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December 13, 2023, 06:04:33 AM
For winning a ROTY? I guess Wemby is totally out performed by Chet since he and his teammates are doing more better this season. So he have more higher chance to win that and provably a lot of people will agree.
I agree, if it's about the standing then no doubt that Chet is more desirable than Wemby. Too bad that the Spurs fan and everyone had a lot of expectations from him but it seems that it's not yet his time and there's more need for development.

While for Chet, he's doing good together with his teammates and they're having a good run on this season. Anyway, it's been the two that are being clocked in as the potential ROTY but it seems that Wemby will be out of that list.

And it's likely that Chet is going to be the one that shall receive the award of the ROTY but let's see, there are also other good candidates for it.

Its so bad that they might end on position that they don't like to be placed that's why I feel bad for Wemby since there's to much expectation on him regarding on winning the ROTY but his team cannot contribute and they are playing so bad now. I guess Spurs including Wemby know that they cannot win that trophy so maybe there focus change and they continue to focus on experimenting on how they can use him on the court.

Hopefully we can see Spurs get a good trades and find those players that can help him or even get a star also maybe some veteran to help them became more better each game the play.
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December 13, 2023, 05:37:19 AM
Steve Kerr admitted in the press conference that he cannot find the connection yet. He keeps on rotating his players expecting something good will come out. Well, there are some although what Draymond Green did was just stupid. Stan Van Gundy said he didn't mean it, I doubt that. I am a Warriors fan and yet I don't like how Draymond is behaving. He is exaggerating contacts and it's not cool. That's the third time he was thrown out of the game like a guy who wants to be traded the next time it's available.
The Warriors are already having a bad season, it's time for him to grow up. They were defeated by a Suns team without KD. Ouch!
13 point lead gone in the 3rd quarter. The Suns bench stepped up their game, Metu, Okogi, and Goodwin. And I do love the unselfishness of Booker. He instantly passes the ball whenever the Warriors are pressing him with a double team.
That's what the Suns need especially without a point guard in their midst.
I think it's not the year for the Warriors, unfortunately, and with their aging stars, I doubt that they can compete with the current team right now. There's a lot of young team that really give no respect to the Warriors.

Well they are one of the most dominant teams, but I guess their era and dynasty might be over. Green and Thompson are no longer producing the numbers and basketball IQ that they used to have and I think it's only Steph Curry who are consistent in this season. I do agree that it's hard to find the connection, Kuminga, Wiggins, seems to be off with the current rotation.
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December 13, 2023, 04:48:50 AM
The Lakers seemed to be having a bit of hangover after winning the championship in the in season tournament.

They are down 10 points now against a Irving-Less Dallas Mavericks.
I hope they will comeback in the 2nd half and win this game.

BTW, I've taken them live with an odds of 3.06. Good luck to me!

They came back and even take the lead, but the Mavericks also have a big 4th quarter and was able to outrun the Lakers. It was just a 2 point game( final result), if you had taken the handicap instead, you'll likely have the win. Anyway, gambling it is, we sometimes go for bigger reward but big reward does not win most of the time.

Yeah, they've got that run but the Mavs manage to counter and escape the game with the win,
just love seeing stars showing their leadership working to win the game.

Though at the end of the game it's only one team will win, and that's the home team which give the fans the value for
their money watching and cheering for young Luka and his squad playing against the In-tour season champs.


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December 13, 2023, 04:35:58 AM
Wembanyama is scoring more, rebounding more, blocking more right now. Plus, it looks like they are quite different in the end, Chet is tall too, but he is more like a Durant type of player, a tall skinny scorer who is doing fine, I believe in the next 10 years or so, we are going to see Chet do fine about scoring the basket, he will be an elite force on offense.

However, Wembenyama could become something we have never seen before, a 7'5 feet tall player who plays like a guard, that dude can score from the three or just take on step and dunk, that's how tall and quick he is, and he makes everything much easier for his teammates, plus he is a much better defender as well, his rim protection is near elite levels even right now, that's unreal for his age. I can see why people may prefer Chet because his team is doing better, and because OKC is better than Spurs, many think Chet is better than Wemby, but that is not the case if you ask me, just because teams are better, doesn't mean player is better.

