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October 04, 2019, 10:57:34 PM
In the first place, in today's NBA, Centers aren't that much of a used or main focus of a team's offense even in defense. Power Forward's position is now considered as a Center so I don't see any reason why Porzinigis should shift to the Center position. He can do some Center plays while maintaining his key role. Last season, Dwight Powell as a PF plays center for the Mavs and he did well. He can do again the job working on a center position alongside their newly acquired giant Boban Marjanović.
I agree with this. I see Warriors in the past years when they acquire KD and they usually put KD in the paint alongside with Green and Thompson or Igoudala. In my opinion, Porzingis must stay as a PF as the Mavericks have other players for the Center position like Marjanovic and Powell can be a center too. Its better if Porzingis will stay in the PF position because he can also shoot in the perimeter and in the 3 point line too.

On the other games, Brooklyn Nets won against the Sesi Franca 137-89
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October 04, 2019, 10:26:16 PM
Hey, have you seen James Harden's new move? The one foot step back three? You should definitely watch this one. This would be a major upgrade for him.

Can we even call it a step back? He is basically running on the sidelines and shooting with one leg. It's an unreliable shot and one that should only be taken early in the game or when they are already leading by a huge margin. He can't use that on crucial moments during a game.

I made a comparison in my earlier comment.
Dirk = One-legged fadeaway shot
Harden = One-legged running 3-point shot 




Hot news from Lakers today. I didn't expected that they will sign this legend's son. Although with some conditions applied.
Lakers sign David Stockton, son of Hall of Fame point guard John Stockton
His story could be like Ingram's.
Lakers may actually need a guy like him. Someone who can slash inside and dish out to AD & Lebron or kick it out to an open shooter.
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October 04, 2019, 08:02:16 PM
Hot news from Lakers today. I didn't expected that they will sign this legend's son. Although with some conditions applied.
Lakers sign David Stockton, son of Hall of Fame point guard John Stockton

I see his https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/s/stockda01.html.. is not so impressive, he only average 3.3 points but who knows if they see something in this kid to be a good contributor, but let us not expect that he will play longer minutes as for sure their starters will usually play extended minutes due to their weak 2nd unit.

Probably this kid's gonna play only if the Lakers would have a huge blow out against the opposing team. Ive seen few of his game with the Sacramento Kings and he's like a pass-first point guard. Im not sure but I think he needs to have a good shooting percentage, because his height is really small, and he dont take much jumper in a game the reason why he averaged a low ppg.
I was also thinking, maybe he's a bit pressured due to the fact that his father is an NBA legend.
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October 04, 2019, 05:01:06 PM
Hot news from Lakers today. I didn't expected that they will sign this legend's son. Although with some conditions applied.
Lakers sign David Stockton, son of Hall of Fame point guard John Stockton

I see his https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/s/stockda01.html.. is not so impressive, he only average 3.3 points but who knows if they see something in this kid to be a good contributor, but let us not expect that he will play longer minutes as for sure their starters will usually play extended minutes due to their weak 2nd unit.
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October 04, 2019, 04:47:00 PM
Hot news from Lakers today. I didn't expected that they will sign this legend's son. Although with some conditions applied.
Lakers sign David Stockton, son of Hall of Fame point guard John Stockton

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October 04, 2019, 04:45:17 PM
He can do again the job working on a center position alongside their newly acquired giant Boban Marjanović.
Though he is not that fast but his length should give them advantage in the paint, Luka, Porzingis and Boban playing together, they are a tall but they aren't that fast, I'm also afraid that this will become their vulnerability and teams like the Warriors who's good in fast face game might take advantage to them.

In general, there is no need to become a fast phase team too if it's really lacking on a team. It's already a no surprise that Warriors are playing like that so other teams as well knows that advantage by the Warriors.

