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January 09, 2024, 03:55:26 AM
Yes, that's true... I even dare to say that currently Lakers are an underrated team, but they could surprise everyone as i said before, I could even include the Warriors, but I believe that this NBA season the Lakers have a greater chance of making the playoffs than GSW.

They can really surprise everyone with their teamwork and they proved it against the Red Hot Clippers by beating them in a fair game. If only they could not lose some more games after this one, their chance to reach the NBA playoffs could rise, and Yes! they have a greater chance of making it than the current GSW today and now that CP3 is resting because of injury, they cannot get any more chances to win unless they will gonna come up with a working plan with their other bench player but as we know GSW dynasty on championship has already ended this season because of the way they are playing.
The Warriors dynasty ended years ago... I believe these are all phases, when Durant joined the Warriors, they became a super team, but slowly they dissolved, Durant left the team, Curry's and Thompson's performance was decreasing year after year and now GSW has this problem with Draymond Green...
Well, I believe that the Warriors need to reformulate themselves and adapt to this new reality to continue to be a competitive team and achieve a seed in the playoffs.
GSW's next game will be against the Pelicans, it will be a difficult game, but I have no doubt it will be an interesting game to watch.

It's really unpredictable as Klay is no longer consistent and without his production, most of the time they are losing the game, adjustment is needed
for this squad as most of the team are really competitive and capable in beating them.

No more dominance as even how hot Curry will be, without the good support from everyone it is still not enough in winning the game.

Not sure about the trade rumor for Wiggins but if ever that trade is true, they should hire a good 2-way player like him, someone who
can easily adopt and adjust with what role the team needs him to play.
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January 09, 2024, 02:59:03 AM
They’re saying Ja Morant is out for the season with his injury now. Ouch. The dangers of making a star athlete sit idle for so long… It’s quite possible he’ll never be the same after this and it’s very likely the result of his suspension. Not the greatest look for the NBA.
What bad news, Steve Adams was also injured and now Ja Morant was also injured, what a bad time for the Grizzlies, anyway, I hope they make a good recovery and return as soon as possible.

Talking about injuries, was the hamstring injury that Tyrese Haliburton suffered was something serious? Any update?

That's sad, the shoulder injury could affect his shooting and since he is a very aggressive player, he could be prone to injury. I hope the injury isn't that bad though, but it's a season ending injury. I can't believe we will lose another entertaining star this season, now the Memphis are done.

The news about the injury.
Grizzlies star Ja Morant to undergo season-ending shoulder surgery after tearing labrum at practice

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Ja Morant’s season is over.

Morant sustained a torn labrum in his right shoulder and is set to undergo season-ending surgery in the coming days, the Memphis Grizzlies announced on Monday night. Morant sustained the injury in a training session on Saturday, the team said, and an MRI confirmed the injury on Monday.
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January 09, 2024, 02:48:54 AM
They still won a ring without Durant though, so not sure if it ended with him. But that was like 2 years ago and it was as different Warriors know. That time they really have a lot of good role players who's willing to do everything in the court.

But now with their issues like Draymond Green indefinite suspension and then Klay having his shooting slump, Curry not the same anymore and then their role players is not at deep as before, the Warriors might have ended their dynasty already this year and it's going to be very hard for them to make the playoffs.
Good thinking, I had forgotten that GSW won the 2021/2022 season without Kevin Durant. But I have no doubt that the best team in the history of the Warriors was the 2016/2017 - 2017/2018 season. From this season onwards, I believe that the Warriors' level has gradually decreased.
By the way, Draymond Green, he was reinstated to the NBA and will be active again soon... well, I just don't know if he'll remain with the Warriors or possibly be traded to another team.

They’re saying Ja Morant is out for the season with his injury now. Ouch. The dangers of making a star athlete sit idle for so long… It’s quite possible he’ll never be the same after this and it’s very likely the result of his suspension. Not the greatest look for the NBA.
What bad news, Steve Adams was also injured and now Ja Morant was also injured, what a bad time for the Grizzlies, anyway, I hope they make a good recovery and return as soon as possible.

Talking about injuries, was the hamstring injury that Tyrese Haliburton suffered was something serious? Any update?
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January 09, 2024, 01:57:57 AM
It became clear that the losses in the Lakers were psychological.
Los Angeles Lakers, who lost four of their last five games, beat a team like Los Angeles Clippers by 106-103.
The Clippers were definitely the clear favorite in the match, but the Lakers won and got a surprise victory.
The Lakers will play two more games at home on Wednesday and Friday and will face Toronto on Wednesday. Toronto will be the favorite in the match. Because Toronto's away statistics are considered good. If the Lakers pass the Toronto hurdle, we can comment that the team is starting to form again.

