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Quote from: Russlenat on November 14, 2023, 05:53:41 PM

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It needs to be a Clippers team and not just Harden, the thing is that they are trying to revolve around James and he's the newcomer and I don't think that will fit in. That's totally an offensive arsenal but I don't think it will work out to the very end, they are good when he's not there but right now it looks like a noob team.

But they are figuring it out and still haven't found a solution yet. It has already cost them a 5-game losing streak, which calls for desperate measures.
Probably, Coach Tyronn Lue is just trying this last option. You know, no player would be able to play happily if he is not being himself. That's why he wants James Harden to be himself and see the outcome of his game affecting the team.

I read a RUMOR on Facebook regarding what's happening with them in the locker room and apparently:

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Let Harden play off the bench instead.

Or it could be Westbrook. Either one of them could still play as a PG, so it's a coaching staff prerogative. Whoever is effective should be in the starting lineup.

If I were to pick between the 2, I would rather choose Westbrook to play off the bench.
Harden will not accept that role. Not with how high his ego is. Westbrook at least tried to play off the bench already when he was with the Lakers, and some time with the Clippers, but Harden? Since he became an all-star, he didn't start off the bench anymore, and he doesn't want that role.

Quote from: ChiBitCTy on November 15, 2023, 02:36:57 PM

Not sure if this has really been discussed her or not yet..but what do you all think about the Zach Lavine rumors? As a Chicago Bulls fan, I think we got the better of the Jimmy Butler/Lavine trade, and he's been a fun and exciting player to watch these past few years, but it's time to blow it up. Lavine is not good enough to be a teams leading star, and would fit much better as a number 2 or 3 option. The Bulls aren't heading anywhere with this team, so time to move on a rebuild. Thoughts? Also what teams do you guys think he'd be a good fit for?

Not exciting TBH like the Lillard, or the Harden trade saga.

It's pretty obvious that the Bulls are like an average team even though they have stars like Vucevic, DeRozan, and Lavine. Both Lavine and the Bulls are exploring for potential teams that want him. The Lakers, and the Heat are the top teams that can get him, but TBH, it's pretty hard to know which teams are interested in him because we might see some other teams who are talking with their front office privately.

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Harden curse is real but I don't know the articles that are popping everywhere are true about him ranting on the locker room and even Kawhi didn't skip that part of his.

Quote from: dezoel on November 15, 2023, 03:48:40 PM

Draymond "may" had the good intentions, like protect your friend, but headlock, and for that long, wasn't the way to do it. It's famously known that Draymond is a dirty player, he was the reason why Warriors lost a whole title, because he kept on kicking others, dude is a dirty player through and through, and this was one of those moments when he did what he does, and I hope he gets at least a few games suspension.

Dray is like the gangster of the team and he's ready to go all in if ever one of his brothers get in trouble. But his approach is wrong while there's no real danger on it, he's the one that brings danger to the team and to the ones he thought brought danger.

What's the decision on him, will he get some few games of suspension?

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Quote from: Oasisman on November 15, 2023, 06:10:34 PM

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A couple of good matchups being televised on ESPN tonight. First up you have the Boston Celtics vs the Philadelphia 76ers. Both have an 8-2 record so that will be a good matchup. Then you have the 2 best teams in California right now, the Los Angeles Lakers and the Sacramento Kings facing off. Both should be great games to watch, but I’ll stay away from making any bets.

Lakers and Sacramento will be a good match up today. I thought it would be a good idea to bet over 230+ for this game since both team are on fire coming out of a fresh W dropping 130+ for each of their respective opponent. Both Lakers and Sacramento shot over 55%, but the Lakers were hotter in shooting outside the arc with over 60% fg made. I think the Lakers could still continue with their hot streak despite of their back to back game, since LeBron, AD, and most of their starting lineups were well rested late in the 3rd until the 4th quarter. What you guys think? lol

Looking at the odds, the Lakers are the underdog, so just by then numbers, it's a good bet on them at ML. However, the gap is not that big though, 1.84 for Sacramento and 2.01 for Lakers. It's definitely a high scoring game, as this two teams are known to have a very fast pace game.

