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The Lakers seemed to be having a bit of hangover after winning the championship in the in season tournament.

They are down 10 points now against a Irving-Less Dallas Mavericks.
I hope they will comeback in the 2nd half and win this game.

BTW, I've taken them live with an odds of 3.06. Good luck to me!

They came back and even take the lead, but the Mavericks also have a big 4th quarter and was able to outrun the Lakers. It was just a 2 point game( final result), if you had taken the handicap instead, you'll likely have the win. Anyway, gambling it is, we sometimes go for bigger reward but big reward does not win most of the time.

I thought LeBron and AD both had good games. Looking at the box scores you have to really dig to see how the Lakers lost this one. In the end I think it boiled down to turnovers. The Lakers had 15 while the Mavericks only had 10. Give the Lakers and extra 5 possessions and I think this game turns out a little bit differently.

They didn't play well in the first half, that's the problem. And when they successfully have a big run in the 3rd quarter to make it a close game, they were outscored in the 4th quarter by the home team. I think the Lakers just did what they usually do, you can see Davis, Lebron and Reaves have some great numbers but on the other team, Hardway and Exum scoring 32 and 26 respecctively, that's kinda unusual.

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Quote from: Finestream on December 12, 2023, 11:08:20 PM

Quote from: stadus on December 12, 2023, 08:54:11 PM

The Lakers seemed to be having a bit of hangover after winning the championship in the in season tournament.

They are down 10 points now against a Irving-Less Dallas Mavericks.
I hope they will comeback in the 2nd half and win this game.

BTW, I've taken them live with an odds of 3.06. Good luck to me!

They came back and even take the lead, but the Mavericks also have a big 4th quarter and was able to outrun the Lakers. It was just a 2 point game( final result), if you had taken the handicap instead, you'll likely have the win. Anyway, gambling it is, we sometimes go for bigger reward but big reward does not win most of the time.

I thought LeBron and AD both had good games. Looking at the box scores you have to really dig to see how the Lakers lost this one. In the end I think it boiled down to turnovers. The Lakers had 15 while the Mavericks only had 10. Give the Lakers and extra 5 possessions and I think this game turns out a little bit differently.

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Quote from: stadus on December 12, 2023, 08:54:11 PM

The Lakers seemed to be having a bit of hangover after winning the championship in the in season tournament.

They are down 10 points now against a Irving-Less Dallas Mavericks.
I hope they will comeback in the 2nd half and win this game.

BTW, I've taken them live with an odds of 3.06. Good luck to me!

They came back and even take the lead, but the Mavericks also have a big 4th quarter and was able to outrun the Lakers. It was just a 2 point game( final result), if you had taken the handicap instead, you'll likely have the win. Anyway, gambling it is, we sometimes go for bigger reward but big reward does not win most of the time.

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The Lakers seemed to be having a bit of hangover after winning the championship in the in season tournament.

They are down 10 points now against a Irving-Less Dallas Mavericks.
I hope they will comeback in the 2nd half and win this game.

BTW, I've taken them live with an odds of 3.06. Good luck to me!

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For winning a ROTY? I guess Wemby is totally out performed by Chet since he and his teammates are doing more better this season. So he have more higher chance to win that and provably a lot of people will agree.

I agree, if it's about the standing then no doubt that Chet is more desirable than Wemby. Too bad that the Spurs fan and everyone had a lot of expectations from him but it seems that it's not yet his time and there's more need for development.

While for Chet, he's doing good together with his teammates and they're having a good run this season. Anyway, it's been the two that are being clocked in as the potential ROTY but it seems that Wemby will be out of that list.

And it's likely that Chet is going to be the one that shall receive the award of the ROTY but let's see, there are also other good candidates for it.

For sure, lots are disappointed. It''s not what most are expecting considering he is the most anticipated rookie since Lebron as they say but he is too far from what Lebron had done in his rookie year. He is most likely not going to playoffs with his team either. They are now in a losing streak. They are against the Lakers on their next game so it might continue.

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Quote from: Oasisman on December 12, 2023, 05:02:44 PM

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Some good matchups today and they’re being televised on TNT. First you have the Los Angeles Lakers and Dallas Mavericks which is almost certain to be worth the watch as LeBron James and Luka Doncic facing off never disappoints. Then you have the Suns and Warriors which have their own set of superstars facing off.

The Lakers are kind of interesting to watch after their IST run because they became efficient and strong defensively. I'm not sure but LeBron may have influenced his teammates to play their best including AD. I noticed that LeBron's became more aggressive during the IST semis and finals. I hope he maintain that kind of energy throughout the season and most especially in the playoffs, because the whole team needs it.
Let's see if he will slow down or play the same against Dallas.

Right, maybe they got a renewed spirit winning a the first in-game tournament. Which means that they might go and look for the biggest reward which is the NBA championship with Lebron and AD doing their best.

And you can sense that this is a complete them, they also have good defensive mindset players now. It's good to see that they have transformed Cam Reddish to be their wing defender, similar to what Aaron Gordon is with the Denver Nuggets.

So let's see if they will go full force against Dallas in this game.

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Quote from: avp2306 on December 12, 2023, 05:25:56 PM

For winning a ROTY? I guess Wemby is totally out performed by Chet since he and his teammates are doing more better this season. So he have more higher chance to win that and provably a lot of people will agree.

I agree, if it's about the standing then no doubt that Chet is more desirable than Wemby. Too bad that the Spurs fan and everyone had a lot of expectations from him but it seems that it's not yet his time and there's more need for development.

