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Quote from: narcopop on September 27, 2019, 07:34:49 AM

Lakers are still a big IF...

If LeBron cooperates with AD.

IF AD stays healthy.

IF the rest of the team knows its place in the system.

IF the role players deliver.

IF Kyle Kuzma makes another step in his career.

Thats a lot "ifs" and not so much axioms. They can win the league and didn't make it to the playoffs again as well. It is indeed a big gamble with this team.

Let's pass all of those ifs to the upcoming season and let's see if they will click this time. Lakers isn't really impressive for the last season and it made Lebron lifting a heavy weight. Same assumptions came last time when Lebron was finally transferring to Lakers.
We can all think of those ifs but we can't do anything about it but to wait and let their performance for this season decide.

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Quote from: Reid on September 26, 2019, 04:59:28 PM

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I agree, it's not so much about ball hog, it's a type of ay. Some people can only play with the ball in their hands and others do better off the ball, it's why steph and klay work so well. Harden and Westbrook's together is a hail mary by their management. Without Westbrook they know they couldnt compete so they had to do something just dont know if this was the wisest move

I have the same bad imagination by now.
Is that really the wisest move? Are there no options left?
A ball hog to a ball hog?
The Rockets management is really giving Mike D'Antoni a headache. Now, he needs to make a play for the two and pray that they will not be stealing each other balls when in the game. Grin

This is perfect for mike dantonio and his system Cheesy

. Dude runs a system where the more posessions the better. He tried it on the knicks when he was coaching them but didnt work at all

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Quote from: sana54210 on September 27, 2019, 12:04:08 PM

I still think people are over hyping Utah Jazz, they are not as good as people think they are. Sure, they have some good players but they are not a great team all together, chemistry plays a big role plus having a system helps a ton as well.

They are just bunch of not bad players all together, mike Conley is not the best pg, Spida is not the best sg, crowder is not the best sf, favors is not the best pf, gobert is not the best C, they are people who have zero best players in their positions and probably not even top 5 in most of them as well. I would say clippers have a big chance of getting it this year if they don't get injured, which would put Kawhi into one of the biggest jumps of player rankings ever, I would start to see him as top 20 ever in history if he gets it this year as well.

Gobert is Most Defensive Player of the year.
You forgot about that.

Also, you are looking more at offense. That is one sided.
Both should be played and Utah had been one of the most defensive team also. Actually, the number 1.

That is just too much for underestimating this team and also their coach.
They will not play in playoffs if not for that. Defense wins championship. I have already told that here.
Utah is just lacking something because they cannot do defense only everytime. It will be exhausting.

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I still think people are over hyping Utah Jazz, they are not as good as people think they are. Sure, they have some good players but they are not a great team all together, chemistry plays a big role plus having a system helps a ton as well.

They are just bunch of not bad players all together, mike Conley is not the best pg, Spida is not the best sg, crowder is not the best sf, favors is not the best pf, gobert is not the best C, they are people who have zero best players in their positions and probably not even top 5 in most of them as well. I would say clippers have a big chance of getting it this year if they don't get injured, which would put Kawhi into one of the biggest jumps of player rankings ever, I would start to see him as top 20 ever in history if he gets it this year as well.

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Quote from: narcopop on September 27, 2019, 07:34:49 AM

Lakers are still a big IF...

If LeBron cooperates with AD.

IF AD stays healthy.

IF the rest of the team knows its place in the system.

IF the role players deliver.

IF Kyle Kuzma makes another step in his career.

Thats a lot "ifs" and not so much axioms. They can win the league and didn't make it to the playoffs again as well. It is indeed a big gamble with this team.

Those "If's" will be concluded when the season started, coaches will play the big role here to make sure that the blends and the conditioning efforts will bring the entire squad to work together. Leadership can be provided by the King and knowing how close AD and LBJ it won't be hard for them to play alongside, with the rest, it's rondo who's there to command the game he's a veteran and knows how to deal with players.

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Quote from: Bttzed03 on September 27, 2019, 07:17:17 AM

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Quote from: Natalim on September 27, 2019, 01:28:46 AM

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Putting Lakers that high eh? Are we not forgetting that most starters in this team will be playing with each other for the first time? Same case with Clippers but Kahwi and George can easily blend in. Dark horses for next season are Nuggets, Blazers, and maybe Nets.

So you are saying Lebron and Davis will not blend?

Don't forget that Lebron although he failed last season he is still the king Jame we know.
Once they will blend effectively the Lakers might dominate the West, for me Davis and Lebron is a better combo that Kawhi and Paul George or WB and Harden.

