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Quote from: Baofeng on March 31, 2019, 12:43:16 AM

Yes, I know that this is not new, actually they have caught someone already and I'm sure everyone here knows about him. But my point is let the players play their game and not the referee who will decide the final outcome (as in this case). Everyone can also read this NBA Response to ESPN’s Tim Donaghy Story. Which brought more attention after the controversial call in this game.

I do understand your frustration but you should get used to it yet these situations do exist on NBA where referee calls sometimes are questionable specially on a close fight game.As a basketball sports lover and a fan you will see clearly on how these calls are way too shady but we cant do anything about it.

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I reaaaally do not want to see Durant get another FMVP, not because I hate Durant (which I kind of do) but because Curry deserved one and never really got one.

We cannot say he deserve it when the Finals is not over.
Every time that Durant wins an Finals MVP award, I have no doubt that he deserve it, of the starters, he is the most consistent not only in scoring
but in other area as well. If Curry will let his presence felt in the Finals, then he will get it, but unfortunately we cannot expect that the way he play now will be the same level during the NBA finals.

When it comes to consistency plays i would vote for Durant yet we have seen on how Curry perform when he's double teamed but i agree on the fact that Curry do deserved that MVP award but who knows if he would able to pull it off this season.

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Quote from: darewaller on March 31, 2019, 04:35:43 AM

I reaaaally do not want to see Durant get another FMVP, not because I hate Durant (which I kind of do) but because Curry deserved one and never really got one.

We cannot say he deserve it when the Finals is not over.
Every time that Durant wins an Finals MVP award, I have no doubt that he deserve it, of the starters, he is the most consistent not only in scoring
but in other area as well. If Curry will let his presence felt in the Finals, then he will get it, but unfortunately we cannot expect that the way he play now will be the same level during the NBA finals.

I agree. I would say Durant deserves the Finals MVP because he was the most consistent amongst their best player that's why he got the awards. If Curry wanted it, he could easily get it, but during crucial plays, Durant delivered a dagger 3's, shifting the momentum in their side, thus winning the title.

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Quote from: darewaller on March 31, 2019, 04:35:43 AM

I reaaaally do not want to see Durant get another FMVP, not because I hate Durant (which I kind of do) but because Curry deserved one and never really got one.

We cannot say he deserve it when the Finals is not over.
Every time that Durant wins an Finals MVP award, I have no doubt that he deserve it, of the starters, he is the most consistent not only in scoring
but in other area as well. If Curry will let his presence felt in the Finals, then he will get it, but unfortunately we cannot expect that the way he play now will be the same level during the NBA finals.

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I reaaaally do not want to see Durant get another FMVP, not because I hate Durant (which I kind of do) but because Curry deserved one and never really got one. First year for some reason they gave it to the 6thman Iggy, I mean the main guy on that team was Curry so why the hell they gave it to Iggy I will never know, than twice to Durant which I understand but Curry is the reason why Warriors exists, take curry out and that team loses.

I mean cousins is not gonna be there next year most probably so we are talking about only Klay-Durant-dray for warriors, hell OKC had better duo with Westbrook and Durant and even had some help with Adams and all that and failed, so believe me take Curry out and warriors are nothing, they desperately need Curry yet he never gets his recognition on FMVP time.

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Quote from: sana54210 on March 30, 2019, 04:04:42 PM

At this point for a team to beat warriors they need to not only fight as hard as they can and do as best as they can but they also need the calls on their side as well.

It is all about what makes NBA watched more, we all know warriors is the best team in the league by far, it is not even close whoever the second you may think it is, so its getting a bit boring, even during Lakers three peat years it was at least a bit of fun and there was a bit of challenge in many of those years.

So if you make the refs somehow fight against warriors and warriors need to fight a lot harder than other teams to win like have some sort of handicap against them than you make the games a bit more entertaining, I hope this continues because otherwise we are just gonna see the first 4 rings in a row next year since Celtics did it and it won't be entertaining at all.

