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I've read some statements from Steph that he's like one of the walls of the team and he shouldn't be traded because most of the decisions for each game, he's there to help.

Well, that's from the star players opinion and he might be one of the influence for whatever the management's decision.

But if it's about the actual business and what management think is best for the team, they may or may not consider any words from him.

At the end of the day, business is still a business. They will soon trade even Klay if he will not step up his game. I won't be surprised if the management will trade Draymond Green. They want someone who can help Steph, not someone who will cause problems for them.

I couldn't agree more with that.

NBA is a huge business and each team has their own interest to have the stronger line up and if they think that Dray and Wiggins are no longer effective on their end, they'll have them trade regardless of how many championships they've given to them.

We've seen stars even moving here and there and it doesn't matter to them anymore because that's how they understand how the entire business in the NBA works.

If it's going to be helpful to them and with Steph, they'll probably take another younger calibers.

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Quote from: OgNasty on January 04, 2024, 01:37:22 PM

Only 2 games on today but they’re both televised on TNT (and HBO Max I’ve recently learned). Last time the Spurs faced the Bucks Wemby was out so this should be an interesting matchup to watch as Wemby tries to stop Giannis. The Second game between the Warriors and the Nuggets should be a good matchup also, but I’m expecting Denver to win.

I like to go with the underdog Warriors over the Nuggets at Chase center. Warriors have been good in their homecourt and maybe Klay with a good match against the defender here, might go and fire some and get back his shooting. Of course, Curry will have to score 30+ or more for them to have a good chance, and then Kuminga and the rest of them.

I do agree, different era's different GOAT, but it's good to hear arguments for and against Jordan, Kobe and Lebron and who might be the best of them.

Each one has it's merit though, so for me, whoever you grow up watching and idolizing then that player could be your GOAT.

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I don't know what I was thinking putting money down on my Chicago Bulls last night. They were being given a decently 'healthy" +8.5 points, but not having Zach Lavine back yet as well as Nikola Vucevic was a bit of a stretch to think they could come close to beating the Knicks. They have played quite well all thing considered (not have Lavine for a month or so), so there's some solid progress but my Bulls are coming out of their losing ways for whats seemingly years to come.

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They need to give more focus on their improvement and continue to look for another opportunity to fix their lineups because this is not how it should end for Lebron when he wanted to be recognized as the GOAT in the NBA.

Kobe didn't end well his remaining seasons in the NBA but he was still recognized as one of the best. And I don't think Lebron is better than Kobe, Kobe wasn't even declared as GOAT as there's only one who is, and that is MJ.

Oohhh.. That's going to be another long debate. Cheesy

Well, for me they are GOAT of their own eras. MJ on his time, Kobe on his own, and so do Lebron James. I think that's the safest and most shortened version to avoid more discussions about it. For me though, it's MJ as the best of all these three that I mentioned.

Did anyone watch the game between the Utah Jazz and the Detroit Pistons? It's a battle of offense. Cheesy

The score went to a total of 302 points and ended in overtime. Sure, there's an overtime that may have caused the high points but their end-of-regulation score was 276 which is still high. Jazz has Clarkson with 36 points and Markkanen with 31 points. The Pistons have Bogdanovic with 36 points and Cunningham with 31. The regulation was the fun one. I though the Jazz ended it with the Markkanen three-pointer and the Pistons doesn't have a timeout but Alec Burks, damn, a buzzer-beater to tie the game.
In the end, the Jazz still won it.

So part of it mate, it was really a back and forth game between the two and it's unpredictable as who is going to win that game, and it's raining 3 point shot. But then that shot of Alec Burks forcing the OT to give hope to the Pistons that they can manage a win again.

But then again, the Jazz will have to close it out in OT, but if you have bet on the over on this match, you will be lucky to see that your bet has hit already entering the 4th quarter. Hard to compare the GOAT, it's a discussion that has been going on and even Michael himself has his own take about it.

I had the other side. I had an in game bet of under 273.5. That Alec Burks 29 footer but a nail in the under. Was a crazy game. Enjoyed it either way and then once I lost was rooting on Detroit. Burks coming from the Knicks I always root for anyway, but dude cost me money Sad

lol. I've watched Detroit play enough to know they shouldn't be losing all these games. They just need one piece that can get them through the end of game situations and get some fight into them. They need a defensive presence on that team.

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Quote from: danherbias07 on January 04, 2024, 08:17:18 AM

Quote from: Natalim on January 04, 2024, 07:44:14 AM

Quote from: yazher on January 04, 2024, 07:11:23 AM

They need to give more focus on their improvement and continue to look for another opportunity to fix their lineups because this is not how it should end for Lebron when he wanted to be recognized as the GOAT in the NBA.

