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Quote from: Japinat on October 03, 2019, 05:37:52 PM

Mavericks is still an underrated team and I expect them to improve this season despite of their untested line up.

I don't think that Mavs are being underrated.

They are, because their odds ot win as NBA champion is "100/1"..http://www.vegasinsider.com/nba/odds/futures/
It's a decent line for this line up, and people aren't seeing them now because of the hype of the newly upgraded teams like the Lakers, Clippers, and Rockets.

Exactly! Things might be changed when the season starts, specially when a lot of people are expecting something big from Doncic and Porzingis. People even think that they're the future of the Mavs just like Nowitzki and Nash back in the days. Nevertheless, these young guns got the talent. Who knows in the middle of the season they might not be considered as underrated.

Again, the results will be the changing factors regarding to how this team will be treated, they are seems to be underrated as Porzingis conditions still in question, if he can play healthy for the rest of the season, it can influence the future of the franchise. He have been absence for a while and he's coming back will be interesting if how far he can manage to help the entire team to compete and win.

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Quote from: Finestream on October 03, 2019, 04:21:19 PM

During the early years of Dirk, there was also an experiment when he played as a center but it doesn't work at all that's why he played back in a position where he can manage the ball, shoot or pass around, I think a forward position fit this kind of player, like Dirk which his idol.

Yes, they cannot make the same mistake all over again or it will be a mess.
Although Dirk showcased his shooting range when he won his 1st championship, it took a lot of time before they could even reach it.

I am against making Porzingis as a center. It is the new era of basketball and they have a different way of plays by now.
Going against the flow might just make them missed several playoffs.
Oh, and it is going to be difficult making him change his style over and over again.

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Quote from: Kasabus on October 03, 2019, 06:07:55 PM

Quote from: boyptc on October 03, 2019, 05:50:23 PM

Quote from: Japinat on October 03, 2019, 05:37:52 PM

Mavericks is still an underrated team and I expect them to improve this season despite of their untested line up.

I don't think that Mavs are being underrated.

They are, because their odds ot win as NBA champion is "100/1"..http://www.vegasinsider.com/nba/odds/futures/
It's a decent line for this line up, and people aren't seeing them now because of the hype of the newly upgraded teams like the Lakers, Clippers, and Rockets.

Even though Doncic is carrying the team right now even when he is with Porzingis, they are still underdogs. Well, at least right now that we see that Porzingis can play now, I hope their rankings get high this time. He is after all the unicorn. The European iconic duo could be lethal if they found their synergy together.

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Quote from: Kasabus on October 03, 2019, 06:07:55 PM

Quote from: boyptc on October 03, 2019, 05:50:23 PM

Quote from: Japinat on October 03, 2019, 05:37:52 PM

Mavericks is still an underrated team and I expect them to improve this season despite of their untested line up.

I don't think that Mavs are being underrated.

They are, because their odds ot win as NBA champion is "100/1"..http://www.vegasinsider.com/nba/odds/futures/
It's a decent line for this line up, and people aren't seeing them now because of the hype of the newly upgraded teams like the Lakers, Clippers, and Rockets.

Exactly! Things might be changed when the season starts, specially when a lot of people are expecting something big from Doncic and Porzingis. People even think that they're the future of the Mavs just like Nowitzki and Nash back in the days. Nevertheless, these young guns got the talent. Who knows in the middle of the season they might not be considered as underrated.

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Quote from: boyptc on October 03, 2019, 06:39:31 PM

Quote from: Kasabus on October 03, 2019, 06:07:55 PM

Quote from: boyptc on October 03, 2019, 05:50:23 PM

Quote from: Japinat on October 03, 2019, 05:37:52 PM

Mavericks is still an underrated team and I expect them to improve this season despite of their untested line up.

I don't think that Mavs are being underrated.

They are, because their odds ot win as NBA champion is "100/1"..http://www.vegasinsider.com/nba/odds/futures/
It's a decent line for this line up, and people aren't seeing them now because of the hype of the newly upgraded teams like the Lakers, Clippers, and Rockets.

