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Quote from: FanEagle on October 07, 2023, 02:30:10 PM

There is absolutely zero chance that USA would lose in the Olympics, and that's basically the whole point of it. There are other nations that keep on talking about "champions of world lol" type of things because USA sent their low value players and because of that they think that they could actually beat USA nad be better than American players.

Now that players like Lebron, Curry, Booker and all that (I think durant too) coming, and even making Embiid an American just for this, which is a big deal if you ask me, then we are going to see the real domination. I am sensing that there will be something silly for this tournament, like we may actually end up seeing like a 40 point difference just on the finals, it is going to be a show for them not a game. It is going to be basically generals vs globetrotters all tournament long, nobody could even get within 10 points of them.

I wouldn't go that far. In years past like back with the dream team yes. The world has caught up with the US. While I think they would win it with their top players it's not that they would win in the finals by 40 against another top nation.

The 1992 dream team with Jordan, magic, ewing, malone, etc etc only won by 32 in the finals and that's when the US really dominated basketball.

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There is absolutely zero chance that USA would lose in the Olympics, and that's basically the whole point of it. There are other nations that keep on talking about "champions of world lol" type of things because USA sent their low value players and because of that they think that they could actually beat USA nad be better than American players.

Now that players like Lebron, Curry, Booker and all that (I think durant too) coming, and even making Embiid an American just for this, which is a big deal if you ask me, then we are going to see the real domination. I am sensing that there will be something silly for this tournament, like we may actually end up seeing like a 40 point difference just on the finals, it is going to be a show for them not a game. It is going to be basically generals vs globetrotters all tournament long, nobody could even get within 10 points of them.

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Quote from: cryptomaniac_xxx on October 07, 2023, 09:24:04 AM

You can also make that argument for Russell Westbrook, there are huge downside on him but still the Lakers did pick him up and most likely regret their decision because at that time they acquire him, they thought that he can blend well with James and help the Lakers. And finally he was shift to the Clippers and so there are still team that are willing to take him. So the same case for Harden as well, many downside, dramatic, doesn't want to play defense, but I think there could be more teams still wanting to get his service even if he is aging or maybe lost a step or two with the 76ers. So the saga will continue this season until he found a new team and then the cycle of him and Westbrook might be the same.

At least Russ defense compared to Harden that literally just watching enemy to score on his face. Harden is not contributing the way he score during his stay on Rockets and OKC.
His attitude is already a pain in the ass while he should playing as a leader due to his seniority.

There’s a lot of PG out there that contributes both offense and defense while cost less dollar than him. He is just being paid high due to his performance not to the current one. I believe only few years of continuous performance like this will surely put him to Russ spot.

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Quote from: Hypnosis00 on October 07, 2023, 02:52:55 AM

With this lineup, it feels like the gold is pretty much assured. They can't afford to make the same mistake of underestimating other countries, especially after not even qualifying for the gold medal round in the FIBA World Cup. No more excuses; they need to correct that mistake and win at the Olympics.

Now, as for the betting odds, I'm also curious. I think they should be around 1.10 or even lower because this lineup seems unbeatable.

That's true, it's going to be difficult to defeat them with that kind of weapon they have.
Yes, could be lower. 1.05. Cheesy

I may not even take the risk of betting for another country if they are sending those monsters. That's a suicide, imho.

Team USA authorities really made a mistake in sending mostly young guys to FIBA (not that they aren't good) and I do think they will get it right next time. Just adding Kevin Durant will probably enhance the winning chance. What more with Steph, Booker, Lebron, AD, and Beal? Germany will have a hard time with them especially if they cannot leave anyone open which will scatter the floor. Serbia might also need Jokic if they want to keep that high seed that they received in FIBA.

Anyway, the Timberwolves are in a good lead again versus the Mavericks in Abu Dhabi this preseason. They might win this again. And then later, Warriors versus Lakers. Let's see how hyped the NBA will be even if it's just preseason. Finally, we are here after a long rest.

