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September 27, 2019, 03:04:18 AM
For years, some NBA players lied about their height. They can’t anymore.

Kevin Durant is listed as 6-foot-9 but claims he's 6-11, and soon we'll know for sure what number is correct.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/2019/09/27/years-some-nba-players-lied-about-their-height-they-cant-anymore/

Well I don't see any issues with that, we have heard many players as well "faking" their height.

Durant can still be effective whatever his height is, I mean we have seen his grow and evolved as one of the best NBA players.

Doesn't change a bit if a player lied about their height on not, it's how they contribute and how their career goes.
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September 27, 2019, 02:59:16 AM
The spurs are rebuilding. Last season was a bit unexpected for me as i still believed they're a decent contender in the west. Give this team a chance to jell and they'll be back in the thick of contention in the west, trust pop yo make sure of that. Curious how Kawhi and PG's arrival in LA pushed the team to be the top contender for the title. It's still anybodys pick if you're rooting for a western team.
Spurs not rebuilding IMO, they only traded a few players to get DeRozan which is an all star player as well.
If DeRozan would improve this season, Spurs might become a great contender in the West, its good to put some bet on this team as until now its still undervalued.
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September 27, 2019, 02:45:22 AM
1. LA Clippers
2. LA Lakers
3. Golden State Warriors
4. Philadelphia 76ers
5. Milwaukee Bucks
6. Utah Jazz
7. Houston Rockets

I have no real problems with the other six. Remove the Jazz and replace them with the Nuggets. What the heck is the writer of the article thinking when he said the Nuggets were overachievers last season? I like Donovan Mitchel and Mike Conley but the guys from Denver are still superior as a team.

It's quite strange to see the Spurs not getting picked as a contender. 

While i agree that Nuggets  should have been on the list, i don't agree about Jazz, they deserve the spot as well.This summer they did good job, both Conley and Bogdanovic should complement their main players Mitchell and Gobert nicely, spreading the floor will help them a lot.

Yeah, it is strange not to see Spurs on the list, considering they were the  most consistent NBA team in the last 20 years or so.

The spurs are rebuilding. Last season was a bit unexpected for me as i still believed they're a decent contender in the west. Give this team a chance to jell and they'll be back in the thick of contention in the west, trust pop yo make sure of that. Curious how Kawhi and PG's arrival in LA pushed the team to be the top contender for the title. It's still anybodys pick if you're rooting for a western team.
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September 27, 2019, 02:32:32 AM
1. LA Clippers
2. LA Lakers
3. Golden State Warriors
4. Philadelphia 76ers
5. Milwaukee Bucks
6. Utah Jazz
7. Houston Rockets

I have no real problems with the other six. Remove the Jazz and replace them with the Nuggets. What the heck is the writer of the article thinking when he said the Nuggets were overachievers last season? I like Donovan Mitchel and Mike Conley but the guys from Denver are still superior as a team.

It's quite strange to see the Spurs not getting picked as a contender. 

While i agree that Nuggets  should have been on the list, i don't agree about Jazz, they deserve the spot as well.This summer they did good job, both Conley and Bogdanovic should complement their main players Mitchell and Gobert nicely, spreading the floor will help them a lot.

Yeah, it is strange not to see Spurs on the list, considering they were the  most consistent NBA team in the last 20 years or so.
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September 27, 2019, 02:05:10 AM
1. LA Clippers
2. LA Lakers
3. Golden State Warriors
4. Philadelphia 76ers
5. Milwaukee Bucks
6. Utah Jazz
7. Houston Rockets

I have no real problems with the other six. Remove the Jazz and replace them with the Nuggets. What the heck is the writer of the article thinking when he said the Nuggets were overachievers last season? I like Donovan Mitchel and Mike Conley but the guys from Denver are still superior as a team.

It's quite strange to see the Spurs not getting picked as a contender. 

I don't like Jazz too, they are not consistent, but with conley and Bojan Bogdanovic being in the team now, I think this will be a different Jazz.
They have a good point guard now who brings success on the Memphis with  Gasol and Zach Randolph, now he brings his talent to the Jazz which is also a defensive team, I think they really have a shot this coming season.
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September 27, 2019, 01:55:56 AM
1. LA Clippers
2. LA Lakers
3. Golden State Warriors
4. Philadelphia 76ers
5. Milwaukee Bucks
6. Utah Jazz
7. Houston Rockets

I have no real problems with the other six. Remove the Jazz and replace them with the Nuggets. What the heck is the writer of the article thinking when he said the Nuggets were overachievers last season? I like Donovan Mitchel and Mike Conley but the guys from Denver are still superior as a team.