It is still early for these two players and I know they will surely go a long way both Chet Holmgren and Victor Wembanyama, actually both of these guys has a similar play style but for sure they will go a long way and may also get their own unique style of play, actually I don't expect much on Victor Wembanyama because he is just new to the NBA so there will be a lot of adjustment needed and the chemistry with the team is also crucial just like what happened with the Indiana Pacers they became a great team with Tyrese Haliburton's play style and it was then caught by the team because their chemistry has surely increased this also can make someone very OK with making the decision and play so Haliburton can make great passes,


Well yeah the LA Lakers have shown us what they are really capable of in the defensive end, but the Pelicans and the Pacers aren't really a threat in the playoffs, thus elite teams already had an idea about the Lakers defense. Now everyone knows the Lakers can lock down 1 to 2 player but it would be a different story if the other 3 can play and can creat their own shots, because the double team will create an opportunity for the opponent to have a wide open shot just like what they did to Myles Turner and Obi Toppins.
The Lakers might be a difficult team to beat in the playoffs if they are consistent and efficient offensively.

Yes! The Los Angeles Lakers have great defensive capabilities and they are great at listening to their coaches about what they can do, but they still have some loopholes in their game the other teams can still look at this matter and could also catch what they are doing,

While the New Orlean Pelicans could be a great team because of Zion Williamson, they still have problems with him especially his booming weight as his movement was not the same anymore, and the Lakers have exposed them quickly for sure, While Tyrese Haliburton and the Indiana Pacers now is a different beast pretty much they are a strong team that can score a 100 plus score per game, and they are a team with a consistent three-point shot on the deep, for sure a different monster for this season and Tyrese Haliburton is still improving,

The Lakers are kind of interesting to watch after their IST run because they became efficient and strong defensively. I'm not sure but LeBron may have influenced his teammates to play their best including AD. I noticed that LeBron's became more aggressive during the IST semis and finals. I hope he maintain that kind of energy throughout the season and most especially in the playoffs, because the whole team needs it.
Let's see if he will slow down or play the same against Dallas.

Well, they surely are, but for me, I am now interested in the team's most improvements, and the Los Angeles Laker's improvement was their defense. Anthony Davis is really creating something different this season and In the In-Season Tournament they have shown that they will approach a game in a more tactical way just like what happened in their game against the Indiana Pacers they are a unique form in that game and I really enjoyed both teams performance,
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December 13, 2023, 03:27:47 AM
Steve Kerr admitted in the press conference that he cannot find the connection yet. He keeps on rotating his players expecting something good will come out. Well, there are some although what Draymond Green did was just stupid. Stan Van Gundy said he didn't mean it, I doubt that. I am a Warriors fan and yet I don't like how Draymond is behaving. He is exaggerating contacts and it's not cool. That's the third time he was thrown out of the game like a guy who wants to be traded the next time it's available.
The Warriors are already having a bad season, it's time for him to grow up. They were defeated by a Suns team without KD. Ouch!
13 point lead gone in the 3rd quarter. The Suns bench stepped up their game, Metu, Okogi, and Goodwin. And I do love the unselfishness of Booker. He instantly passes the ball whenever the Warriors are pressing him with a double team.
That's what the Suns need especially without a point guard in their midst.

What Green did there is another stupid action he made since he don't really need to do that and if he play fair maybe they get a different result. But he choose to be dumb then decide to get ejected that's why they are facing a lot of troubles. I don't know what's really the problem of Green since he always create trouble for Warriors.