Kobe didn't end well his remaining seasons in the NBA but he was still recognized as one of the best. And I don't think Lebron is better than Kobe, Kobe wasn't even declared as GOAT as there's only one who is, and that is MJ.

Oohhh.. That's going to be another long debate. Cheesy

Well, for me they are GOAT of their own eras. MJ on his time, Kobe on his own, and so do Lebron James. I think that's the safest and most shortened version to avoid more discussions about it. For me though, it's MJ as the best of all these three that I mentioned.

Did anyone watch the game between the Utah Jazz and the Detroit Pistons? It's a battle of offense. Cheesy

The score went to a total of 302 points and ended in overtime. Sure, there's an overtime that may have caused the high points but their end-of-regulation score was 276 which is still high. Jazz has Clarkson with 36 points and Markkanen with 31 points. The Pistons have Bogdanovic with 36 points and Cunningham with 31. The regulation was the fun one. I though the Jazz ended it with the Markkanen three-pointer and the Pistons doesn't have a timeout but Alec Burks, damn, a buzzer-beater to tie the game.
In the end, the Jazz still won it.

So part of it mate, it was really a back and forth game between the two and it's unpredictable as who is going to win that game, and it's raining 3 point shot. But then that shot of Alec Burks forcing the OT to give hope to the Pistons that they can manage a win again.

But then again, the Jazz will have to close it out in OT, but if you have bet on the over on this match, you will be lucky to see that your bet has hit already entering the 4th quarter. Hard to compare the GOAT, it's a discussion that has been going on and even Michael himself has his own take about it.

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Quote from: danherbias07 on January 04, 2024, 08:17:18 AM

Quote from: Natalim on January 04, 2024, 07:44:14 AM

Kobe didn't end well his remaining seasons in the NBA but he was still recognized as one of the best. And I don't think Lebron is better than Kobe, Kobe wasn't even declared as GOAT as there's only one who is, and that is MJ.

Oohhh.. That's going to be another long debate. Cheesy

Well, for me they are GOAT of their own eras. MJ on his time, Kobe on his own, and so do Lebron James. I think that's the safest and most shortened version to avoid more discussions about it. For me though, it's MJ as the best of all these three that I mentioned.

Did anyone watch the game between the Utah Jazz and the Detroit Pistons? It's a battle of offense. Cheesy

The score went to a total of 302 points and ended in overtime. Sure, there's an overtime that may have caused the high points but their end-of-regulation score was 276 which is still high. Jazz has Clarkson with 36 points and Markkanen with 31 points. The Pistons have Bogdanovic with 36 points and Cunningham with 31. The regulation was the fun one. I though the Jazz ended it with the Markkanen three-pointer and the Pistons doesn't have a timeout but Alec Burks, damn, a buzzer-beater to tie the game.
In the end, the Jazz still won it.

I believe that seems like nearly a record breaking amount, or maybe it already is and I am not sure because I do not know what's the combined highest for teams. I mean we have seen more at all-star games, specially recently, considering nobody ever plays defense at those games, but it feels like they are really just giving up defense at regular season games too.

Scoring 276 is feeling "a bit" normal these days, still a lot of course, but that's like scoring nearly 140 each. A game where Utah scored 154 and Pistons scored 148 just feels way too wrong, it is not really normal. I get that we are not in early 2000's where teams scored like 90 points each, we do have more high scoring games now, but not THIS high scoring, this is definitely huge.

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Quote from: OgNasty on January 04, 2024, 01:37:22 PM

Only 2 games on today but they’re both televised on TNT (and HBO Max I’ve recently learned). Last time the Spurs faced the Bucks Wemby was out so this should be an interesting matchup to watch as Wemby tries to stop Giannis. The Second game between the Warriors and the Nuggets should be a good matchup also, but I’m expecting Denver to win.

Yeah I'm looming forward to it too. I would imagine if the Bucks get out to a sizable lead which they very well can do, then you won't see much of giannis in the second half. Back to back road games I'm sure he could use a breather. All dependent on score though. Either way I will be tuning in to watch giannis terrorize the paint. And in the other game it almost seems like a trap game. All signs point towards Denver dominating this game with gs reeling but I've featured to never bet against steph in prime time. The lights do something to him. Should be a good one on his home court. I'm taking the Bucks-9 and a stab at the GS money line with the odds

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If the Lakers go bad like this, it seems like the Clippers will come to mind when Los Angeles is mentioned 🤔
Miami may not be a bad team, but they lost to Utah and the Clippers in their 3-game away series, but they beat the Lakers.
In the Lakers' Miami match, LeBron James appeared to be far from the contribution he should have made. Maybe he made 9 assists, but the 12 points he scored caused the loss.
In Miami, 8 players scored in double figures and although Anthony Davis was the top scorer of the match, Miami won the match 96-110.
With this result, the Lakers suffered their 3rd consecutive loss. He will play at home against Memphis on Saturday. If he loses this game, the next game will be the Clippers game and that game will be very difficult anyway.

