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September 14, 2019, 05:48:29 AM
Three-time NBA champion Shaun Livingston announces retirement after 15-year career

"I’m excited, sad, fortunate and grateful all in one breath," Livingston wrote. "Hard to put into a caption all of the emotions it takes to try and accomplish your dreams."
https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nba/warriors/2019/09/13/nba-golden-state-warriors-shaun-livingston-retires-after-15-years/2311279001/
It may be a year or two early but given what he has contributed to the game and the achievement he had in recent years, I guess it's fine to hang it up. He did really well.
Every NBA player aim to be a champion as that is the greatest achievement, there are NBA stars who retire without even winning one championship, but Livingston has 3 championship, and we can see that during that time, he contributed well to the team as a 2nd unit.

At the trend that we are seeing now, most NBA teams are already investing in younger players and that will minimize the chance of players who are already at 30+ to have a contract, but of course, there's an exception, but you have to play like to Lebron so you will be safe.
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September 14, 2019, 05:47:12 AM
Three-time NBA champion Shaun Livingston announces retirement after 15-year career

"I’m excited, sad, fortunate and grateful all in one breath," Livingston wrote. "Hard to put into a caption all of the emotions it takes to try and accomplish your dreams."
https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nba/warriors/2019/09/13/nba-golden-state-warriors-shaun-livingston-retires-after-15-years/2311279001/



Give this man a break, he deserves it.

Thanks for all your contribution Livingston! Enjoy your life now together with your family with this retirement.
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September 14, 2019, 05:43:39 AM
Three-time NBA champion Shaun Livingston announces retirement after 15-year career

"I’m excited, sad, fortunate and grateful all in one breath," Livingston wrote. "Hard to put into a caption all of the emotions it takes to try and accomplish your dreams."
https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nba/warriors/2019/09/13/nba-golden-state-warriors-shaun-livingston-retires-after-15-years/2311279001/
It may be a year or two early but given what he has contributed to the game and the achievement he had in recent years, I guess it's fine to hang it up. He did really well.
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September 14, 2019, 05:13:11 AM
What they need is an consistent outside shooter, joe's game is more of an inside offense, and we already have Blake in that position which he can do well, and we have Drummond to score in the paint and take care of the rebounds.

In the line up next season, https://www.lineups.com/nba/lineups/detroit-pistons, I don't see a real good shooter here.
But I like the new addition of players, like Derrick Rose and Thon Maker, the rest if there's new, I just don't know them.

Who doesn't want a consistent outside shooter on their team? Detroit Pistons are done now on roster lineup to the point that they signed a late deal to a veteran instead of another. Maybe the deal wasn't a plan.

No need to put high expectations from him as he is not the same as before but as a veteran and we all know that Detroit Pistons doesn't have any progress for several seasons now, I see this veteran as a good addition. He is even way more good compared to their other bench players.
I'm not saying he is a bad addition, I believe he could help but they could have improve their outside shooting so they will improve this coming season.
Detroit Piston with Blake Griffin is an improve team, but they are not consistent, they have a great start but they faded in the long run.

They were in the playoffs last season because they go lucky to be in the last spot, but Griffin was injured so their chance is gone, I can't even remember if they won at least 1 game in the series against Bucks. That being said, I'm expecting their starters to step up and not only reply on Griffin, https://ph.global.nba.com/players/#!/reggie_jackson stats has to improve, he needs to average at least 20 PPG so he will be able to provide spark in the team, and also, he needs to stay healthy as the team needs a good PG.

His current salary now is $18,086,956 (https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/j/jacksre01.html), he is payed well, so its expected  he will provide.
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September 13, 2019, 06:37:34 PM
What they need is an consistent outside shooter, joe's game is more of an inside offense, and we already have Blake in that position which he can do well, and we have Drummond to score in the paint and take care of the rebounds.

In the line up next season, https://www.lineups.com/nba/lineups/detroit-pistons, I don't see a real good shooter here.
But I like the new addition of players, like Derrick Rose and Thon Maker, the rest if there's new, I just don't know them.

Who doesn't want a consistent outside shooter on their team? Detroit Pistons are done now on roster lineup to the point that they signed a late deal to a veteran instead of another. Maybe the deal wasn't a plan.