If you look at the results of the games since the end of the play-in tournament, this is only the 4th win for the Lakers since that time. However, I think there is no doubt in anyone's mind that the Lakers are capable of competing with top teams, although they are still far from reaching their full potential on the court. By the way, even if the Lakers win the next game, it won't mean anything because the Raptors are still a weak opponent.

Yes, the Lakers are a very out-of-form team right now, but it would be a surprise if they beat the Clippers. Because the Clippers were a more fit team. The biggest factor in this is the way basketball players concentrate on the match. Since the Clippers are Los Angeles' team, the Lakers basketball players were more concentrated.
If they finish the Toronto match with a win, it means something is changing.
If they lose to Toronto, there is no change and the Los Angeles Lakers will play such unbalanced games this year.
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January 09, 2024, 01:55:27 AM
They’re saying Ja Morant is out for the season with his injury now. Ouch. The dangers of making a star athlete sit idle for so long… It’s quite possible he’ll never be the same after this and it’s very likely the result of his suspension. Not the greatest look for the NBA.
A quick google search put me on a reliable website saying that:
Although Memphis Grizzlies is currently at the bottom of the NBA standing, it's not that the absence of Ja Morant will have a big impact on them the whole season. Last season, if you guys remember, the Grizzlies were even better when Morant was out or should I say, their win-loss percentage with or without Morant on the floor is just balanced.

With Morant's long suspension and absence from several Grizzlies' games, their players are now used to playing without Morant. Though there is no doubt that Morant is the main guy in the Grizzlies, his absence can be covered by some of their good role players like Desmond Bane, Jaren Jackson, and Marcus Smart.
Last season was different.

At that time, even though they don't have Morant, they have Tyus Jones who played as their back-up PG at that time, and they really played well at that time. Now he's on a shitty team right now in Wizards, and the Grizzlies don't have any reliable PG to start with. Who are the PG's in their current roster. Morant, Rose, and Smart. Morant is now out for the season, Rose only plays limited minutes (I don't know why), and that remains Smart as their PG for the whole season. Smart isn't a real PG because his position is different when he's still with the Celtics. I guess the Grizzlies will use Rose more often now.

Last season is different from this season because of roster changes, and unfortunately, it's season over for them. Just look at how they played in their first 25 games. You will expect that they will have a record almost same if not better than that one.
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January 08, 2024, 10:58:11 PM
They’re saying Ja Morant is out for the season with his injury now. Ouch. The dangers of making a star athlete sit idle for so long… It’s quite possible he’ll never be the same after this and it’s very likely the result of his suspension. Not the greatest look for the NBA.

Although Memphis Grizzlies is currently at the bottom of the NBA standing, it's not that the absence of Ja Morant will have a big impact on them the whole season. Last season, if you guys remember, the Grizzlies were even better when Morant was out or should I say, their win-loss percentage with or without Morant on the floor is just balanced.

With Morant's long suspension and absence from several Grizzlies' games, their players are now used to playing without Morant. Though there is no doubt that Morant is the main guy in the Grizzlies, his absence can be covered by some of their good role players like Desmond Bane, Jaren Jackson, and Marcus Smart.

Feel bad for what happened to Morant in his career. Aside from his problematic behavior and sometimes exercising his bragging rights, he's now facing a bad injury or maybe worse, as that shoulder injury might likely change his usual athletic playing style.
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January 08, 2024, 10:41:48 PM
They’re saying Ja Morant is out for the season with his injury now. Ouch. The dangers of making a star athlete sit idle for so long… It’s quite possible he’ll never be the same after this and it’s very likely the result of his suspension. Not the greatest look for the NBA.
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January 08, 2024, 10:11:53 PM
Heat was better even without Jimmy Buckets. Balanced first half but Heat took control in third quarter. Herro and Adebayo did the job well.
Jaime Jaquez Jr.'s development is going pretty good. He plays as he isn't drafted from 18th but top 8.

Honestly I kinda tired watching Rockets games every night. I memorized all of their plays. Probably national broadcaster pick Rockets games because of Şengün but lately they didn't spread games to all teams. Every night we have to watch either Rockets, Bucks or Celtics.
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January 08, 2024, 09:48:26 PM
Yes, that's true... I even dare to say that currently Lakers are an underrated team, but they could surprise everyone as i said before, I could even include the Warriors, but I believe that this NBA season the Lakers have a greater chance of making the playoffs than GSW.