 I guess if he continue to act like that then maybe its time to think about trading him. Although he contribute on defensive ends but for sure they can find another young guys or solid defender there which is easy to be tamed. Since if they always play like that and Green always destroy the good flow of Warriors then expect that they would provably encounter a lot of disappointments.
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December 13, 2023, 03:07:22 AM
Steve Kerr admitted in the press conference that he cannot find the connection yet. He keeps on rotating his players expecting something good will come out. Well, there are some although what Draymond Green did was just stupid. Stan Van Gundy said he didn't mean it, I doubt that. I am a Warriors fan and yet I don't like how Draymond is behaving. He is exaggerating contacts and it's not cool. That's the third time he was thrown out of the game like a guy who wants to be traded the next time it's available.
The Warriors are already having a bad season, it's time for him to grow up. They were defeated by a Suns team without KD. Ouch!
13 point lead gone in the 3rd quarter. The Suns bench stepped up their game, Metu, Okogi, and Goodwin. And I do love the unselfishness of Booker. He instantly passes the ball whenever the Warriors are pressing him with a double team.
That's what the Suns need especially without a point guard in their midst.
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December 13, 2023, 03:00:39 AM
The Lakers seemed to be having a bit of hangover after winning the championship in the in season tournament.

They are down 10 points now against a Irving-Less Dallas Mavericks.
I hope they will comeback in the 2nd half and win this game.

BTW, I've taken them live with an odds of 3.06. Good luck to me!

They came back and even take the lead, but the Mavericks also have a big 4th quarter and was able to outrun the Lakers. It was just a 2 point game( final result), if you had taken the handicap instead, you'll likely have the win. Anyway, gambling it is, we sometimes go for bigger reward but big reward does not win most of the time.

I thought LeBron and AD both had good games. Looking at the box scores you have to really dig to see how the Lakers lost this one. In the end I think it boiled down to turnovers. The Lakers had 15 while the Mavericks only had 10. Give the Lakers and extra 5 possessions and I think this game turns out a little bit differently.

They didn't play well in the first half, that's the problem. And when they successfully have a big run in the 3rd quarter to make it a close game, they were outscored in the 4th quarter by the home team. I think the Lakers just did what they usually do, you can see Davis, Lebron and Reaves have some great numbers but on the other team, Hardway and Exum scoring 32 and 26 respecctively, that's kinda unusual.

I did not realize the Lakers were better while seeing the box score. But I enjoyed watching this match even though my Lakers lost. The home team made a run in the fourth quarter, the momentum was high and it was hard to stop. The defense is on Luka yet he made amazing assists and a few difficult shots of his own. That was the difference maker. With the absence of Irving, someone has to score. Some players were open and Luka had great vision. The three points made by Dante Exum and Hardaway were crucial.

Actually it was a great game and it can do either way. The Lakers was chasing the Mavericks all night long but in the 4th quarter they have caught them and if I'm not mistaken, taken a brief 2 point lead with AD and Lebron are going inside.

However, Luka went into his zone-mode, he has a good assists and Exum hitting his outside shot.

Yes, Kyrie is still out by the team responded again with a great shooting night in their homecourt. And don't forget about Hardaway too, he is the one that orchestrate that huge lead they had in the first half.
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December 13, 2023, 02:35:25 AM
The Lakers seemed to be having a bit of hangover after winning the championship in the in season tournament.

They are down 10 points now against a Irving-Less Dallas Mavericks.
I hope they will comeback in the 2nd half and win this game.

BTW, I've taken them live with an odds of 3.06. Good luck to me!

They came back and even take the lead, but the Mavericks also have a big 4th quarter and was able to outrun the Lakers. It was just a 2 point game( final result), if you had taken the handicap instead, you'll likely have the win. Anyway, gambling it is, we sometimes go for bigger reward but big reward does not win most of the time.

I thought LeBron and AD both had good games. Looking at the box scores you have to really dig to see how the Lakers lost this one. In the end I think it boiled down to turnovers. The Lakers had 15 while the Mavericks only had 10. Give the Lakers and extra 5 possessions and I think this game turns out a little bit differently.

They didn't play well in the first half, that's the problem. And when they successfully have a big run in the 3rd quarter to make it a close game, they were outscored in the 4th quarter by the home team. I think the Lakers just did what they usually do, you can see Davis, Lebron and Reaves have some great numbers but on the other team, Hardway and Exum scoring 32 and 26 respecctively, that's kinda unusual.

I did not realize the Lakers were better while seeing the box score. But I enjoyed watching this match even though my Lakers lost. The home team made a run in the fourth quarter, the momentum was high and it was hard to stop. The defense is on Luka yet he made amazing assists and a few difficult shots of his own. That was the difference maker. With the absence of Irving, someone has to score. Some players were open and Luka had great vision. The three points made by Dante Exum and Hardaway were crucial.
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December 13, 2023, 02:23:05 AM
The Lakers seemed to be having a bit of hangover after winning the championship in the in season tournament.

