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Quote from: Jating on September 24, 2019, 10:56:49 PM

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Quote from: wheelz1200 on September 24, 2019, 06:54:02 PM

All this money is guaranteed. He doesnt have to play a single game and every dollar is guaranteed to him.

And the quote above that. No way is he ready to play nba speed basketball. Dude blew out his Achilles a coue of months ago, shooting around and playing at top speed are 2 different things. My guess would be maybe in april he will come back and try to get ready for the playoffs if the nets are in position to make it in.

I am more worried about the mental issue.
Yes he might come back but not like the Durant that we have watched in GSW.
There will be less speed and less power.
I am thinking more of a Nowitzki kind of game. But that is one hell of a formidable offensive player. I will take that for that amount of salary and there will still be no regrets with it.

I agree about the mental issue, players can do everything in rehab but if their mind is not there we could possibly see the players not playing his usual self. So it's really important as well to develop his mindset prior to playing his first ever game coming from that injury.

He could evolved, but I don't know if a Nowitzki kind of game. Perhaps he could improved more on his passing. His shooting is already good as we have seen him putting a dagger specially in crucial minutes of the game.

He is more of compelled to adjust his game. He cannot just stick to his old game like we have seen before in the old KD. He needs to tone down his physical plays and quick drives. It would either be this or he will strain himself again and again and probably live the rest of his NBA life as an on-and-off man on the court. The guy is a good shooter anyway so he remains more of an asset rather than a liability to the team.

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Quote from: Reid on September 24, 2019, 10:43:51 PM

Quote from: wheelz1200 on September 24, 2019, 06:54:02 PM

All this money is guaranteed. He doesnt have to play a single game and every dollar is guaranteed to him.

And the quote above that. No way is he ready to play nba speed basketball. Dude blew out his Achilles a coue of months ago, shooting around and playing at top speed are 2 different things. My guess would be maybe in april he will come back and try to get ready for the playoffs if the nets are in position to make it in.

I am more worried about the mental issue.
Yes he might come back but not like the Durant that we have watched in GSW.
There will be less speed and less power.
I am thinking more of a Nowitzki kind of game. But that is one hell of a formidable offensive player. I will take that for that amount of salary and there will still be no regrets with it.

I agree about the mental issue, players can do everything in rehab but if their mind is not there we could possibly see the players not playing his usual self. So it's really important as well to develop his mindset prior to playing his first ever game coming from that injury.

He could evolved, but I don't know if a Nowitzki kind of game. Perhaps he could improved more on his passing. His shooting is already good as we have seen him putting a dagger specially in crucial minutes of the game.

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Quote from: wheelz1200 on September 24, 2019, 06:54:02 PM

All this money is guaranteed. He doesnt have to play a single game and every dollar is guaranteed to him.

And the quote above that. No way is he ready to play nba speed basketball. Dude blew out his Achilles a coue of months ago, shooting around and playing at top speed are 2 different things. My guess would be maybe in april he will come back and try to get ready for the playoffs if the nets are in position to make it in.

I am more worried about the mental issue.
Yes he might come back but not like the Durant that we have watched in GSW.
There will be less speed and less power.
I am thinking more of a Nowitzki kind of game. But that is one hell of a formidable offensive player. I will take that for that amount of salary and there will still be no regrets with it.

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Quote from: wheelz1200 on September 24, 2019, 06:54:02 PM

All this money is guaranteed. He doesnt have to play a single game and every dollar is guaranteed to him.

That's the beauty of his contract, but all within the contract is more on legal matters, all we know is he sign a max contract for the nets.
Based on what I read from this article. https://www.nbcsports.com/bayarea/warriors/new-details-emerge-regarding-kevin-durants-contract-nets

Quote from: wheelz1200 on September 24, 2019, 06:54:02 PM

And the quote above that. No way is he ready to play nba speed basketball. Dude blew out his Achilles a coue of months ago, shooting around and playing at top speed are 2 different things. My guess would be maybe in april he will come back and try to get ready for the playoffs if the nets are in position to make it in.