Lakers is good playing at home, they are 5-0, while the Kings are 1-3 away from home.

So yeah, I think it's a good bet on the Lakers and the odds are very appealing to say the least. It might be very close game, who knows, maybe this game will go into overtime, hehehe.

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Quote from: OgNasty on November 15, 2023, 02:03:48 PM

A couple of good matchups being televised on ESPN tonight. First up you have the Boston Celtics vs the Philadelphia 76ers. Both have an 8-2 record so that will be a good matchup. Then you have the 2 best teams in California right now, the Los Angeles Lakers and the Sacramento Kings facing off. Both should be great games to watch, but I’ll stay away from making any bets.

Lakers and Sacramento will be a good match up today. I thought it would be a good idea to bet over 230+ for this game since both team are on fire coming out of a fresh W dropping 130+ for each of their respective opponent. Both Lakers and Sacramento shot over 55%, but the Lakers were hotter in shooting outside the arc with over 60% fg made. I think the Lakers could still continue with their hot streak despite of their back to back game, since LeBron, AD, and most of their starting lineups were well rested late in the 3rd until the 4th quarter. What you guys think? lol

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Quote from: dezoel on November 15, 2023, 03:48:40 PM

When we are talking about "fighting" in NBA, not that many players throw punches, this is as hardcore as it gets. Draymond Green didn't do himself justice by keeping Gobert in headlock for that long, I understand wanting to protect your teammate, but you should just push or hold somewhere else, like grab Gobert by the waist and pull him away, that could make sense, there were many other players there that separated the fight, none of them did a headlock, look at all the players on the court, they are all trying to separate Klay but nobody gave another player headlock, that's not how it works.

Draymond "may" had the good intentions, like protect your friend, but headlock, and for that long, wasn't the way to do it. It's famously known that Draymond is a dirty player, he was the reason why Warriors lost a whole title, because he kept on kicking others, dude is a dirty player through and through, and this was one of those moments when he did what he does, and I hope he gets at least a few games suspension.

The way I look at it, Gobert is just standing there, no aggressive move on his part, maybe he was there to separate his team mates as well, but Draymond just rush in and choosing to choke hold Gobert. Good thing that Gobert stay cools after that one, if he chooses to go to Green it could be another Malice in the Palace. He should be fine and suspended for that and so the Warriors season are a messed right now.

For Lavine case, maybe it's time for him to find a new team. The management built a good players around him as he was obviously their main man. Unfortunately, it still didn't materialized, they barely make it to the first round of the playoffs. But the question is why Lakers?

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Quote from: Natalim on November 15, 2023, 08:03:55 AM

Quote from: Yogee on November 15, 2023, 07:43:32 AM

Yes the acquisition of VanVleet and Brooks turned out to be very good for this team. Jalen Seems more comfortable now and then they have Alperen Sengun who is having his best season so far. A balance team with 5 players averaging double figures in PPG.

I still have doubts on both teams making it to the playoffs but it's a breath of fresh air seeing them on top.

That's one of the reasons, I guess, but I believe the main reason is hiring this guy (Ime Udoka) to do the coaching job. He was terminated in Boston due to some controversy, but prior to that, he already made Boston what they are now. So, I believe he is a talented coach, and I would not be surprised if the Rockets make it to the playoffs this season.

Yeah, it's the combination, they took a risk on VanFleet and it's paying right now, same as hiring a new coach to guide their team. And every one is contributing, Alperen Şengün is turning out to be a good big man indeed. And then we have the young Jalen Green, Jabari Smith. Even the old Jeff Green has one game wherein he put great numbers.

So let's see how far the Houston Rockets are going to be, but I'm expecting them to be in the playoffs if they continue to play with this high intensity.

I like it when they are being underestimated or being the underdog so that we can get our money's worth when we bet on them.

