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December 14, 2023, 03:54:47 PM
Wemby is getting way too much pressure on what he is doing, he is not causing the team to lose, he is all alone as a single 18-19 year old kid can't do anything, he needs other players to help him as well. Dude is a centre, he is 7'5 and can dribble like a guard, shoot threes and blocks like it's nobodies business and we are going to see him as the responsible person for this losing streak?

I think by now we should know that he can't carry Spurs, he is still a rookie and the last one if we are going back in NBA history that a rookie carry his team is Lebron James, enough said. He had a good mentor though in coach Spo, who is also known to make good players become great one. So give Wemby some time to develop and not be pressured this season.

I mean sure it looks terrible on a resume, and yes Chet is doing so well when you consider those two are compared, but the reality is that if you trade Chet and Wemby, then you would still see OKC doing awesome and Spurs doing terrible, there is really no reason we consider that Wemby is the main reason why they are going to end up losing.

Chet is on a different team, players like SGA is their franchise player, so there's no pressure on him. He just have to show every game his best performance and he is being magnified every game to the point that he is not the leading candidate for the Rookie of the year as per odds.
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December 14, 2023, 03:53:53 PM
Wemby is getting way too much pressure on what he is doing, he is not causing the team to lose, he is all alone as a single 18-19 year old kid can't do anything, he needs other players to help him as well. Dude is a centre, he is 7'5 and can dribble like a guard, shoot threes and blocks like it's nobodies business and we are going to see him as the responsible person for this losing streak?

I mean sure it looks terrible on a resume, and yes Chet is doing so well when you consider those two are compared, but the reality is that if you trade Chet and Wemby, then you would still see OKC doing awesome and Spurs doing terrible, there is really no reason we consider that Wemby is the main reason why they are going to end up losing.

I don't think anyone is claiming wemby is the reason the Spurs are losing.  They just don't have a good team.  Okc is a couple years ahead of them in the rebuild.  There is no one on the Spurs that can replicate what sga can do for okc.  Nobody is expecting the world from this guy.  If he just plays a large majority of the year and stays relatively injury free that would be a win.  Spurs are a couple draft picks AND a couple free agents away from competing at a top level.
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December 14, 2023, 03:46:44 PM
Oh my goodness! Victor Wembanyama is making history for the San Antonio Spurs franchise. Longest losing streak at 18 now. I just checked the worst NBA team losing streak and it is made by the Philadelphia 76ers at 28 straight losses. I guess the Spurs should not reached that 28-losing streak. There are 4 games that they have a chance to win against Portland, Chicago, and Utah.

Fun fact, Joel Embiid was a rookie when Philly had 28 straight losses. Luckily for Embiid, he was not healthy and never played a single game during that season. Grin

Wow! I never heard of it happening just recently in my time, I thought it was in the '90s Cheesy Grin

What exactly is the problem here? I mean what they are missing?

Because you cannot reason out that Wemby is just a rookie because he also has teammates that he can rely on. It seems like they are having trouble and they are just getting played at whenever they step on the court. they cannot afford to continue this scenario because it's too embarrassing since they don't have enough reason why they are being like this.

We really don't know what's missing except that the fact that most of their players are really very young and inexperienced and most likely in close games, their mentality is not there. But we all know that coach Pop is a great coach and motivator. He just have to really push this kid to their limits and know what and how to become a great player. Wemby is good no doubt about, by maybe it's just his mentality though.

Let's see who will be their opponent that they can beat. Yeah, the next 4 games we might see them breaking that spell. And so bettors should be looking to throw some money on them because they are going to be a big underdog against those teams but they could have a good chance to take a win.
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December 14, 2023, 03:06:56 PM
Wemby is getting way too much pressure on what he is doing, he is not causing the team to lose, he is all alone as a single 18-19 year old kid can't do anything, he needs other players to help him as well. Dude is a centre, he is 7'5 and can dribble like a guard, shoot threes and blocks like it's nobodies business and we are going to see him as the responsible person for this losing streak?

