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January 01, 2024, 07:11:33 PM
Gabe was not a good trade for the Lakers. And I have heard of the rumor trade from the GSW about releasing Wiggins and  Draymond.
I think that is going to get some good change for the GSW if they will get to trade the two and who are they going to take? I wonder how Dray will feel if he is betrayed like Poole but then, it is a business decision.

Nothing betrayal happen to Dray and its pure business matter since he also need to understand that what he do recently can really affect his position on GSW. And since he became a toxic member on the roster for always having a controversy then he should understand that decision like this is likely to happen. Also it make sense to GSW to have good changes and Dray and Wiggins will be a good piece for them to trade then get a good return since I think they still have a good trading value.

GSW is in bad shape so I guess there's something roster adjustment will happen to them since for sure they don't like to be on bad position which they are in trouble to get a slot on playoffs.
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January 01, 2024, 07:06:14 PM
Gabe was not a good trade for the Lakers. And I have heard of the rumor trade from the GSW about releasing Wiggins and  Draymond.
I think that is going to get some good change for the GSW if they will get to trade the two and who are they going to take? I wonder how Dray will feel if he is betrayed like Poole but then, it is a business decision.
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January 01, 2024, 05:39:31 PM
SGA also has defense compared to other players. Embiid and Jokic are not known for their defense, and that means SGA is better than them at one half of the game, the fact that they are ranked higher is mainly because NBA cares about offense more than they care about defense, not just fans but also the whole entire organization tries to minimize defense as much as possible by calling almost everything a foul, so that is why we are seeing SGA not getting the attention he deserves.

How many players in that list could be considered a great scorer with 30+ ppg and then still be in race for being a great defender at the same time? Giannis could be the only one, he defends well, but he is not a great perimeter defender, he is great at inside, and most teams play outside these days.
I'm not a Philly supporter but embid has made all defensive team 3 times in his career and his defensive ratings are great.  And jokic is just on another level than most other players.  Dude almost averages a triple double.  He is one of the best passers in the league and makes players on his team better.  He is almost unstoppable when he digs in.  Sga is phenomenal but not in the ranks of those 2 yet.
The Jokic part is an easy to defend part, he is great at offense, but what I was talking about is that OKC is running their offense through SGA as well and he also adds defense to his game as well, whereas Jokic might be much better offensively, yes nearly triple double, great work, but he has absolutely no defensive skills at all, that was my point.

I am not saying you need to be amazing on defense to win MVP, I am just saying SGA has a better defense than Jokic. On the other topic, Embiid may have been great at defense so far in his career, and to be fair he isn't bad now neither, but I would say that SGA is better THIS season, that doesn't mean to say that SGA was better all the time, or in general, I just wanted to say this season that is all.

Sga is a great young player but embid literally wins games all on his own.  Not just on offense but defense too.  Take embid off that Philly team and they are one of the worst in the league, keep him on and they can contend for a championship.  Putting down embid and jokic in co.parison to sga is a weird angle they are all great.
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January 01, 2024, 04:14:09 PM
All-Star voting continues until January 20. Votes cast today will be counted 3x.
Don't forget to vote for Alperen Şengün in the voting. He deserves to be an All-Star with the play he played this season. He became the locomotive that carried the Rockets and broke records in many areas as a young big man. He would be an entertaining All-Star player with his passes, he is already a very sympathetic person. I hope the coaches, media and players pick him even if he isn't picked in the top 5.
Sengun will probably not be an all-star this season due to his position, although he had an all-star level season. Jokic, Davis and possibly KAT is almost certainly will be selected in his position. If one of them can't participate, he will probably be next in line. But I expect him to be a regular in the coming years. To make a simple calculation, the first five of the 2024 western all-star team will be sga-doncic-lebron-durant-jokic. the reserves will be curry, fox, booker, ant, davis, kawhi and george. So there is only one spot left. His opponents are players like towns, markkanen, sabonis and ingram. In my eyes, Alperen is ahead of them, but his team is a little unstable. If his team catches a series and goes to 6-7th place or something, it will be a little bit glamourized, but it's hard.
Sengun is a great kid, I keep seeing him all the time on instagram with NBA account, he definitely averages almost all-star levels on stats as well. Even if we assume that he doesn't become all-star, which is totally possible, back in the day he could have been, it was every position, now it's just guards and forwards basically, it's not the same, and Sengun doesn't have that many spots to be picked.

