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Quote from: wheelz1200 on September 25, 2019, 02:06:55 PM

As far as what Giannis should get as a contract, he would get offered the max by every single team who has the cap space available to add him to their team, hands down no question about that.

Agree here. Every team surely will offer a max contract to Giannis once he became available at free agency.

About the recent minor penalty to the Bucks, it's prohibited to talk about contract price or value or make an advance announcement about it to a player that is currently on contract. I remember someone got the same penalty before. Can't remember it.

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Quote from: harizen on September 25, 2019, 05:42:39 PM

There are no teams left now on the rumor list that might sign Melo even for low chances.

So this we can say that Melo's career in the NBA is over?
He will be remembered of course, its just that his style and his personality is not attractive to any team, they still see him as an NBA star that wants to have a big role in a team that he wants to play, and for a player like Melo, it's hard to give up his ego or his pride so that might cause trouble to the team, maybe that's the reason why they are getting rid of him even at a minimum contract.

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Looks like we can't see Carmelo Anthony now this upcoming season.

Brooklyn Nets is the closest team on the rumor list that might sign Melo but instead, they sign other players despite the push from Kyrie Irving, Kevin Durant, and the other Nets.

It's almost a game time next week (Pre-Season) games and I doubt any trading movement "involving him" will happen once the season starts on 10/23. Majority of all teams are done now finalizing their lineup.

There are no teams left now on the rumor list that might sign Melo even for low chances.

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Quote from: bisdak40 on September 25, 2019, 03:05:27 AM

The NBA has just fined the Bucks $50K for disclosing their plans of signing Antetokounmpo to a supermax contract next summer that worth $253.8 million, it would be a history in the NBA.

If that contract would push through, how many years would that be?

Is Giannis deserve that much?

What a dumb fine made by NBA again, I really don't get the point on why they would give a fine on plan for a player they already have. It's like just saying their plans for the future for their own players I don't see how they violated anything especially when it is still the off season and Giannis is already half way done to his contract. I believe I have seen similar news about opinions from the GMs and the owners but I didn't see any reports of a fine that followed after making the comment. I don't know if this is a new rule or they really have favorites within the NBA.

The fine is just a small amount, so maybe its just a small violation of whatever rules they have in the organization.
I'm guessing that a team can say that they will again sign Giannis but they could not disclose the amount that early as there's a big effect to the teams that are planning to go after Giannis or maybe they could make an early plan for whatever their puprose on the team as they would already know the possible salary cap space of the Bucks but its not really a serious offense since like I said the fine is just a small amount.

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Quote from: harizen on September 25, 2019, 01:36:26 PM

Quote from: bisdak40 on September 25, 2019, 03:05:27 AM

If that contract would push through, how many years would that be?

I will assume the supermax contract should not over a 5-year deal. I remember GSW's Steph Curry is currently on a supermax contract. Never heard of 6 or more or maybe I just missed it. Just someone corrects me here if I'm wrong but I'm sure there's no direct 6-year deal supermax contract up to date. It should be an extension.

Just this off-season, Damian Lillard sign a supermax contract too but for a 4-year deal. So maybe minimum 4 but not more than 5? lol.

Quote from: bisdak40 on September 25, 2019, 03:05:27 AM

Is Giannis deserve that much?

Only Milwaukee Bucks can answer that.

Although Giannis already said that he will loyal to the team, maybe Bucks just want to make sure that no teams can lure him out.

Yes 5 years is the max that contract can be made for, contracts be as short as 10 days, not that any superstar will go on a 10 day contract and will demand a max year contract but it is possible.

As far as what Giannis should get as a contract, he would get offered the max by every single team who has the cap space available to add him to their team, hands down no question about that.

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Quote from: bisdak40 on September 25, 2019, 03:05:27 AM

If that contract would push through, how many years would that be?

I will assume the supermax contract should not over a 5-year deal. I remember GSW's Steph Curry is currently on a supermax contract. Never heard of 6 or more or maybe I just missed it. Just someone corrects me here if I'm wrong but I'm sure there's no direct 6-year deal supermax contract up to date. It should be an extension.

