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Quote from: YuginKadoya on December 11, 2023, 12:59:10 PM

Kudos to the strategy of the Los Angeles Lakers they have shown true strategy and determination toward the game like in their game against the New Orleans Pelicans as they have some great strategy and exposed Zion Williamson's lack of movements, and Sure Zions is getting heavy again, and against the In Season Tournament finals against the Indiana Pacers they are double teaming Tyrese Haliburton always and they when he passes the ball they will return into a man to man defense, but for sure they are exposing every team's problem and that is why they have won this tournament,

Well yeah the LA Lakers have shown us what they are really capable of in the defensive end, but the Pelicans and the Pacers aren't really a threat in the playoffs, thus elite teams already had an idea about the Lakers defense. Now everyone knows the Lakers can lock down 1 to 2 player but it would be a different story if the other 3 can play and can creat their own shots, because the double team will create an opportunity for the opponent to have a wide open shot just like what they did to Myles Turner and Obi Toppins.
The Lakers might be a difficult team to beat in the playoffs if they are consistent and efficient offensively.

It's also Anthony Davis night, not sure what he has eaten, but he shows his best two way this year, score points and grab many rebounds and put Myles Turner in foul trouble. And then the crew get into the groove so we should congrats them.

As for the games last night, I think it was a good game for bettors as most of the favorite have won the game and covering the spread and there was no upset whatsoever. Nuggets, Sixers, Pacers and Nets win with a good lead.

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Quote from: YuginKadoya on December 11, 2023, 12:59:10 PM

Kudos to the strategy of the Los Angeles Lakers they have shown true strategy and determination toward the game like in their game against the New Orleans Pelicans as they have some great strategy and exposed Zion Williamson's lack of movements, and Sure Zions is getting heavy again, and against the In Season Tournament finals against the Indiana Pacers they are double teaming Tyrese Haliburton always and they when he passes the ball they will return into a man to man defense, but for sure they are exposing every team's problem and that is why they have won this tournament,

Well yeah the LA Lakers have shown us what they are really capable of in the defensive end, but the Pelicans and the Pacers aren't really a threat in the playoffs, thus elite teams already had an idea about the Lakers defense. Now everyone knows the Lakers can lock down 1 to 2 player but it would be a different story if the other 3 can play and can creat their own shots, because the double team will create an opportunity for the opponent to have a wide open shot just like what they did to Myles Turner and Obi Toppins.
The Lakers might be a difficult team to beat in the playoffs if they are consistent and efficient offensively.

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Quote from: Sanitough on December 11, 2023, 08:30:56 AM

Quote from: yazher on December 11, 2023, 08:24:57 AM

Thankfully, LBJ won the first in-season tournament because he won't have another chance next year because of his age and maybe this is the only championship he gets this year.

Are you kidding me? Why would you base on his age rather than his performance?

Look at Lebron's stats here ; https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/j/jamesle01.html

It doesn't even look like his performance has decline, and winning the in season tournament MVP is already a testament that he's still playing like a real NBA superstar. He won't be called Lebron the king for no reason, so while he is still playing, he is still the king.

Yeah right LBJ can still win a In season MVP if Lakers could still dominate like that next season. Since it will all matter on overall team performance since if he's still good but he's teammate is declining then provably they might get over powered by their opponent. But this season first in game tournament is no luck for them since we see how good their performance is and we see how Lebron perform like there's no performance declining happening to him plus Davies is a total monster in finals.

For winning that in season tournament MVP it says all that there are more from Lebron James in future so provably we can see him balling for more years so expect if there's still in season tournament there's a lot of chance for him to win a MVP again.

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Quote from: FanEagle on December 11, 2023, 01:42:22 PM

Wembanyama is scoring more, rebounding more, blocking more right now. Plus, it looks like they are quite different in the end, Chet is tall too, but he is more like a Durant type of player, a tall skinny scorer who is doing fine, I believe in the next 10 years or so, we are going to see Chet do fine about scoring the basket, he will be an elite force on offense.

However, Wembenyama could become something we have never seen before, a 7'5 feet tall player who plays like a guard, that dude can score from the three or just take on step and dunk, that's how tall and quick he is, and he makes everything much easier for his teammates, plus he is a much better defender as well, his rim protection is near elite levels even right now, that's unreal for his age. I can see why people may prefer Chet because his team is doing better, and because OKC is better than Spurs, many think Chet is better than Wemby, but that is not the case if you ask me, just because teams are better, doesn't mean player is better.