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Looks like we’re going to see Chris Paul play today for the Warriors. The season is just around the corner. I’ll have to check and see if there’s any way for me to watch the game. I suspect there isn’t, so I’ll probably have to catch the highlights on YouTube later. I’m not expecting much after Kyrie’a performance the other day, but real basketball is coming!

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Quote from: dwyane36 on October 07, 2023, 07:50:27 AM

Quote from: xzone on October 07, 2023, 03:59:46 AM

We don't know how much the Clippers want Harden. It may not be a logical transfer for them

Rumors of a possible trade of Harden to the Clippers initially sounded illogical as the Clippers already have players like Kawhi, Paul, and Westbrook. So, I don't think Harden is really the player they need. However, as we can see, there are still rumors that the Clippers are interested in him, which means that the Clippers' management might believe Harden could be useful to them in some way.

Harden might be a great passer, but Westbrook can be a good Point Guard as well, if given the chance.

The Clippers are in need of a Point Guard. Kawhi and PG can't be one. Westbrook can be their starting PG since he has been a good Point Guard through out his career. His career only got ruined when he went to the Lakers, but we can't remove the fact that he can make passes Harden can do.

Like you, I don't also think that the Clippers will try, and pursue Harden knowing that they have Russ as their PG already. I'll stick to what I said that no team want's to pursue him, or at least gamble, and get him in exchange for multiple draft picks. Harden will most probably stay with the Sixers for at least the first half of the season while for the Clippers, I would like to see Westbrook redeem himself after what happened to him in the last seasons. I still believe that he can still make those flashy passes like what he's doing back then.

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Quote from: Baofeng on October 06, 2023, 10:13:44 PM

Regarding Joel intentions of joining the US team, here is what Rudy Gobert has to say,

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"I am happy for him. I guess we'll see him in Paris. I am happy for him, as long as he does what makes him happy and he follows his heart. That's what matters."

https://twitter.com/FadeawayWorld/status/1710037148408111522

And then the captain of the French Basketball team, Nic Batum,

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“I was more than happy to welcome him to the team, and he took the best decision for him,” Batum said. “I would have taken the same one.”

https://twitter.com/AndrewGreif/status/1710068649514369079

So I guess everyone in the French team is not affected by Joel joining the US instead of them. Nevertheless, for sure this is going to be a very competitive Olympics in Paris as far as for the US and the rest of the world.

Embiid's mentality is probably to have the best way to secure the gold. That is probably the best chance he gets a championship. But hopefully, he won't cry if the US will lose. Since I was a kid and started watching Olympics basketball, I cannot remember Team USA failing to bag the championships, they always dominate. But the Paris Olympics basketball is indeed going to be very competitive as the biggest stars will be joining their respective countries. Jokic, Giannis, and Wemby are also expected to play.

Although there are only two countries where basketball is the #1 sport, it continues to grow and there are more superstars that come outside the US.

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Quote from: AHOYBRAUSE on October 07, 2023, 08:49:59 AM

Quote from: dwyane36 on October 07, 2023, 07:50:27 AM

Quote from: xzone on October 07, 2023, 03:59:46 AM

We don't know how much the Clippers want Harden. It may not be a logical transfer for them

Rumors of a possible trade of Harden to the Clippers initially sounded illogical as the Clippers already have players like Kawhi, Paul, and Westbrook. So, I don't think Harden is really the player they need. However, as we can see, there are still rumors that the Clippers are interested in him, which means that the Clippers' management might believe Harden could be useful to them in some way.

I don't understand how ANY team wants Harden.
Sure he can make some points and assists but the downside is much higher:

- doesn't want to play defense
- NO loyalty at all, likely to request a trade or wants the coach fired after 6 months
- lack of professionalism, party is more important than games
- locker room problems, openly criticizing other members of the team
- just not worth 30 million a year, neither the money or the cap space
- getting old

Also which team with a good PG wants/needs an aging Harden??