However, even if he doesn't, we could safely say that he would be around, like if one or two people misses it, then Sengun will be there to get in, that is without a question true. His only unlucky part is that no other all-star level players seems to be injured, which means he would probably not get that chance to play.
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January 01, 2024, 01:45:05 PM

Lots of Piston fans got frustrate about long losing streak they are experiencing then its like they can get more lose since the players is doing a huge mess. Don't actually know what's happening on them since they have good coach and its like they can't connect with each other and their defense is so poor. Provably Piston needs a deep rebuilding process for what they are experiencing now and  they need to figure out the root cause of the problem so that they can find a solution then atleast get a one win since for sure there are lot of fans will be happy for them if they broke that long losing streak.

I see it is just a coincidence if you look at all of the Detroit Pistons games they are all so close to winning yet they are losing every game for sure if you look at every game they have you can see a great player like Bojan Bogdanovic, Cade Cunningham Marvin Bagley III that is doing great with every game they take, and for the game on the Toronto Raptors it was Jalen Duren in my opinion and his participation on the game that made a slight edge winning for the Detroit Piston, for sure many want Piston to retain the Lossing streak record but it is a bad reputation for the team to get this kind f results,

I had Pistons to win last night on my betting ticket alongside 76ers ( who ruined my entire bet ) , Mavs and Wolves and I swear whenever I pick 76ers to win , they lose and vice versa...so I think it's safer for me to simply forget 76ers are in NBA  Grin Grin. Overall , I should be happy for Bulls but I'm more happy for Pistons to finally get that win because no one wants to suffer to many defeats in a row ...especially for the mental health.

Philadelphia 76ers had many injuries going into the Chicago Bulls game and it was quite a bad idea getting a bet on them but for sure they got it, and their massive 2 consecutive wins were the thing you are sure about that is why you bet for them but as I think it is just a coincidence that some teams are losing and some team don't this is the game of basketball and anything can surely happen that is why it is really hard to predict,


Yeah, the Chicago Bulls are slightly better with Zach Lavine sidelined, I'm not saying this makes Lavine a terrible player, but maybe that's not just the team he's meant to be in, while there is a very huge speculation of where he would end up, with a high chance of him getting traded, Raptors were one of those team, now I don't think Raptors is a possible destination after just trading for RJ Barrett and Immanuel Quickley, the other in question was said to be Miami Heat, while the Heat look to have gotten some significant piece from draft picks and a couple of veterans, addition of Zach Lavine wouldn't be a downgrade, neither will it disrupt whatever chemistry they're trying to build now.

I agree! Zach LeVine is certainly a unique, player but maybe because of the rumors that the team will trade him out have got him a little out of context, but Chicago Bulls is so much ready every time Zach LeVine is on the team but apparently, if they would trade him for a better player then I think Zach LeVine deserves a good team, I really wish he can be in a team where his type of playing will work in their system and that he could be a Pillar and not just a backup,

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January 01, 2024, 12:53:23 PM
Los Angeles Lakers, once a legendary team, are now in decline. They lost 129-109 to New Orleans in the match played last night. Even though LeBron James was the top scorer of the game in Los Angeles with 34 points, this was not enough for the victory.
Boston, the NBA's best team at the moment, defeated San Antonio on the road with a score of 101-134. There is no star basketball player in Boston that I know of, but they play the team game very well. If they do not have any injury problems, the Boston Celtics are the biggest candidate for the championship.
Other match scores of the night are as follows:
Oklahoma 124-108 Brooklyn
Memphis 92-123 Sacramento
Phoenix 112-107 Orlando


Regardless how hard LeBron will play, if the entire team does not have that same level of competition, the outcome will still be the same. Individual stats
like that is only good for the player itself but for the team, it is useless.

Yes, Boston is really playing well this season with how they share the ball and how dominant they are in terms of attacking the basket. That's

much higher percentage of shots and a chance to make a 3-point play, they are not taking many 3's though they are also capable in hitting big shots.