If that is so then why call it a professional basketball.
Refs doing that will lose their trust on them.
Do you reqlly think the refs are always on the GSW side? It will be breaching their profession and there is consequences for breaking that.
Either lose their license or they willpay a high price.

They are not perfect though. It is a decision of a human and what he saw.

Every team just needs to play hard if they really want to win the game. GSW is just doing that every game.
They can be defeated, you just need the right keys and perfection to every plays.

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Quote from: Baofeng on March 30, 2019, 01:39:00 AM

Anyone seen the Warriors vs Wolves game? A lot of controversial calls in that game. Well, first off, Curry led the team from 9 point down in the last 1.5 minutes hitting threes. But prior to that with 5.8 seconds left, Durant hit a three and get fouled. I thought it was going to be a four point play and give the Warriors the lead by it's waved by the referee, to my surprised. Then Curry buries a three to tie the game with 0.5 seconds. The only possible way to score at this point for the Wolves is to lobe a pass to KAT, it was long. However, the referee called a crucial foul on Durant for pushing KAT, very controversial. KAT made 1 out of 2. Giving the Wolves 131-130 win. What are you thoughts? Is it a right call?

I was thinking a couple of months ago about these calls the referee make during these games and they seem to be out of no where. There are officials which do favor certain players and teams so you never know about these type of calls which can cost the team the game. Especially by one point. Undecided

This is not new, that's why some says NBA is rigged.
I believe there's a big money betting on the Warriors in this game or the public money is on the warriors, so they let the Wolves win the game.
For pure fans, we will not appreciate this, but for gamblers and fans at the same time, we already understand this.

Yes, I know that this is not new, actually they have caught someone already and I'm sure everyone here knows about him. But my point is let the players play their game and not the referee who will decide the final outcome (as in this case). Everyone can also read this NBA Response to ESPN’s Tim Donaghy Story. Which brought more attention after the controversial call in this game.

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Quote from: Caladonian on March 30, 2019, 10:35:08 PM

Can be the reason why this things happen, but being a professional you need to act accordingly, this call only showed that the ref really still have the control inside the court, no matter how great is the player was he can still make a mistake and ref can call against him, lesson learned from KD.

They are professional but they are just human, so they can make mistakes.

Quote from: Caladonian on March 30, 2019, 10:35:08 PM

Moving on.. playoffs is approaching and surely KD and the rest of the GSW team will be ready for this for sure.

For sure, if they will get a 3 peat this season, I am expecting that Durant will again get another Finals MVP.

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The last one which was his foul, he clearly get physical to KAT, and refs saw a little push.

That was 100% a foul, I agree with you and I'm glad ref had the guts to call it. Usually with 3 or less seconds left on the clock refs rarely call any contact a foul.

I agree, as well. That foul was made even before the ball got close to KAT. I dont know why they were complaining about that. That call was a very important and crucial one, so does the situation. The ref did a good job there, paying attention to every detail and called a foul when its really needed.

Maybe durant is just getting old and forgets how to play in the dying seconds of the game now. He hit the three pointer before currys but he forgot to do the step back to draw the foul after his shot. This is how harden does it all day long. So why didnt he which wouldnt compromise the win?
If they knew karl towns was going to be the go to guy then where was the double team? Let the perimeter shooters try if they wanted to. You just knew they were going on the inside to towns if he was open.

He loss focus as he still cannot accept that his shot was not counted as 3 point play and a possible 4.
That's how game goes, if you loss focus you will definitely loss, Durant is a star play, and no doubt with that, but he can only commit mistakes.

Can be the reason why this things happen, but being a professional you need to act accordingly, this call only showed that the ref really still have the control inside the court, no matter how great is the player was he can still make a mistake and ref can call against him, lesson learned from KD.

Moving on.. playoffs is approaching and surely KD and the rest of the GSW team will be ready for this for sure.