Instead of Maverick will force to become a fast phase team too, allow their players to work on their comfort zone and turned it into an advantage. Doncic, Barea, Seth Curry can do the quick phase in terms of offense and defense. It's not about matching the Warriors ability totally but if they were able to stop the fast phase game by the Warriors, they have a chance to win.

For reference, Mavs and Warriors are 1-1 head to head last season. (119-114 Warriors, 126-91 Mavericks). On that 2 games, Warriors are in their complete core lineup. It just means that what you saw as Mavericks' vulnerability does have a solution and they already work for that. Let's just wait for their progress once the season starts.
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October 04, 2019, 04:28:39 PM
He can do again the job working on a center position alongside their newly acquired giant Boban Marjanović.

If they will give good minutes to Boban Marjanović, then I think he will become more effective.

Though he is not that fast but his length should give them advantage in the paint, Luka, Porzingis and Boban playing together, they are a tall but they aren't that fast, I'm also afraid that this will become their vulnerability and teams like the Warriors who's good in fast face game might take advantage to them.
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October 04, 2019, 04:21:15 PM

Coming from an injury and a year-long break, not a good idea to just put Kristap Porzingis on a position he is not used to.

Let him work first on his comfort zone as a PF then began changing gears if it's not effective at all but for me, don't change gears. I like him to be on his usual although it will take time.

In the first place, in today's NBA, Centers aren't that much of a used or main focus of a team's offense even in defense. Power Forward's position is now considered as a Center so I don't see any reason why Porzinigis should shift to the Center position. He can do some Center plays while maintaining his key role. Last season, Dwight Powell as a PF plays center for the Mavs and he did well. He can do again the job working on a center position alongside their newly acquired giant Boban Marjanović.
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October 04, 2019, 04:19:24 PM
I don't agree that Kawhi doesn't bring too much hype. Just after the finals, everyone turned in for Raptors but after knowing that he's going to leave the team.
They hype was only after they won the NBA finals but when he first joined the Raptors there was no hype as he was coming from injury that time.
And if you noticed, he start with limited minutes only and he does not usually go with games outside Toronto, and its a wise decision since the Raptors does not struggle to be in the top 8 and in fact they also win a lot of games even without Leonard.
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October 04, 2019, 04:10:42 PM
Mavericks is still an underrated team and I expect them to improve this season despite of their untested line up.
I don't think that Mavs are being underrated.
They are, because their odds ot win as NBA champion is "100/1"..http://www.vegasinsider.com/nba/odds/futures/
It's a decent line for this line up, and people aren't seeing them now because of the hype of the newly upgraded teams like the Lakers, Clippers, and Rockets.
Base on that site there are other teams that are lower than them. But if that's the case, I'm still looking forward to watch their matches when the regular season starts.

LA Clippers is on hype due to Kawhi and PG. Well, a lot of supporters will follow their idols. This is another interesting team to watch and interesting if this two superstars will go along well.

How about the Rockets, Kawhi is not that kind of a hype player but when he won the championship, I mean this team Raptors, people think this guy is the next Michael Jordan as he can carry his team to win the championship without some star players playing along with him.

Well, Gasol and Lowry are stars but now with the same level with Kawhi and the top 10 players in the NBA now.
I don't agree that Kawhi doesn't bring too much hype. Just after the finals, everyone turned in for Raptors but after knowing that he's going to leave the team.

Everyone followed wherever he go. Rockets is a strong team now but it's not equal if the hype is just the matter.
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October 04, 2019, 03:21:43 PM
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The pre-season looking good for the Rockets.
It's just another practice. Real action is coming in a few days.


What do we think about this rumor?

NBA Rumors: Lakers Could Bring Back Jordan Clarkson Via Midseason Trade, ‘L.A. Sports Hub’ Suggests

I think he will be able to help the Lakers if the management will be able to get him back.
He is a good scorer and they can put Clarkson in the 2nd unit, this team will surely improve more.
Lakers don't need him. They need a consistent outside shooter and not someone who loves to dribble. They already have Kuzma for that position but things could quickly change come midseason.