They can really surprise everyone with their teamwork and they proved it against the Red Hot Clippers by beating them in a fair game. If only they could not lose some more games after this one, their chance to reach the NBA playoffs could rise, and Yes! they have a greater chance of making it than the current GSW today and now that CP3 is resting because of injury, they cannot get any more chances to win unless they will gonna come up with a working plan with their other bench player but as we know GSW dynasty on championship has already ended this season because of the way they are playing.
The Warriors dynasty ended years ago... I believe these are all phases, when Durant joined the Warriors, they became a super team, but slowly they dissolved, Durant left the team, Curry's and Thompson's performance was decreasing year after year and now GSW has this problem with Draymond Green...
Well, I believe that the Warriors need to reformulate themselves and adapt to this new reality to continue to be a competitive team and achieve a seed in the playoffs.
GSW's next game will be against the Pelicans, it will be a difficult game, but I have no doubt it will be an interesting game to watch.

I love the Warriors but they arent at all st the level as they were before and i need to agree with you on that. Curry is only carrying the team and he cannot play alone. Thompson is just hot or cold and if he isnt on his game the Warriors lose most of the time. Green like you said is a serious problem and needs to leave the club as fast as possible. I think their biggest mistake was letting go of Poole i was thinking he was their future.
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January 08, 2024, 08:40:36 PM
It became clear that the losses in the Lakers were psychological.
Los Angeles Lakers, who lost four of their last five games, beat a team like Los Angeles Clippers by 106-103.
The Clippers were definitely the clear favorite in the match, but the Lakers won and got a surprise victory.
The Lakers will play two more games at home on Wednesday and Friday and will face Toronto on Wednesday. Toronto will be the favorite in the match. Because Toronto's away statistics are considered good. If the Lakers pass the Toronto hurdle, we can comment that the team is starting to form again.

If you look at the results of the games since the end of the play-in tournament, this is only the 4th win for the Lakers since that time. However, I think there is no doubt in anyone's mind that the Lakers are capable of competing with top teams, although they are still far from reaching their full potential on the court. By the way, even if the Lakers win the next game, it won't mean anything because the Raptors are still a weak opponent.
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January 08, 2024, 06:53:23 PM
Yes, that's true... I even dare to say that currently Lakers are an underrated team, but they could surprise everyone as i said before, I could even include the Warriors, but I believe that this NBA season the Lakers have a greater chance of making the playoffs than GSW.

They can really surprise everyone with their teamwork and they proved it against the Red Hot Clippers by beating them in a fair game. If only they could not lose some more games after this one, their chance to reach the NBA playoffs could rise, and Yes! they have a greater chance of making it than the current GSW today and now that CP3 is resting because of injury, they cannot get any more chances to win unless they will gonna come up with a working plan with their other bench player but as we know GSW dynasty on championship has already ended this season because of the way they are playing.
The Warriors dynasty ended years ago... I believe these are all phases, when Durant joined the Warriors, they became a super team, but slowly they dissolved, Durant left the team, Curry's and Thompson's performance was decreasing year after year and now GSW has this problem with Draymond Green...
Well, I believe that the Warriors need to reformulate themselves and adapt to this new reality to continue to be a competitive team and achieve a seed in the playoffs.
GSW's next game will be against the Pelicans, it will be a difficult game, but I have no doubt it will be an interesting game to watch.

They still won a ring without Durant though, so not sure if it ended with him. But that was like 2 years ago and it was as different Warriors know. That time they really have a lot of good role players who's willing to do everything in the court.

But now with their issues like Draymond Green indefinite suspension and then Klay having his shooting slump, Curry not the same anymore and then their role players is not at deep as before, the Warriors might have ended their dynasty already this year and it's going to be very hard for them to make the playoffs.
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January 08, 2024, 06:50:08 PM
Yes, that's true... I even dare to say that currently Lakers are an underrated team, but they could surprise everyone as i said before, I could even include the Warriors, but I believe that this NBA season the Lakers have a greater chance of making the playoffs than GSW.

