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Quote from: SquallLeonhart on September 03, 2019, 11:51:42 AM

I think blazers need a coaching change more so than any player improvement. At one point they had an amazing lineup with Dame-CJ-Evan-Harkless-Aminu-Nurkic and even Collins.

I'm with the idea of Blazers should change their coach since no positive result happens for 7 years with their current coach. However, even you put Stever Kerr or Coach Pop in the current Blazers team right now, I will bet that they will not be the champion.

What they need to do is to put some strong backup players around the main core. Remove Lillard and CJ on the floor and they are doomed. Blazers are known for not participating in catching big fish or at least have an effort to target a well-good player. They are like that for several seasons wasting the talents of Damian Lillard. Fortunately for them, Lillard already committed that he will not leave the team and will remain loyal. He said that, if I'm not mistaken 2 to 3 years ago.

Quote from: SquallLeonhart on September 03, 2019, 11:51:42 AM

It all depends on how you play a player more than how a player plays,

Coach is a big factor, no doubt about that. The presence of coaches like Steve Kerr or Coach Pop will boost players morale.

But in today's NBA, morale is not enough. Blazers should overhaul first their lineup and just consider changing coach later on.

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Quote from: SquallLeonhart on September 03, 2019, 11:51:42 AM

I think blazers need a coaching change more so than any player improvement. At one point they had an amazing lineup with Dame-CJ-Evan-Harkless-Aminu-Nurkic and even Collins. That team could have had serious chances of becoming champions if it wasn't the beast years of warriors, same team right now with an amazing coach like Steve Kerr or Greg Pop would be able to get a ring this year I am 100% sure about it.

It all depends on how you play a player more than how a player plays, Steve Kerr saw his team and realized what he had so he made his decision about how they would be playing, Blazers never had a stable coach that would be capable of moving the team into a system that would optimize the talents of their best players to be used, its just pure ISO at this point.

At some point I think their current coaching staff helps the team to improve, after LA leave the team, I lost my expectation that they will be in playoffs again, but they have proven me wrong, unfortunately, they are not as good as the Warriors.

What they need is to improve their defense, they can score because they have a lot of reliable shooters and all in the floor have confidence to shoot, and even the big man already learn how to shoot 3 points, but like I said, the defense has to be in place as well.

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With that said, I think Blazers should also be in the discussion here, CJ and Lillard are still the top two scoring guards in my opinion.

They will have their time. If Blazers can follow what the Warriors did in adding pieces to their two best backcourt shooters, they will be more dangerous. They badly need some players who can defend well and score at the same time.

That's important, but what improvements they have done so far?
It seems like there's no big movement within the team and they just rely on their best players to still dictate the future of blazers this coming season.
I'm saying they will not have the same success they had in the last playoffs because it's a different west now, a more improve one.

Agree to that. Blazers needs to add an all-around player who can add up to their 2 super stars. If they wanted to be more competitive, this step is really important to them. NBA teams keep improving their lineups, especially the West side teams are very strong with how those trades happened. Blazers needs to adopt and adjust in order to create a powerhouse squad that will be ready in facing teams like Lakers and Clippers, for example, and those super teams that will be formed eventually.

Adjustment will really be suggested because same as being said this wont really be the same on last season since there were lots of changes in rosters specially on West teams.
They shouldnt expect that this one would really be an easy path if they wont make any add up-They should took up as a consideration on seeking out that additional that can
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Quote from: Jating on September 03, 2019, 03:01:03 AM

With that said, I think Blazers should also be in the discussion here, CJ and Lillard are still the top two scoring guards in my opinion.

They will have their time. If Blazers can follow what the Warriors did in adding pieces to their two best backcourt shooters, they will be more dangerous. They badly need some players who can defend well and score at the same time.

That's important, but what improvements they have done so far?
It seems like there's no big movement within the team and they just rely on their best players to still dictate the future of blazers this coming season.
I'm saying they will not have the same success they had in the last playoffs because it's a different west now, a more improve one.

Agree to that. Blazers needs to add an all-around player who can add up to their 2 super stars. If they wanted to be more competitive, this step is really important to them. NBA teams keep improving their lineups, especially the West side teams are very strong with how those trades happened. Blazers needs to adopt and adjust in order to create a powerhouse squad that will be ready in facing teams like Lakers and Clippers, for example, and those super teams that will be formed eventually.