It's way too early to tell for either of these guys. We are barely through 2 months of theor career. I think as with most big guys injuries, or lack of injuries will pace theor possible career. But they eye test for me too is wemby might end up being the best of the 2. Either way I hope they both stay on the court so we can see where theor careers go.

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Wembanyama is scoring more, rebounding more, blocking more right now. Plus, it looks like they are quite different in the end, Chet is tall too, but he is more like a Durant type of player, a tall skinny scorer who is doing fine, I believe in the next 10 years or so, we are going to see Chet do fine about scoring the basket, he will be an elite force on offense.

However, Wembenyama could become something we have never seen before, a 7'5 feet tall player who plays like a guard, that dude can score from the three or just take on step and dunk, that's how tall and quick he is, and he makes everything much easier for his teammates, plus he is a much better defender as well, his rim protection is near elite levels even right now, that's unreal for his age. I can see why people may prefer Chet because his team is doing better, and because OKC is better than Spurs, many think Chet is better than Wemby, but that is not the case if you ask me, just because teams are better, doesn't mean player is better.

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Quote from: boltz on December 10, 2023, 07:15:43 AM

Big congrats to Lakers for becoming NBA in season champs but also big congrats for LeBron and his MVP win award who is well deserved in my opinion even if AD really played great during this tournament. Now , the job is done , they can actually focus on NBA games and maybe it's time to deliver a winning streak. Cool

For sure their confidence will boost aswell, as the In-Season Tournament pretty much is all great, with just a 1 time game for every team I think the Lakers are well deserved team, that is for sure, but I think that the Lakers will have a likely determine mind going into the regular season that is for sure, and I am really waiting for them as I now like the Los Angeles Lakers to be champion this season, while even though Anthony Davis has a masterclass performance in that game, Lebron James is the leader of the pack so it is really great for him to get this award,

Quote from: wheelz1200 on December 10, 2023, 03:18:44 PM

I mean they are contenders so to speak but not a huge threat I agree with you. With lebron wanting the best of his legacy he needed to have this win. Now he can add Champs of first play in tournament. But yeah a 7 game series is way different than a couple single elimination games. As for the injuries agreed its way too early to know but I'm sure injuries will shape this season at some point.

Kudos to the strategy of the Los Angeles Lakers they have shown true strategy and determination toward the game like in their game against the New Orleans Pelicans as they have some great strategy and exposed Zion Williamson's lack of movements, and Sure Zions is getting heavy again, and against the In Season Tournament finals against the Indiana Pacers they are double teaming Tyrese Haliburton always and they when he passes the ball they will return into a man to man defense, but for sure they are exposing every team's problem and that is why they have won this tournament,

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From being the hottest team last year to the most undiscussed team this season.
Memphis Grizzlies.
4 more games before Ja Morant's suspension will be lifted. 25 games were given to him. They are now in the 13th spot of the Western Conference rankings tied with the Portland Trail Blazers. Later, they will have a game against an undermanned team Dallas Mavericks. But even with that, I still doubt the Grizzlies can win this game. Although they successfully defeated them at their last meeting, that's a Luka-less team so it's difficult to believe they can win tonight with Luka leading the Mavs.

Anyway here is an update about Ja Morant.
Ja Morant suspension: Adam Silver says Grizzlies star has 'complied with everything' ahead of return
https://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/ja-morant-suspension-adam-silver-says-grizzlies-star-has-complied-with-everything-ahead-of-return/

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NBA commissioner Adam Silver told reporters on Saturday that he's planning to meet with Memphis Grizzlies guard Ja Morant ahead of the All-Star's return from his 25-game suspension. Silver said that Morant, who is eligible to return on Dec. 19, has 'complied with everything' the league has asked of him.

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"Yes, I have been monitoring the situation closely, and him. In fact, we intend to have a check-in this week directly, Ja and I. But folks in the league office, together with Ja and his team and the Players Association, have been in regular contact, essentially weekly. There have been those checkpoints.

"We've, together, laid out a program for him over the last several weeks, and to the best of my knowledge, he's complied with everything he's been asked to do. As I said, we'll talk at least once this week before he comes back, and we will review the program and make sure the conditions are in place for him to be successful going forward."

Ja was suspended for 8 games only, but he repeated his mistake so Commissioner Adam Silver decided to make it 25 games suspension.
Grizzlies will probably not be a good team yet when he comes back. More than a chemistry problem that they need to restart, they have lots of injured key players on their roster. Steven Adams is out for surgery, Brandon Clarke has his Achilles torn, Luke Kennard needs 3 weeks of healing of his left knee bone bruise, and they don't have Dillon Brooks anymore. There's a chance they will not make the playoffs this season unless Ja Morant comes back as a monster.