I mean sure it looks terrible on a resume, and yes Chet is doing so well when you consider those two are compared, but the reality is that if you trade Chet and Wemby, then you would still see OKC doing awesome and Spurs doing terrible, there is really no reason we consider that Wemby is the main reason why they are going to end up losing.
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December 14, 2023, 11:45:03 AM
Looks like we don’t have any nationally televised games on tonight but there are a couple of good matchups I wouldn’t have minded watching. The Timberwolves and Mavericks should be a good one as a couple of the games youngest stars face off. Then later you have the Warriors and Clippers which should be a good game as the Warriors are struggling as the Clippers are finding themselves.
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December 14, 2023, 10:20:24 AM
I also think that Spurs do this on purpose since they want to get another first round pick that's why they are not really bothered to lose this season again since as stated they are in rebuilding mode. And they are just leaving this season to develop Wemby that's the reason of all of there negative performance show in this conference. If this is the real case here then maybe there's something to investigate about and if there's a proven case of something like this happening maybe there's some changes needed to do so that they can make the league more balance and no teams would do this actions and make the league more balance then competition became more tighter since this is what fans actually like to see on each game they watch.

Coach Pop is very patient on building his rosters until they can go all out just like what they did during the years when they have Duncan and Robinson. I agree to the opinion that might be intentionally playing bad this season since their current roster is full of young athletes with potential that can’t guaranteed a championship even if they manage to enter the playoffs.

Having a 1st draft pick with height or trading their 1st draft pick to a potential player that can partner to Wemby will be their target for the next year.

Not by far to happen, for now they just need to let Wemby to learn more about the league he needed to experience all the hardship
inside the court and let his skills to continue to develop.

I like how you see the possibility, knowing Spurs management they have the resources they just need the right timing. Picking either another round
pick or a trade to much experienced star to help Wemby is also what I can smell from how coach Pop playing his cards.

More on preparation and then grind after, let see if Spurs will rise back once coach Pop complete his desire squad.
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December 14, 2023, 09:24:34 AM
Oh my goodness! Victor Wembanyama is making history for the San Antonio Spurs franchise. Longest losing streak at 18 now. I just checked the worst NBA team losing streak and it is made by the Philadelphia 76ers at 28 straight losses. I guess the Spurs should not reached that 28-losing streak. There are 4 games that they have a chance to win against Portland, Chicago, and Utah.

Fun fact, Joel Embiid was a rookie when Philly had 28 straight losses. Luckily for Embiid, he was not healthy and never played a single game during that season. Grin

We shouldn't be surprised that the Spurs lost once again.
Honestly, I don't think they'll be able to beat the Bulls and Jazz because those two teams don't look like the underdogs. However, they might have a slight chance to beat the Blazers, but I don't believe that either.
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I think it's fair to say that the Spurs have only one opponent this regular season, and that's the Pistons. I mean, these two teams will be competing with each other for the title of the worst team in the league.
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December 14, 2023, 08:42:08 AM
Oh my goodness! Victor Wembanyama is making history for the San Antonio Spurs franchise. Longest losing streak at 18 now. I just checked the worst NBA team losing streak and it is made by the Philadelphia 76ers at 28 straight losses. I guess the Spurs should not reached that 28-losing streak. There are 4 games that they have a chance to win against Portland, Chicago, and Utah.

Fun fact, Joel Embiid was a rookie when Philly had 28 straight losses. Luckily for Embiid, he was not healthy and never played a single game during that season. Grin

Wow! I never heard of it happening just recently in my time, I thought it was in the '90s Cheesy Grin

What exactly is the problem here? I mean what they are missing?

Because you cannot reason out that Wemby is just a rookie because he also has teammates that he can rely on. It seems like they are having trouble and they are just getting played at whenever they step on the court. they cannot afford to continue this scenario because it's too embarrassing since they don't have enough reason why they are being like this.
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December 14, 2023, 08:04:56 AM
I also think that Spurs do this on purpose since they want to get another first round pick that's why they are not really bothered to lose this season again since as stated they are in rebuilding mode. And they are just leaving this season to develop Wemby that's the reason of all of there negative performance show in this conference. If this is the real case here then maybe there's something to investigate about and if there's a proven case of something like this happening maybe there's some changes needed to do so that they can make the league more balance and no teams would do this actions and make the league more balance then competition became more tighter since this is what fans actually like to see on each game they watch.

Coach Pop is very patient on building his rosters until they can go all out just like what they did during the years when they have Duncan and Robinson. I agree to the opinion that might be intentionally playing bad this season since their current roster is full of young athletes with potential that can’t guaranteed a championship even if they manage to enter the playoffs.

Having a 1st draft pick with height or trading their 1st draft pick to a potential player that can partner to Wemby will be their target for the next year.

You have no idea what you are saying, "playing intentionally bad" is not gonna help them otherwise, before they could get their new first pick, their business will be going bankrupt.