Just this off-season, Damian Lillard sign a supermax contract too but for a 4-year deal. So maybe minimum 4 but not more than 5? lol.

Quote from: bisdak40 on September 25, 2019, 03:05:27 AM

Is Giannis deserve that much?

Only Milwaukee Bucks can answer that.

Although Giannis already said that he will loyal to the team, maybe Bucks just want to make sure that no teams can lure him out.

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Quote from: bisdak40 on September 25, 2019, 03:05:27 AM

The NBA has just fined the Bucks $50K for disclosing their plans of signing Antetokounmpo to a supermax contract next summer that worth $253.8 million, it would be a history in the NBA.

If that contract would push through, how many years would that be?

Is Giannis deserve that much?

What a dumb fine made by NBA again, I really don't get the point on why they would give a fine on plan for a player they already have. It's like just saying their plans for the future for their own players I don't see how they violated anything especially when it is still the off season and Giannis is already half way done to his contract. I believe I have seen similar news about opinions from the GMs and the owners but I didn't see any reports of a fine that followed after making the comment. I don't know if this is a new rule or they really have favorites within the NBA.

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Quote from: wheelz1200 on September 24, 2019, 06:48:19 PM

You might be right about paul and harden not being a good combination there is a reason for that. Chris is a pure point guard and is best paired with someone who can play off the ball like klay Thompson can. Harden needed the ball all the time which negates Paul's PGA creativity. Westbrook's is a little bit just like harden so we'll see.

Harden will be a better point guard that Westbrook although westrbrook have almost triple double in this previous team but we know he is stat padding.
This is hard combination to mend actually but the Rockets allowing this to happen, they should see something we don't see.

Quote from: wheelz1200 on September 24, 2019, 06:48:19 PM

.....and Jeremy line was never a star. He had 15 minutes of fame with New York but that was it.

That wasn't just one game, he was able to do that in many games with NYC while their star player was injured but when Melo came back, Lin was not anymore given a chance.

I dont think Westbrook's stat pads, he was forced to he that aggressive player on okc based on the style of play. Will be interesting to see how him and harden change.

And lin was not given a chance again to be the man because he just isnt that good. Is is alright in terms of role Ayers but he is/was never near star level. He had a good couple of games on a very bad team.

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It makes no sense because it was a question asked by a reporter and GM just responded, if someone asks the GM "will you supermax Giannis" then he obviously will say "yes" and move on, that is not something weird or even unexpected, like we all knew that Giannis was getting the supermax, anything other than that would have been weird to begin with, dude is a MVP and such a great guy personally as well and tries to improve himself all the time, why wouldn't bucks sign him to supermax.

NBA league office just went too overboard with this, league is doing great all of its own without any need from the league office so sometimes they do these kinds of stuff to remind people that league office is still there and can do stuff, if they just handled the business end of things and shut up, league would be fine for another 50+ years without their help and that is their problem, they want to stay relevant.

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2019/20   $37,199,000
2020/21   $39,058,950
2021/22   $40,918,900
2022/23   $42,778,850

As we can see, it's increasing, so he needs to become fully healthy again to enjoy that increasing salary.

I guess that Brooklyn Nets won't take him if they see a handicap taking him. I think KD is pretty well and able now and Brooklyn saw that.

Yes his salary is increasing as years progress for him in Brooklyn but if he aggravate his injury, this salary will only go to waste. KD should not force himself in playing and wait for his full recovery.

A sports team management wouldn't waste that amount of money for someone that they don't have faith to bring their team on a better view of the league.

This season is still long so I assume that KD will recover completely.

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Quote from: Ranly123 on September 25, 2019, 03:46:34 AM

Quote from: bisdak40 on September 25, 2019, 03:05:27 AM

The NBA has just fined the Bucks $50K for disclosing their plans of signing Antetokounmpo to a supermax contract next summer that worth $253.8 million, it would be a history in the NBA.

If that contract would push through, how many years would that be?

Is Giannis deserve that much?