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I think blazers need a coaching change more so than any player improvement. At one point they had an amazing lineup with Dame-CJ-Evan-Harkless-Aminu-Nurkic and even Collins. That team could have had serious chances of becoming champions if it wasn't the beast years of warriors, same team right now with an amazing coach like Steve Kerr or Greg Pop would be able to get a ring this year I am 100% sure about it.

It all depends on how you play a player more than how a player plays, Steve Kerr saw his team and realized what he had so he made his decision about how they would be playing, Blazers never had a stable coach that would be capable of moving the team into a system that would optimize the talents of their best players to be used, its just pure ISO at this point.

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Quote from: Bttzed03 on September 02, 2019, 08:50:21 PM

Forget about Denver, they are still the same team but we know what they are capable in the playoffs, they got beaten by the Blazers which was swept by the Warriors in the WCF, so they are not counted as one of the best team to have a chance to win in the NBA finals.

Don't sleep on the Denver team. They are silent but they are very deadly, they are up there with SA, Blazers, Lakers, Clippers, Warriors. Also, don't underestimate the one year experience added to Jokic and the whole team.
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I am supposed to say that also until I read your reply. Thanks for saving me some effort to defend Denver.
Portland is a strong team so it aint a shame to lose with them. Lillard is now on his prime and maybe he will do better this year and is aiming for the crown.
But still, when it comes to team plays it is Denver who have the 2nd greatest next to Pops.
Even with their roster they became one of the top in the West and also they won against the best coach of the league defeating San Antonio Spurs.

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Don't sleep on the Denver team. They are silent but they are very deadly

Yes, they are deadly. Many people are still doubting them because they don't have popular superstar players but they are a tough team to beat.

Don't go there. Before, GSW dont have any star on their midst. They just became stars after winning a championship.
And hey, dont forget about the 2004 Detroit Pistons. No stars, just pure defense.
This is what Michael Malone is trying to pull by now.

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Does any team interested in signing melo? I think he is interested in teaming up with Durant and Irving in Brooklyn. But I guess his career is over this time because of his injuries.

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Quote from: rosezionjohn on September 03, 2019, 04:18:01 AM

Quote from: Jating on September 03, 2019, 03:01:03 AM

With that said, I think Blazers should also be in the discussion here, CJ and Lillard are still the top two scoring guards in my opinion.

They will have their time. If Blazers can follow what the Warriors did in adding pieces to their two best backcourt shooters, they will be more dangerous. They badly need some players who can defend well and score at the same time.

That's important, but what improvements they have done so far?
It seems like there's no big movement within the team and they just rely on their best players to still dictate the future of blazers this coming season.
I'm saying they will not have the same success they had in the last playoffs because it's a different west now, a more improve one.

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Quote from: Jating on September 03, 2019, 03:01:03 AM

With that said, I think Blazers should also be in the discussion here, CJ and Lillard are still the top two scoring guards in my opinion.

They will have their time. If Blazers can follow what the Warriors did in adding pieces to their two best backcourt shooters, they will be more dangerous. They badly need some players who can defend well and score at the same time.

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Beverley and Iggy, what a combination in defense. It will be great if they acquire him.

Kawhi, Iggy and Beverly have a same quality of skills they are all a big threat both defensively and offensively, signing Iggy will be a good move for Clippers, they are aiming for much higher chances for this season together with Kawhi they also need a backup support with a star quality skills which
is entitled describing Iggy, with Zubac, Harrell,George, and Williams it's an interesting team to watch out.

Doc Rivers needs to build good chemistry and allow the team to form a solid teamwork with good ball rotations.

Oh I almost forgot, I only pointed Iggy and Beverley as defensive players while their stars are really the best of it.
Yes, Kawhi and PG13 are one of the best defensive units in NBA and Kawhi already won the defensive player of the year.

The Clippers team will be like a wall to the Lakers but let us not forget also about Denver.
3 teams are now the crowd favorite. Clippers, Lakers and Bucks.
They are forgetting about what Denver Nuggets did last season.
Their defense is also one of the best and it will be great to see them head to head against the Clippers team.