It's quite strange to see the Spurs not getting picked as a contender. 
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September 27, 2019, 01:49:10 AM

I agree, it's not so much about ball hog, it's a type of ay.  Some people can only play with the ball in their hands and others do better off the ball, it's why steph and klay work so well.  Harden and Westbrook's together is a hail mary by their management.  Without Westbrook they know they couldnt compete so they had to do something just dont know if this was the wisest move

I have the same bad imagination by now.
Is that really the wisest move? Are there no options left?
A ball hog to a ball hog?
The Rockets management is really giving Mike D'Antoni a headache. Now, he needs to make a play for the two and pray that they will not be stealing each other balls when in the game. Grin

For us it looks like a stupid decision by the management, but I know these players are professional and they will always play based on the game plan.
They cannot dictate their own well here, they are paid really high to not follow the coach, this coming season is gonna be their first season together, so they have to prove to the management and to the people that they can play together to give success to the Rockets that has failed many times against the Warriors.

Yeah.
Somehow it pumped me up and want to see the first game of the Rockets this coming October.
I just cannot see the chemistry and also the give and take for the two.
Some analyst say, Harden should pass the fire to Westbrook.
Why? Because Westbrook doesnt have the catch and shoot thing unlike Melo. Some say the other way around. But, what will Westbrook do while Harden is dribbling the ball 1000 times per play. Grin
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September 27, 2019, 01:48:41 AM
I will assume the supermax contract should not over a 5-year deal. I remember GSW's Steph Curry is currently on a supermax contract. Never heard of 6 or more or maybe I just missed it. Just someone corrects me here if I'm wrong but I'm sure there's no direct 6-year deal supermax contract up to date. It should be an extension.
I think there is no minimum on supermax deals if I am not wrong. I could be but it could be 1 year supermax deal, but the definitely known part is 4 years max because there is no 5 year anymore, not on supermax but any contracts.

You can definitely have extensions, if a player is on supermax and at the end of the deal doesn't qualify, you just extend his supermax another year or two and he basically gets 5-6 years of supermax deal. However, currently I think there are rarely any players that deserves that type of 6 year supermax deals, sure we can all count at least 10 players but there is 30 teams so not all teams have supermax worthy guys, specially not 6 years.

Even the best players become good at around 26 or so at the youngest and when you give them 6 years that makes them 32, barring injuries they probably will be still good at 32 but that is a risk you take, over 30 is always a risky period riddled with injuries.
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September 27, 2019, 01:28:46 AM
Which team do you think will win in the coming season NBA finals?

According to the site, https://www.sbnation.com/nba/2019/7/8/20685074/nba-championship-contenders-2020-ranked

They predict "7 NBA championship contenders, ranked" and the lists are:

1. LA Clippers
2. LA Lakers
3. Golden State Warriors
4. Philadelphia 76ers
5. Milwaukee Bucks
6. Utah Jazz
7. Houston Rockets

Do you agree that nets are not part of this ranking, and Rockets being the last in ranking?
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September 27, 2019, 01:22:58 AM
For years, some NBA players lied about their height. They can’t anymore.

I doubt if they can really lie on their height when its visible and a player can easily get measured.
This is funny, maybe they can lie with their injury of health but not their height for the above mentioned reason.

Durant at 6"9' is still one of the best in the NBA, with his height, he is very fast and he can shoot the ball very well.
I wish we can see a new Durant with the same athleticism and a good accuracy in shooting the ball.
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September 27, 2019, 12:16:22 AM
Honestly, I didn't follow Bucks for years until Giannis came to the team. He's now the face of the team and they should do everything to keep and make the boy the entire attraction of the team. Having a tandem with Giannis would be a good addition to the team but who could that be? someone who can play and have a connection with him. Two Lopez's are already on the team and there's Korver. Only few superstars doesn't have a team until now, maybe Melo?

When Giannis came to the team, Bucks isn't one of the noticeable teams and continue to be like that on the following seasons. But during that off-night season, Giannis worked hard and finally after 3 seasons with the Bucks, he now earned the Most Improved Player award and the rest is history. That's also the time when Bucks have a good pick on Malcolm Brogdon which became the Rookie of the Year that season although he was traded now to another team.

I don't see Bucks as good when it comes to trade. They didn't mostly involve in catching a big fish. Bucks really have a good decision picking this young guy and I think they already saw the potential of him that's why they offer long year contract back then.