Let's see, Durant could be a different player, he might not be too aggressive driving the ball inside but with his range, he can still contribute big time to the team. If he will be back in the playoffs, then well and good, as long as he will be able to contribute to the team and will not be re injured anymore.

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Quote from: Natalim on September 24, 2019, 06:55:33 AM

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2019/20   $37,199,000
2020/21   $39,058,950
2021/22   $40,918,900
2022/23   $42,778,850

As we can see, it's increasing, so he needs to become fully healthy again to enjoy that increasing salary.

I guess that Brooklyn Nets won't take him if they see a handicap taking him. I think KD is pretty well and able now and Brooklyn saw that.

Yes his salary is increasing as years progress for him in Brooklyn but if he aggravate his injury, this salary will only go to waste. KD should not force himself in playing and wait for his full recovery.

All this money is guaranteed. He doesnt have to play a single game and every dollar is guaranteed to him.

And the quote above that. No way is he ready to play nba speed basketball. Dude blew out his Achilles a coue of months ago, shooting around and playing at top speed are 2 different things. My guess would be maybe in april he will come back and try to get ready for the playoffs if the nets are in position to make it in.

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Quote from: Yaunfitda on September 24, 2019, 01:49:09 AM

Miami doesn't have a young roster that could fit OKC's rebuilding in my opinion. Plus their young players are tie with huge salaries as well so I don't know how Miami can get away with that one. And if ever they do trade, will Butler and Paul click? I mean two players with large ego, we have seen it didn't last in Houston with Harden and Paul.

I think the problem really was James, he wants t lead the team when he is not clutch as Paul, IIRC, Lin also played with the Rockets and at that time, Lin was already considered as a star but they don't blend well, therefore I think that Harden does not want a star player to play with him.

Now that Harden is with WB, let's see if I'm wrong, I'm really confident I am not.
WB and Harden I think is not going to build a great chemistry.

You might be right about paul and harden not being a good combination there is a reason for that. Chris is a pure point guard and is best paired with someone who can play off the ball like klay Thompson can. Harden needed the ball all the time which negates Paul's PGA creativity. Westbrook's is a little bit just like harden so we'll see.

.....and Jeremy line was never a star. He had 15 minutes of fame with New York but that was it.

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Quote from: boyptc on September 24, 2019, 04:28:33 PM

Quote from: Natalim on September 24, 2019, 06:55:33 AM

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2019/20   $37,199,000
2020/21   $39,058,950
2021/22   $40,918,900
2022/23   $42,778,850

As we can see, it's increasing, so he needs to become fully healthy again to enjoy that increasing salary.

I guess that Brooklyn Nets won't take him if they see a handicap taking him. I think KD is pretty well and able now and Brooklyn saw that.

Yes his salary is increasing as years progress for him in Brooklyn but if he aggravate his injury, this salary will only go to waste. KD should not force himself in playing and wait for his full recovery.

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Quote from: Natalim on September 24, 2019, 06:55:33 AM

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2019/20   $37,199,000
2020/21   $39,058,950
2021/22   $40,918,900
2022/23   $42,778,850

As we can see, it's increasing, so he needs to become fully healthy again to enjoy that increasing salary.

I guess that Brooklyn Nets won't take him if they see a handicap taking him. I think KD is pretty well and able now and Brooklyn saw that.

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Quote from: beerlover on September 24, 2019, 10:16:49 AM

I hate these talks man, I have always been an avid supporter that Iggy is no one, he has been no one for the past year, dude is too old to be as good as people think he can be. Lakers shouldn't get him, nobody should get him, if Melo is out of the league and Jeremy Lin is out of the league then surely Iggy should retire as well, dude is old and slow as hell and he literally can't guard a bucket anymore, he was never a good scorer in warriors but now he can't even guard people, its his time to leave the game.

If any team really trades for him then I will feel sorry for them because that will not make any difference to their team and they will be down one guy on the trade at least. If you want to get a veteran defender on your team just get Ariza, I don't know where he is but I am sure it would be similarly easy to get him if you can afford to get Iggy.

