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December 14, 2023, 03:18:31 AM
Called all my games right today. Always a nice thing. Funniest moment of the night definitely went to the Indiana Pacers who stole the game ball after their loss to the Bucks. Giannis wanted to ball to commemorate his 64 point career high scoring performance. Amazing night for him no doubt and he was not happy about the Pacers taking his ball.

Good job and congrats. Me, I lose my bet on the Pacers. I thought they'll have the same performance the last time they met but turns out it was a different outcome this time. Luckily, I was still up as I won most of my bets since most of the high favorites covers, so it's a good day for me, looking forward for another action tomorrow with a profitable ending.
Me I lost my bet on the Suns, I thought that they are going to easily beat the Nets in their homecourt. But two former Suns players, Bridges and Cam Johnson did the job for the Nets.

Although Booker really wanted to get the win, as he is working very hard to go and play defense and then pick and roll for him to score 34 points, there are no bench scoring for the Suns. It was all their big 3.

Going back to the Warriors, might not be the season for them. Draymond is out of control and Steve Kerr can't find the perfect combination.
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December 14, 2023, 02:42:15 AM
Honestly Nurkic is right, Draymond seriously needs some counselling and help. At this point I can say that it is at a "psychological help" level, he needs to go see some professional about this, and I am not sure if he does or not, but I am pretty sure that he needs to do that a lot better, if he is already seeing someone then he needs to change that person because obviously it is not helping.

His defence was "he was holding me", really Draymond? Really? He was grabbing your waist so it was only natural that you got mad and swing at him? That's the defence? He must realize that he has been hurting the team a lot lately and at this stage I am pretty sure that if Warriors just cut him and let him leave, literally like waive him, they would be even better.
Whatever the reason is, Green must not do that to another player. I mean yes he's a great defender, and we've seen it in his whole career, but the thing that I don't like about him is those unnecessary movements that cause him to miss many games, and miss multiple thousands of dollars as well.

I'm a Warriors fan, and even though they're struggling in their last 15 games getting a 4-11 win-loss record, I still don't want how Draymond is playing this season. Just imagine, it's not halfway through the season, and he got many technicals, and ejections already:
  • Received 2 technical fouls against the Cavaliers that caused him to get ejected.
  • Choked Rudy Gobert, and got suspended for only 5 games.
  • Now he just punched Nurkic and got suspended indefinitely.
I love his energy inside the court, but that's too much, and for sure many here will agree with how the NBA handled the situation, and gave the suspension to him. The problems in the Warriors are starting to emerge already. Thompson and Wiggins aren't contributing offensively, and now Green getting an indefinite suspension. I guess it's good that the bench and the rookies are starting to step up as well. Players like Kuminga, Podziemsky, Saric, and others are stepping up offensively to help Curry at least.

I will not be surprised if there will be a time where Coach Steve Kerr will try to start players like Kuminga, and Saric in some of their games especially if they're contributing on offense. Good luck to the Warriors I guess, and I hope they will cope up with their problems that they're facing.
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December 14, 2023, 01:13:27 AM
Called all my games right today. Always a nice thing. Funniest moment of the night definitely went to the Indiana Pacers who stole the game ball after their loss to the Bucks. Giannis wanted to ball to commemorate his 64 point career high scoring performance. Amazing night for him no doubt and he was not happy about the Pacers taking his ball.

Good job and congrats. Me, I lose my bet on the Pacers. I thought they'll have the same performance the last time they met but turns out it was a different outcome this time. Luckily, I was still up as I won most of my bets since most of the high favorites covers, so it's a good day for me, looking forward for another action tomorrow with a profitable ending.
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December 14, 2023, 12:06:41 AM
Called all my games right today. Always a nice thing. Funniest moment of the night definitely went to the Indiana Pacers who stole the game ball after their loss to the Bucks. Giannis wanted to ball to commemorate his 64 point career high scoring performance. Amazing night for him no doubt and he was not happy about the Pacers taking his ball.
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December 13, 2023, 11:39:45 PM
Honestly Nurkic is right, Draymond seriously needs some counselling and help. At this point I can say that it is at a "psychological help" level, he needs to go see some professional about this, and I am not sure if he does or not, but I am pretty sure that he needs to do that a lot better, if he is already seeing someone then he needs to change that person because obviously it is not helping.

His defence was "he was holding me", really Draymond? Really? He was grabbing your waist so it was only natural that you got mad and swing at him? That's the defence? He must realize that he has been hurting the team a lot lately and at this stage I am pretty sure that if Warriors just cut him and let him leave, literally like waive him, they would be even better.