Base on that site there are other teams that are lower than them. But if that's the case, I'm still looking forward to watch their matches when the regular season starts.

LA Clippers is on hype due to Kawhi and PG. Well, a lot of supporters will follow their idols. This is another interesting team to watch and interesting if this two superstars will go along well.

How about the Rockets, Kawhi is not that kind of a hype player but when he won the championship, I mean this team Raptors, people think this guy is the next Michael Jordan as he can carry his team to win the championship without some star players playing along with him.

Well, Gasol and Lowry are stars but now with the same level with Kawhi and the top 10 players in the NBA now.

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Quote from: Kasabus on October 03, 2019, 06:07:55 PM

Quote from: boyptc on October 03, 2019, 05:50:23 PM

Quote from: Japinat on October 03, 2019, 05:37:52 PM

Mavericks is still an underrated team and I expect them to improve this season despite of their untested line up.

I don't think that Mavs are being underrated.

They are, because their odds ot win as NBA champion is "100/1"..http://www.vegasinsider.com/nba/odds/futures/
It's a decent line for this line up, and people aren't seeing them now because of the hype of the newly upgraded teams like the Lakers, Clippers, and Rockets.

Base on that site there are other teams that are lower than them. But if that's the case, I'm still looking forward to watch their matches when the regular season starts.

LA Clippers is on hype due to Kawhi and PG. Well, a lot of supporters will follow their idols. This is another interesting team to watch and interesting if this two superstars will go along well.

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Quote from: boyptc on October 03, 2019, 05:50:23 PM

Quote from: Japinat on October 03, 2019, 05:37:52 PM

Mavericks is still an underrated team and I expect them to improve this season despite of their untested line up.

I don't think that Mavs are being underrated.

They are, because their odds ot win as NBA champion is "100/1"..http://www.vegasinsider.com/nba/odds/futures/
It's a decent line for this line up, and people aren't seeing them now because of the hype of the newly upgraded teams like the Lakers, Clippers, and Rockets.

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Quote from: harizen on October 02, 2019, 04:35:27 PM

Mavs fan out there, did you watch the recent interview with Kristap Porzingis?

Look at his built. I've noticed that his body becomes more bulk up. Damn, what did he do while out on NBA (aside from involving into a brawl lol)? Like he isn't came from an injury.

Maybe others will see it as a disadvantage since he might become slow but for me, he will be like an athletic version of Dirk Nowitzki.

Of course he should build up muscles to not easily get overpowered by his match ups. It's not as if he will get slower but it's a must to bulky up a bit for this physical game. I mean slim players always gets overpowered by muscular players.

Because it’s depend on their position in game if what’s needed,if you’re a shooter mostly there’s no need to have a bulk body because you don’t intend physically engaging by which outside shooting or perimeter is your place,while bulky bodies n needs under the ring that engaged mostly in physical contact.but in KRIZTAP I think he will be given another task by the coach that’s why he improved he’s muscles and gain weight

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Quote from: Finestream on October 03, 2019, 04:21:19 PM

During the early years of Dirk, there was also an experiment when he played as a center but it doesn't work at all that's why he played back in a position where he can manage the ball, shoot or pass around, I think a forward position fit this kind of player, like Dirk which his idol.

I think I was still younger during those days but he's truly more effective outside the ring.

Quote from: Japinat on October 03, 2019, 05:37:52 PM

Mavericks is still an underrated team and I expect them to improve this season despite of their untested line up.

I don't think that Mavs are being underrated.

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Quote from: Finestream on October 03, 2019, 04:21:19 PM

During the early years of Dirk, there was also an experiment when he played as a center but it doesn't work at all that's why he played back in a position where he can manage the ball, shoot or pass around, I think a forward position fit this kind of player, like Dirk which his idol.

That's right but the current coach of the Mavericks was the same coach that help Dirk to improve so he can do the same with Porzi and Luka and these who will become a good dou in the court. Mavericks is still an underrated team and I expect them to improve this season despite of their untested line up.