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When we are talking about "fighting" in NBA, not that many players throw punches, this is as hardcore as it gets. Draymond Green didn't do himself justice by keeping Gobert in headlock for that long, I understand wanting to protect your teammate, but you should just push or hold somewhere else, like grab Gobert by the waist and pull him away, that could make sense, there were many other players there that separated the fight, none of them did a headlock, look at all the players on the court, they are all trying to separate Klay but nobody gave another player headlock, that's not how it works.

Draymond "may" had the good intentions, like protect your friend, but headlock, and for that long, wasn't the way to do it. It's famously known that Draymond is a dirty player, he was the reason why Warriors lost a whole title, because he kept on kicking others, dude is a dirty player through and through, and this was one of those moments when he did what he does, and I hope he gets at least a few games suspension.

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Quote from: ChiBitCTy on November 15, 2023, 02:36:57 PM

Not sure if this has really been discussed her or not yet..but what do you all think about the Zach Lavine rumors? As a Chicago Bulls fan, I think we got the better of the Jimmy Butler/Lavine trade, and he's been a fun and exciting player to watch these past few years, but it's time to blow it up. Lavine is not good enough to be a teams leading star, and would fit much better as a number 2 or 3 option. The Bulls aren't heading anywhere with this team, so time to move on a rebuild. Thoughts? Also what teams do you guys think he'd be a good fit for?

Chi it's time to blow it up. Not that the Knicks are any better but the way they are constructed they aren't going to compete at the highest level. Sucks althat lonzo ball has gone down but it is what it is. I'd get whatever I could for derozen and Levine in terms of young guys and picks and start over. Landing someone like wemby in the draft is where it's at unless you are landing lebron type free agents.

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Not sure if this has really been discussed her or not yet..but what do you all think about the Zach Lavine rumors? As a Chicago Bulls fan, I think we got the better of the Jimmy Butler/Lavine trade, and he's been a fun and exciting player to watch these past few years, but it's time to blow it up. Lavine is not good enough to be a teams leading star, and would fit much better as a number 2 or 3 option. The Bulls aren't heading anywhere with this team, so time to move on a rebuild. Thoughts? Also what teams do you guys think he'd be a good fit for?

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A couple of good matchups being televised on ESPN tonight. First up you have the Boston Celtics vs the Philadelphia 76ers. Both have an 8-2 record so that will be a good matchup. Then you have the 2 best teams in California right now, the Los Angeles Lakers and the Sacramento Kings facing off. Both should be great games to watch, but I’ll stay away from making any bets.

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Quote from: Eternad on November 15, 2023, 09:14:42 AM

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So ...Clippers 6 defeats in a row ? Sad

didn't Harden said out loud that "he is the system?" ...well ? where is this system he is talking about ? because so far I can't see anything.

He is the fuckin problem! Yes he contribute sometimes on points but after that he is useless on defense. Offense will not gonna win the game alone so his fuckin system is a literal disaster.

Clippers is good team before because they have good balance offense and defense while inserting Harden crumble their defense while their offense is just the same since only one person can shoot the ball one at a time so Kawhi or PG can do what he is doing with or without him while their defense becomes minus 1 with Harden.

That's the thing Harden has to learn. He was used to his time with the Rockets, where he didn't have to play good defense because he was in charge of the offense. In order to conserve his energy, he didn't defend well. But here with the Clippers, it's a different story. Everyone should defend because the game of basketball has changed a lot now, emphasizing ball movement and teamwork. If they don't play on the same page, that's when they can't win a game, even if they have the right talent.

They have a few days of rest before their next game. They're back at home and will host the Rockets, who are an underrated team with 6 win streak, opposite to what the Clippers have currently. Let's see if something good will happen.

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Quote from: ingiltere on November 15, 2023, 06:27:11 AM

New poll added. Which team has the best start?

Nuggets (9-2)
Wolves (8-2)
Sixers (8-2)
Celtics (8-2)

I have a request OP.
Why not change it to: "Which team is going to win the In-Season Tournament?"
But it's always up to you if it's not yet time to put that in the poll yet.