Lebron, Davis, Green, Kuzma won't be blending that quickly. You can also throw in Howard to the equation. It's not just about the duo but the whole team that's why I said most starters.

Forget about Harden and Westbrook. They deserve to be last on that list.

Among the players you've mentioned, only Lebron and Davis are in their MVP level, Howard was not given a good contract and that pretty explains on what his status now. Green and Kuzma won't lead the team but Lebron and Davis can lead the team like when Lebron and Wade were playing in the heat before.

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Quote from: Bttzed03 on September 27, 2019, 07:17:17 AM

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Quote from: Natalim on September 27, 2019, 01:28:46 AM

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Putting Lakers that high eh? Are we not forgetting that most starters in this team will be playing with each other for the first time? Same case with Clippers but Kahwi and George can easily blend in. Dark horses for next season are Nuggets, Blazers, and maybe Nets.

So you are saying Lebron and Davis will not blend?

Don't forget that Lebron although he failed last season he is still the king Jame we know.
Once they will blend effectively the Lakers might dominate the West, for me Davis and Lebron is a better combo that Kawhi and Paul George or WB and Harden.

Lebron, Davis, Green, Kuzma won't be blending that quickly. You can also throw in Howard to the equation. It's not just about the duo but the whole team that's why I said most starters.

Forget about Harden and Westbrook. They deserve to be last on that list.

Lakers are still a big IF...

If LeBron cooperates with AD.

IF AD stays healthy.

IF the rest of the team knows its place in the system.

IF the role players deliver.

IF Kyle Kuzma makes another step in his career.

Thats a lot "ifs" and not so much axioms. They can win the league and didn't make it to the playoffs again as well. It is indeed a big gamble with this team.

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Quote from: mich on September 26, 2019, 09:59:07 PM

For years, some NBA players lied about their height. They can’t anymore.

What's the implication of this lying about how tall they are? I have never heard of any past and current NBA players getting fined for not disclosing their true height. Besides, I think the teams they are playing against are already familiar with their actual height.

I don't know what will be the downside of this issue but like you, I'm also very curious to know things and its consequences like this. Maybe they are not taking it seriously and they can reason out that it's just a simple mistake that happens usually when inputting information through their database.
Who knows? but if someone who's more technical and has a better thought about this, I'd love to read it.

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Quote from: stadus on September 27, 2019, 07:11:18 AM

Quote from: Bttzed03 on September 27, 2019, 06:51:53 AM

Quote from: Natalim on September 27, 2019, 01:28:46 AM

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Putting Lakers that high eh? Are we not forgetting that most starters in this team will be playing with each other for the first time? Same case with Clippers but Kahwi and George can easily blend in. Dark horses for next season are Nuggets, Blazers, and maybe Nets.

So you are saying Lebron and Davis will not blend?

Don't forget that Lebron although he failed last season he is still the king Jame we know.
Once they will blend effectively the Lakers might dominate the West, for me Davis and Lebron is a better combo that Kawhi and Paul George or WB and Harden.

Lebron, Davis, Green, Kuzma won't be blending that quickly. You can also throw in Howard to the equation. It's not just about the duo but the whole team that's why I said most starters.

Forget about Harden and Westbrook. They deserve to be last on that list.

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Quote from: Natalim on September 27, 2019, 01:28:46 AM

They predict "7 NBA championship contenders, ranked" and the lists are:

1. LA Clippers
2. LA Lakers
3. Golden State Warriors
4. Philadelphia 76ers
5. Milwaukee Bucks
6. Utah Jazz
7. Houston Rockets

Putting Lakers that high eh? Are we not forgetting that most starters in this team will be playing with each other for the first time? Same case with Clippers but Kahwi and George can easily blend in. Dark horses for next season are Nuggets, Blazers, and maybe Nets.

So you are saying Lebron and Davis will not blend?

Don't forget that Lebron although he failed last season he is still the king Jame we know.
Once they will blend effectively the Lakers might dominate the West, for me Davis and Lebron is a better combo that Kawhi and Paul George or WB and Harden.

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Quote from: Natalim on September 27, 2019, 01:28:46 AM

They predict "7 NBA championship contenders, ranked" and the lists are:

1. LA Clippers
2. LA Lakers
3. Golden State Warriors
4. Philadelphia 76ers
5. Milwaukee Bucks
6. Utah Jazz
7. Houston Rockets

Putting Lakers that high eh? Are we not forgetting that most starters in this team will be playing with each other for the first time? Same case with Clippers but Kahwi and George can easily blend in. Dark horses for next season are Nuggets, Blazers, and maybe Nets.