Giannis deserve how much the team can offer since he is capable of giving his all for the sake of winning. But unfortunately, is this contract would push through it would close an opportunity of acquiring quality players which would be vital for the team.

Acquiring players who are capable to help him uplift the team to win the championship, though it's also something that he deserves since he's really playing all-in for the sake of winning. If the franchise wanted to keep him, it needs for them to offer him a contract that's very competitive and something that he can't really afford to turn down.

After receiving the conference MVP, he already upgraded his status from this league. He'sstill young and have a lot of potential growth. He can add more success to his career.

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Quote from: Fundamentals Of on September 24, 2019, 11:18:41 PM

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He is more of compelled to adjust his game. He cannot just stick to his old game like we have seen before in the old KD. He needs to tone down his physical plays and quick drives. It would either be this or he will strain himself again and again and probably live the rest of his NBA life as an on-and-off man on the court. The guy is a good shooter anyway so he remains more of an asset rather than a liability to the team.

Being a shooter have really its good sides since the type of basketball now is more on a shooting game unlike before where they drive to the paint or a post up.

He have a long span which will be difficult to reach once hands are stretched up.
The good thing is, whatever happens he already have a great contract and I dont think he will breach anything just to lose that.
He could live with it even with an injury.

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Quote from: Ranly123 on September 25, 2019, 03:46:34 AM

Quote from: bisdak40 on September 25, 2019, 03:05:27 AM

The NBA has just fined the Bucks $50K for disclosing their plans of signing Antetokounmpo to a supermax contract next summer that worth $253.8 million, it would be a history in the NBA.

If that contract would push through, how many years would that be?

Is Giannis deserve that much?

Giannis deserve how much the team can offer since he is capable of giving his all for the sake of winning. But unfortunately, is this contract would push through it would close an opportunity of acquiring quality players which would be vital for the team.

He definitely deserved that because he was the MVP last season and might still be the MVP this coming season, with a change of coaching style, I think he will be very useful, its understandable that he cannot generate his usual scoring in the East Finals against Toronto because he was doubled or even triple and he is not super human, the offense should be spread and it's the job of the coaching staff to make some plays that will maximize the skills of Giannis.

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Quote from: bisdak40 on September 25, 2019, 03:05:27 AM

The NBA has just fined the Bucks $50K for disclosing their plans of signing Antetokounmpo to a supermax contract next summer that worth $253.8 million, it would be a history in the NBA.

Oh boy! What a big offer for Giannis Shocked

. It seems very obvious that Bucks wanted him to stay very long probably because they see him as their last and biggest hope to have a taste of being a champion Cheesy

. Well, I might say that it was a good deal for them because we can really see the result — Bucks now became one of the top tier teams in the NBA today.

On the talks whether he will sign, for me the answer will be yes based on John Horst's (Buck's general manager) statement,

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And we've taken great steps towards that last year. We've continued to build on that. We're going to continue to build on that. I think we all fully believe that if we continue to put the right things in place and give Giannis the right opportunities -- he loves Milwaukee, he loves the state of Wisconsin -- I think he'll be a Buck for a long time.

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Quote from: bisdak40 on September 25, 2019, 03:05:27 AM

The NBA has just fined the Bucks $50K for disclosing their plans of signing Antetokounmpo to a supermax contract next summer that worth $253.8 million, it would be a history in the NBA.

If that contract would push through, how many years would that be?

Is Giannis deserve that much?

Giannis deserve how much the team can offer since he is capable of giving his all for the sake of winning. But unfortunately, is this contract would push through it would close an opportunity of acquiring quality players which would be vital for the team.

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Quote from: wheelz1200 on September 24, 2019, 06:54:02 PM

All this money is guaranteed. He doesnt have to play a single game and every dollar is guaranteed to him.

And the quote above that. No way is he ready to play nba speed basketball. Dude blew out his Achilles a coue of months ago, shooting around and playing at top speed are 2 different things. My guess would be maybe in april he will come back and try to get ready for the playoffs if the nets are in position to make it in.