I like how they are building the team, only one or two superstar/s and all remained are role players. But I don't know how long they will rely on that process in the purpose of getting the NBA title.

Main problem for the teams like Milwaukee Bucks or Denver Nuggets when it comes to attracting free agent stars is that they are small market. So players are less inclined to join, while teams from  cities like New York and especially Los Angeles don't have issues with that at all.

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September 26, 2019, 10:35:57 PM
For years, some NBA players lied about their height. They can’t anymore.
What's the implication of this lying about how tall they are? I have never heard of any past and current NBA players getting fined for not disclosing their true height. Besides, I think the teams they are playing against are already familiar with their actual height.

This is actually the funniest part of the article:
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I came over with a passport,” Hield, who is from the Bahamas, told NBC Sports Bay Area. “My passport has 1992 on it. My driver’s license has 1992 on it. I just think people got their information from Wikipedia or wherever, and they just went with it. They just got it wrong.
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September 26, 2019, 09:59:07 PM
For years, some NBA players lied about their height. They can’t anymore.

Kevin Durant is listed as 6-foot-9 but claims he's 6-11, and soon we'll know for sure what number is correct.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/2019/09/27/years-some-nba-players-lied-about-their-height-they-cant-anymore/
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September 26, 2019, 08:40:21 PM

I agree, it's not so much about ball hog, it's a type of ay.  Some people can only play with the ball in their hands and others do better off the ball, it's why steph and klay work so well.  Harden and Westbrook's together is a hail mary by their management.  Without Westbrook they know they couldnt compete so they had to do something just dont know if this was the wisest move

I have the same bad imagination by now.
Is that really the wisest move? Are there no options left?
A ball hog to a ball hog?
The Rockets management is really giving Mike D'Antoni a headache. Now, he needs to make a play for the two and pray that they will not be stealing each other balls when in the game. Grin
I thought the same thing so maybe what will happen is that only one of them will enter first the hard court and then when they're leading the other one will substitute in order to maintain their lead and have some rest for the other one at the same time. Or maybe when in crucial situations they're both in and this could make their opponents confused on who must they prioritize since both of them can do winning shots. Let's gind out. 

Actually, I posted a meme here months ago regarding the issue of "ball hogging" and it's so hilarious Grin. I hope that won't happen, what I'm holding right now is the fact they became good teammates in OKC before Grin.
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September 26, 2019, 06:59:29 PM
I have the same bad imagination by now.
Is that really the wisest move? Are there no options left?
A ball hog to a ball hog?
The Rockets management is really giving Mike D'Antoni a headache. Now, he needs to make a play for the two and pray that they will not be stealing each other balls when in the game. Grin

Yeah, that will be a tough playmaking for D'Antoni.

Westbrook allows Paul George to be the main man for OKC last season even he is the usual main center of their plays. I'm sure he will do the same with the Rockets (I hope). And maybe there are better options, it's just that HOU found a deal first with the OKC as they want a quick trade for Chris Paul.

Mike D' Antoni will surely be given a recognition once he was able to blend this ball-hoggers properly lol.
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September 26, 2019, 06:53:55 PM

I agree, it's not so much about ball hog, it's a type of ay.  Some people can only play with the ball in their hands and others do better off the ball, it's why steph and klay work so well.  Harden and Westbrook's together is a hail mary by their management.  Without Westbrook they know they couldnt compete so they had to do something just dont know if this was the wisest move

I have the same bad imagination by now.
Is that really the wisest move? Are there no options left?
A ball hog to a ball hog?
The Rockets management is really giving Mike D'Antoni a headache. Now, he needs to make a play for the two and pray that they will not be stealing each other balls when in the game. Grin

I guess relying to another superstar is their only options left. Harden and Westbrook has the same style of playing and both are stat padding from the past seasons, but we cant deny that these guys has really a crazy talent, from driving down the lane, creating their own shot, to hitting tightly contested 3's.
Im also wondering how these two play together. I mean those OKC days were different from today. Who's gonna take the spotlight? Im guessing Westbrook will give way to Harden and adjust his style of playing in Harden's rythm, if it didnt work, Westbrook will take over.
Even the fans were puzzled how the Rockets management execute a good offensive play with these two on the samme team.
It should be Harden that will still be the face of the team, even at the times when Durant was joined the Warriors and he mostly generate points to the team compared to Curry but the fans are still loyal to Curry, when Durant was traded, there's not much of complain we hear from the fans, its like its a normal thing and we even love to see the old warriors, but if its curry that is traded, its a different story.