Do you have an idea how it will affect on revenue, when the Spurs aren't playing well that means people won't be watching their games. And it's self explanatory, so I don't want to explain further because if you have an idea about running a profitable business, you'll understand my statement.
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December 14, 2023, 08:00:50 AM

Maybe it is time for the draft lottery mechanics to change. I do not agree anymore that these worst-performing teams should get the highest chances of getting the number 1 pick. I would like it more if all teams that failed to qualify for the playoffs should have an equal percentage of getting the number 1 pick.

I don't think they'll work on changing the current rules with your suggestion. What the NBA is trying to achieve here is on balancing the NBA, and that every team are going to benefit and the fans would be interested in watching. Just like the 76ers before, they had a bunch of number 1 pick before they actually become a good team, so it's quite helpful that way.

Spurs may struggle so hard this season, if they'll get another first round pick, then most likely they'll not end up at the bottom again.

I also think that Spurs do this on purpose since they want to get another first round pick that's why they are not really bothered to lose this season again since as stated they are in rebuilding mode. And they are just leaving this season to develop Wemby that's the reason of all of there negative performance show in this conference. If this is the real case here then maybe there's something to investigate about and if there's a proven case of something like this happening maybe there's some changes needed to do so that they can make the league more balance and no teams would do this actions and make the league more balance then competition became more tighter since this is what fans actually like to see on each game they watch.

It's weird though if we assumed that Spurs management is doing it on purpose though. They have a great organizations, they have proven that they are a championship caliber team already. So it's very hard to think that coach Spo is doing or letting his team to have that losing streak or the worst team just to be able to get another first round pick. They will have to win and then developed Wemby so that the Spurs will be back on top again. So it might take years though to developed their young player. But if they found the secret formula or at least they know what the blue print is, then definitely they will be back in the number 2 seasons. So let's see how and when they are going to break that losing streak. Who knows, maybe before Christmas they will have a "gift".
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December 14, 2023, 07:52:26 AM
I also think that Spurs do this on purpose since they want to get another first round pick that's why they are not really bothered to lose this season again since as stated they are in rebuilding mode. And they are just leaving this season to develop Wemby that's the reason of all of there negative performance show in this conference. If this is the real case here then maybe there's something to investigate about and if there's a proven case of something like this happening maybe there's some changes needed to do so that they can make the league more balance and no teams would do this actions and make the league more balance then competition became more tighter since this is what fans actually like to see on each game they watch.

Coach Pop is very patient on building his rosters until they can go all out just like what they did during the years when they have Duncan and Robinson. I agree to the opinion that might be intentionally playing bad this season since their current roster is full of young athletes with potential that can’t guaranteed a championship even if they manage to enter the playoffs.

Having a 1st draft pick with height or trading their 1st draft pick to a potential player that can partner to Wemby will be their target for the next year.
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December 14, 2023, 07:46:59 AM

Maybe it is time for the draft lottery mechanics to change. I do not agree anymore that these worst-performing teams should get the highest chances of getting the number 1 pick. I would like it more if all teams that failed to qualify for the playoffs should have an equal percentage of getting the number 1 pick.

I don't think they'll work on changing the current rules with your suggestion. What the NBA is trying to achieve here is on balancing the NBA, and that every team are going to benefit and the fans would be interested in watching. Just like the 76ers before, they had a bunch of number 1 pick before they actually become a good team, so it's quite helpful that way.

Spurs may struggle so hard this season, if they'll get another first round pick, then most likely they'll not end up at the bottom again.

I also think that Spurs do this on purpose since they want to get another first round pick that's why they are not really bothered to lose this season again since as stated they are in rebuilding mode. And they are just leaving this season to develop Wemby that's the reason of all of there negative performance show in this conference.

That's crazy assumption. Why would coach Pop do that, it will only tarnish his legacy in the NBA.
He is one of the best coach in the NBA and would do that stupid things, I think your imagination is beyond the reality, hehe.. but I respect what you think mate.


If this is the real case here then maybe there's something to investigate about and if there's a proven case of something like this happening maybe there's some changes needed to do so that they can make the league more balance and no teams would do this actions and make the league more balance then competition became more tighter since this is what fans actually like to see on each game they watch.

NBA did make the rules, teams are just following or playing with the rules, and as long as their strategy doesn't violate the rules, there's nothing to investigate on this matter. And besides, if Spurs would get another top 1 draft pick, that doesn't guarantee them to become a playoff team.
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December 14, 2023, 07:33:25 AM

Maybe it is time for the draft lottery mechanics to change. I do not agree anymore that these worst-performing teams should get the highest chances of getting the number 1 pick. I would like it more if all teams that failed to qualify for the playoffs should have an equal percentage of getting the number 1 pick.