It is absolutely unbelievable that Draymond trying to hurt someone again. Numerous fans are disheartened and some are calling for Draymond to be restricted in the NBA after committing many unsportsmanships.

Draymond Green and the Warriors just made another deal at a hundred million bucks. I am not so sure if the Warriors will do it because it is too pricey. And with the price tag value, it would be extremely challenging to trade Draymond to any team. But this reminded me of Bob Myers the previous team manager who always gave Steph the choice to decide. His objective was to satisfy Steph. But the Warriors have a new manager and we will find out how Dunleavy reacts to this kind of problem.
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December 13, 2023, 09:31:54 PM
A lot of talk about Draymond Green’s actions vs the Suns and what is going to happen to him. The league is expected to make a decision tomorrow and according to analysts they are talking about a possible season long suspension. I personally don’t believe it will be that harsh, but he did get off easy on the last suspension so I imagine this one will be 15+ games.
As per Adrian Wojnarowski has announced that the NBA has suspended Draymond Green indefinitely. This is the best decision for the league, given Green's reputation as a dirtiest player in the league right now. It's a significant move in a league where players often have a lot of influence. Green is known for his dirty playing style and his poor sportsmanship and questionable teamwork have brought a negative influence to the game. Hopefully, he can handle this situation well for the sake of his career.
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December 13, 2023, 08:17:18 PM
A lot of talk about Draymond Green’s actions vs the Suns and what is going to happen to him. The league is expected to make a decision tomorrow and according to analysts they are talking about a possible season long suspension. I personally don’t believe it will be that harsh, but he did get off easy on the last suspension so I imagine this one will be 15+ games.
He didn't show any remorse from the choking incident so that's probably going to factor in the decision for this recent case. Old Draymond needs his rest time so 20 games and a heavy penalty $ sounds about right to me.

Have you guys watched the ejection of Nikola Jokic in the game between Chicago Bulls and the Denver Nuggets.
I watched it live 2nd half and Jokic was already gone. So just minutes ago I checked why he was thrown out and was shocked at what I witnessed.
He didn't do much, just asking for a foul as he goes back to defense. Then the referee, out of the blue just called the technical after their opponent  White was fouled.

My big question. Why a direct thrown out? What's the use of technical foul? Then he can tech him again if he talks back so he can throw him out. Because a technical foul is a sign of warning players to shut up and he didnt even bother using that first.
I browsed the social media and many fans are mad because they are there to watch the best player on the floor and he kicked him out early.
Some are asking to suspend the referee.
Others are accusing that certain official as a "Vegas referee". First time I heard that but I already knew what it meant.
But still the Bulls lost in that game so he didnt succeed if that accusation is true.

What do you guys think?
Here is the clip.
https://youtu.be/pVyZ00YEaMk?si=6bwXmNsm2cnHfMEw
Jokic said "MF" according to the referee and their chief defended him saying "language reached the standard for an ejection even without a warning or prior technical foul". I don't know the refs handbook but players calling them names deserve a technical foul. I also think the NBA has to step in with more specific rules for automatic ejections like verbal threats.
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December 13, 2023, 07:57:58 PM
A lot of talk about Draymond Green’s actions vs the Suns and what is going to happen to him. The league is expected to make a decision tomorrow and according to analysts they are talking about a possible season long suspension. I personally don’t believe it will be that harsh, but he did get off easy on the last suspension so I imagine this one will be 15+ games.
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December 13, 2023, 04:50:26 PM
I had high hopes for Lakers to win especially after having 2 days break to recover from the finals but I guess they really went to party hard and simply forgot they will play MAVS who really loves to punish teams who are out of shape.

Suns once again beat GSW and they are up 2-0 so far during this season and also seems that Clippers are back in the game with 5 winning streak on home games and I think they won't stop anytime soon with this streak.  Wink

And it was the usual Lakers again, letting the team built a good lead against them as if they are not in a hurry. And come 3rd and 4th quarter, they become very aggressive and that's what we see in this game.

Unfortunately, the Mavs are too strong in the 4th, they move the ball very well, looking for the open man, and I think there were like 2-3x that either Exum or Hardaway Jr is open to shoot that 3 and the Lakers has not defense on it. Just too bad though, I bet on the Lakers for a -1.5 handicap.

Anyway, Lakers will redeem themselves against the Wemby lead Spurs who is still struggling.
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December 13, 2023, 03:38:30 PM
The Lakers are kind of interesting to watch after their IST run because they became efficient and strong defensively. I'm not sure but LeBron may have influenced his teammates to play their best including AD. I noticed that LeBron's became more aggressive during the IST semis and finals. I hope he maintain that kind of energy throughout the season and most especially in the playoffs, because the whole team needs it.
Let's see if he will slow down or play the same against Dallas.