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Quote from: yazher on December 11, 2023, 08:24:57 AM

Thankfully, LBJ won the first in-season tournament because he won't have another chance next year because of his age and maybe this is the only championship he gets this year.

Are you kidding me? Why would you base on his age rather than his performance?

Look at Lebron's stats here ; https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/j/jamesle01.html

It doesn't even look like his performance has decline, and winning the in season tournament MVP is already a testament that he's still playing like a real NBA superstar. He won't be called Lebron the king for no reason, so while he is still playing, he is still the king.

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Quote from: Viscore on December 11, 2023, 08:15:37 AM

Hmmm,,,perhaps in the future, they could make it a best-of-three series to add more entertainment value. This would be especially enjoyable if the series is tied 1-1, giving the decisive Game 3 a Game 7 feeling.

Of course, since this is the first time, they are just making it familiar for the viewers and surely they will add more add-ons and other good stuff next year to make it more interesting just like the NBA playoffs where more viewers are interested. Thankfully, LBJ won the first in-season tournament because he won't have another chance next year because of his age and maybe this is the only championship he gets this year. But of course, they are not easily giving up and their ranking is high, this could also mean that they are aiming for the championship this year and they are more serious about it.

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Quote from: püsür on December 11, 2023, 08:08:26 AM

I think it was early in the season and happened so quickly. It could be better in the second half of the season.

I don't think the timing is ideal if they start the tournament in the second half. For me, it's not as exciting since the second half is the last part of the season, and the playoffs are approaching. It might not feel significant because the playoffs are generally more thrilling than this in-season tournament, which is played in just one game.

Hmmm,,,perhaps in the future, they could make it a best-of-three series to add more entertainment value. This would be especially enjoyable if the series is tied 1-1, giving the decisive Game 3 a Game 7 feeling.

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Quote from: EFS on December 10, 2023, 05:30:52 PM

Congrats to Lakers. LeBron is fantastic at this age, great stats. He's older than some coaches and almost at the same age as others. It's hard to play high level at that age in any sports, not just basketball, and he's still making near career average stats. Anthony Davis was insane last night, 41-20-5 in a final like that? That's insane performance. Lakers well deserved this first trophy. I wonder what will they change in the in-season tournament for next season though.

I was wondering the same thing. In season tournament was a nice fresh addition to the season and brought an excitement but it can be improved. I think it was early in the season and happened so quickly. It could be better in the second half of the season. Lakers really deserved it also though. I was not expecting that. When they are healthy, they are a force to be reckoned with. When AD is healthy, Lakers might surprise a lot of people this season, including me. I didn't give them any chance in the beginning of the season.

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Quote from: Hirose UK on December 11, 2023, 06:59:00 AM

The Warriors should have had big chance to win and when I saw they had the advantage I cheered because the Warriors were finally able to avenge their defeat in the previous meeting, but apparently they failed and all the advantages were reversed by the Thunder.
I also don't know why Green did all that but there must be certain purpose to what he did, it just that it is very unacceptable.

Chet Holmgren in this match did appear very impressive and he managed to provide 21 points for the Thunder victory over the Warriors, but to say that he deserved ROY is premature assumption.
It just that in the Thunder previous match Chet couldn't perform as well as against the Warriors, but at that time the Thunder lost to the Houston Rockets and Chet was only able to score 4 points.

To many people expect them to win on that match up but unfortunately they didn't sustain it and create a lot if mistakes. We see how inconsistent the Warriors this season and they are now speculated to be in huge trouble if they cannot fix all the issues they are facing now. Unfortunate thing happen on side of Green since he commit a huge mistake in that play that's why OKC take the momentum and get the huge win against Warriors.

I can say that after all the performance done by Chet this season for sure he is the fans favorite to win the ROTY. Maybe to early to tell since there's a lot might happen but I guess Wemby can't surpass him now knowing there's a lot of frustrations happening on side of Spurs.

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Quote from: Hirose UK on December 11, 2023, 06:59:00 AM

Chet Holmgren in this match did appear very impressive and he managed to provide 21 points for the Thunder victory over the Warriors, but to say that he deserved ROY is premature assumption.
It just that in the Thunder previous match Chet couldn't perform as well as against the Warriors, but at that time the Thunder lost to the Houston Rockets and Chet was only able to score 4 points.