I agree, Clarkson might not be needed.  What they need is a 3 and d guy.  Someone to guard the other teams best players and on offense can play without the ball and be a 3 point threat to spread the floor.  Those types of players are invaluable come playoff time.  Clarkson will demand the ball, that isnt needed for them
You are basing what you see in his previous games or his task in his current team now.
When he will be in the lakers with completely different squad, he might be change into a different player and that's based on the coaching staff design for him. If ever they will get him back, that means he has a big role to fill for the team, and Lebron knows him since they played together for one season.
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October 04, 2019, 02:56:33 PM
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The pre-season looking good for the Rockets.
It's just another practice. Real action is coming in a few days.


What do we think about this rumor?

NBA Rumors: Lakers Could Bring Back Jordan Clarkson Via Midseason Trade, ‘L.A. Sports Hub’ Suggests

I think he will be able to help the Lakers if the management will be able to get him back.
He is a good scorer and they can put Clarkson in the 2nd unit, this team will surely improve more.
Lakers don't need him. They need a consistent outside shooter and not someone who loves to dribble. They already have Kuzma for that position but things could quickly change come midseason.

I agree, Clarkson might not be needed.  What they need is a 3 and d guy.  Someone to guard the other teams best players and on offense can play without the ball and be a 3 point threat to spread the floor.  Those types of players are invaluable come playoff time.  Clarkson will demand the ball, that isnt needed for them
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October 04, 2019, 01:21:10 PM
What do we think about this rumor?

NBA Rumors: Lakers Could Bring Back Jordan Clarkson Via Midseason Trade, ‘L.A. Sports Hub’ Suggests

I think he will be able to help the Lakers if the management will be able to get him back.
He is a good scorer and they can put Clarkson in the 2nd unit, this team will surely improve more.
Jordan Clarkson would be a great part of Lakers' second unit. But, the thing in here is, I guess LeBron does really want him as a teammate. Although his stats with him during the Cleaveland season was not good especially in the playoffs, at least LeBron knows the worth of him.

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The pre-season looking good for the Rockets.
It's just another practice. Real action is coming in a few days.
It's still a match but you can see their dominance. Hey, have you seen James Harden's new move? The one foot step back three? You should definitely watch this one. This would be a major upgrade for him.

Practically doubling his offense less defense, kidding.  Grin
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October 04, 2019, 01:01:11 PM
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The pre-season looking good for the Rockets.
It's just another practice. Real action is coming in a few days.


What do we think about this rumor?

NBA Rumors: Lakers Could Bring Back Jordan Clarkson Via Midseason Trade, ‘L.A. Sports Hub’ Suggests

I think he will be able to help the Lakers if the management will be able to get him back.
He is a good scorer and they can put Clarkson in the 2nd unit, this team will surely improve more.
Lakers don't need him. They need a consistent outside shooter and not someone who loves to dribble. They already have Kuzma for that position but things could quickly change come midseason.
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October 04, 2019, 12:34:05 PM
I think it is more about him moving to Center position than anything else. He may look like he got some more pounds on him and muscled up but in reality that is what required from porzingis if he wants to play the center position.

Now, if he stays at power forward which I doubt now that he is no longer that quick and agile and skinny than he would have to make up the difference with something else but if he moves to center position like we all expect him to, then he will have to fight for rebounds against players like Embiid, KAT, Drummond, Howard and many others that list goes on. Hence, putting on some muscles was a good idea but not enough, its not gonna suddenly make him a great beast, there are tons of other players who have that type of size and power, he just catch up to them to become a center.

But if I am the Dallas management I would still prefer him as the KD type of play.
Moving to center will most likely slow him down even if we take out the weight that he is going to receive by toning his body.
You are a center so will always be taking rebounds and blocking shots. With that it will be a slow phase game while waiting for him to post up for offense or whatever the play would be.