Personally, I've noticed something similar thing happening with LeBron for a while now. I mean, he usually shows little activity on the court at the beginning and middle of the regular season, then he gets more aggressive at the end of the season and tries to perform at the peak of his abilities in the playoffs. It looks like it's a very effective strategy that allows him to save enough during the long regular season. But this time, a new in-season tournament (new achievement) was apparently a trigger for him, and that's why he became more aggressive earlier than usual.

I think there was one season when he was still with the Cavs that I also saw him doing this. Taking it easy and then he become aggressive like after the all star break. However, they went on a losing skid around March. They still made it to the playoffs though but he really need to be very aggressive, him and Kyrie. Yeah, most likely the in-season tournament was a good gauge for his mentality and when they started to win and have a chance to be the inaugural winner he and AD did go for it. However, they've lost to the Mavericks last night, they are the favorite that time. No Kyrie for the Mavs, but still they were not able to stop Luka and lost on the road. For me if this win that one, they could be really on a momentum. But maybe today they will shake everything off as they will be facing some low team in Spurs. But San Antonio is not a huge underdog though based on the current odds.
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December 13, 2023, 02:55:42 PM
For winning a ROTY? I guess Wemby is totally out performed by Chet since he and his teammates are doing more better this season. So he have more higher chance to win that and provably a lot of people will agree.
I agree, if it's about the standing then no doubt that Chet is more desirable than Wemby. Too bad that the Spurs fan and everyone had a lot of expectations from him but it seems that it's not yet his time and there's more need for development.

While for Chet, he's doing good together with his teammates and they're having a good run this season. Anyway, it's been the two that are being clocked in as the potential ROTY but it seems that Wemby will be out of that list.

And it's likely that Chet is going to be the one that shall receive the award of the ROTY but let's see, there are also other good candidates for it.
For sure, lots are disappointed. It''s not what most are expecting considering he is the most anticipated rookie since Lebron as they say but he is too far from what Lebron had done in his rookie year. He is most likely not going to playoffs with his team either. They are now in a losing streak. They are against the Lakers on their next game so it might continue.
He won't go to the playoffs, with that stats together with Spurs then that's accepted that we won't see him go far this season. That's fine, it's his first season but it's not impressive at all.

Whilst for Chet, this is his 2nd season but the first season that he's played with the OKC since basically the actual first season that he was in, he was injured.

Glad that he had proved himself worthy as the ROTY.
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December 13, 2023, 02:05:53 PM
Honestly Nurkic is right, Draymond seriously needs some counselling and help. At this point I can say that it is at a "psychological help" level, he needs to go see some professional about this, and I am not sure if he does or not, but I am pretty sure that he needs to do that a lot better, if he is already seeing someone then he needs to change that person because obviously it is not helping.

His defence was "he was holding me", really Draymond? Really? He was grabbing your waist so it was only natural that you got mad and swing at him? That's the defence? He must realize that he has been hurting the team a lot lately and at this stage I am pretty sure that if Warriors just cut him and let him leave, literally like waive him, they would be even better.
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December 13, 2023, 12:39:08 PM
Have you guys watched the ejection of Nikola Jokic in the game between Chicago Bulls and the Denver Nuggets.
I watched it live 2nd half and Jokic was already gone. So just minutes ago I checked why he was thrown out and was shocked at what I witnessed.
He didn't do much, just asking for a foul as he goes back to defense. Then the referee, out of the blue just called the technical after their opponent  White was fouled.

My big question. Why a direct thrown out? What's the use of technical foul? Then he can tech him again if he talks back so he can throw him out. Because a technical foul is a sign of warning players to shut up and he didnt even bother using that first.
I browsed the social media and many fans are mad because they are there to watch the best player on the floor and he kicked him out early.
Some are asking to suspend the referee.
Others are accusing that certain official as a "Vegas referee". First time I heard that but I already knew what it meant.
But still the Bulls lost in that game so he didnt succeed if that accusation is true.

What do you guys think?
Here is the clip.
https://youtu.be/pVyZ00YEaMk?si=6bwXmNsm2cnHfMEw
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December 13, 2023, 11:01:21 AM
A bunch of games on today including a few mismatches that might be worth tossing into a parlay. First you have the 76ers playing the Pistons, who are struggling bad. Then you have the Pelicans playing the Wizards, also struggling bad… Finally you have the Lakers playing the Spurs. Very likely the Pistons, Spurs, & Wizards will all lose.