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Quote from: Natalim on March 30, 2019, 03:39:03 AM

The last one which was his foul, he clearly get physical to KAT, and refs saw a little push.

That was 100% a foul, I agree with you and I'm glad ref had the guts to call it. Usually with 3 or less seconds left on the clock refs rarely call any contact a foul.

I agree, as well. That foul was made even before the ball got close to KAT. I dont know why they were complaining about that. That call was a very important and crucial one, so does the situation. The ref did a good job there, paying attention to every detail and called a foul when its really needed.

Maybe durant is just getting old and forgets how to play in the dying seconds of the game now. He hit the three pointer before currys but he forgot to do the step back to draw the foul after his shot. This is how harden does it all day long. So why didnt he which wouldnt compromise the win?
If they knew karl towns was going to be the go to guy then where was the double team? Let the perimeter shooters try if they wanted to. You just knew they were going on the inside to towns if he was open.

He loss focus as he still cannot accept that his shot was not counted as 3 point play and a possible 4.
That's how game goes, if you loss focus you will definitely loss, Durant is a star play, and no doubt with that, but he can only commit mistakes.

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Quote from: Natalim on March 30, 2019, 03:39:03 AM

The last one which was his foul, he clearly get physical to KAT, and refs saw a little push.

That was 100% a foul, I agree with you and I'm glad ref had the guts to call it. Usually with 3 or less seconds left on the clock refs rarely call any contact a foul.

I agree, as well. That foul was made even before the ball got close to KAT. I dont know why they were complaining about that. That call was a very important and crucial one, so does the situation. The ref did a good job there, paying attention to every detail and called a foul when its really needed.

Maybe durant is just getting old and forgets how to play in the dying seconds of the game now. He hit the three pointer before currys but he forgot to do the step back to draw the foul after his shot. This is how harden does it all day long. So why didnt he which wouldnt compromise the win?
If they knew karl towns was going to be the go to guy then where was the double team? Let the perimeter shooters try if they wanted to. You just knew they were going on the inside to towns if he was open.

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Quote from: morvillz7z on March 30, 2019, 01:37:02 PM

Quote from: Natalim on March 30, 2019, 03:39:03 AM

The last one which was his foul, he clearly get physical to KAT, and refs saw a little push.

That was 100% a foul, I agree with you and I'm glad ref had the guts to call it. Usually with 3 or less seconds left on the clock refs rarely call any contact a foul.

I agree, as well. That foul was made even before the ball got close to KAT. I dont know why they were complaining about that. That call was a very important and crucial one, so does the situation. The ref did a good job there, paying attention to every detail and called a foul when its really needed.

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At this point for a team to beat warriors they need to not only fight as hard as they can and do as best as they can but they also need the calls on their side as well.

It is all about what makes NBA watched more, we all know warriors is the best team in the league by far, it is not even close whoever the second you may think it is, so its getting a bit boring, even during Lakers three peat years it was at least a bit of fun and there was a bit of challenge in many of those years.

So if you make the refs somehow fight against warriors and warriors need to fight a lot harder than other teams to win like have some sort of handicap against them than you make the games a bit more entertaining, I hope this continues because otherwise we are just gonna see the first 4 rings in a row next year since Celtics did it and it won't be entertaining at all.

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I agree that it was a foul. Durant was beaten to the position and the only way to catch KAT is to hold on his jersey to stop him from going to the hoop. I don't know how Durant could have missed that play, obviously KAT is the only option but he was too slow to react.

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Quote from: Natalim on March 30, 2019, 03:39:03 AM

The last one which was his foul, he clearly get physical to KAT, and refs saw a little push.

That was 100% a foul, I agree with you and I'm glad ref had the guts to call it. Usually with 3 or less seconds left on the clock refs rarely call any contact a foul.