That is not how NBA is being played now. Lots of fastbreaks and a sudden 3 point shot with equipped players and also a fast paced game. Imagine Dallas against a Houston Rockets team.

I just dont understand it if they will put him on that position.

I dont think he is turning into a back to the basket guy.  He is still going to be a stretch player his outside game is amazing.  People forget how good he was on defense too, this new weight will help him only get better inside.  The only thing he lacked was a power post move and this was probably done to be able to get one.  Sad the Knicks lost him  Tongue
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October 04, 2019, 11:47:11 AM
They will be putting Porzingis in the Center position for two reasons; one is that he got injured and his lateral quickness will never be what it once was, some players do not return from harsh injuries like they used to be, look at Shaun Livingston dude was a super speedy tall dunking point guard yet he got a gruesome injury and he had to leave for a long time and when he came back he was a midrange shooter, same with Porzingis he still has his talents and that is good enough to be a star, he will be an all-star once again one day and he will help his team a lot but he will never be as quick laterally as he used to be which means center is better.

Second reason which is once again one of the most important ones, they don't have any centers as great as Porzingis, they can put a smaller player on power forward due to this "small ball" era but the center needs to be talented and Porzingis is super talented.
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October 04, 2019, 11:29:24 AM
Dirk = One-legged fadeaway shot
Harden = One-legged running 3-point shot 

The guy seems desperate to create a signature move of his own. I hope he gets it right for his egos sake lol.
The pre-season looking good for the Rockets.

I think he will be able to help the Lakers if the management will be able to get him back.
He is a good scorer and they can put Clarkson in the 2nd unit, this team will surely improve more.
That's a long time. I'm not sure if that's going to happen since Cavs needs him more than ever.
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October 04, 2019, 10:30:42 AM

Why would they put him in the center position when Porzingis was playing well with the NYK before.
I think we just have to wait what will happen and see how porzingis perform in this coming season, it's preseason already but its still different compared to the regular season, I want to see teams playing with a complete team and with their full effort.

The idea is because of what they did with Dirk back then.
They put him in the center position and he was eaten by monsters. Grin But I do think something better is being cooked in the Dallas roster.  Grin

What do we think about this rumor?

NBA Rumors: Lakers Could Bring Back Jordan Clarkson Via Midseason Trade, ‘L.A. Sports Hub’ Suggests

I think he will be able to help the Lakers if the management will be able to get him back.
He is a good scorer and they can put Clarkson in the 2nd unit, this team will surely improve more.

Yes 2nd unit. Put him in there and take charge of the big guys.
Maybe they could put some good show while their star players are resting.
I do agree if this happens. Jordan Clarkson had been improving his game.
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October 04, 2019, 09:13:36 AM
What do we think about this rumor?

NBA Rumors: Lakers Could Bring Back Jordan Clarkson Via Midseason Trade, ‘L.A. Sports Hub’ Suggests

I think he will be able to help the Lakers if the management will be able to get him back.
He is a good scorer and they can put Clarkson in the 2nd unit, this team will surely improve more.
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October 04, 2019, 05:04:36 AM

During the early years of Dirk, there was also an experiment when he played as a center but it doesn't work at all that's why he played back in a position where he can manage the ball, shoot or pass around, I think a forward position fit this kind of player, like Dirk which his idol.

Yes, they cannot make the same mistake all over again or it will be a mess.
Although Dirk showcased his shooting range when he won his 1st championship, it took a lot of time before they could even reach it.

I am against making Porzingis as a center. It is the new era of basketball and they have a different way of plays by now.
Going against the flow might just make them missed several playoffs.
Oh, and it is going to be difficult making him change his style over and over again.


Why would they put him in the center position when Porzingis was playing well with the NYK before.
I think we just have to wait what will happen and see how porzingis perform in this coming season, it's preseason already but its still different compared to the regular season, I want to see teams playing with a complete team and with their full effort.
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