I was just looking at the lists of games today, checking spreads and what not trying to decide if I had any interest in betting any of these games.  Typically I bet games that I'm somewhat interested in watching, and really the only game today that I have much interest in is the Lakers versus Spurs game.  I haven't seen much of what's his name on San Antonio yet, plus I know the Lakers are kind of hot right now.  Prob put a few bucks on LA.
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December 13, 2023, 10:36:03 AM
I had high hopes for Lakers to win especially after having 2 days break to recover from the finals but I guess they really went to party hard and simply forgot they will play MAVS who really loves to punish teams who are out of shape.

I was really quite confident that the Mavs would win the game, even with Kyrie out, Lakers are a very good defensive team, but their offense often doesn't complement how good their defense his, that's why you have guy like Prince, Cam Reddish and Vanderbilt on the court for well over 30 minutes and they can't score more than 10 points cumulatively most of the time, I just can't imagine the Lakers without AD/or Lebron for a long stretch this season, I'm pretty sure a post season adventure would be completely off the table, all they've got left is a consistently inconsistent D'Angello Russell to facilitate plays for them a role which he's suck all season long, Austin Reaves is the only standout player that can keep the team going when Lebron and Anthony Davis are not having their best night.

Suns once again beat GSW and they are up 2-0 so far during this season and also seems that Clippers are back in the game with 5 winning streak on home games and I think they won't stop anytime soon with this streak.  Wink

Just a couple of observations from the Warriors team that I can point out are;

As much as he's a leader and voice in the locker room and on the sidelines, Draymond is a freaking liability to the team, Klay Thompson is  not the usually splash brother twin he used to be, so it wouldn't hurt to have him on a smaller role, coming of the bench, Kuminga, Podziemski and Moody are the future of this franchise and they need more time on the court. Curry, Klay, Wiggins, Draymond and Looney are no longer the best starting five in terms chemistry anymore, Looney is a great offensive rebound and rim protector, but having him and Green on the court together is a waste of time, Saric shoots better and possess a better court and ball movement awareness than Looney, and finally Stephen Curry isn't a machine, and he can't always do it all!, he needs a better complementing team, and finally Steve Kerr is really tactically looking outdated
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December 13, 2023, 10:30:52 AM
A bunch of games on today including a few mismatches that might be worth tossing into a parlay. First you have the 76ers playing the Pistons, who are struggling bad. Then you have the Pelicans playing the Wizards, also struggling bad… Finally you have the Lakers playing the Spurs. Very likely the Pistons, Spurs, & Wizards will all lose.
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December 13, 2023, 10:29:40 AM
The Lakers are kind of interesting to watch after their IST run because they became efficient and strong defensively. I'm not sure but LeBron may have influenced his teammates to play their best including AD. I noticed that LeBron's became more aggressive during the IST semis and finals. I hope he maintain that kind of energy throughout the season and most especially in the playoffs, because the whole team needs it.
Let's see if he will slow down or play the same against Dallas.

Personally, I've noticed something similar thing happening with LeBron for a while now. I mean, he usually shows little activity on the court at the beginning and middle of the regular season, then he gets more aggressive at the end of the season and tries to perform at the peak of his abilities in the playoffs. It looks like it's a very effective strategy that allows him to save enough during the long regular season. But this time, a new in-season tournament (new achievement) was apparently a trigger for him, and that's why he became more aggressive earlier than usual.
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December 13, 2023, 10:08:36 AM
I had high hopes for Lakers to win especially after having 2 days break to recover from the finals but I guess they really went to party hard and simply forgot they will play MAVS who really loves to punish teams who are out of shape.

Suns once again beat GSW and they are up 2-0 so far during this season and also seems that Clippers are back in the game with 5 winning streak on home games and I think they won't stop anytime soon with this streak.  Wink
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December 13, 2023, 08:24:00 AM
Steve Kerr admitted in the press conference that he cannot find the connection yet. He keeps on rotating his players expecting something good will come out.
Yeah I think he needs to bring bench players more as starters and drop Klay and Draymond to the bench. They are more energetic and aggressive which makes them better to watch. Steph will still lead while CP3 creating plays for these younger guys.

[...]
There's a lot of young team that really give no respect to the Warriors.
No team is to be feared at this point and that makes the league more interesting.
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December 13, 2023, 08:14:48 AM
Hopefully we can see Spurs get a good trades and find those players that can help him or even get a star also maybe some veteran to help them became more better each game the play.

They don't have a star player to trade, so if there's someone that will be traded, we can't expect a start player like Wemby in return. I think they'll have to build the team with the current line up, improve the chemistry and be healthy, eventually they'll be a tough team like the OKC.

Still too early to expect the SPurs to be playoff contender, it was just Wemby was overhyped resulting to people have a high expectation on him, but as we can see, he is going through a process and let's understand it would take time for him to be a complete player.
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