This is how you play defense when you get beat to the spot. Grab his jersey, hold his waist/hip area, keep holding it and then push him slightly in the back just in case. Grin

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Quote from: rdbase on March 29, 2019, 02:17:57 PM

The nuggets have fell off the wagon and do not look like they will be any good in the playoffs. Jovic looks like a joke out there and where is murray with those three point sinkers in the final minutes of the game?
There last two games they failed to score more than 100 points in a game. They cant blame it on making it through to just stroll past in the regular season. Very disappointing for their home fans to see them in their next game. Undecided

yeah whatever it is because itnis very clear to now that the team who manages to reach thr magic 4 in easter and western conference will be the same in this season. GSW has a lot pf good players and definitely they still.has the high chance in winning again the overall championship.

Anyway, there are many good teams to consider so whatever the result is when there is a championship game and it will.involve GSW then i should not miss to bet on GSW again like lasy year. Betting takes the win whoever the team wins the championship.

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Quote from: Baofeng on March 30, 2019, 01:39:00 AM

Anyone seen the Warriors vs Wolves game? A lot of controversial calls in that game. Well, first off, Curry led the team from 9 point down in the last 1.5 minutes hitting threes. But prior to that with 5.8 seconds left, Durant hit a three and get fouled. I thought it was going to be a four point play and give the Warriors the lead by it's waved by the referee, to my surprised. Then Curry buries a three to tie the game with 0.5 seconds. The only possible way to score at this point for the Wolves is to lobe a pass to KAT, it was long. However, the referee called a crucial foul on Durant for pushing KAT, very controversial. KAT made 1 out of 2. Giving the Wolves 131-130 win. What are you thoughts? Is it a right call?

I don't know. Maybe it's the referee's way of getting back at Curry taunting one of them after he made a three in 0.5 seconds. Although the ref didn't see it because he has his back on Curry, but the other two might witnessed, that's why the controversial call.

I have to take a review because I don't know if that is the same referee that he taunts that made that call. I still remember though Duncan, he was ejected, by just laughing in the bench. Grin

NBA referees nowadays are too soft to those calls and these unwanted fouls are the one that's so frustrating on behalf of the players. I watched the game and it's indeed GSW vs. WOLVES and the REFS.
Kevin Durant already released a 3 point shot behind the arc and he's in the shooting motion before the referee calls for a foul but the Ref. didn't count the bucket instead calls for a regular foul but luckily Steph Curry made a 3 point shot but then again the Ref. was on the move and they called a soft foul on Durant and KAT made 1 pt. game winning free throw. It was Rigged!

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Quote from: Baofeng on March 30, 2019, 01:39:00 AM

Anyone seen the Warriors vs Wolves game? A lot of controversial calls in that game. Well, first off, Curry led the team from 9 point down in the last 1.5 minutes hitting threes. But prior to that with 5.8 seconds left, Durant hit a three and get fouled. I thought it was going to be a four point play and give the Warriors the lead by it's waved by the referee, to my surprised. Then Curry buries a three to tie the game with 0.5 seconds. The only possible way to score at this point for the Wolves is to lobe a pass to KAT, it was long. However, the referee called a crucial foul on Durant for pushing KAT, very controversial. KAT made 1 out of 2. Giving the Wolves 131-130 win. What are you thoughts? Is it a right call?

I was thinking a couple of months ago about these calls the referee make during these games and they seem to be out of no where. There are officials which do favor certain players and teams so you never know about these type of calls which can cost the team the game. Especially by one point. Undecided

it's very controversial indeed, calls which can let go and allow the overtime to decide the game, but it's a referees decision as it is, and even players contest that call it can't be change if they've seen a contact, but for viewers like us this two calls will be a questionable one both for durant, a winning
shot and this foul without moving opponents.

Usually though refs are letting go of fouls specially in the last dying seconds because they wanted to avoid controversy. But referee's decision is final though. But just image if this is playoff time. I'm sure that there will be a lot of media backlash. Is this a sign that referee are going to be extra tight in playoffs specially it can spell the difference between a team winning or losing?