Quote from: OgNasty on November 15, 2023, 12:10:42 AM

What a night for MMA, I mean the NBA. First you have Klay Thompson getting his jersey ripped, then Draymond Green chokes Rudy Gobert… As if that weren’t enough, the Lakers game has Anthony Davis throwing people to the ground and clearing the benches. It must be something in their air. Everybody is losing their minds tonight.

Hilarious day with a hilarious officiating that is obviously not fair.
Why is Draymond Green ejected and Rudy Gobert gets a pass? I mean, if Draymond didn't stop him what kind of choke would Rudy do to Klay? His arms are on their way up and he is not known to be a fight-stopper so I doubt he is just stopping Klay, he is the starter actually and also known with anger management.
It will be funnier if the NBA will give Draymond a suspension. Do it, Adam Silver. Cheesy

Anyway, the Nuggets almost lost their chance to win another In-Season home game by being careless with their lead. They still won though thanks to the efforts of Gordon who cleaned up a lot of missed shots. I think the LA Clippers are getting their chemistry back, especially PG13 and Harden. 56 combined points and the trust in Harden is starting to build up again. He ain't choking anymore, it will just be a matter of time before he comes back to being the offensive monster.

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Quote from: Russlenat on November 15, 2023, 09:21:50 AM

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And the teams that pops up in the trade is Los Angeles Lakers. But now sure what kind of trade package it will be. LA looks solid at this point, but if they are interested of acquiring Lavine, then something has to be given up.

The Lakers consistently acquire star players, even with an already stacked roster. I believe they should give other teams a chance, such as the Miami Heat, who have struggled to secure players like Lillard and are eager to enhance their lineup. Hopefully, they could successfully acquire Lavine. I think Lavine would thrive in a team without a dominant star player like Jimmy. If he joins the Lakers, he may find himself constantly in the shadow of LeBron, regardless of his individual skills.

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Lakers do all they can just to secure a championship and help to solidify the legacy of Lebron. But they didn't consider how risky this is for their team since acquiring a lot of stars would provably create a disaster to them since they might get a chemistry issue the same on what's happening on Clippers. They have solid stack already and they just need to improve their gameplays also their chemistry since if they can make their strong roster work together then for sure winning a chip is no problem with them. But its seems they can't wait and want quick result so provably with this they will struggle but let see if they can successfully acquired those rumored players and it will not snatch by other team since they also want that guy to land on their own team and build a strong roster.

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Quote from: btc_angela on November 14, 2023, 08:27:49 PM

And the teams that pops up in the trade is Los Angeles Lakers. But now sure what kind of trade package it will be. LA looks solid at this point, but if they are interested of acquiring Lavine, then something has to be given up.

The Lakers consistently acquire star players, even with an already stacked roster. I believe they should give other teams a chance, such as the Miami Heat, who have struggled to secure players like Lillard and are eager to enhance their lineup. Hopefully, they could successfully acquire Lavine. I think Lavine would thrive in a team without a dominant star player like Jimmy. If he joins the Lakers, he may find himself constantly in the shadow of LeBron, regardless of his individual skills.

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Miami Heat listed as favorites to land Zach LaVine if Chicago Bulls deal him before 2024 NBA trade deadline

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In light of missing out on Damian Lillard, Jrue Holiday and Bradley Beal in the offseason, the Miami Heat are listed as the favorites to land Chicago Bulls guard Zach LaVine if he is dealt prior to the 2024 trade deadline with +260 odds, according to Bovada.

There's even a betting odds on that.

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Quote from: boltz on November 15, 2023, 08:34:31 AM

So ...Clippers 6 defeats in a row ? Sad

didn't Harden said out loud that "he is the system?" ...well ? where is this system he is talking about ? because so far I can't see anything.

He is the fuckin problem! Yes he contribute sometimes on points but after that he is useless on defense. Offense will not gonna win the game alone so his fuckin system is a literal disaster.

Clippers is good team before because they have good balance offense and defense while inserting Harden crumble their defense while their offense is just the same since only one person can shoot the ball one at a time so Kawhi or PG can do what he is doing with or without him while their defense becomes minus 1 with Harden.