No need to put high expectations from him as he is not the same as before but as a veteran and we all know that Detroit Pistons doesn't have any progress for several seasons now, I see this veteran as a good addition. He is even way more good compared to their other bench players.
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September 13, 2019, 05:57:42 PM
Three-time NBA champion Shaun Livingston announces retirement after 15-year career

"I’m excited, sad, fortunate and grateful all in one breath," Livingston wrote. "Hard to put into a caption all of the emotions it takes to try and accomplish your dreams."
https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nba/warriors/2019/09/13/nba-golden-state-warriors-shaun-livingston-retires-after-15-years/2311279001/


That's sad, but I'm happy to see hear that he retires with the Warriors, he wasn't able to get a contract so the best thing to do is just to retire.
His contribution with the warriors will not be forgotten, though he was not in the starting line up but being in the 2nd unit, he always showed good effort to help is team, he is a three-time NBA champion, I think he is already an accomplished player, he has nothing to prove anymore.

This guy is not a good 3 point shooter but as a tribute, one of his best 3 point shot in the NBAGrin
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September 13, 2019, 05:22:48 PM
Three-time NBA champion Shaun Livingston announces retirement after 15-year career

"I’m excited, sad, fortunate and grateful all in one breath," Livingston wrote. "Hard to put into a caption all of the emotions it takes to try and accomplish your dreams."
https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nba/warriors/2019/09/13/nba-golden-state-warriors-shaun-livingston-retires-after-15-years/2311279001/


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September 13, 2019, 05:00:53 PM
The Detroit Piston added some shooting power into their bench. Joe Johnson signed up with the team after a successful stint at Ice Cube's Big 3 league. The guy may be old but he can still shoot well. https://www.msn.com/g00/en-us/sports/nba/joe-johnson-signs-with-pistons-after-mvp-stint-in-big3/

Good addition don't you think?

Well he could earn his spot as a shooting guard again since Detroit is being surrounded with big men. Or he could be placed as 2-4 position. Since he played 4th on Jazz, and most of his career playing 2-3. He's a good addition.

Regarding the SI rankings in the NBA, I can't believe they are still snobing Zack Lavine. He came from an ACL injury and came back strong 20+ points per game. Thaddeus Young even got a higher rank than him though lol. Okay so probably some of you will say that he's just for entertaining fans, well dunking like that could light up the stadium and can boost your team's morale.

Joe isnt coming in playing power forward.  I cant remember a time he played power forward.  He will be a shooting guard in spot situations.  Zach lavine is kind of a one way player, his defense is spotty which is why thad is ahead of him.  Scoring 20 a game is nice but being a defensive liability allowing more than 20 a game does no good.  He's young if he focuses on shut down d he has a shot at moving up
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September 13, 2019, 02:40:30 PM
Is this the first time someone goes from NBA to Big 3 and than back to NBA? I heard amare was looked after as well but as far as I know that didn't happen which means Joe Johnson is the first person to go from Big 3 to NBA.

This kinda shows how awesome Big 3 actually is because players like Joe wouldn't have been on the radar of NBA teams if he didn't play there. This means we will see more people who do not get a proper time or minutes or find any contracts in NBA will go to Big 3 to showcase that they still have it and than comeback from Big 3 to NBA eventually when they prove that they are still good.

I would suggest Melo to go to Big 3 as well, at least there he will be great, same goes for any player who will have trouble finding a contract.
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September 13, 2019, 12:54:09 PM
The Detroit Piston added some shooting power into their bench. Joe Johnson signed up with the team after a successful stint at Ice Cube's Big 3 league. The guy may be old but he can still shoot well. https://www.msn.com/g00/en-us/sports/nba/joe-johnson-signs-with-pistons-after-mvp-stint-in-big3/

Good addition don't you think?

Well he could earn his spot as a shooting guard again since Detroit is being surrounded with big men. Or he could be placed as 2-4 position. Since he played 4th on Jazz, and most of his career playing 2-3. He's a good addition.

Regarding the SI rankings in the NBA, I can't believe they are still snobing Zack Lavine. He came from an ACL injury and came back strong 20+ points per game. Thaddeus Young even got a higher rank than him though lol. Okay so probably some of you will say that he's just for entertaining fans, well dunking like that could light up the stadium and can boost your team's morale.
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September 13, 2019, 12:20:33 PM
They need a veteran. That is all I can say.
Maybe his game with Big Three did boost him up but let us see if it will also be seen in the league.