I don't think they'll work on changing the current rules with your suggestion. What the NBA is trying to achieve here is on balancing the NBA, and that every team are going to benefit and the fans would be interested in watching. Just like the 76ers before, they had a bunch of number 1 pick before they actually become a good team, so it's quite helpful that way.

Spurs may struggle so hard this season, if they'll get another first round pick, then most likely they'll not end up at the bottom again.

I also think that Spurs do this on purpose since they want to get another first round pick that's why they are not really bothered to lose this season again since as stated they are in rebuilding mode. And they are just leaving this season to develop Wemby that's the reason of all of there negative performance show in this conference. If this is the real case here then maybe there's something to investigate about and if there's a proven case of something like this happening maybe there's some changes needed to do so that they can make the league more balance and no teams would do this actions and make the league more balance then competition became more tighter since this is what fans actually like to see on each game they watch.
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December 14, 2023, 07:12:39 AM
Honestly Nurkic is right, Draymond seriously needs some counselling and help. At this point I can say that it is at a "psychological help" level, he needs to go see some professional about this, and I am not sure if he does or not, but I am pretty sure that he needs to do that a lot better, if he is already seeing someone then he needs to change that person because obviously it is not helping.

His defence was "he was holding me", really Draymond? Really? He was grabbing your waist so it was only natural that you got mad and swing at him? That's the defence? He must realize that he has been hurting the team a lot lately and at this stage I am pretty sure that if Warriors just cut him and let him leave, literally like waive him, they would be even better.
Whatever the reason is, Green must not do that to another player. I mean yes he's a great defender, and we've seen it in his whole career, but the thing that I don't like about him is those unnecessary movements that cause him to miss many games, and miss multiple thousands of dollars as well.

I'm a Warriors fan, and even though they're struggling in their last 15 games getting a 4-11 win-loss record, I still don't want how Draymond is playing this season. Just imagine, it's not halfway through the season, and he got many technicals, and ejections already:
  • Received 2 technical fouls against the Cavaliers that caused him to get ejected.
  • Choked Rudy Gobert, and got suspended for only 5 games.
  • Now he just punched Nurkic and got suspended indefinitely.
I love his energy inside the court, but that's too much, and for sure many here will agree with how the NBA handled the situation, and gave the suspension to him. The problems in the Warriors are starting to emerge already. Thompson and Wiggins aren't contributing offensively, and now Green getting an indefinite suspension. I guess it's good that the bench and the rookies are starting to step up as well. Players like Kuminga, Podziemsky, Saric, and others are stepping up offensively to help Curry at least.

I will not be surprised if there will be a time where Coach Steve Kerr will try to start players like Kuminga, and Saric in some of their games especially if they're contributing on offense. Good luck to the Warriors I guess, and I hope they will cope up with their problems that they're facing.
I have the same thought as a fan of the Warriors. He crossed the line by doing too many aggressive attacks. I think he forgets that there's a camera all over the basketball floor. I love his energy but that's too much. I don't think he can get out of this mess. Well, he did it and I bet he is ready for the consequences.

"Suspended indefinitely." I saw that Woj tweet.
This is more hardcore than those who are suspended for an exact number of games or days. I think Adam Silver and his crew will be reviewing every possible action for this mess and may take the sides of others who are there.

Too many horrible things. Let's look at the bright side. Who saw that Luka pass yesterday? It's trending in social media.
Luka Doncic insane no look pass from behind Jaxson Hayes back to Dante Exum
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WoJPadJB0_s

Even the cameraman cannot see to whom the pass will go.
Reggie Miller was also surprised at what happened. Luka Magic!
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December 14, 2023, 07:02:51 AM

Maybe it is time for the draft lottery mechanics to change. I do not agree anymore that these worst-performing teams should get the highest chances of getting the number 1 pick. I would like it more if all teams that failed to qualify for the playoffs should have an equal percentage of getting the number 1 pick.

I don't think they'll work on changing the current rules with your suggestion. What the NBA is trying to achieve here is on balancing the NBA, and that every team are going to benefit and the fans would be interested in watching. Just like the 76ers before, they had a bunch of number 1 pick before they actually become a good team, so it's quite helpful that way.

Spurs may struggle so hard this season, if they'll get another first round pick, then most likely they'll not end up at the bottom again.
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December 14, 2023, 05:55:48 AM
I haven't noticed one. But I would love to see special odds on the current Spurs' losing streak.

Not in our crypto sportsbook but it's available at betonline.