Then let us talk about Carter if we are talking about age here.
Nonsense about him being of no use.

He did game winners defensive plays and offensive too. Didn't you watch the last Western Conference Finals Game 2? He stopped Lillard.
He also made a shot against the Raptors (which is questionable) but it went in. So it is still a good choice. He had the confidence.
Iggy might be the type of guy which can help the defensive role of their roster with some good advise or maybe play with them with the same view of making defense as a priority whenever their stars are resting.

I am telling you, it is getting difficult now to get a player which is also keen to defense. For me, they are the real winners.
Draymond Green, Patrick Beverley (the scariest moment where GSW is likely to lose), PJ Tucker, PG13, Marcus Smart, Gianis, Gobert and of course Kawhi Leonard.
With the hand check rule being banned, you could see players who can still showcase on how they defend even against the best players.
e.g. Beverley against Durant.

But I do agree with Ariza as a good pick also. Wink

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Quote from: Botnake on September 24, 2019, 03:35:25 AM

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Quote from: Bttzed03 on September 23, 2019, 10:47:14 PM

Some trade rumors going on:

Andre Iguodala will not be participating in the Memphis Grizzlies training camp. According to this report, both sides have a mutual agreement as Grizzlies is also pursuing for a trade.

It looks like Andre is not willing to play for a non-championship contender. I want to see him in a Clippers uniform.

There were early rumours that Lakers are pursuing Iggy, but I don't know what happen, it seems the rumour just die down. Might be good if he can suit up with the Clippers. But I don't know the players that the Clippers are willing to give up at this time just to get Iggy. They have settled already and already looking to contend this seasons for a NBA ring. But we will see, if Clippers needs someone to defend, give them points when needed and of course the experience Iggy can bring to the Clippers squad.

Iggy is more on a good defender than an offensive player, if a team wants to improve their chance of getting in the championship competition and win, they should get Iggy. I think he will suit up with the Lakers as the Lakers really needs to improve their defense and I think their new coach is a defensive oriented coach, unlike coach walton which style is the same as the Warriors IMO. We will eventually know soon, the fact that Iggy is not interested playing with the Grizzlies, he needs to be sent to other teams where he can showcase his talent.

Iggy have the skills both with scoring and providing good defense if he be added to any team with have a championship caliber then he will be one of a good asset to sign in, he can give quality minutes for the team's star to sit and rest up. If he can land with clippers that might fit him together with Kawhi and PG all three of them have a good talents not alone with scoring machines but also can lead up to boost the teams intensity to play harder.

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I hate these talks man, I have always been an avid supporter that Iggy is no one, he has been no one for the past year, dude is too old to be as good as people think he can be. Lakers shouldn't get him, nobody should get him, if Melo is out of the league and Jeremy Lin is out of the league then surely Iggy should retire as well, dude is old and slow as hell and he literally can't guard a bucket anymore, he was never a good scorer in warriors but now he can't even guard people, its his time to leave the game.

If any team really trades for him then I will feel sorry for them because that will not make any difference to their team and they will be down one guy on the trade at least. If you want to get a veteran defender on your team just get Ariza, I don't know where he is but I am sure it would be similarly easy to get him if you can afford to get Iggy.

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Quote from: Botnake on September 24, 2019, 03:35:25 AM

Quote from: btc_angela on September 24, 2019, 01:20:13 AM

Quote from: Bttzed03 on September 23, 2019, 10:47:14 PM

Some trade rumors going on:

Andre Iguodala will not be participating in the Memphis Grizzlies training camp. According to this report, both sides have a mutual agreement as Grizzlies is also pursuing for a trade.

It looks like Andre is not willing to play for a non-championship contender. I want to see him in a Clippers uniform.

There were early rumours that Lakers are pursuing Iggy, but I don't know what happen, it seems the rumour just die down. Might be good if he can suit up with the Clippers. But I don't know the players that the Clippers are willing to give up at this time just to get Iggy. They have settled already and already looking to contend this seasons for a NBA ring. But we will see, if Clippers needs someone to defend, give them points when needed and of course the experience Iggy can bring to the Clippers squad.