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I think it is more about him moving to Center position than anything else. He may look like he got some more pounds on him and muscled up but in reality that is what required from porzingis if he wants to play the center position.

Now, if he stays at power forward which I doubt now that he is no longer that quick and agile and skinny than he would have to make up the difference with something else but if he moves to center position like we all expect him to, then he will have to fight for rebounds against players like Embiid, KAT, Drummond, Howard and many others that list goes on. Hence, putting on some muscles was a good idea but not enough, its not gonna suddenly make him a great beast, there are tons of other players who have that type of size and power, he just catch up to them to become a center.

But if I am the Dallas management I would still prefer him as the KD type of play.
Moving to center will most likely slow him down even if we take out the weight that he is going to receive by toning his body.
You are a center so will always be taking rebounds and blocking shots. With that it will be a slow phase game while waiting for him to post up for offense or whatever the play would be.

That is not how NBA is being played now. Lots of fastbreaks and a sudden 3 point shot with equipped players and also a fast paced game. Imagine Dallas against a Houston Rockets team.

I just dont understand it if they will put him on that position.

During the early years of Dirk, there was also an experiment when he played as a center but it doesn't work at all that's why he played back in a position where he can manage the ball, shoot or pass around, I think a forward position fit this kind of player, like Dirk which his idol.

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Quote from: redsun114 on October 03, 2019, 10:24:19 AM

I think it is more about him moving to Center position than anything else. He may look like he got some more pounds on him and muscled up but in reality that is what required from porzingis if he wants to play the center position.

Now, if he stays at power forward which I doubt now that he is no longer that quick and agile and skinny than he would have to make up the difference with something else but if he moves to center position like we all expect him to, then he will have to fight for rebounds against players like Embiid, KAT, Drummond, Howard and many others that list goes on. Hence, putting on some muscles was a good idea but not enough, its not gonna suddenly make him a great beast, there are tons of other players who have that type of size and power, he just catch up to them to become a center.

But if I am the Dallas management I would still prefer him as the KD type of play.
Moving to center will most likely slow him down even if we take out the weight that he is going to receive by toning his body.
You are a center so will always be taking rebounds and blocking shots. With that it will be a slow phase game while waiting for him to post up for offense or whatever the play would be.

That is not how NBA is being played now. Lots of fastbreaks and a sudden 3 point shot with equipped players and also a fast paced game. Imagine Dallas against a Houston Rockets team.

I just dont understand it if they will put him on that position.

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It's going to improve his defense too. Dude was already decent in the paint with a semi fragile body. His effort on defense is underrated, wish he wanted to stay with the knicks I liked the kids game. Wish him well on the mavs and hope he fully recovers from his knee injury, 7 footers and massive knee injuries dont always fair too well.

Gaining weights to be more ready with inside game type basketball, both defense and offense this guy needs to show something after being away for quite some years, this new look is interesting if what kind of adjustment he workout and how the Mavs will use him up.
Good luck to him and looking forward that he will stay healthy this season and help the entire franchise to stay competitive.

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I think it is more about him moving to Center position than anything else. He may look like he got some more pounds on him and muscled up but in reality that is what required from porzingis if he wants to play the center position.

Now, if he stays at power forward which I doubt now that he is no longer that quick and agile and skinny than he would have to make up the difference with something else but if he moves to center position like we all expect him to, then he will have to fight for rebounds against players like Embiid, KAT, Drummond, Howard and many others that list goes on. Hence, putting on some muscles was a good idea but not enough, its not gonna suddenly make him a great beast, there are tons of other players who have that type of size and power, he just catch up to them to become a center.

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Quote from: Jating on October 03, 2019, 07:06:06 AM

Quote from: harizen on October 02, 2019, 04:35:27 PM

Mavs fan out there, did you watch the recent interview with Kristap Porzingis?

Look at his built. I've noticed that his body becomes more bulk up. Damn, what did he do while out on NBA (aside from involving into a brawl lol)? Like he isn't came from an injury.