It's amazing how Los Angeles, which won its first in-season tournament as champions, ended up in such a bad situation.
Yes, LeBron is the star of the team, but despite his age, he plays more than 35 minutes in these matches. If there is no other player next to LeBron who can support him and contribute to his scoring, the championship is considered a dream. Anthony Davis looks far from his old form. Injuries set him back a lot. If he regains his old form, LeBron and Anthony will be enough for Los Angeles.
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January 01, 2024, 11:57:02 AM
Lately I have not been a fan of NBA until I started following other people bets and I saw a huge amount of bets at least in the casino where I usually play which is the one in my signature are on basketball.I love playing every single game there with over as my preferred bets as they score a lot of points usually and the over bet is the most played from other people too.I find it quite strange that since the time I used to watch every game of NBA several years ago when Chicago Bulls used to dominate this and then it was Sacramento Kings,

NBA nowadays is more on offense and sacrifice defense that’s why the total score is always a score fest especially when the fight involves top seed team. Team usually just focus on recovering through scoring in return unlike before that defense is always an important part of the game to limit any team from scoring. I believe only 4th quarter when score is tight defense starts to take effect.

since then I have lost the interest to watch games here yet the interest is sparked again and seeing some team like Bolton Celtics leading the NBA is strange to me at least.The NBA keeps me wake at night when there are no soccer matches to entertain myself by betting in here.

Chicago bulls? Are you talking about MJ or Rose era because this the only time I saw bulls dominate the league. Boston Celtics is always been the running for top seed for a long time.
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January 01, 2024, 11:36:03 AM
All-Star voting continues until January 20. Votes cast today will be counted 3x.
Don't forget to vote for Alperen Şengün in the voting. He deserves to be an All-Star with the play he played this season. He became the locomotive that carried the Rockets and broke records in many areas as a young big man. He would be an entertaining All-Star player with his passes, he is already a very sympathetic person. I hope the coaches, media and players pick him even if he isn't picked in the top 5.
Sengun will probably not be an all-star this season due to his position, although he had an all-star level season. Jokic, Davis and possibly KAT is almost certainly will be selected in his position. If one of them can't participate, he will probably be next in line. But I expect him to be a regular in the coming years. To make a simple calculation, the first five of the 2024 western all-star team will be sga-doncic-lebron-durant-jokic. the reserves will be curry, fox, booker, ant, davis, kawhi and george. So there is only one spot left. His opponents are players like towns, markkanen, sabonis and ingram. In my eyes, Alperen is ahead of them, but his team is a little unstable. If his team catches a series and goes to 6-7th place or something, it will be a little bit glamourized, but it's hard.
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January 01, 2024, 10:22:32 AM
Lately I have not been a fan of NBA until I started following other people bets and I saw a huge amount of bets at least in the casino where I usually play which is the one in my signature are on basketball.I love playing every single game there with over as my preferred bets as they score a lot of points usually and the over bet is the most played from other people too.I find it quite strange that since the time I used to watch every game of NBA several years ago when Chicago Bulls used to dominate this and then it was Sacramento Kings,since then I have lost the interest to watch games here yet the interest is sparked again and seeing some team like Bolton Celtics leading the NBA is strange to me at least.The NBA keeps me wake at night when there are no soccer matches to entertain myself by betting in here.
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January 01, 2024, 10:17:38 AM
All-Star voting continues until January 20. Votes cast today will be counted 3x.
Don't forget to vote for Alperen Şengün in the voting. He deserves to be an All-Star with the play he played this season. He became the locomotive that carried the Rockets and broke records in many areas as a young big man. He would be an entertaining All-Star player with his passes, he is already a very sympathetic person. I hope the coaches, media and players pick him even if he isn't picked in the top 5.
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January 01, 2024, 09:34:33 AM

If Celtics are able to reduce their extreme dependence on 3 pointer shots, and find other ways like driving into perimiter more and geting more point from the paint area, they'll be a team to be in the league this season and I'll tip them as my favorite for the championship this year, provided they are able to keep their core players fit and avoid long term injuries that could deter their ambitions.

Honestly, they really have a high chance of winning the championship this year but we all know because of how different regular season games are from the playoffs, anything could happen especially when they suddenly lose a player due to major injuries but right now obviously, that's not the case anymore because of their strong bench players as well and their team seems to be leading the NBA throughout the season because of this and they are more likely be winning the championship as well if they can always play such high-level chemistries and skills.
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January 01, 2024, 09:22:34 AM
^^ Adams is their true center, but Jaren have been playing that position this second, but I haven't check this performance. Anyway, Ja is back and hopefully if Clark can also be there after the all star break, Memphis can still salvage this season and hopefully be in the playoffs.