Speaking of westbrook, he was also the face of the OKC, but he struggled last season and it was PG who lift the team to be in the playoffs and give a good series to the Blazers.
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September 26, 2019, 06:36:45 PM

I agree, it's not so much about ball hog, it's a type of ay.  Some people can only play with the ball in their hands and others do better off the ball, it's why steph and klay work so well.  Harden and Westbrook's together is a hail mary by their management.  Without Westbrook they know they couldnt compete so they had to do something just dont know if this was the wisest move

I have the same bad imagination by now.
Is that really the wisest move? Are there no options left?
A ball hog to a ball hog?
The Rockets management is really giving Mike D'Antoni a headache. Now, he needs to make a play for the two and pray that they will not be stealing each other balls when in the game. Grin

I guess relying to another superstar is their only options left. Harden and Westbrook has the same style of playing and both are stat padding from the past seasons, but we cant deny that these guys has really a crazy talent, from driving down the lane, creating their own shot, to hitting tightly contested 3's.
Im also wondering how these two play together. I mean those OKC days were different from today. Who's gonna take the spotlight? Im guessing Westbrook will give way to Harden and adjust his style of playing in Harden's rythm, if it didnt work, Westbrook will take over.
Even the fans were puzzled how the Rockets management execute a good offensive play with these two on the samme team.
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September 26, 2019, 05:18:12 PM

I agree, it's not so much about ball hog, it's a type of ay.  Some people can only play with the ball in their hands and others do better off the ball, it's why steph and klay work so well.  Harden and Westbrook's together is a hail mary by their management.  Without Westbrook they know they couldnt compete so they had to do something just dont know if this was the wisest move

I have the same bad imagination by now.
Is that really the wisest move? Are there no options left?
A ball hog to a ball hog?
The Rockets management is really giving Mike D'Antoni a headache. Now, he needs to make a play for the two and pray that they will not be stealing each other balls when in the game. Grin

For us it looks like a stupid decision by the management, but I know these players are professional and they will always play based on the game plan.
They cannot dictate their own well here, they are paid really high to not follow the coach, this coming season is gonna be their first season together, so they have to prove to the management and to the people that they can play together to give success to the Rockets that has failed many times against the Warriors.
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September 26, 2019, 04:59:28 PM

I agree, it's not so much about ball hog, it's a type of ay.  Some people can only play with the ball in their hands and others do better off the ball, it's why steph and klay work so well.  Harden and Westbrook's together is a hail mary by their management.  Without Westbrook they know they couldnt compete so they had to do something just dont know if this was the wisest move

I have the same bad imagination by now.
Is that really the wisest move? Are there no options left?
A ball hog to a ball hog?
The Rockets management is really giving Mike D'Antoni a headache. Now, he needs to make a play for the two and pray that they will not be stealing each other balls when in the game. Grin
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September 26, 2019, 04:39:08 PM
Kris Middleton is a real nice piece.  He might not be the biggest name in the game but he is really good and a big reason why the bucks are decent.  I think they locked him up for a couple of years as well.  The knicks could use a guy like Middleton who isnt first fiddle but a close second
I've seen that news just now published months ago.

Don't talk about pairing melo with Giannis. Melo would only ruin Giannis career if they would be team up in the Bucks. They already has Middleton which I think fit to be Giannis tandem and they only needs chemistry to fully unlock their potential as the one two punch of the Bucks.
It's okay bud, I'm just asking on who are the superstars that are still free until now. And he's the guy that came to my mind, don't hate the guy he's still teamless today and many legends are pushing him to give him a chance.

When Giannis came to the team, Bucks isn't one of the noticeable teams and continue to be like that on the following seasons. But during that off-night season, Giannis worked hard and finally after 3 seasons with the Bucks, he now earned the Most Improved Player award and the rest is history. That's also the time when Bucks have a good pick on Malcolm Brogdon which became the Rookie of the Year that season although he was traded now to another team.

I don't see Bucks as good when it comes to trade. They didn't mostly involve in catching a big fish. Bucks really have a good decision picking this young guy and I think they already saw the potential of him that's why they offer long year contract back then.

I like how they are building the team, only one or two superstar/s and all remained are role players. But I don't know how long they will rely on that process in the purpose of getting the NBA title.
He's still young way back then and I didn't really follow their games but the name of Giannis exploded and everyone took notice of this young superstar.
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