They can really surprise everyone with their teamwork and they proved it against the Red Hot Clippers by beating them in a fair game. If only they could not lose some more games after this one, their chance to reach the NBA playoffs could rise, and Yes! they have a greater chance of making it than the current GSW today and now that CP3 is resting because of injury, they cannot get any more chances to win unless they will gonna come up with a working plan with their other bench player but as we know GSW dynasty on championship has already ended this season because of the way they are playing.
The Warriors dynasty ended years ago... I believe these are all phases, when Durant joined the Warriors, they became a super team, but slowly they dissolved, Durant left the team, Curry's and Thompson's performance was decreasing year after year and now GSW has this problem with Draymond Green...
Well, I believe that the Warriors need to reformulate themselves and adapt to this new reality to continue to be a competitive team and achieve a seed in the playoffs.
GSW's next game will be against the Pelicans, it will be a difficult game, but I have no doubt it will be an interesting game to watch.
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January 08, 2024, 05:15:27 PM
It became clear that the losses in the Lakers were psychological.
Los Angeles Lakers, who lost four of their last five games, beat a team like Los Angeles Clippers by 106-103.
The Clippers were definitely the clear favorite in the match, but the Lakers won and got a surprise victory.
The Lakers will play two more games at home on Wednesday and Friday and will face Toronto on Wednesday. Toronto will be the favorite in the match. Because Toronto's away statistics are considered good. If the Lakers pass the Toronto hurdle, we can comment that the team is starting to form again.

If it's in LA I don't think Toronto will be favorites.  They have been killing it lately since the trade (same for the knicks).  But at home and Toronto on a west coast trip I can see the Lakers being favorite by a couple.
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About the Clippers, as a German national I am a bit disappointed they are giving Theiss such a small role yet again. He started really strong after the trade from the Pacers but now he gets so few minutes and pick and roll opportunities, they don't get the best out of him. He actually showed what he can do but right now this is not looking good.  Cry
That's what you get when there is someone playing better from the same position. No offense to Theiss and I agree that he's also good but Zubac has been doing really well as a starter. I like his chemistry and contribution around the three superstars. I cannot fault Ty Lue for giving him more minutes.

That's the case and I think Theiss knows that when he move to Clippers (I can't remember if he is traded or pick up by Clippers though). But during his stint with the Celtics he had some good games and contribute.

Going back to the games, Clippers had the advantage early in the first 2 quarters and it was just like in the last minute of the 3rd quarter that they made a small run taking a 2 point lead and that's what the Lakers needed then. AD again with a huge double double, and Lebron almost a triple double to lead the Lakers to this huge win against their rivals. Is this the game that the Lakers are going to flip themselves after the in season tournament championship win?
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January 08, 2024, 03:03:31 PM
About the Clippers, as a German national I am a bit disappointed they are giving Theiss such a small role yet again. He started really strong after the trade from the Pacers but now he gets so few minutes and pick and roll opportunities, they don't get the best out of him. He actually showed what he can do but right now this is not looking good.  Cry
They don't start well after James Harden was traded, so the decision of not giving him plenty of minutes was due to the result of their experiment. They (clippers) are in the playoff ranking now, they have more wins in the last 10 games, and that would only tell that the current set of line up, from starting to secondary are working well on their system.

Westbrook didn't even complain which is a triple double machine before, and because he played on the 2nd unit, he is getting quality minutes.

Every player has their talent, it's just a matter on which team they'll fit.
I would say it actually works a lot better for Westbrook now, which is definitely funny to see. He is not really a second unit player though, he is a sixth man, which means that they do not "start" with him, but they do use him when they need someone playing well, and sort of like Manu Ginobili rule, Ginobili wasn't a starter neither, but he did finish the games and he was one of the most important player in that squad, doesn't mean that he was second unit player just because he was the sixth man, he just ruled when the others were resting, and then rested when others joined and then they finished together, same is going on about Westbrook as well, that's important. I think it should be important to notice that difference.
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January 08, 2024, 02:11:38 PM
It became clear that the losses in the Lakers were psychological.
Los Angeles Lakers, who lost four of their last five games, beat a team like Los Angeles Clippers by 106-103.
The Clippers were definitely the clear favorite in the match, but the Lakers won and got a surprise victory.
The Lakers will play two more games at home on Wednesday and Friday and will face Toronto on Wednesday. Toronto will be the favorite in the match. Because Toronto's away statistics are considered good. If the Lakers pass the Toronto hurdle, we can comment that the team is starting to form again.
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January 08, 2024, 09:30:03 AM
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I still don't get how Spurs and Pistons tank so much when they have good players. They should at least win a couple games but they try to lose all. Smiley
I disagree with this one. They don't have good players, or I should say, they don't have enough good players to at least compete.
What do the Pistons have? Cunningham and? What do the Spurs have? Wembanyama and? They are tanking, hoping to get another high-draft pick player/s, develop it for years, and hope that it will change the franchise. Well, at least I agree with you though that even though their roster is just below average, they must get at least 10 wins before the season ends. Cheesy

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And... Guess who lead the Raptors? Great job Barrett for scoring 37 points, what a steal in the trade.
The OG Anunoby - RJ Barrett trade is for me one of the most win-win trades since the Sabonis - Haliburton. Of course, we consider the Sabonis - Haliburton trade fair during the first months as they are producing good numbers with their new teams, but over the years, we're seeing now who's the winner on that trade. As for the Knicks-Raptors trade, it's a win-win trade since both are benefiting one way or another. COngratulations to the Raptors on winning on the road though.