EDIT: After watching the replay, it looks like a legit call by the referee, imho.

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Quote from: Baofeng on March 30, 2019, 01:39:00 AM

Anyone seen the Warriors vs Wolves game? A lot of controversial calls in that game. Well, first off, Curry led the team from 9 point down in the last 1.5 minutes hitting threes. But prior to that with 5.8 seconds left, Durant hit a three and get fouled. I thought it was going to be a four point play and give the Warriors the lead by it's waved by the referee, to my surprised. Then Curry buries a three to tie the game with 0.5 seconds. The only possible way to score at this point for the Wolves is to lobe a pass to KAT, it was long. However, the referee called a crucial foul on Durant for pushing KAT, very controversial. KAT made 1 out of 2. Giving the Wolves 131-130 win. What are you thoughts? Is it a right call?

I was thinking a couple of months ago about these calls the referee make during these games and they seem to be out of no where. There are officials which do favor certain players and teams so you never know about these type of calls which can cost the team the game. Especially by one point. Undecided

it's very controversial indeed, calls which can let go and allow the overtime to decide the game, but it's a referees decision as it is, and even players contest that call it can't be change if they've seen a contact, but for viewers like us this two calls will be a questionable one both for durant, a winning
shot and this foul without moving opponents.

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Quote from: Jating on March 30, 2019, 02:56:29 AM

Quote from: Baofeng on March 30, 2019, 01:39:00 AM

Anyone seen the Warriors vs Wolves game? A lot of controversial calls in that game. Well, first off, Curry led the team from 9 point down in the last 1.5 minutes hitting threes. But prior to that with 5.8 seconds left, Durant hit a three and get fouled. I thought it was going to be a four point play and give the Warriors the lead by it's waved by the referee, to my surprised. Then Curry buries a three to tie the game with 0.5 seconds. The only possible way to score at this point for the Wolves is to lobe a pass to KAT, it was long. However, the referee called a crucial foul on Durant for pushing KAT, very controversial. KAT made 1 out of 2. Giving the Wolves 131-130 win. What are you thoughts? Is it a right call?

I don't know. Maybe it's the referee's way of getting back at Curry taunting one of them after he made a three in 0.5 seconds. Although the ref didn't see it because he has his back on Curry, but the other two might witnessed, that's why the controversial call.

I have to take a review because I don't know if that is the same referee that he taunts that made that call. I still remember though Duncan, he was ejected, by just laughing in the bench. Grin

I don't see anything wrong with the play, I'm sorry to disagree with you guys.
I saw the replay, the first shot made by Durant was a foul before the shot, there's still plenty of time so why would he catch and shoot on that?

The last one which was his foul, he clearly get physical to KAT, and refs saw a little push.

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Quote from: Baofeng on March 30, 2019, 01:39:00 AM

Anyone seen the Warriors vs Wolves game? A lot of controversial calls in that game. Well, first off, Curry led the team from 9 point down in the last 1.5 minutes hitting threes. But prior to that with 5.8 seconds left, Durant hit a three and get fouled. I thought it was going to be a four point play and give the Warriors the lead by it's waved by the referee, to my surprised. Then Curry buries a three to tie the game with 0.5 seconds. The only possible way to score at this point for the Wolves is to lobe a pass to KAT, it was long. However, the referee called a crucial foul on Durant for pushing KAT, very controversial. KAT made 1 out of 2. Giving the Wolves 131-130 win. What are you thoughts? Is it a right call?

I don't know. Maybe it's the referee's way of getting back at Curry taunting one of them after he made a three in 0.5 seconds. Although the ref didn't see it because he has his back on Curry, but the other two might witnessed, that's why the controversial call.

I have to take a review because I don't know if that is the same referee that he taunts that made that call. I still remember though Duncan, he was ejected, by just laughing in the bench. Grin

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