
He indeed needs improvement in his game play and tactics and he will be completed then. After that he will deserve the title of the best player in the world.
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July 16, 2019, 12:42:33 PM
I think it is more than just notifying each other, I think it is about trading the guys people actually know in the team and like, you can't trade for a guy that everyone hates. Harden was the only one training with Westbrook on the all star break, they played at the same AAU when they were kids, and they played in the same team as non-stars of a team before as well (they were still 2-3 of that team but Durant was the star).

When they heard about the trade coach mike came to harden and wanted to talk about his vision of how they would both play and Harden said to him "I have known him for 20 years, I know how he plays" , they are literally super excited about playing with each other again, it is of course sad that OKC lost 2 MVP guys to Rockets but at least they are back together and will have a good shot at winning it all.
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July 16, 2019, 10:58:18 AM
The trust with Gianis even if he didnt perform well on the Finals is still intact. Brogdon's loss though is a huge one. He just made it from his injury and traded now to Indiana. Looks like they are just going to use him while Oladipo is injured.

Giannis still needs to improve a lot. He has become predictable and other teams already know how to exploit his weakness. It's that or the team compliments him with good outside shooters so he can freely exploit the inside when defense spreads out.

Are there any benefits for those team who didn't really shuffle their line ups? Like, there are no changes in their line up from the previous season.

Maybe the benefit is more on teamwork since they know each other well. But I believe even good teams need a little tweak in the lineup. If they did not win a championship, then it means that they are not the best team that can be. They can keep the core but the role players can be switched to improve the performance of a team.
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July 16, 2019, 09:38:22 AM
They just got their playoff experience already so now they are looking at how the team will go for next season with no disruptions for the core team.
Speaking of this.
Want to ask about your opinion everybody..

Are there any benefits for those team who didn't really shuffle their line ups? Like, there are no changes in their line up from the previous season.
For what my point of view is, since they don't have new teammates, their play will still remain as is since they are the same line up for their previous games.
Opposite that is when a particular team has really shuffled their line ups, like trade here, trade there, their playstyle will likely make some different, right?

Preserving the chemistry. That is one hell of a benefit for the entire team.
That means there is no drama happening in their roster unlike Houston, OKC and a lot more. Hell even GSW did once with KD and Green.

The trust with Gianis even if he didnt perform well on the Finals is still intact. Brogdon's loss though is a huge one. He just made it from his injury and traded now to Indiana. Looks like they are just going to use him while Oladipo is injured.

I'll look more closely on the team that has a decent change to be in the Finals, actually Bucks was a good team but they are fully hype when they beat the Celtics convincingly, I also lose as I bet on them against the Raptors and I think they it's hard for them to beat a good team with only Giannis carrying the team, why? because he is so predictable, same team, so possibly same result.
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July 16, 2019, 09:17:38 AM
They just got their playoff experience already so now they are looking at how the team will go for next season with no disruptions for the core team.
Speaking of this.
Want to ask about your opinion everybody..

Are there any benefits for those team who didn't really shuffle their line ups? Like, there are no changes in their line up from the previous season.
For what my point of view is, since they don't have new teammates, their play will still remain as is since they are the same line up for their previous games.
Opposite that is when a particular team has really shuffled their line ups, like trade here, trade there, their playstyle will likely make some different, right?

Preserving the chemistry. That is one hell of a benefit for the entire team.
That means there is no drama happening in their roster unlike Houston, OKC and a lot more. Hell even GSW did once with KD and Green.

The trust with Gianis even if he didnt perform well on the Finals is still intact. Brogdon's loss though is a huge one. He just made it from his injury and traded now to Indiana. Looks like they are just going to use him while Oladipo is injured.
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July 16, 2019, 09:14:09 AM
They just got their playoff experience already so now they are looking at how the team will go for next season with no disruptions for the core team.
Speaking of this.
Want to ask about your opinion everybody..

Are there any benefits for those team who didn't really shuffle their line ups? Like, there are no changes in their line up from the previous season.
For what my point of view is, since they don't have new teammates, their play will still remain as is since they are the same line up for their previous games.
Opposite that is when a particular team has really shuffled their line ups, like trade here, trade there, their playstyle will likely make some different, right?

I guess if the core member remains intact from the previous seasons and just adding up to bulk up the team specially getting role players for a 1 year contract and the team remains healthy throughout the gruelling 82 games, most likely they will have a better chances.

Team building up from previous seasons its different though, acquiring new players to work with a new play style and system takes time, in my opinion.
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July 16, 2019, 08:27:01 AM
It's still early I guess for those bad speculations, I just want to see this tandem click.

Hopefully because it's both MVP playing together and this team has been in the WCF once, so in order to see some improvement, they need to be in the Finals.
I think it's still possible, but let's see... I still have to remain optimistic for their chance, seeing new team in the NBA Finals would be more fun.
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