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About the Clippers, as a German national I am a bit disappointed they are giving Theiss such a small role yet again. He started really strong after the trade from the Pacers but now he gets so few minutes and pick and roll opportunities, they don't get the best out of him. He actually showed what he can do but right now this is not looking good.  Cry

I know that there's a bit of a bias with this since Theis is a German, but between Zubac and him, Zu is more efficient and more helpful.
He's more of a supporting big for the Clippers, and I guess it will remain like that. I mean he's role even when he's on the Celtics is just a back-up center, and it will be the same here with the Clippers since they already have a kind of reliable center. No offense to him though.

Everybody's talking here about the Lakers-Clippers, but they aren't talking about a 39-year-old player who's jumping a few inches behind the free-throw line and postering PG13. I mean who can do that right now? I wonder how Lebron James conditions himself for him to make jumps that far, and at his age, I don't know if there's anybody that's the same age as him who is as athletic as him.
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January 08, 2024, 09:13:37 AM
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About the Clippers, as a German national I am a bit disappointed they are giving Theiss such a small role yet again. He started really strong after the trade from the Pacers but now he gets so few minutes and pick and roll opportunities, they don't get the best out of him. He actually showed what he can do but right now this is not looking good.  Cry
That's what you get when there is someone playing better from the same position. No offense to Theiss and I agree that he's also good but Zubac has been doing really well as a starter. I like his chemistry and contribution around the three superstars. I cannot fault Ty Lue for giving him more minutes.
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January 08, 2024, 08:46:54 AM
They don't start well after James Harden was traded, so the decision of not giving him plenty of minutes was due to the result of their experiment. They (clippers) are in the playoff ranking now, they have more wins in the last 10 games, and that would only tell that the current set of line up, from starting to secondary are working well on their system.

Westbrook didn't even complain which is a triple double machine before, and because he played on the 2nd unit, he is getting quality minutes.

Every player has their talent, it's just a matter on which team they'll fit.
I agree, it's like everyone has to adjust for the betterment of the team. And with all of these experiments that they're doing and everyone understands it key players and not.
It seems to be working at all for them and look at the stats and their games now, they're all quality and everyone agrees to what they're doing now.

Daniel Theis is not really a superstar type of player, so he does not deserve to be in the starting line up. If we look at his average this season, he has 16.8 minutes per game with 6.8 PPG average. So it's really not much in terms of contribution, and to think that the LA Clippers has a lot of superstars, a role player can't expect to gain more minutes.

What Daniel Theis has to do is to impress the coaching staff again whenever he is on the floor, maybe he'll get an increment of minutes.

https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/t/theisda01.html
Yeah but ahoy just expressed his disappointment for his countrymen and that's understandable if you track the discussion about him.

Also, we have to consider the age factor, the big 3 ( Thompson, Curry, and Green) aren't getting any younger anymore.
If we go with their community and fan base, it's funny how the fans are mocking them when these three have been together brought glory to the dub nation.
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January 08, 2024, 08:04:26 AM
Yes, that's true... I even dare to say that currently Lakers are an underrated team, but they could surprise everyone as i said before, I could even include the Warriors, but I believe that this NBA season the Lakers have a greater chance of making the playoffs than GSW.

They can really surprise everyone with their teamwork and they proved it against the Red Hot Clippers by beating them in a fair game. If only they could not lose some more games after this one, their chance to reach the NBA playoffs could rise, and Yes! they have a greater chance of making it than the current GSW today and now that CP3 is resting because of injury, they cannot get any more chances to win unless they will gonna come up with a working plan with their other bench player but as we know GSW dynasty on championship has already ended this season because of the way they are playing.

Warriors defense aren't working fine already, they even struggle to score sometimes, and when they take a good lead, they will easily give it up. They aren't the same warriors anymore, and missing Green is really a big problem since he used to be the guy that brings energy for the team and that's why the Warriors are playing with high confidence.

Also, we have to consider the age factor, the big 3 ( Thompson, Curry, and Green) aren't getting any younger anymore.
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