Dont get mad at me. I love this guy. I was a fan when he was blooming at Phoenix Suns where they all run non stop and every possession is like a fast break. Yeah those two years where Steve Nash got a back to back season MVP and they fought well. Just short to get that ring.
For me, he is a good addition. Maybe a wise adviser for the young people there.
Who is mad? lol
I don't expect him to come out and start putting up those numbers like he used to either. He may be a good sub for Blake who carried the team on one leg last season. I'm also interested to see how he will link up with another veteran in D. Rose.

Joe and Blake play two completely different roles on the team though, joe a spot up shooter and Blake a power forward.  Joe will just come in on certain situations where either they need a shot made on a set play or they want to spread the floor and get the defense playing outside to open up the paint.  That would be my guess on his role at this point in his career.
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September 13, 2019, 11:58:34 AM
They need a veteran. That is all I can say.
Maybe his game with Big Three did boost him up but let us see if it will also be seen in the league.

Dont get mad at me. I love this guy. I was a fan when he was blooming at Phoenix Suns where they all run non stop and every possession is like a fast break. Yeah those two years where Steve Nash got a back to back season MVP and they fought well. Just short to get that ring.
For me, he is a good addition. Maybe a wise adviser for the young people there.
Who is mad? lol
I don't expect him to come out and start putting up those numbers like he used to either. He may be a good sub for Blake who carried the team on one leg last season. I'm also interested to see how he will link up with another veteran in D. Rose.
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September 13, 2019, 09:25:45 AM
The Detroit Piston added some shooting power into their bench. Joe Johnson signed up with the team after a successful stint at Ice Cube's Big 3 league. The guy may be old but he can still shoot well. https://www.msn.com/g00/en-us/sports/nba/joe-johnson-signs-with-pistons-after-mvp-stint-in-big3/

Good addition don't you think?


They need a veteran. That is all I can say.
Maybe his game with Big Three did boost him up but let us see if it will also be seen in the league.

Dont get mad at me. I love this guy. I was a fan when he was blooming at Phoenix Suns where they all run non stop and every possession is like a fast break. Yeah those two years where Steve Nash got a back to back season MVP and they fought well. Just short to get that ring.
For me, he is a good addition. Maybe a wise adviser for the young people there.
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September 13, 2019, 08:05:11 AM
The Detroit Piston added some shooting power into their bench. Joe Johnson signed up with the team after a successful stint at Ice Cube's Big 3 league. The guy may be old but he can still shoot well. https://www.msn.com/g00/en-us/sports/nba/joe-johnson-signs-with-pistons-after-mvp-stint-in-big3/

Good addition don't you think?


His last seasons in the NBA are not so impressive, but this guy averages 20 points per game during his days with the Atlanta hawks.
Let's see what he can bring to the table in his new team, I think he will fit with the Pistons as this is a defensive team.

I didn't even know he was out in the NBA, it's just that there are a new of new players coming in and out in the league but I can tell based on what I see, he can contribute with the team, his size his athleticism and his experience will be a great factor.

His days in atlanta are long gone, he will be a bench player that might get 10 minutes a game.  He will be used as a spot up shooter.  Being the big 3 league mvp and a starter in the nba is a huge disparity.  He will bring some leadership to that locker room which you cant see on the stat sheet, I think it's always important to have a player like that on the team that is not a coach but can command the teams respect.  Good for joe always liked his game.
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September 13, 2019, 07:59:31 AM
Top 100 NBA Players of 2020

Can anyone guess who is #1?

https://www.si.com/nba/top-100-nba-players-2020#10-1

GIANNIS ANTETOKOUNMPO was top 1 based on the link, my guess was Kawhi Leonard but the ranking is not bad because he is in top 2.
Maybe this ranking is based on its performance in the past season, and since Giannis is the MVP, he was ranked as top 1, but if you'll ask me, I like Leonard because he is a smart player, and he prove is a GOAT since he gave Toronto Raptors their first championship.