They are down 10 points now against a Irving-Less Dallas Mavericks.
I hope they will comeback in the 2nd half and win this game.

BTW, I've taken them live with an odds of 3.06. Good luck to me!

They came back and even take the lead, but the Mavericks also have a big 4th quarter and was able to outrun the Lakers. It was just a 2 point game( final result), if you had taken the handicap instead, you'll likely have the win. Anyway, gambling it is, we sometimes go for bigger reward but big reward does not win most of the time.

I thought LeBron and AD both had good games. Looking at the box scores you have to really dig to see how the Lakers lost this one. In the end I think it boiled down to turnovers. The Lakers had 15 while the Mavericks only had 10. Give the Lakers and extra 5 possessions and I think this game turns out a little bit differently.

They didn't play well in the first half, that's the problem. And when they successfully have a big run in the 3rd quarter to make it a close game, they were outscored in the 4th quarter by the home team. I think the Lakers just did what they usually do, you can see Davis, Lebron and Reaves have some great numbers but on the other team, Hardway and Exum scoring 32 and 26 respecctively, that's kinda unusual.

Right, no one did sit on this game, Luka is not affected by the back injuries, Lakers going full force. But you have to appreciate how Luka and the Mavs moves the ball here. Luka finding Exum in the wing for that 3 when the Lakers is trying to close out.

So kudos to them, it's winnable game for the Lakers but they have failed to execute in the last 3-4 minutes of the game.

Luka taking over the 4th quarter and did have another great name. So great catch for those who have them as underdog in their bet.
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December 13, 2023, 01:07:01 AM
The Lakers seemed to be having a bit of hangover after winning the championship in the in season tournament.

They are down 10 points now against a Irving-Less Dallas Mavericks.
I hope they will comeback in the 2nd half and win this game.

BTW, I've taken them live with an odds of 3.06. Good luck to me!

They came back and even take the lead, but the Mavericks also have a big 4th quarter and was able to outrun the Lakers. It was just a 2 point game( final result), if you had taken the handicap instead, you'll likely have the win. Anyway, gambling it is, we sometimes go for bigger reward but big reward does not win most of the time.

I thought LeBron and AD both had good games. Looking at the box scores you have to really dig to see how the Lakers lost this one. In the end I think it boiled down to turnovers. The Lakers had 15 while the Mavericks only had 10. Give the Lakers and extra 5 possessions and I think this game turns out a little bit differently.

They didn't play well in the first half, that's the problem. And when they successfully have a big run in the 3rd quarter to make it a close game, they were outscored in the 4th quarter by the home team. I think the Lakers just did what they usually do, you can see Davis, Lebron and Reaves have some great numbers but on the other team, Hardway and Exum scoring 32 and 26 respecctively, that's kinda unusual.
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December 13, 2023, 12:02:33 AM
The Lakers seemed to be having a bit of hangover after winning the championship in the in season tournament.

They are down 10 points now against a Irving-Less Dallas Mavericks.
I hope they will comeback in the 2nd half and win this game.

BTW, I've taken them live with an odds of 3.06. Good luck to me!

They came back and even take the lead, but the Mavericks also have a big 4th quarter and was able to outrun the Lakers. It was just a 2 point game( final result), if you had taken the handicap instead, you'll likely have the win. Anyway, gambling it is, we sometimes go for bigger reward but big reward does not win most of the time.

I thought LeBron and AD both had good games. Looking at the box scores you have to really dig to see how the Lakers lost this one. In the end I think it boiled down to turnovers. The Lakers had 15 while the Mavericks only had 10. Give the Lakers and extra 5 possessions and I think this game turns out a little bit differently.
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December 12, 2023, 11:08:20 PM
The Lakers seemed to be having a bit of hangover after winning the championship in the in season tournament.

They are down 10 points now against a Irving-Less Dallas Mavericks.
I hope they will comeback in the 2nd half and win this game.