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Detroit, losers of 20 straight games, currently sits at -130 odds to end their streak at 24 games or under, per BetOnline. Odds the team's futility extends past 24 games are at -110. San Antonio, meanwhile, has lost 17 consecutive games. Odds for the Spurs to end their streak before it reaches 22 games are -110, and odds for it to extend past that threshold are at -130.

Bettors can also wager on which team gets its next win first, with odds for Detroit coming in at -140 and San Antonio at +100. Prefer against playing favorites among the two worst teams in basketball? In that case, you can bet on their combined losing streak—at 37 games entering Tuesday's action—at an over-under of 46.5 games, with -120 odds on other side of that mark.
https://clutchpoints.com/nba-odds-pistons-spurs-historic-losing-streak-totals-get-eye-opening-vegas-updates

I haven't check it since I don't have an account at that sportsbook, but if there's someone here who have an account. Perhaps they can verify, and hopefully  we can see some odds from crypto sportsbook, maybe not on the books I'm using but it exist with other crypto sportsbook.
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December 14, 2023, 05:35:55 AM
Oh my goodness! Victor Wembanyama is making history for the San Antonio Spurs franchise. Longest losing streak at 18 now. I just checked the worst NBA team losing streak and it is made by the Philadelphia 76ers at 28 straight losses. I guess the Spurs should not reached that 28-losing streak. There are 4 games that they have a chance to win against Portland, Chicago, and Utah.

Fun fact, Joel Embiid was a rookie when Philly had 28 straight losses. Luckily for Embiid, he was not healthy and never played a single game during that season. Grin

I don't know if there was line on when the Spurs are going to break that losing streak.

But they could have a good chances on the next 4 games against those teams as they are also struggling if I'm not mistaken. Portland, still in the post-Dame era. Chicago Bulls, rumor of a Zach Lavine Trade. And then the Jazz, still can't find their rhythm, 4 out of their last 10 games.

I haven't noticed one. But I would love to see special odds on the current Spurs' losing streak. So far I am having profits at least. I just have to catch during game times when the Spurs are leading or behind a little. And of course, the team they are playing with should be from the bottom 4 or 5 of the west and east. A minimum of 1.40 odds and I'm good already.

Maybe it is time for the draft lottery mechanics to change. I do not agree anymore that these worst-performing teams should get the highest chances of getting the number 1 pick. I would like it more if all teams that failed to qualify for the playoffs should have an equal percentage of getting the number 1 pick.
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December 14, 2023, 04:39:47 AM
Oh my goodness! Victor Wembanyama is making history for the San Antonio Spurs franchise. Longest losing streak at 18 now. I just checked the worst NBA team losing streak and it is made by the Philadelphia 76ers at 28 straight losses. I guess the Spurs should not reached that 28-losing streak. There are 4 games that they have a chance to win against Portland, Chicago, and Utah.

Fun fact, Joel Embiid was a rookie when Philly had 28 straight losses. Luckily for Embiid, he was not healthy and never played a single game during that season. Grin

I don't know if there was line on when the Spurs are going to break that losing streak.

But they could have a good chances on the next 4 games against those teams as they are also struggling if I'm not mistaken. Portland, still in the post-Dame era. Chicago Bulls, rumor of a Zach Lavine Trade. And then the Jazz, still can't find their rhythm, 4 out of their last 10 games.
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December 14, 2023, 04:30:29 AM
Oh my goodness! Victor Wembanyama is making history for the San Antonio Spurs franchise. Longest losing streak at 18 now. I just checked the worst NBA team losing streak and it is made by the Philadelphia 76ers at 28 straight losses. I guess the Spurs should not reached that 28-losing streak. There are 4 games that they have a chance to win against Portland, Chicago, and Utah.

Fun fact, Joel Embiid was a rookie when Philly had 28 straight losses. Luckily for Embiid, he was not healthy and never played a single game during that season. Grin
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December 14, 2023, 03:28:59 AM
^^ Yes, it was those familiar faces, an favorites Cam Johnson and Mikal Bridges, although they have been given "thank you", to give credits to the contributions of the two when they are still with the Suns. However, they the two combined for 36 points to overshadow the debut of Suns big 3 in Booker, Durant and Beal.

And it was a balance scoring for the Nets, clutch shooting and good defense, to spoil the Suns.

The Suns was not able to sustain though, in the 3rd quarter they took a 6 point lead if I'm not mistaken. And I thought that they are go to win, but in the last minutes, the Nets cut those lead into 2 entering the fourth. Same story, Nets catching up, and then Suns tying the score. But the Nets play good defense in the last 4 minutes.
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