This is the KIA ranking unpdated on November 30, 2023, and it says that Chet has maintain it's spot at the number 1.

https://www.nba.com/news/kia-rookie-ladder-nov-29-2023-edition

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1. Chet Holmgren, Oklahoma City Thunder
2. Victor Wembanyama, San Antonio Spurs
3. Jordan Hawkins, New Orleans Pelicans
4. Ausar Thompson, Detroit Pistons
5. Brandon Miller, Charlotte Hornets

You see, he is already at the top, it's just that Wemby is more popular because he was overhype, but in terms of stats and contribution to the team, Chet as the upper hand.

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This defeat against Thunder was the umpteenth time because previously they also lost against Thunder.
At the start of the match the Warriors seemed to be playing well and even had 14 point lead but as the match progressed the situation was reversed by the Thunder who started to recover and were able to score more points.
But this defeat seems much better than before because they only lost by aexperienci very small margin of 2 points and for some reason this season the Warriors are really experiencing bad phase because they are losing more often.
We can see in the table the Warriors match history that they always lose more often.
If conditions like this continue for long time without any improvements and changes, we can be sure that they will have difficulty occupying one of the top ranks in the Western region standings.

Yes, in terms of turnovers the Warriors committed 29 turnovers, which is the highest record this season.

It was a winnable game by the Warriors but I don't understand why Green fouled the game who gave them a heartache on their previous match up. Chet was really a cold blooded shooter, may it be in the 3 point area or in the FT line, he was sinking those 3 shots like there was no pressure at all, I guess he really deserve to win the ROY.

While Chet is enjoying his popularity now, unfortunately, Wemby and his Spurs continues their losing streak.

The Warriors should have had big chance to win and when I saw they had the advantage I cheered because the Warriors were finally able to avenge their defeat in the previous meeting, but apparently they failed and all the advantages were reversed by the Thunder.
I also don't know why Green did all that but there must be certain purpose to what he did, it just that it is very unacceptable.

Chet Holmgren in this match did appear very impressive and he managed to provide 21 points for the Thunder victory over the Warriors, but to say that he deserved ROY is premature assumption.
It just that in the Thunder previous match Chet couldn't perform as well as against the Warriors, but at that time the Thunder lost to the Houston Rockets and Chet was only able to score 4 points.

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Quote from: Captain Corporate on December 10, 2023, 02:48:14 AM

The great question about this win is this; do we think Lakers are good enough to try for the finals for real? Or did nobody cared about the title here? That is a very important question, Lakers looked like a great team when they won this in season tournament, but will they be able to go for it at the end of the season as well? I am not saying will they win, of course they may not, a team that is great right now may have many issues by the end, like injuries and fatigue, all I am asking are they contenders in your eye? Are they one of the teams that may win the title? To me, they are definitely good enough to have a chance, maybe not that easily but they do have a chance in my book but many do not think so.

For sure in the beginning, no one cares for this title, but when we see the final four teams, something shape up to this team, as we all know that they are all competitive. So firsts, yeah, they care about being the inaugural champion and then Lebron winning his MVP. So I guess this might boost the motivation of the Lakers team to go all the way this year and win the NBA championship and they could set a record for that.

But we all know that in order to win the championship, they will have to go to a grueling playoff series not just one game elimination. And as you have said, factors like fatigue and injuries play a very important role as well. So we shall see long far this Lakers can go without breaking apart.

they will surely aim for the title as much as they can. fatigue and other mishaps will always be a part of the game, now, as the season ends, it will be a battle of endurance between the teams. sometimes it is not anymore about who plays great here.
celtics and timberwolves are leading in eastern and western conferences, respectively. lakers is still in their 5th spot. but it is too early to tell which teams will face on the finals.

Too early and if I get it right there are also possible trades that may take place so we can't tell whether both teams who are on top right
now can secure that slot.

There are changes that may take place when the season is nearing all the teams that have their respective stars will really try pushing things forward.

We all know that it's still a long way for all the teams, they are still capable to bounce back and have their chance
to move up and be at the playoffs.