BTW, I've taken them live with an odds of 3.06. Good luck to me!

They came back and even take the lead, but the Mavericks also have a big 4th quarter and was able to outrun the Lakers. It was just a 2 point game( final result), if you had taken the handicap instead, you'll likely have the win. Anyway, gambling it is, we sometimes go for bigger reward but big reward does not win most of the time.
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December 12, 2023, 08:54:11 PM
The Lakers seemed to be having a bit of hangover after winning the championship in the in season tournament.

They are down 10 points now against a Irving-Less Dallas Mavericks.
I hope they will comeback in the 2nd half and win this game.

BTW, I've taken them live with an odds of 3.06. Good luck to me!
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December 12, 2023, 07:31:44 PM
For winning a ROTY? I guess Wemby is totally out performed by Chet since he and his teammates are doing more better this season. So he have more higher chance to win that and provably a lot of people will agree.
I agree, if it's about the standing then no doubt that Chet is more desirable than Wemby. Too bad that the Spurs fan and everyone had a lot of expectations from him but it seems that it's not yet his time and there's more need for development.

While for Chet, he's doing good together with his teammates and they're having a good run this season. Anyway, it's been the two that are being clocked in as the potential ROTY but it seems that Wemby will be out of that list.

And it's likely that Chet is going to be the one that shall receive the award of the ROTY but let's see, there are also other good candidates for it.
For sure, lots are disappointed. It''s not what most are expecting considering he is the most anticipated rookie since Lebron as they say but he is too far from what Lebron had done in his rookie year. He is most likely not going to playoffs with his team either. They are now in a losing streak. They are against the Lakers on their next game so it might continue.
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December 12, 2023, 05:47:36 PM
Some good matchups today and they’re being televised on TNT. First you have the Los Angeles Lakers and Dallas Mavericks which is almost certain to be worth the watch as LeBron James and Luka Doncic facing off never disappoints. Then you have the Suns and Warriors which have their own set of superstars facing off.

The Lakers are kind of interesting to watch after their IST run because they became efficient and strong defensively. I'm not sure but LeBron may have influenced his teammates to play their best including AD. I noticed that LeBron's became more aggressive during the IST semis and finals. I hope he maintain that kind of energy throughout the season and most especially in the playoffs, because the whole team needs it.
Let's see if he will slow down or play the same against Dallas.

Right, maybe they got a renewed spirit winning a the first in-game tournament. Which means that they might go and look for the biggest reward which is the NBA championship with Lebron and AD doing their best.

And you can sense that this is a complete them, they also have good defensive mindset players now. It's good to see that they have transformed Cam Reddish to be their wing defender, similar to what Aaron Gordon is with the Denver Nuggets.

So let's see if they will go full force against Dallas in this game.
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December 12, 2023, 05:47:16 PM
For winning a ROTY? I guess Wemby is totally out performed by Chet since he and his teammates are doing more better this season. So he have more higher chance to win that and provably a lot of people will agree.
I agree, if it's about the standing then no doubt that Chet is more desirable than Wemby. Too bad that the Spurs fan and everyone had a lot of expectations from him but it seems that it's not yet his time and there's more need for development.

While for Chet, he's doing good together with his teammates and they're having a good run on this season. Anyway, it's been the two that are being clocked in as the potential ROTY but it seems that Wemby will be out of that list.

And it's likely that Chet is going to be the one that shall receive the award of the ROTY but let's see, there are also other good candidates for it.
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December 12, 2023, 05:25:56 PM
I guess Coach Pop already said to Wemby that he must forget that ROTY title because winning a title for the team is way better than that title. TBH, I have trust in Coach Pop. I mean who doesn't? The coach has been in the league for decades, is the most winningest coach in NBA history, and trying to develop a generational player in Wembanyama.

On the other hand, Chet will get that ROTY no doubt. The question right now for the whole Thunder team is can they play the same when they clinch the playoffs? Might be too early though.

You can't say thay to your player if Coach Pop really said that since it can lower down the motivation of his hype player to do more better job. But if this is true then maybe he just said that its because he already know that Wemby is already behind with Chet which is doing so good this season. Just to bad he cannot get enough help that's why provably he will just miss that ROTY award.