Lebron now is already ranked number 3, he is the king now, lol... Where's king James? Grin

I could see Giannis 1 and Kawhi 2 or the other way around.  Either way they got the top 2 right, after top 5 there tends to be a big drop off.  For joel embid to be top 7 that seems a bit high or the league is a little watered down right now.  Pre season Rankings are always fickle, wait until midway through the season and these rankings will be in a different order, it's just something to look at and talk about while waiting for the season to start. Tongue
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September 13, 2019, 06:32:44 AM
His last seasons in the NBA are not so impressive, but this guy averages 20 points per game during his days with the Atlanta hawks.
Let's see what he can bring to the table in his new team, I think he will fit with the Pistons as this is a defensive team.
He is not going to have the same average for sure but even a half of that coming of the bench will be good for Pistons. They clearly lack shooters last season and Joe can help in that department.
What they need is an consistent outside shooter, joe's game is more of an inside offense, and we already have Blake in that position which he can do well, and we have Drummond to score in the paint and take care of the rebounds.

In the line up next season, https://www.lineups.com/nba/lineups/detroit-pistons, I don't see a real good shooter here.
But I like the new addition of players, like Derrick Rose and Thon Maker, the rest if there's new, I just don't know them.
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September 13, 2019, 04:44:37 AM
His last seasons in the NBA are not so impressive, but this guy averages 20 points per game during his days with the Atlanta hawks.
Let's see what he can bring to the table in his new team, I think he will fit with the Pistons as this is a defensive team.
He is not going to have the same average for sure but even a half of that coming of the bench will be good for Pistons. They clearly lack shooters last season and Joe can help in that department.
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September 13, 2019, 04:32:41 AM
The Detroit Piston added some shooting power into their bench. Joe Johnson signed up with the team after a successful stint at Ice Cube's Big 3 league. The guy may be old but he can still shoot well. https://www.msn.com/g00/en-us/sports/nba/joe-johnson-signs-with-pistons-after-mvp-stint-in-big3/

Good addition don't you think?


Yeah, he is a good addition to Detroit. His experience is what Detroit needs. He is also a physical player who is not afraid for a physical game that fits the tradition of Detroit.
The traditional kind of game where these bad boys were known for.  Though those old days are gone and the type of basketball is no longer physical, but his addition to this team will bring a good impact. He's a defensive and offensive threat, and his experience with this league is a  plus factor. It just needs to be incorporate with his new teammates and the coaching staff to maximize his capabilities.
I would not expect too much for him as he left the NBA with a bad statistics, now he is back, he should prove it again that he can still play physical despite his current age now. He is a BIG 3 MVP and I'm not so aware of this league as I don't think it's popular but compared to the NBA, he won't be getting any MVP award as the award now are dominated by the young ones.

I was reading this link

https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nba/2019/09/12/big-3-mvp-joe-johnson-signs-one-year-deal-detroit-pistons/2301950001/
Did it mentioned how much he will get for 1 year contract?
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September 13, 2019, 04:18:42 AM
The Detroit Piston added some shooting power into their bench. Joe Johnson signed up with the team after a successful stint at Ice Cube's Big 3 league. The guy may be old but he can still shoot well. https://www.msn.com/g00/en-us/sports/nba/joe-johnson-signs-with-pistons-after-mvp-stint-in-big3/

Good addition don't you think?


Yeah, he is a good addition to Detroit. His experience is what Detroit needs. He is also a physical player who is not afraid for a physical game that fits the tradition of Detroit.
The traditional kind of game where these bad boys were known for.  Though those old days are gone and the type of basketball is no longer physical, but his addition to this team will bring a good impact. He's a defensive and offensive threat, and his experience with this league is a  plus factor. It just needs to be incorporate with his new teammates and the coaching staff to maximize his capabilities.
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September 13, 2019, 04:06:38 AM
The Detroit Piston added some shooting power into their bench. Joe Johnson signed up with the team after a successful stint at Ice Cube's Big 3 league. The guy may be old but he can still shoot well. https://www.msn.com/g00/en-us/sports/nba/joe-johnson-signs-with-pistons-after-mvp-stint-in-big3/

Good addition don't you think?


Yeah, he is a good addition to Detroit. His experience is what Detroit needs. He is also a physical player who is not afraid for a physical game that fits the tradition of Detroit.

We can review his stats here https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/j/johnsjo02.html..

Currently he is already 38 years old, older than Dwayne Wade who retired last season, but he had an impressive record at https://big3.com/stats/.
The fact that he was sign by the Detroit, they are seeing he will be able to contribute to the team, so good luck for him.
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