Good to see that the Pistons losing streak is over, but they are still the underdog in their next game against the Rockets and so they might start a new losing streak  Grin.

And speaking of parlays, it might be good to throw some in tomorrow's game, good be some lopsided games.
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January 01, 2024, 08:16:29 AM
I know Detroit Pistons are not the best team but their roster is not so bad to have this results, they have between them Bogdanovic a proved player, and they have a number 1 pick in the draft(Cunningham), you cant lose 20+ games in a row with that i think we see worst roster in other teams..
The sad part about it is too many basketball fans are expecting a lot with Cunningham. But it doesn't work out like that. He needs to be surrounded by good players too if they want the Detroit Pistons to be a successful franchise. I bet another long losing streak will happen because they are not synchronized. They cannot just put everything to Cunningham, that's exhausting and might jeopardize his health.
In their win against the Raptors, Cade made 12 assists which I think is the key for them to win games. That's his role and he should start acting it. A playmaker, a leader, and can also be an offensive weapon.  

Ja Morant played 31 minutes today. Fuck Jaren Jackson Jr. and the Memphis team; they always ruin my parlays. The team really needs a legit center. Imagine averaging 3 rebounds per game and playing 33 minutes per game in the last three games. This guy is the reason why Memphis is in 13th place in their conference. He should be benched player.
They badly need a center. No Adams and Clarke and they will not be back for a long time. There's a chance the Grizzlies might not make it to the playoffs anymore and expect them to lose more of their games. Clarke will be back in February if I am not mistaken and that's after the All-Star break so the chance for a playoffs may be gone for this team unless Ja Morant goes super saiyan.  Grin
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January 01, 2024, 07:52:52 AM
I just found out that NBA already approved Mark Cuban's selling majority stake of Mavs to a gambling magnate family. How do you think this is going to shake up the team once the new majority owner settles in?
I confess... I was surprised by this news.
I verified that the new majority shareholder of the Mavs owns Las Vegas Sands, and they have other casinos around the world.

This is an interesting question, I believe there may be different reactions, but even so, Mark Cuban will have a small stake in the team (of course smaller than Adelson and Dumonts).
If the new shareholders make drastic changes to the Mavs, I have no doubt that this will have an impact on the team, perhaps not directly on the players but possibly on the franchise's team of managers and staff.
I believe that only time will be able to tell us this more clearly.

I think this news is like a couple of weeks ago, and yeah it's final and the NBA has approved it.

And as far as I can understand, he has smaller stake but he still has control over the Basketball of the Mavs, so trades and everything will still have his approval. So I don't think that there will be an impact on the players.

Players do know though that it's business, and being professional, they will have to move on with or without Mark Cuban and so are the fans.

That's what I also read, although he is not the major stake holder, but since he is still in control of the team, nothing to worry about possible changes. Thus far, Mavericks is a successful team, although they had not won a championship yet but having Luka who is a sensational player, he's certainly a crowd magnet, and that's just what they need to continue operating profitably.
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January 01, 2024, 07:04:03 AM
I just found out that NBA already approved Mark Cuban's selling majority stake of Mavs to a gambling magnate family. How do you think this is going to shake up the team once the new majority owner settles in?
I confess... I was surprised by this news.
I verified that the new majority shareholder of the Mavs owns Las Vegas Sands, and they have other casinos around the world.

This is an interesting question, I believe there may be different reactions, but even so, Mark Cuban will have a small stake in the team (of course smaller than Adelson and Dumonts).
If the new shareholders make drastic changes to the Mavs, I have no doubt that this will have an impact on the team, perhaps not directly on the players but possibly on the franchise's team of managers and staff.
I believe that only time will be able to tell us this more clearly.

I think this news is like a couple of weeks ago, and yeah it's final and the NBA has approved it.

And as far as I can understand, he has smaller stake but he still has control over the Basketball of the Mavs, so trades and everything will still have his approval. So I don't think that there will be an impact on the players.