Chet is now the favorite player pointed out to win the ROTY due to his performance and contribution to his team and if he consistently doing some nice thing and OKC always win then no doubt that he successfully acquired that thropy.

Winning the title isn't on the discussion yet if it's the Spurs. They are a rebuilding team so they should focus first on improving, maybe the main goal for now is getting into the playoffs, and with their record now, it's safe to say that this season they'll fail.

On the discussion whether Wemby will win a ROY, it's unlikely now but since it's still early ,there's still time to recover for him to improve his individual performance. Afterall, ROY criteria does not significantly involve the team's performance, so he still has a shot.

I think you misquote me regarding on winning a title since I never say that. Try to read the above message above I replied since he is the one discussing about the title.

But on other hand we can't really expect them to go title contention this season since expect them to fail with that since they are rebuilding. They are trying to figure out their talents and maybe they do more better performance next season. But what they don't expect is the heavy losing streak they encounter since this is really disappointinf part here.

For winning a ROTY? I guess Wemby is totally out performed by Chet since he and his teammates are doing more better this season. So he have more higher chance to win that and provably a lot of people will agree.

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December 12, 2023, 05:02:44 PM
Some good matchups today and they’re being televised on TNT. First you have the Los Angeles Lakers and Dallas Mavericks which is almost certain to be worth the watch as LeBron James and Luka Doncic facing off never disappoints. Then you have the Suns and Warriors which have their own set of superstars facing off.

The Lakers are kind of interesting to watch after their IST run because they became efficient and strong defensively. I'm not sure but LeBron may have influenced his teammates to play their best including AD. I noticed that LeBron's became more aggressive during the IST semis and finals. I hope he maintain that kind of energy throughout the season and most especially in the playoffs, because the whole team needs it.
Let's see if he will slow down or play the same against Dallas.
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December 12, 2023, 04:51:50 PM
Some good matchups today and they’re being televised on TNT. First you have the Los Angeles Lakers and Dallas Mavericks which is almost certain to be worth the watch as LeBron James and Luka Doncic facing off never disappoints. Then you have the Suns and Warriors which have their own set of superstars facing off.

Definitely a good day for NBA fans with almost all of the top teams in action and no scrub games tonight.

The Mavs should be well rested against a I supposed tired Lakers team. The problem though is Kyrie is already out with Luka listed as questionable. Same is for LBJ and AD of the Lakers. If these 4 are out the top game will be just another game.  Cry

Since our German national center Daniel Theiss is with the Clippers I follow them a little bit more now. Theiss had solid numbers off the bench in his first games. It was so strange with the Pacers giving him a combined 4 minutes in 14 games. Of course he is no starting center or something but his defence is solid and if you use him right on offence he can produce good numbers as a role players.

I am glad he found a new home with an actual role , at least until Plumlee comes back.  Roll Eyes


Nah they probably all will suit up besides kyrie.  Dallas is on the second game of a back to back and the Lakers are the team that hasn't played since Saturday so I think you meant the opposite?  Either way yeah there are some solid games in there.  I even expect the bulls to show up here.  Got them in as a sneaky ML pick.
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December 12, 2023, 04:38:06 PM
Some good matchups today and they’re being televised on TNT. First you have the Los Angeles Lakers and Dallas Mavericks which is almost certain to be worth the watch as LeBron James and Luka Doncic facing off never disappoints. Then you have the Suns and Warriors which have their own set of superstars facing off.

Definitely a good day for NBA fans with almost all of the top teams in action and no scrub games tonight.

The Mavs should be well rested against a I supposed tired Lakers team. The problem though is Kyrie is already out with Luka listed as questionable. Same is for LBJ and AD of the Lakers. If these 4 are out the top game will be just another game.  Cry

Since our German national center Daniel Theiss is with the Clippers I follow them a little bit more now. Theiss had solid numbers off the bench in his first games. It was so strange with the Pacers giving him a combined 4 minutes in 14 games. Of course he is no starting center or something but his defence is solid and if you use him right on offence he can produce good numbers as a role players.

I am glad he found a new home with an actual role , at least until Plumlee comes back.  Roll Eyes
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