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Quote from: LogitechMouse on December 10, 2023, 08:44:35 PM

I'm not updating myself with regards to the in-season tournament, but can somebody tell here what will be the advantage of the Lakers now that they won the in-season tournament? I mean are there any benefits that they will be getting as the regular season progresses? Thank you very much

I think that was just to add more excitement but there was no advantage given by the NBA aside from the Lakers earn more confidence going forward, Also, the price isn't that huge compared to the contacts.

here's the information.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/antoniopequenoiv/2023/12/09/nba-in-season-tournament-championship-tips-off-tonight-heres-what-to-know-about-the-new-competition/?sh=7c499b5b66a3

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How much does NBA In-Season Tournament pay?
Players and coaches on the team that wins the NBA Cup will get $500,000—while runners-up will make $200,000, semifinalists received $100,000 and quarterfinalists $50,000, according to ESPN. Assistant coaches will share a separate pool of money that will be worth 75% of the winning coach's total, ESPN reported

And for more details, you can read the FAQ
https://www.nba.com/news/in-season-tournament-frequently-asked-questions

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Quote from: EFS on December 10, 2023, 05:30:52 PM

Congrats to Lakers. LeBron is fantastic at this age, great stats. He's older than some coaches and almost at the same age as others. It's hard to play high level at that age in any sports, not just basketball, and he's still making near career average stats. Anthony Davis was insane last night, 41-20-5 in a final like that? That's insane performance. Lakers well deserved this first trophy. I wonder what will they change in the in-season tournament for next season though.

I don't know TBH how Le-GM keeps his body like that. His work style maybe? His way of working on his body might affect it, but his performance in the last 2 to 3 games is just like we are watching a 20+-year-old player who is dominating the league still. He deserves that MVP trophy for sure.

As for AD, anybody who saw his grunting face that was caught on camera? That only shows that he's on fire with that game, and nobody on the Pacers can stop him. Turner can't just stop him, and that's the Davis that we want to see all year round. I've been quite impressed with him over the past months. He's barely getting injured, and if he gets injured, he will miss out only a couple of games then he's good to go. He wasn't like he was a few years ago where he will sit months because of his injury.

I'm not updating myself with regards to the in-season tournament, but can somebody tell here what will be the advantage of the Lakers now that they won the in-season tournament? I mean are there any benefits that they will be getting as the regular season progresses? Thank you very much

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Quote from: EFS on December 10, 2023, 05:30:52 PM

Congrats to Lakers. LeBron is fantastic at this age, great stats. He's older than some coaches and almost at the same age as others. It's hard to play high level at that age in any sports, not just basketball, and he's still making near career average stats. Anthony Davis was insane last night, 41-20-5 in a final like that? That's insane performance. Lakers well deserved this first trophy. I wonder what will they change in the in-season tournament for next season though.

I'm not sure if they need to change anything. The NBA got exactly what they wanted, front end of the season action. The best part for me was the last games of the round Robin when points mattered. Teams were up 20 in the fourth and kept theor starters in and were running up the scores. Hate when during a blowout they throw in their scrubs. Especially when you pay to go.

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Congrats to Lakers. LeBron is fantastic at this age, great stats. He's older than some coaches and almost at the same age as others. It's hard to play high level at that age in any sports, not just basketball, and he's still making near career average stats. Anthony Davis was insane last night, 41-20-5 in a final like that? That's insane performance. Lakers well deserved this first trophy. I wonder what will they change in the in-season tournament for next season though.

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Quote from: Captain Corporate on December 10, 2023, 02:48:14 AM

The great question about this win is this; do we think Lakers are good enough to try for the finals for real? Or did nobody cared about the title here? That is a very important question, Lakers looked like a great team when they won this in season tournament, but will they be able to go for it at the end of the season as well? I am not saying will they win, of course they may not, a team that is great right now may have many issues by the end, like injuries and fatigue, all I am asking are they contenders in your eye? Are they one of the teams that may win the title? To me, they are definitely good enough to have a chance, maybe not that easily but they do have a chance in my book but many do not think so.

For sure in the beginning, no one cares for this title, but when we see the final four teams, something shape up to this team, as we all know that they are all competitive. So firsts, yeah, they care about being the inaugural champion and then Lebron winning his MVP. So I guess this might boost the motivation of the Lakers team to go all the way this year and win the NBA championship and they could set a record for that.

But we all know that in order to win the championship, they will have to go to a grueling playoff series not just one game elimination. And as you have said, factors like fatigue and injuries play a very important role as well. So we shall see long far this Lakers can go without breaking apart.

they will surely aim for the title as much as they can. fatigue and other mishaps will always be a part of the game, now, as the season ends, it will be a battle of endurance between the teams. sometimes it is not anymore about who plays great here.
celtics and timberwolves are leading in eastern and western conferences, respectively. lakers is still in their 5th spot. but it is too early to tell which teams will face on the finals.

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