Iggy is more on a good defender than an offensive player, if a team wants to improve their chance of getting in the championship competition and win, they should get Iggy. I think he will suit up with the Lakers as the Lakers really needs to improve their defense and I think their new coach is a defensive oriented coach, unlike coach walton which style is the same as the Warriors IMO. We will eventually know soon, the fact that Iggy is not interested playing with the Grizzlies, he needs to be sent to other teams where he can showcase his talent.

I can see where Iggy is coming. Of course his last team is ring contender. He doesn't want his talent or remaining years in NBA to be in non-champ team. If I were iggy, I would do the same, you don't want to get cheaper and cheaper as you transfer into other team just because you and your team didn't shine.

I believe he is a good addition to Lakers line up if ever. He's defense is really great, good enough that he is the one guarding top scorer/player of a team especially in clutch time, he is awesome.

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Quote from: freedomgo on September 24, 2019, 12:59:26 AM

Paul will have more success if he will play with the Miami Heat, they don't have a star player anymore and I think Paul might also consider playing in a team.

They have Butler and a good coaching staff.
The East is not that huge by now.
They might have a chance if they just can that playoffs spot.

Gianis Bucks is one of the strongest and there is Celtics and Brooklyn.
We could say accurately that those three spots will be taken.
Miami aint that bad. They still have a great roster.
But it will be a difficult path. There is Indiana which is building a good chemistry and so does the Pistons.

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Quote from: wheelz1200 on September 23, 2019, 05:59:25 PM

Quote from: Natalim on September 23, 2019, 05:47:54 PM

The final decision is on Durant of course but I think he already learned his lesson when he re-injured himself during his stay with the warriors, this is a completely different team where he is the one that is expected to lead the team so he cannot afford any possible injury here that would only make the situation worst.

The nets gave him $100m+ contract, I'm sure they arent going to let a player say when they are hurt and not hurt after an Achilles injury. The medical staff will have to clear him to play before durant gets any say on if he plays or not, that's what the team medical staff is for.

That's why I'm saying that the final decision is with Durant, even if the medical team will clear him to play but he is still not confident yet, then its impossible for us to see him play. He knows his value as well and he is not new in receiving good salary, his projected salary with the Nets according to https://hoopshype.com/player/kevin-durant/salary/ is as follows.

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2019/20   $37,199,000
2020/21   $39,058,950
2021/22   $40,918,900
2022/23   $42,778,850

As we can see, it's increasing, so he needs to become fully healthy again to enjoy that increasing salary.

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Quote from: btc_angela on September 24, 2019, 01:20:13 AM

Quote from: Bttzed03 on September 23, 2019, 10:47:14 PM

Some trade rumors going on:

Andre Iguodala will not be participating in the Memphis Grizzlies training camp. According to this report, both sides have a mutual agreement as Grizzlies is also pursuing for a trade.

It looks like Andre is not willing to play for a non-championship contender. I want to see him in a Clippers uniform.

There were early rumours that Lakers are pursuing Iggy, but I don't know what happen, it seems the rumour just die down. Might be good if he can suit up with the Clippers. But I don't know the players that the Clippers are willing to give up at this time just to get Iggy. They have settled already and already looking to contend this seasons for a NBA ring. But we will see, if Clippers needs someone to defend, give them points when needed and of course the experience Iggy can bring to the Clippers squad.

Iggy is more on a good defender than an offensive player, if a team wants to improve their chance of getting in the championship competition and win, they should get Iggy. I think he will suit up with the Lakers as the Lakers really needs to improve their defense and I think their new coach is a defensive oriented coach, unlike coach walton which style is the same as the Warriors IMO. We will eventually know soon, the fact that Iggy is not interested playing with the Grizzlies, he needs to be sent to other teams where he can showcase his talent.