Players do know though that it's business, and being professional, they will have to move on with or without Mark Cuban and so are the fans.
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January 01, 2024, 06:34:45 AM
I just found out that NBA already approved Mark Cuban's selling majority stake of Mavs to a gambling magnate family. How do you think this is going to shake up the team once the new majority owner settles in?
I confess... I was surprised by this news.
I verified that the new majority shareholder of the Mavs owns Las Vegas Sands, and they have other casinos around the world.

This is an interesting question, I believe there may be different reactions, but even so, Mark Cuban will have a small stake in the team (of course smaller than Adelson and Dumonts).
If the new shareholders make drastic changes to the Mavs, I have no doubt that this will have an impact on the team, perhaps not directly on the players but possibly on the franchise's team of managers and staff.
I believe that only time will be able to tell us this more clearly.
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January 01, 2024, 06:18:27 AM
Los Angeles Lakers, once a legendary team, are now in decline. They lost 129-109 to New Orleans in the match played last night. Even though LeBron James was the top scorer of the game in Los Angeles with 34 points, this was not enough for the victory.
Boston, the NBA's best team at the moment, defeated San Antonio on the road with a score of 101-134. There is no star basketball player in Boston that I know of, but they play the team game very well. If they do not have any injury problems, the Boston Celtics are the biggest candidate for the championship.
Other match scores of the night are as follows:
Oklahoma 124-108 Brooklyn
Memphis 92-123 Sacramento
Phoenix 112-107 Orlando


Regardless how hard LeBron will play, if the entire team does not have that same level of competition, the outcome will still be the same. Individual stats
like that is only good for the player itself but for the team, it is useless.

Yes, Boston is really playing well this season with how they share the ball and how dominant they are in terms of attacking the basket. That's

much higher percentage of shots and a chance to make a 3-point play, they are not taking many 3's though they are also capable in hitting big shots.
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January 01, 2024, 05:09:30 AM
I just found out that NBA already approved Mark Cuban's selling majority stake of Mavs to a gambling magnate family. How do you think this is going to shake up the team once the new majority owner settles in?

Boston, the NBA's best team at the moment, defeated San Antonio on the road with a score of 101-134. There is no star basketball player in Boston that I know of, but they play the team game very well. If they do not have any injury problems, the Boston Celtics are the biggest candidate for the championship.
Seriously? You don't know Tatum, Brown and Porzingis? They are star players for me.  Grin
He's probably trolling when he didn't recognize those three as star players. It's either that or he is new to the NBA hehe. There's just no way.
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January 01, 2024, 05:07:43 AM
Other match scores of the night are as follows:
Oklahoma 124-108 Brooklyn
Memphis 92-123 Sacramento
Phoenix 112-107 Orlando

All of these 3 results aren't surprising at all. I would be surprise with the Memphis losing but when I checked and found out Morant was out, I said to myself "okay!".
Ja Morant played 31 minutes today. Fuck Jaren Jackson Jr. and the Memphis team; they always ruin my parlays. The team really needs a legit center. Imagine averaging 3 rebounds per game and playing 33 minutes per game in the last three games. This guy is the reason why Memphis is in 13th place in their conference. He should be benched player.
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January 01, 2024, 04:50:01 AM
Los Angeles Lakers, once a legendary team, are now in decline. They lost 129-109 to New Orleans in the match played last night. Even though LeBron James was the top scorer of the game in Los Angeles with 34 points, this was not enough for the victory.
They were in a back to back game, and had came from a disappointing loss, I thought they were tired.

Yes, they are in decline, but they are still at .500, with only 2 losing streak.
This team are gonna bounce back soon, just relax and trust the process, they are healthy now, there's no reason they will not make it to the playoffs, or at least in the play-in tournament.

Boston, the NBA's best team at the moment, defeated San Antonio on the road with a score of 101-134. There is no star basketball player in Boston that I know of, but they play the team game very well. If they do not have any injury problems, the Boston Celtics are the biggest candidate for the championship.
Seriously? You don't know Tatum, Brown and Porzingis? They are star players for me.  Grin

Other match scores of the night are as follows:
Oklahoma 124-108 Brooklyn
Memphis 92-123 Sacramento
Phoenix 112-107 Orlando

All of these 3 results aren't surprising at all. I would be surprise with the Memphis losing but when I checked and found out Morant was out, I said to myself "okay!".
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