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Quote from: Yaunfitda on September 27, 2019, 03:04:18 AM

Quote from: mich on September 26, 2019, 09:59:07 PM

For years, some NBA players lied about their height. They can’t anymore.

Kevin Durant is listed as 6-foot-9 but claims he's 6-11, and soon we'll know for sure what number is correct.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/2019/09/27/years-some-nba-players-lied-about-their-height-they-cant-anymore/

Well I don't see any issues with that, we have heard many players as well "faking" their height.

Durant can still be effective whatever his height is, I mean we have seen his grow and evolved as one of the best NBA players.

Doesn't change a bit if a player lied about their height on not, it's how they contribute and how their career goes.

Even he lied about his height but his effectiveness playing whatever designated position he got is not limiting his capabilities. He's playing great and now being acknowledged as one of the faces of this league. KD's stardom is still at his prime, the dedication and dominance from his co-players is being acknowledged.

Height will not interfere if the player is effective doing his job and excelling from the other players around this league.

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Quote from: Natalim on September 27, 2019, 01:28:46 AM

Which team do you think will win in the coming season NBA finals?

According to the site, https://www.sbnation.com/nba/2019/7/8/20685074/nba-championship-contenders-2020-ranked

They predict "7 NBA championship contenders, ranked" and the lists are:

1. LA Clippers
2. LA Lakers
3. Golden State Warriors
4. Philadelphia 76ers
5. Milwaukee Bucks
6. Utah Jazz
7. Houston Rockets

Do you agree that nets are not part of this ranking, and Rockets being the last in ranking?

The Nets without KD is not a title contender that maybe the reason why analyst did not put the Nets on the list, Kyrie Irving can't do it alone, we have seen that last season with the Celtics.

ROcket's chance is slim and it depends on how Harden and Westbrook would jell. If the output is positive on the first ten games of the Rockets then that list would change, Rockets would be next to the Lakers IMO.

Make sense not to add Nets because we all know that KD is still out with his injuries.

Maybe the one and two position can interchange, Lakers with Lebron and AD on top.

Milwaukee should be number 4 though in my opinion, they still have the reigning MVP and they could definitely improved a lot this year.

Houston still depends on those two, Westbrook and Harden, if they started to blend early, they could be contenders as well.

Philadelphia 76ers should not be in the list, maybe it's wise to add Blazers as they were also a good team, if they have their center fully healthy this playoffs, they are also a good contender. Nets is not included because although there is a chance that Durant will be healthy again but its the nets shutting him down for the next season.

This is a new one - https://ftw.usatoday.com/2019/09/nets-kevin-durant-out-season-expectations

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Quote from: bisdak40 on September 27, 2019, 03:46:24 AM

Quote from: Natalim on September 27, 2019, 01:28:46 AM

Which team do you think will win in the coming season NBA finals?

According to the site, https://www.sbnation.com/nba/2019/7/8/20685074/nba-championship-contenders-2020-ranked

They predict "7 NBA championship contenders, ranked" and the lists are:

1. LA Clippers
2. LA Lakers
3. Golden State Warriors
4. Philadelphia 76ers
5. Milwaukee Bucks
6. Utah Jazz
7. Houston Rockets

Do you agree that nets are not part of this ranking, and Rockets being the last in ranking?

The Nets without KD is not a title contender that maybe the reason why analyst did not put the Nets on the list, Kyrie Irving can't do it alone, we have seen that last season with the Celtics.

ROcket's chance is slim and it depends on how Harden and Westbrook would jell. If the output is positive on the first ten games of the Rockets then that list would change, Rockets would be next to the Lakers IMO.

Make sense not to add Nets because we all know that KD is still out with his injuries.

Maybe the one and two position can interchange, Lakers with Lebron and AD on top.

Milwaukee should be number 4 though in my opinion, they still have the reigning MVP and they could definitely improved a lot this year.

Houston still depends on those two, Westbrook and Harden, if they started to blend early, they could be contenders as well.

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Quote from: Natalim on September 27, 2019, 01:28:46 AM

Which team do you think will win in the coming season NBA finals?

According to the site, https://www.sbnation.com/nba/2019/7/8/20685074/nba-championship-contenders-2020-ranked

They predict "7 NBA championship contenders, ranked" and the lists are:

1. LA Clippers
2. LA Lakers
3. Golden State Warriors
4. Philadelphia 76ers
5. Milwaukee Bucks
6. Utah Jazz
7. Houston Rockets

Do you agree that nets are not part of this ranking, and Rockets being the last in ranking?