You can also make that argument for Russell Westbrook, there are huge downside on him but still the Lakers did pick him up and most likely regret their decision because at that time they acquire him, they thought that he can blend well with James and help the Lakers. And finally he was shift to the Clippers and so there are still team that are willing to take him. So the same case for Harden as well, many downside, dramatic, doesn't want to play defense, but I think there could be more teams still wanting to get his service even if he is aging or maybe lost a step or two with the 76ers. So the saga will continue this season until he found a new team and then the cycle of him and Westbrook might be the same.

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Quote from: dwyane36 on October 07, 2023, 07:50:27 AM

Quote from: xzone on October 07, 2023, 03:59:46 AM

We don't know how much the Clippers want Harden. It may not be a logical transfer for them

Rumors of a possible trade of Harden to the Clippers initially sounded illogical as the Clippers already have players like Kawhi, Paul, and Westbrook. So, I don't think Harden is really the player they need. However, as we can see, there are still rumors that the Clippers are interested in him, which means that the Clippers' management might believe Harden could be useful to them in some way.

I don't understand how ANY team wants Harden.
Sure he can make some points and assists but the downside is much higher:

- doesn't want to play defense
- NO loyalty at all, likely to request a trade or wants the coach fired after 6 months
- lack of professionalism, party is more important than games
- locker room problems, openly criticizing other members of the team
- just not worth 30 million a year, neither the money or the cap space
- getting old

Also which team with a good PG wants/needs an aging Harden??

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Quote from: xzone on October 07, 2023, 03:59:46 AM

We don't know how much the Clippers want Harden. It may not be a logical transfer for them

Rumors of a possible trade of Harden to the Clippers initially sounded illogical as the Clippers already have players like Kawhi, Paul, and Westbrook. So, I don't think Harden is really the player they need. However, as we can see, there are still rumors that the Clippers are interested in him, which means that the Clippers' management might believe Harden could be useful to them in some way.

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Quote from: Distinctin on October 07, 2023, 12:37:43 AM

@Baofeng, I didn't know that. I thought Embiid was all-American.

I did some quick research, and it seems like he has a few nationalities to choose from:

-American
-French
-Cameroonian

Well, he's got the freedom to choose which country he wants to play for, but I get why some folks might be disappointed. I mean, the USA already has an abundance of talent, and Embiid could have been a real asset if he chose to play for France.

Yes, mate, he holds dual citizenship, one US and one French. And it was said that Joel was really fluent in French. But he mostly stayed in the States for the rest of his life and settled there and had a son who has US citizenship.

But just imagine though, I mean Joel + Wemby + Gobert, Lol, playing for the French national team in the Olympics. All of them are well over 7 feet tall.

https://twitter.com/JoelEmbiid/status/1710067831339884793

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Quote from: Distinctin on October 07, 2023, 12:37:43 AM

@Baofeng, I didn't know that. I thought Embiid was all-American.

I did some quick research, and it seems like he has a few nationalities to choose from:

-American
-French
-Cameroonian

Well, he's got the freedom to choose which country he wants to play for, but I get why some folks might be disappointed. I mean, the USA already has an abundance of talent, and Embiid could have been a real asset if he chose to play for France.

Yes, if I'm not mistaken, he hold dual citizenship as well. That's why there is a big noise of him wanting to play with US team since he had Cameroonian blood (both his parents are are from Cameroon and he was born there). Then moved to the US to pursue his basketball.

His reasoning though is very simple, his son is American that's why he wanted to play with the US team.

But it's up to US whether they will embrace Joel as a American or not, so we will have to wait and see. And I think there's nothing wrong with his request though.

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Quote from: dezoel on October 06, 2023, 05:04:10 PM

The rumors about Clippers and Harden is just rumors at this point. There isn't any official statement regarding the situation from anyone, so we can't really get any valid news, nothing we can provide proof for. So we need to wait until something concrete happens, either the trade may happen, or maybe it is all just a rumor and not real.