I am more worried about the mental issue.
Yes he might come back but not like the Durant that we have watched in GSW.
There will be less speed and less power.
I am thinking more of a Nowitzki kind of game. But that is one hell of a formidable offensive player. I will take that for that amount of salary and there will still be no regrets with it.

Mental issue might be a problem to any player who suffers a major injury. But I hope he'll comeback slowly until he regains the confidence and conditioning of his body.
There has been a lot of NBA players who really suffered the wrath of a major injury. To sight a few Drose, Tmac, Bynum, and etc. But there were also the likes of Paul George who really fight his way back to his game, though he made a lot of adjustments to his game which is a wise move. Im thinking George has a really tough mentality. I hope KD will overcome this one.

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The NBA has just fined the Bucks $50K for disclosing their plans of signing Antetokounmpo to a supermax contract next summer that worth $253.8 million, it would be a history in the NBA.

If that contract would push through, how many years would that be?

Is Giannis deserve that much?

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Quote from: wheelz1200 on September 24, 2019, 06:48:19 PM

You might be right about paul and harden not being a good combination there is a reason for that. Chris is a pure point guard and is best paired with someone who can play off the ball like klay Thompson can. Harden needed the ball all the time which negates Paul's PGA creativity. Westbrook's is a little bit just like harden so we'll see.

Harden will be a better point guard that Westbrook although westrbrook have almost triple double in this previous team but we know he is stat padding.
This is hard combination to mend actually but the Rockets allowing this to happen, they should see something we don't see.

Quote from: wheelz1200 on September 24, 2019, 06:48:19 PM

.....and Jeremy line was never a star. He had 15 minutes of fame with New York but that was it.

That wasn't just one game, he was able to do that in many games with NYC while their star player was injured but when Melo came back, Lin was not anymore given a chance.

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Quote from: Kasabus on September 24, 2019, 11:32:05 PM

Quote from: Fundamentals Of on September 24, 2019, 11:18:41 PM

He is more of compelled to adjust his game. He cannot just stick to his old game like we have seen before in the old KD. He needs to tone down his physical plays and quick drives. It would either be this or he will strain himself again and again and probably live the rest of his NBA life as an on-and-off man on the court. The guy is a good shooter anyway so he remains more of an asset rather than a liability to the team.

He can do that of course but eventually he will be back on his old self, PG had serious injury, starts to just focus on jump shooting by later in the last last season, we've seen him drive the ball and even had some good dunks, slowly he will get his confidence back again.

PG is a good testament that players can really came back from their worst injury, and be their old self. We have seen this last year wherein he put up MVP caliber statistics heading to the playoffs and had dunks that we couldn't imagine that he can pull off after that injury.

Quote from: Kasabus on September 24, 2019, 11:32:05 PM

Durant is no doubt a good percentage shooter, if the management will tell him to just shot and don't defend hard, he will do that, life would be easier for him in that matter but I'm afraid he will be abuse by his opponent especially if he will start Lebron which we know a very strong and physical player.

Durant is a good defensive player in my opinion, I don't think he can simply abandon it and abuse by others. I'm sure he will rely on outside shooting first when he goes back and slowly but up good numbers including rebounds and block shots.

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Quote from: Fundamentals Of on September 24, 2019, 11:18:41 PM

He is more of compelled to adjust his game. He cannot just stick to his old game like we have seen before in the old KD. He needs to tone down his physical plays and quick drives. It would either be this or he will strain himself again and again and probably live the rest of his NBA life as an on-and-off man on the court. The guy is a good shooter anyway so he remains more of an asset rather than a liability to the team.

He can do that of course but eventually he will be back on his old self, PG had serious injury, starts to just focus on jump shooting by later in the last last season, we've seen him drive the ball and even had some good dunks, slowly he will get his confidence back again.

Durant is no doubt a good percentage shooter, if the management will tell him to just shot and don't defend hard, he will do that, life would be easier for him in that matter but I'm afraid he will be abuse by his opponent especially if he will start Lebron which we know a very strong and physical player.

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