Forget about Denver, they are still the same team but we know what they are capable in the playoffs, they got beaten by the Blazers which was swept by the Warriors in the WCF, so they are not counted as one of the best team to have a chance to win in the NBA finals.

I agree, Denver is good but we all know that Blazers beat them because Denver is somewhat all Jokic, Lol. As far as Iggy goes if Clippers are going to snag him then that's against upgrade to the team. And I think we will see him and Lebron guarding against each other again if ever those two are going to clash specially in playoffs.

With that said, I think Blazers should also be in the discussion here, CJ and Lillard are still the top two scoring guards in my opinion.

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Quote from: Bttzed03 on September 02, 2019, 08:50:21 PM

Don't sleep on the Denver team. They are silent but they are very deadly

Yes, they are deadly. Many people are still doubting them because they don't have popular superstar players but they are a tough team to beat.

Quote from: Vaculin on September 03, 2019, 01:50:30 AM

I have my favorite team but I also like Denver, however, I don't see them beating the favorites this season.
Jokic alone can't give them success in the playoffs, we've seen enough in the last playoffs, Blazers were successful against them because they have a lot of scorers compared to Denver. Also, Jokic already scored his usual scoring, but not enough to help his team, he need someone who is reliable enough to help him score, Blazers had Damian Lillard, CJ, and Kanter (paying with injury), but they can't beat the team.

They don't have to beat your favorite team, someone else might beat them Cheesy

but joking aside, it's not like they were beaten badly by the Blazers. It was a very close series and the loss may also be attributed to the inexperience of Jokic and some of the team members. Things could have been different if he had the same number of high level playing years with Dame.

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Quote from: Bttzed03 on September 02, 2019, 08:50:21 PM

Don't sleep on the Denver team. They are silent but they are very deadly, they are up there with SA, Blazers, Lakers, Clippers, Warriors. Also, don't underestimate the one year experience added to Jokic and the whole team.

I have my favorite team but I also like Denver, however, I don't see them beating the favorites this season.
Jokic alone can't give them success in the playoffs, we've seen enough in the last playoffs, Blazers were successful against them because they have a lot of scorers compared to Denver. Also, Jokic already scored his usual scoring, but not enough to help his team, he need someone who is reliable enough to help him score, Blazers had Damian Lillard, CJ, and Kanter (paying with injury), but they can't beat the team.

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I think they would have to give up something and they wouldn't want to give up anything for an aging Iggy. I have said this during all of playoffs and I am saying again Iggy wasn't a good player last year. Not just playoffs, he wasn't good all season. He still has a bit of defense left in him but he is just a huge void on offense and that is really not worth the time he gets.

Plus, clippers have a great lineup right now, PatBev-LWill-PG13-Kawhi-Harrel. That five is probably the best lineup in the league, they are literally bringing the defense back to NBA, it reminds me of the 2004 pistons times but during those years Pistons didn't had a superstar, the team as a general was good but no individual player was superstar, here in clippers they have Kawhi which is going for a GOAT debate if he wins a ring this year too and maybe PG13 could be considered a star too.

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Quote from: Golftech on September 02, 2019, 11:08:31 AM

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Doc Rivers needs to build good chemistry and allow the team to form a solid teamwork with good ball rotations.

None of them have a superstar ego as far as I know and that will make it easier for Doc to make their roster work.

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They are forgetting about what Denver Nuggets did last season.
Their defense is also one of the best and it will be great to see them head to head against the Clippers team.

Forget about Denver, they are still the same team but we know what they are capable in the playoffs, they got beaten by the Blazers which was swept by the Warriors in the WCF, so they are not counted as one of the best team to have a chance to win in the NBA finals.

Don't sleep on the Denver team. They are silent but they are very deadly, they are up there with SA, Blazers, Lakers, Clippers, Warriors. Also, don't underestimate the one year experience added to Jokic and the whole team.

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Quote from: Reid on September 02, 2019, 05:55:13 PM

Quote from: Golftech on September 02, 2019, 11:08:31 AM

Quote from: Reid on September 02, 2019, 01:47:53 AM

Beverley and Iggy, what a combination in defense. It will be great if they acquire him.