There's a reason why it became a rumor, because someone from the inside just tip the people from the media, thus it became a rumor. There is a possibility for it to happen since they are on the process of making the deal. There are no "official" about rumors, so I don't get what you mean here. We have the guys like Adrian Wojnarowski who can give us some reliable rumors surrounding the NBA.
As far as the trade rumors are concerned, as I've said, I believe the Sixers is in a lot of pressure right now trying dispose of Harden. The Clippers can easily decline what they demand. Most probably Harden is gonna play with the Sixers this season, but with a bad relationship with the management.

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Quote from: Viscore on October 07, 2023, 03:35:27 AM

Quote from: Hypnosis00 on October 07, 2023, 02:52:55 AM

Now, as for the betting odds, I'm also curious. I think they should be around 1.10 or even lower because this lineup seems unbeatable.

It's been out for a while now, and with this lineup, the USA is the clear favorite to win, like a heavy favorite. But it's not as low as 1.10; the projected odds are -250, which is equivalent to 1.4 in decimal odds. If you want to check out the odds for the other teams, you can go ahead and visit the link below.

https://www.covers.com/basketball/olympic-mens-basketball-odds

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Country   Odds
USA USA   -250
Serbia Serbia   +400
Canada Canada   +500
France France   +700
Germany Germany   +800
Australia Australia   +1,200
Spain Spain   +1,400
Slovenia Slovenia   +2,000

With that possible lineup, this odd might be a good catch for those early bettors, though we don't know if this will be finalized
or there are still negotiations and changes in terms of availability of those stars that mentioned.

Though for sure, there are already gamblers who took this one and already place their future bet for this possible Olympic gold medalist.

Let's wait and see if what will be the final lineup, if all those mentioned names will be available and if they will commit to play for team U.S

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Quote from: dezoel on October 06, 2023, 05:04:10 PM

The rumors about Clippers and Harden is just rumors at this point. There isn't any official statement regarding the situation from anyone, so we can't really get any valid news, nothing we can provide proof for. So we need to wait until something concrete happens, either the trade may happen, or maybe it is all just a rumor and not real.

I think it should be important to note that we are not going to end up with anything that would benefit anyone neither, I just think that Harden to Clippers would be hard and Clippers may want him for the time being but the longer it takes the more they may reconsider their options. They already have a decent team, and getting someone that constantly had issues so far doesn't feel all that well.

For Harden's trade to happen, a good offer must come from the Clippers. If the Clippers do not give the draft choices, this trade will not happen. While everyone knows the problems Philadelphia is having with Harden, it does not seem easy for this trade to happen.
We don't know how much the Clippers want Harden. It may not be a logical transfer for them

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Quote from: Hypnosis00 on October 07, 2023, 02:52:55 AM

Now, as for the betting odds, I'm also curious. I think they should be around 1.10 or even lower because this lineup seems unbeatable.

It's been out for a while now, and with this lineup, the USA is the clear favorite to win, like a heavy favorite. But it's not as low as 1.10; the projected odds are -250, which is equivalent to 1.4 in decimal odds. If you want to check out the odds for the other teams, you can go ahead and visit the link below.

https://www.covers.com/basketball/olympic-mens-basketball-odds

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Country   Odds
USA USA   -250
Serbia Serbia   +400
Canada Canada   +500
France France   +700
Germany Germany   +800
Australia Australia   +1,200
Spain Spain   +1,400
Slovenia Slovenia   +2,000

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Quote from: danherbias07 on October 07, 2023, 02:46:58 AM

Quote from: Distinctin on October 07, 2023, 12:37:43 AM

@Baofeng, I didn't know that. I thought Embiid was all-American.

I did some quick research, and it seems like he has a few nationalities to choose from:

-American
-French
-Cameroonian

Well, he's got the freedom to choose which country he wants to play for, but I get why some folks might be disappointed. I mean, the USA already has an abundance of talent, and Embiid could have been a real asset if he chose to play for France.