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Only 2 games on today but they’re both televised on TNT (and HBO Max I’ve recently learned). Last time the Spurs faced the Bucks Wemby was out so this should be an interesting matchup to watch as Wemby tries to stop Giannis. The Second game between the Warriors and the Nuggets should be a good matchup also, but I’m expecting Denver to win.

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The Lakers continue to play poorly. Although in LA Lakers there are many star players with super salaries and contract values every season.

I think it's not only for playing well on the court because they are also making huge money from others the way which means they don't get bothered about their game result as long as those players are wearing the Lakers uniform when playing. I wonder what happened after they won the season tournament because all goes downhill after that for them and it seems like they are losing focus and struggling too much just to win a game in their last 10th games. They need to give more focus on their improvement and continue to look for another opportunity to fix their lineups because this is not how it should end for Lebron when he wanted to be recognized as the GOAT in the NBA.

Yes, it's noticeable that after the season tournament they start to show again that poor performance, they needed to work more on how they
blend games among players that inside the court.

Though, i also get that point that money is more important and as long as they are wearing that uniform and there are still fans who will continue
to buy for the tickets and all those merchandize that they are selling, they will continue to earn decently.

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Quote from: Natalim on January 04, 2024, 07:44:14 AM

Quote from: yazher on January 04, 2024, 07:11:23 AM

They need to give more focus on their improvement and continue to look for another opportunity to fix their lineups because this is not how it should end for Lebron when he wanted to be recognized as the GOAT in the NBA.

Kobe didn't end well his remaining seasons in the NBA but he was still recognized as one of the best. And I don't think Lebron is better than Kobe, Kobe wasn't even declared as GOAT as there's only one who is, and that is MJ.

Oohhh.. That's going to be another long debate. Cheesy

Well, for me they are GOAT of their own eras. MJ on his time, Kobe on his own, and so do Lebron James. I think that's the safest and most shortened version to avoid more discussions about it. For me though, it's MJ as the best of all these three that I mentioned.

Did anyone watch the game between the Utah Jazz and the Detroit Pistons? It's a battle of offense. Cheesy

The score went to a total of 302 points and ended in overtime. Sure, there's an overtime that may have caused the high points but their end-of-regulation score was 276 which is still high. Jazz has Clarkson with 36 points and Markkanen with 31 points. The Pistons have Bogdanovic with 36 points and Cunningham with 31. The regulation was the fun one. I though the Jazz ended it with the Markkanen three-pointer and the Pistons doesn't have a timeout but Alec Burks, damn, a buzzer-beater to tie the game.
In the end, the Jazz still won it.

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The Lakers continue to play poorly. Although in LA Lakers there are many star players with super salaries and contract values every season.

I think it's not only for playing well on the court because they are also making huge money from others the way which means they don't get bothered about their game result as long as those players are wearing the Lakers uniform when playing. I wonder what happened after they won the season tournament because all goes downhill after that for them and it seems like they are losing focus and struggling too much just to win a game in their last 10th games.

No one sees it coming. I don't know, maybe they thought that what they are playing now is a different season and their success in the IST was the NBA Finals. haha. they must be dreaming. If only Lebron and AD will carry the team, this is very bad for the Lakers as it could lead possible to a possible injury of Davis if he'll be more aggressive and play more minutes.

They have to figure out now. Not sure what the problem is here, is it the players now or the coach?

Quote from: yazher on January 04, 2024, 07:11:23 AM

They need to give more focus on their improvement and continue to look for another opportunity to fix their lineups because this is not how it should end for Lebron when he wanted to be recognized as the GOAT in the NBA.

Kobe didn't end well his remaining seasons in the NBA but he was still recognized as one of the best. And I don't think Lebron is better than Kobe, Kobe wasn't even declared as GOAT as there's only one who is, and that is MJ.

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Quote from: PokerBetting on January 04, 2024, 03:16:01 AM

The Lakers continue to play poorly. Although in LA Lakers there are many star players with super salaries and contract values every season.

I think it's not only for playing well on the court because they are also making huge money from others the way which means they don't get bothered about their game result as long as those players are wearing the Lakers uniform when playing. I wonder what happened after they won the season tournament because all goes downhill after that for them and it seems like they are losing focus and struggling too much just to win a game in their last 10th games. They need to give more focus on their improvement and continue to look for another opportunity to fix their lineups because this is not how it should end for Lebron when he wanted to be recognized as the GOAT in the NBA.