Kawhi, Iggy and Beverly have a same quality of skills they are all a big threat both defensively and offensively, signing Iggy will be a good move for Clippers, they are aiming for much higher chances for this season together with Kawhi they also need a backup support with a star quality skills which
is entitled describing Iggy, with Zubac, Harrell,George, and Williams it's an interesting team to watch out.

Doc Rivers needs to build good chemistry and allow the team to form a solid teamwork with good ball rotations.

Oh I almost forgot, I only pointed Iggy and Beverley as defensive players while their stars are really the best of it.
Yes, Kawhi and PG13 are one of the best defensive units in NBA and Kawhi already won the defensive player of the year.

The Clippers team will be like a wall to the Lakers but let us not forget also about Denver.
3 teams are now the crowd favorite. Clippers, Lakers and Bucks.
They are forgetting about what Denver Nuggets did last season.
Their defense is also one of the best and it will be great to see them head to head against the Clippers team.

Forget about Denver, they are still the same team but we know what they are capable in the playoffs, they got beaten by the Blazers which was swept by the Warriors in the WCF, so they are not counted as one of the best team to have a chance to win in the NBA finals.

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Quote from: Golftech on September 02, 2019, 11:08:31 AM

Quote from: Reid on September 02, 2019, 01:47:53 AM

Beverley and Iggy, what a combination in defense. It will be great if they acquire him.

Kawhi, Iggy and Beverly have a same quality of skills they are all a big threat both defensively and offensively, signing Iggy will be a good move for Clippers, they are aiming for much higher chances for this season together with Kawhi they also need a backup support with a star quality skills which
is entitled describing Iggy, with Zubac, Harrell,George, and Williams it's an interesting team to watch out.

Doc Rivers needs to build good chemistry and allow the team to form a solid teamwork with good ball rotations.

Oh I almost forgot, I only pointed Iggy and Beverley as defensive players while their stars are really the best of it.
Yes, Kawhi and PG13 are one of the best defensive units in NBA and Kawhi already won the defensive player of the year.

The Clippers team will be like a wall to the Lakers but let us not forget also about Denver.
3 teams are now the crowd favorite. Clippers, Lakers and Bucks.
They are forgetting about what Denver Nuggets did last season.
Their defense is also one of the best and it will be great to see them head to head against the Clippers team.

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Anyone read the rumors that the Clippers is close to signing Iguodala? That's probably the best line up for next season if the Clips land him. Imagine how many good/great two-way players they have.

Havent heard of this but if this is a rumor lately, sure he will be a good part to the team's roster.

A good team and having him is a plus.

Iguodala was never been a liability in any team he joined AFAIR, so I don't think if the Clippers are still capable they would not sign Iguodala.
Leonard is good, they have a leader now that is team oriented, so with a improvement, it will make them a better team which is hard to beat.

They have to prepare a good team in the west and having a veteran with multiple championship experience is a big plus factor for the team, I wonder if their betting odds to be the champ might increase once this guy is gonna be on board.

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Quote from: Bttzed03 on September 02, 2019, 12:09:52 AM

Anyone read the rumors that the Clippers is close to signing Iguodala? That's probably the best line up for next season if the Clips land him. Imagine how many good/great two-way players they have.

Havent heard of this but if this is a rumor lately, sure he will be a good part to the team's roster.

A good team and having him is a plus.

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Quote from: Bttzed03 on September 02, 2019, 12:09:52 AM

Anyone read the rumors that the Clippers is close to signing Iguodala? That's probably the best line up for next season if the Clips land him. Imagine how many good/great two-way players they have.

He is really a good addition to the team, I mean we have seen what he can do as a Golden State Warriors, specially in defence. But you can't totally sleep on his offence as well and he can deliver big time plays. He will probably came as a six man again with Clippers but definitely he will having him will give Clippers a lot of options here.

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Quote from: Reid on September 02, 2019, 01:47:53 AM

Beverley and Iggy, what a combination in defense. It will be great if they acquire him.

Kawhi, Iggy and Beverly have a same quality of skills they are all a big threat both defensively and offensively, signing Iggy will be a good move for Clippers, they are aiming for much higher chances for this season together with Kawhi they also need a backup support with a star quality skills which
is entitled describing Iggy, with Zubac, Harrell,George, and Williams it's an interesting team to watch out.

Doc Rivers needs to build good chemistry and allow the team to form a solid teamwork with good ball rotations.

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