I learned Embiid was from Cameroon when Paskal Siakam kicked him and I think that's one of the popular technical fouls that was called in the NBA. Embiid didn't even try to fight him and the commentator said they are both from Cameroon, that is why.
But this is the first time I discovered that he is also French.

Anyway, here is CBS projection of Team USA roster that will be going to Paris Olympics.
Stephen Curry
Kevin Durant
Devin Booker
Bradley Beal
LeBron James
Anthony Davis
Kawhi Leonard
Paul George
Jayson Tatum
Jaylen Brown
Bam Adebayo
Draymond Green
and more...
https://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/2024-paris-olympics-projecting-team-usas-12-man-roster-with-joel-embiid-joining-lebron-james-stephen-curry/
Those are the players who committed they will play if asked or it's open. This is going to be a superstar roster that will be difficult to defeat. I don't actually like it because I want the Olympics to be more of a competitive event but I think this will boost other countries will to defeat them. We'll see.

With this lineup, it feels like the gold is pretty much assured. They can't afford to make the same mistake of underestimating other countries, especially after not even qualifying for the gold medal round in the FIBA World Cup. No more excuses; they need to correct that mistake and win at the Olympics.

Now, as for the betting odds, I'm also curious. I think they should be around 1.10 or even lower because this lineup seems unbeatable.

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Quote from: Distinctin on October 07, 2023, 12:37:43 AM

@Baofeng, I didn't know that. I thought Embiid was all-American.

I did some quick research, and it seems like he has a few nationalities to choose from:

-American
-French
-Cameroonian

Well, he's got the freedom to choose which country he wants to play for, but I get why some folks might be disappointed. I mean, the USA already has an abundance of talent, and Embiid could have been a real asset if he chose to play for France.

I learned Embiid was from Cameroon when Paskal Siakam kicked him and I think that's one of the popular technical fouls that was called in the NBA. Embiid didn't even try to fight him and the commentator said they are both from Cameroon, that is why.
But this is the first time I discovered that he is also French.

Anyway, here is CBS projection of Team USA roster that will be going to Paris Olympics.
Stephen Curry
Kevin Durant
Devin Booker
Bradley Beal
LeBron James
Anthony Davis
Kawhi Leonard
Paul George
Jayson Tatum
Jaylen Brown
Bam Adebayo
Draymond Green
and more...
https://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/2024-paris-olympics-projecting-team-usas-12-man-roster-with-joel-embiid-joining-lebron-james-stephen-curry/
Those are the players who committed they will play if asked or it's open. This is going to be a superstar roster that will be difficult to defeat. I don't actually like it because I want the Olympics to be more of a competitive event but I think this will boost other countries will to defeat them. We'll see.

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@Baofeng, I didn't know that. I thought Embiid was all-American.

I did some quick research, and it seems like he has a few nationalities to choose from:

-American
-French
-Cameroonian

Well, he's got the freedom to choose which country he wants to play for, but I get why some folks might be disappointed. I mean, the USA already has an abundance of talent, and Embiid could have been a real asset if he chose to play for France.

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Regarding Joel intentions of joining the US team, here is what Rudy Gobert has to say,

Quote

"I am happy for him. I guess we'll see him in Paris. I am happy for him, as long as he does what makes him happy and he follows his heart. That's what matters."

https://twitter.com/FadeawayWorld/status/1710037148408111522

And then the captain of the French Basketball team, Nic Batum,

Quote

“I was more than happy to welcome him to the team, and he took the best decision for him,” Batum said. “I would have taken the same one.”

https://twitter.com/AndrewGreif/status/1710068649514369079

So I guess everyone in the French team is not affected by Joel joining the US instead of them. Nevertheless, for sure this is going to be a very competitive Olympics in Paris as far as for the US and the rest of the world.

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