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Quote from: Questat on January 04, 2024, 12:59:59 AM

Lakers loss again. This team sucks!

The Lakers continue to play poorly. Although in LA Lakers there are many star players with super salaries and contract values every season.
1. lebron james 47 million dollars
2 anthony davis 40.6 million dollars
3. D angelo russel 17.6 million dollars
4. rui hachimura Japanese basketball player with a salary of 15.8 million dollars
5 austin revers 12 million dollars
and more

It doesn't guarantee that a team will play better because their players have received a huge contract. Lakers is just one of the teams that has its players with huge contract. We are seeing the players now but before it was the Warriors who also struggled and some of their players have huge salary this year.

Curry $51 million +
Thompson $43 million +
Chris Paul $30 million +
Wiggins $24 million +
Green $22 million +

https://www.spotrac.com/nba/golden-state-warriors/cap/

Warriors even paid more than the Lakers paid for their players.

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Quote from: Questat on January 04, 2024, 12:59:59 AM

Lakers loss again. This team sucks!

The Lakers continue to play poorly. Although in LA Lakers there are many star players with super salaries and contract values every season.
1. lebron james 47 million dollars
2 anthony davis 40.6 million dollars
3. D angelo russel 17.6 million dollars
4. rui hachimura Japanese basketball player with a salary of 15.8 million dollars
5 austin revers 12 million dollars
and more

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Quote from: Questat on January 04, 2024, 12:59:59 AM

Lakers loss again. This team sucks!

Their performance and demeanor are strongly suggesting for a change. This has been the kind of behaviour the Lakers are showing us the past few seasons after they won the championship back in the bubble, after that everything was f*cked up for the Lakers. It's funny to think that they been actually playing good offense and defense in the IST, but it seems like the only encouraging factor for them to become that good is the $500k prize lol.
I don't know what kind of changes/trades the Lakers are going to do this season, but I'm 90% sure they'll gonna pull up a surprising trade and I'm not gonna ve surprised it would involve DLo, Reaves, Rui, or Vando. One or two of these guys would get traded for sure.

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Quote from: Questat on January 04, 2024, 12:59:59 AM

Lakers loss again. This team sucks!

After winning the IST championship, they seemed to change their identity. They fall to the Butler-less Miami Heat, and the score wasn't even close. Lebron and Davis badly need a help and it seemed like the supporting players aren't the way they should be.

LA Lakers is really bad on their 3 point shooting, they need to hire a consistent shooter beyond the arc, this game they shot only 13% or 4-30, they can't win with that number.

Ya, something is up with them. Now they’re back below .500 after their great start.

The Pistons took the Jazz into overtime and barely lost. That’s pretty huge for them. They seem like they’ve had enough embarrassment and are ready to turn a corner.

The Clippers beat the Suns to improve on their great record. I’m surprised how quickly the Clippers turned things around…

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Quote from: xLays on January 04, 2024, 01:50:38 AM

Looks like a win win trade situation for the Raptors and the Knicks. Both teams have been playing great since the trade happened. Jalen Brunson is performing like a point god with 13+ assists in the last two games. With RJ and Quickley being traded it opens up more plays for Brunson, Randle and every other Knicks player. OG Anunoby has been the best acquisition for the Knicks so far!

Looking good so far. I'm just more concern about the Knicks here as they don't have some consistency, but winning 2 in a row is something. I mean, they are suppose to be in the adjustments period but after the trade the new player already help the team to win. Bruson is good in scoring, that's his specialty, so getting 13 assists is a big improvement, and if he would continue to show that consistency, he would easily average a double double and could potentially be in the list of MVP candidates this season.

In their game against the Bulls where they won by double digits, it's evident that they are sharing the ball effectively.

As a result their shooting percentage is very high at 52%, in average they are lower than that IMO. Additionally, in the rebounding department, they dominated the Bulls.

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Looks like a win win trade situation for the Raptors and the Knicks. Both teams have been playing great since the trade happened. Jalen Brunson is performing like a point god with 13+ assists in the last two games. With RJ and Quickley being traded it opens up more plays for Brunson, Randle and every other Knicks player. OG Anunoby has been the best acquisition for the Knicks so far!

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Lakers loss again. This team sucks!

After winning the IST championship, they seemed to change their identity. They fall to the Butler-less Miami Heat, and the score wasn't even close. Lebron and Davis badly need a help and it seemed like the supporting players aren't the way they should be.

LA Lakers is really bad on their 3 point shooting, they need to hire a consistent shooter beyond the arc, this game they shot only 13% or 4-30, they can't win with that number.

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