It's most likely accurate to make clippers the top one to take the championship this coming season since they have Kawhi. But considering this would change one injury took place to key players along this 82 games to be played by each team. So anything can happen as the matches goes by.

Same thing could happen with other teams, but let's not hope for any injuries here, the game would be fun and exciting if all the important players are healthy and playing. We don't want to hear the same scenario like the on the result of Warriors vs Raptors outcome, people would always say that Toronto is just lucky to win because Klay and Durant were injured.

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Quote from: Natalim on September 27, 2019, 01:28:46 AM

Which team do you think will win in the coming season NBA finals?

According to the site, https://www.sbnation.com/nba/2019/7/8/20685074/nba-championship-contenders-2020-ranked

They predict "7 NBA championship contenders, ranked" and the lists are:

1. LA Clippers
2. LA Lakers
3. Golden State Warriors
4. Philadelphia 76ers
5. Milwaukee Bucks
6. Utah Jazz
7. Houston Rockets

Do you agree that nets are not part of this ranking, and Rockets being the last in ranking?

It's most likely accurate to make clippers the top one to take the championship this coming season since they have Kawhi. But considering this would change one injury took place to key players along this 82 games to be played by each team. So anything can happen as the matches goes by.

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Quote from: Natalim on September 27, 2019, 01:28:46 AM

Which team do you think will win in the coming season NBA finals?

According to the site, https://www.sbnation.com/nba/2019/7/8/20685074/nba-championship-contenders-2020-ranked

They predict "7 NBA championship contenders, ranked" and the lists are:

1. LA Clippers
2. LA Lakers
3. Golden State Warriors
4. Philadelphia 76ers
5. Milwaukee Bucks
6. Utah Jazz
7. Houston Rockets

Do you agree that nets are not part of this ranking, and Rockets being the last in ranking?

The Nets without KD is not a title contender that maybe the reason why analyst did not put the Nets on the list, Kyrie Irving can't do it alone, we have seen that last season with the Celtics.

ROcket's chance is slim and it depends on how Harden and Westbrook would jell. If the output is positive on the first ten games of the Rockets then that list would change, Rockets would be next to the Lakers IMO.

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Quote from: Sanitough on September 27, 2019, 02:59:16 AM

Spurs not rebuilding IMO, they only traded a few players to get DeRozan which is an all star player as well.
If DeRozan would improve this season, Spurs might become a great contender in the West, its good to put some bet on this team as until now its still undervalued.

Demar is that kind of player whom we all know that's good but not that good. Demar played in Toronto for almost a decade and couldn't make it to the league finals. And what Kawhi did? He went to Toronto and win the championship in his first year with Raptors. That's a slight difference between an All-Star-calibre player and a franchise player.

Demar is still a really great player though, but maybe he's not a championship-kind of player.

We cannot make that kind of comparison, there are a lot factors that makes the journey of Torontol easier in the last season.
First, Lebron transferred to the west, 2nd they acquired Gasol, and 3rd they face a GSW's team which are not fully healthy, if Durant and Klay played it would be a different story.

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Quote from: Sanitough on September 27, 2019, 02:59:16 AM

Spurs not rebuilding IMO, they only traded a few players to get DeRozan which is an all star player as well.
If DeRozan would improve this season, Spurs might become a great contender in the West, its good to put some bet on this team as until now its still undervalued.

Demar is that kind of player whom we all know that's good but not that good. Demar played in Toronto for almost a decade and couldn't make it to the league finals. And what Kawhi did? He went to Toronto and win the championship in his first year with Raptors. That's a slight difference between an All-Star-calibre player and a franchise player.

Demar is still a really great player though, but maybe he's not a championship-kind of player.

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Quote from: Natalim on September 27, 2019, 01:28:46 AM

Do you agree that nets are not part of this ranking,

As much as I want to disagree, we can't hide the fact that Nets being a champion next season only have a slim chance.

We have seen Kyrie in a much dominant team last season but their team just got swept by the Bucks last playoffs (I considered it as a sweep although Celtics got the Game 1). Celtics is the favorites to win in the Eastern Conference last season.

Maybe on 2020-21 season, people can put a shot at Nets to win a championship once Durant is 100% healthy and if they did some roster overhaul catching some good role players. But take note that other teams surely will make some move too.

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