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Quote from: Yaunfitda on September 24, 2019, 01:49:09 AM

Miami doesn't have a young roster that could fit OKC's rebuilding in my opinion. Plus their young players are tie with huge salaries as well so I don't know how Miami can get away with that one. And if ever they do trade, will Butler and Paul click? I mean two players with large ego, we have seen it didn't last in Houston with Harden and Paul.

I think the problem really was James, he wants t lead the team when he is not clutch as Paul, IIRC, Lin also played with the Rockets and at that time, Lin was already considered as a star but they don't blend well, therefore I think that Harden does not want a star player to play with him.

Now that Harden is with WB, let's see if I'm wrong, I'm really confident I am not.
WB and Harden I think is not going to build a great chemistry.

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Quote from: freedomgo on September 24, 2019, 12:59:26 AM

Quote from: Bttzed03 on September 23, 2019, 10:47:14 PM

Some news sources says Miami Heat is also considering trading for Chris Paul. I don't know who they are planning to give up but with Paul's contract, it's probably going to be two or three players.

Paul will have more success if he will play with the Miami Heat, they don't have a star player anymore and I think Paul might also consider playing in a team.

Isn't it Miami just do sign for Jimmy Butler? I think Jimmy could be consider as a legit star.

Quote from: freedomgo on September 24, 2019, 12:59:26 AM

The OKC Thunder are now rebuilding, they would want a younger player in exchange of Paul as even if they will have Paul, it's not certain that they will be a playoff contender this coming season, Paul on the other hard could give a chance for the Heat to be in the playoffs as in the East, there's no much good teams compared to the West.

Miami doesn't have a young roster that could fit OKC's rebuilding in my opinion. Plus their young players are tie with huge salaries as well so I don't know how Miami can get away with that one. And if ever they do trade, will Butler and Paul click? I mean two players with large ego, we have seen it didn't last in Houston with Harden and Paul.

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Quote from: Bttzed03 on September 23, 2019, 10:47:14 PM

Some trade rumors going on:

Andre Iguodala will not be participating in the Memphis Grizzlies training camp. According to this report, both sides have a mutual agreement as Grizzlies is also pursuing for a trade.

It looks like Andre is not willing to play for a non-championship contender. I want to see him in a Clippers uniform.

There were early rumours that Lakers are pursuing Iggy, but I don't know what happen, it seems the rumour just die down. Might be good if he can suit up with the Clippers. But I don't know the players that the Clippers are willing to give up at this time just to get Iggy. They have settled already and already looking to contend this seasons for a NBA ring. But we will see, if Clippers needs someone to defend, give them points when needed and of course the experience Iggy can bring to the Clippers squad.

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Quote from: Bttzed03 on September 23, 2019, 10:47:14 PM

Some news sources says Miami Heat is also considering trading for Chris Paul. I don't know who they are planning to give up but with Paul's contract, it's probably going to be two or three players.

Paul will have more success if he will play with the Miami Heat, they don't have a star player anymore and I think Paul might also consider playing in a team.

The OKC Thunder are now rebuilding, they would want a younger player in exchange of Paul as even if they will have Paul, it's not certain that they will be a playoff contender this coming season, Paul on the other hard could give a chance for the Heat to be in the playoffs as in the East, there's no much good teams compared to the West.

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Quote from: Reid on September 23, 2019, 04:45:08 PM

Looks like they have discovered something new to haste the process or there could be some medical equipment more advance in New York?
I dont know. I am just speculating.

That's true. Even Klay says, he loves the medial technology today, from surgery to the rehabilitation process. It hastens the recovery and cuts the usual time of recovery period. For let's say for a serious knee injury, from 12-15 months down 5 to 7 months after the surgery with proper medication and rest. For Achilles, maybe we just have to self-estimate how long the period since it also depends on the physical status of a player.

Quote from: Bttzed03 on September 23, 2019, 10:47:14 PM

It looks like Andre is not willing to play for a non-championship contender. I want to see him in a Clippers uniform.

From the start right he landed on the team, Memphis didn't have any plan to keep Iggy.

Iggy knows that already and he is waiting for the move.

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