Maybe others will see it as a disadvantage since he might become slow but for me, he will be like an athletic version of Dirk Nowitzki.

Perhaps he is getting his body in shape this season specially if he is going more on the paint rather than shooting outside. So bulking up is the logical choice here.

Definitely he can be slower, but I don't think that it will affect his shooting hands though. He could literally practicing thousands of shots per day with his new frame and see how it goes for him.

It's going to improve his defense too. Dude was already decent in the paint with a semi fragile body. His effort on defense is underrated, wish he wanted to stay with the knicks I liked the kids game. Wish him well on the mavs and hope he fully recovers from his knee injury, 7 footers and massive knee injuries dont always fair too well.

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Quote from: harizen on October 02, 2019, 04:35:27 PM

Mavs fan out there, did you watch the recent interview with Kristap Porzingis?

Look at his built. I've noticed that his body becomes more bulk up. Damn, what did he do while out on NBA (aside from involving into a brawl lol)? Like he isn't came from an injury.

Maybe others will see it as a disadvantage since he might become slow but for me, he will be like an athletic version of Dirk Nowitzki.

Perhaps he is getting his body in shape this season specially if he is going more on the paint rather than shooting outside. So bulking up is the logical choice here.

Definitely he can be slower, but I don't think that it will affect his shooting hands though. He could literally practicing thousands of shots per day with his new frame and see how it goes for him.

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Quote from: harizen on October 02, 2019, 04:35:27 PM

Mavs fan out there, did you watch the recent interview with Kristap Porzingis?

Look at his built. I've noticed that his body becomes more bulk up. Damn, what did he do while out on NBA (aside from involving into a brawl lol)? Like he isn't came from an injury.

Maybe others will see it as a disadvantage since he might become slow but for me, he will be like an athletic version of Dirk Nowitzki.

I am more worried about his shooting percentage rather than him getting slower.
When you are changing your body figure you may also destroy the way you shoot or how strong and mild a shot should be.
It needs to be trained while he is gaining more weight.

KD is one example of it. He doesnt go way far of making his body bulky to avoid losing his assassin shots.

But with the right method it might work.
Although it is true that gaining more muscle makes you gain more scale weight than fats.

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Quote from: harizen on October 02, 2019, 04:35:27 PM

Mavs fan out there, did you watch the recent interview with Kristap Porzingis?

Look at his built. I've noticed that his body becomes more bulk up. Damn, what did he do while out on NBA (aside from involving into a brawl lol)? Like he isn't came from an injury.

Maybe others will see it as a disadvantage since he might become slow but for me, he will be like an athletic version of Dirk Nowitzki.

Dude he better be. He should be making his move in building his body or else he's just gonna end up just like he ended up last seasons in his career. He's already great NBA player. The only reason why teams seeing negativity from him is because of his injury records.

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Well, probably he made enough time in the gym toning up his muscles. And I dont see any disadvantage from his body transformation right now as this kid has talent, he can shoot, can do both high post and low post.

Indeed, he is absolutely fittter than before and I don't think wishing Porzingris remain to his slim body is still a good idea because the others are now also evolving. He will fall behind, his body most probably getting crushed by bumping into other's brick wall-body if he didn't change at all Grin

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Other than that, NBA players nowadays didnt think getting their body buffed will make them become slow. Take Giannis as an example, look how he became even a bigger monster after his body transformation.
Every transformation made by an NBA player always has a corresponding reason, depends on the player how he adjust to his new weight. For me, Its better for the big men to be buffed to have a wider shoulders, which is a very big advantage inside the paint.

Quote from: Oasisman on October 02, 2019, 11:51:07 PM

Whats interesting about the Mavs is, how will Porzingis and Doncic execute on the offensive end.
Nevertheless, Mavs are still a playoffs contender.

The pressure is on them because I see them right now as the hope and future of Mavs. These two young men should perform great this upcoming season to prove their worth.
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True, but I dont expect them to compete in NBA finals, as the Western conference become tougher. I'll give them, probably 3 years if they're still intact then they will have a shot in the finals.

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