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Quote from: Russlenat on November 14, 2023, 05:53:41 PM

Quote from: rhomelmabini on November 14, 2023, 05:46:08 PM

It needs to be a Clippers team and not just Harden, the thing is that they are trying to revolve around James and he's the newcomer and I don't think that will fit in. That's totally an offensive arsenal but I don't think it will work out to the very end, they are good when he's not there but right now it looks like a noob team.

But they are figuring it out and still haven't found a solution yet. It has already cost them a 5-game losing streak, which calls for desperate measures.
Probably, Coach Tyronn Lue is just trying this last option. You know, no player would be able to play happily if he is not being himself. That's why he wants James Harden to be himself and see the outcome of his game affecting the team.

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Let Harden play off the bench instead.

Or it could be Westbrook. Either one of them could still play as a PG, so it's a coaching staff prerogative. Whoever is effective should be in the starting lineup.

That was probably the best motivation he could give but it's easier said than done, he's not getting young it was probably just a bad choice of trade by the Clippers. I think Brody plays better with him right now and that's the resort I think they should think of, it's not like he'll want another trade just because he's been off the bench, maybe that's better solution to found himself.

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Quote from: yazher on November 15, 2023, 08:22:40 AM

Quote from: OgNasty on November 15, 2023, 12:10:42 AM

What a night for MMA, I mean the NBA. First you have Klay Thompson getting his jersey ripped, then Draymond Green chokes Rudy Gobert… As if that weren’t enough, the Lakers game has Anthony Davis throwing people to the ground and clearing the benches. It must be something in their air. Everybody is losing their minds tonight.

The pressure of getting back to the finals is getting the good of them, showing some MMA scenario on the court as if there are no consequences with it. If only they were winning more often, they would just cool and their self restraint is at a high level but this time they are rushing things as if they are losing much time when they lose more games than expected and this is not really good for their team if they act such way, I mean, there will be no sportsmanship anymore if this gonna happen again.

Draymond is at it again; he always lives up to his reputation, so it's just right that he was ejected in that game. He probably will even be fine with what he did, choking Gobert, who was just trying to prevent the fight from escalating. But, of course, the Warriors are still the Warriors. They face this struggle early this season, so let's still be optimistic that they'll be able to fix this problem eventually. However, Draymond is not really a good example for the fans.

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I did express my vote for 76ers even if they lost last night against Pacers , they are still the best team so far ( on my opinion ).

I could have count in Celtics as well but we all know they need more time during the season in order to get to full potential but for 76ers it's simple because they will looks like this for the rest of the season and will not improve much.

So ...Clippers 6 defeats in a row ? Sad

didn't Harden said out loud that "he is the system?" ...well ? where is this system he is talking about ? because so far I can't see anything.

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Quote from: OgNasty on November 15, 2023, 12:10:42 AM

What a night for MMA, I mean the NBA. First you have Klay Thompson getting his jersey ripped, then Draymond Green chokes Rudy Gobert… As if that weren’t enough, the Lakers game has Anthony Davis throwing people to the ground and clearing the benches. It must be something in their air. Everybody is losing their minds tonight.

The pressure of getting back to the finals is getting the good of them, showing some MMA scenario on the court as if there are no consequences with it. If only they were winning more often, they would just cool and their self restraint is at a high level but this time they are rushing things as if they are losing much time when they lose more games than expected and this is not really good for their team if they act such way, I mean, there will be no sportsmanship anymore if this gonna happen again.

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Quote from: Yogee on November 15, 2023, 07:43:32 AM

Yes the acquisition of VanVleet and Brooks turned out to be very good for this team. Jalen Seems more comfortable now and then they have Alperen Sengun who is having his best season so far. A balance team with 5 players averaging double figures in PPG.

I still have doubts on both teams making it to the playoffs but it's a breath of fresh air seeing them on top.

That's one of the reasons, I guess, but I believe the main reason is hiring this guy (Ime Udoka) to do the coaching job. He was terminated in Boston due to some controversy, but prior to that, he already made Boston what they are now. So, I believe he is a talented coach, and I would not be surprised if the Rockets make it to the playoffs this season.

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