While for Chet, he's doing good together with his teammates and they're having a good run on this season. Anyway, it's been the two that are being clocked in as the potential ROTY but it seems that Wemby will be out of that list.

And it's likely that Chet is going to be the one that shall receive the award of the ROTY but let's see, there are also other good candidates for it.

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Quote from: freedomgo on December 12, 2023, 07:37:31 AM

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I guess Coach Pop already said to Wemby that he must forget that ROTY title because winning a title for the team is way better than that title. TBH, I have trust in Coach Pop. I mean who doesn't? The coach has been in the league for decades, is the most winningest coach in NBA history, and trying to develop a generational player in Wembanyama.

On the other hand, Chet will get that ROTY no doubt. The question right now for the whole Thunder team is can they play the same when they clinch the playoffs? Might be too early though.

You can't say thay to your player if Coach Pop really said that since it can lower down the motivation of his hype player to do more better job. But if this is true then maybe he just said that its because he already know that Wemby is already behind with Chet which is doing so good this season. Just to bad he cannot get enough help that's why provably he will just miss that ROTY award.

Chet is now the favorite player pointed out to win the ROTY due to his performance and contribution to his team and if he consistently doing some nice thing and OKC always win then no doubt that he successfully acquired that thropy.

Winning the title isn't on the discussion yet if it's the Spurs. They are a rebuilding team so they should focus first on improving, maybe the main goal for now is getting into the playoffs, and with their record now, it's safe to say that this season they'll fail.

On the discussion whether Wemby will win a ROY, it's unlikely now but since it's still early ,there's still time to recover for him to improve his individual performance. Afterall, ROY criteria does not significantly involve the team's performance, so he still has a shot.

I think you misquote me regarding on winning a title since I never say that. Try to read the above message above I replied since he is the one discussing about the title.

But on other hand we can't really expect them to go title contention this season since expect them to fail with that since they are rebuilding. They are trying to figure out their talents and maybe they do more better performance next season. But what they don't expect is the heavy losing streak they encounter since this is really disappointinf part here.

For winning a ROTY? I guess Wemby is totally out performed by Chet since he and his teammates are doing more better this season. So he have more higher chance to win that and provably a lot of people will agree.

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Quote from: OgNasty on December 12, 2023, 12:19:38 PM

Some good matchups today and they’re being televised on TNT. First you have the Los Angeles Lakers and Dallas Mavericks which is almost certain to be worth the watch as LeBron James and Luka Doncic facing off never disappoints. Then you have the Suns and Warriors which have their own set of superstars facing off.

The Lakers are kind of interesting to watch after their IST run because they became efficient and strong defensively. I'm not sure but LeBron may have influenced his teammates to play their best including AD. I noticed that LeBron's became more aggressive during the IST semis and finals. I hope he maintain that kind of energy throughout the season and most especially in the playoffs, because the whole team needs it.
Let's see if he will slow down or play the same against Dallas.

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Quote from: OgNasty on December 12, 2023, 12:19:38 PM

Some good matchups today and they’re being televised on TNT. First you have the Los Angeles Lakers and Dallas Mavericks which is almost certain to be worth the watch as LeBron James and Luka Doncic facing off never disappoints. Then you have the Suns and Warriors which have their own set of superstars facing off.

Definitely a good day for NBA fans with almost all of the top teams in action and no scrub games tonight.

The Mavs should be well rested against a I supposed tired Lakers team. The problem though is Kyrie is already out with Luka listed as questionable. Same is for LBJ and AD of the Lakers. If these 4 are out the top game will be just another game. Cry

Since our German national center Daniel Theiss is with the Clippers I follow them a little bit more now. Theiss had solid numbers off the bench in his first games. It was so strange with the Pacers giving him a combined 4 minutes in 14 games. Of course he is no starting center or something but his defence is solid and if you use him right on offence he can produce good numbers as a role players.

I am glad he found a new home with an actual role , at least until Plumlee comes back. Roll Eyes

Nah they probably all will suit up besides kyrie. Dallas is on the second game of a back to back and the Lakers are the team that hasn't played since Saturday so I think you meant the opposite? Either way yeah there are some solid games in there. I even expect the bulls to show up here. Got them in as a sneaky ML pick.

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Quote from: OgNasty on December 12, 2023, 12:19:38 PM

Some good matchups today and they’re being televised on TNT. First you have the Los Angeles Lakers and Dallas Mavericks which is almost certain to be worth the watch as LeBron James and Luka Doncic facing off never disappoints. Then you have the Suns and Warriors which have their own set of superstars facing off.

Definitely a good day for NBA fans with almost all of the top teams in action and no scrub games tonight.

The Mavs should be well rested against a I supposed tired Lakers team. The problem though is Kyrie is already out with Luka listed as questionable. Same is for LBJ and AD of the Lakers. If these 4 are out the top game will be just another game. Cry

Since our German national center Daniel Theiss is with the Clippers I follow them a little bit more now. Theiss had solid numbers off the bench in his first games. It was so strange with the Pacers giving him a combined 4 minutes in 14 games. Of course he is no starting center or something but his defence is solid and if you use him right on offence he can produce good numbers as a role players.

I am glad he found a new home with an actual role , at least until Plumlee comes back. Roll Eyes

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Quote from: ChiBitCTy on December 12, 2023, 10:28:06 AM

Man, my Chicago Bulls played another tight game and almost knocked off the Milwaukee Bucks for the second time in a row. Had that happened, I guess I'd be a bit scared that something spooky is going on lol. That being said, only losing to the Bucks with Lavine out once again, pretty impressive in my opinion. They really seems to be on a roll right now that's completely unexpected, I plan to bet that hot hand in the coming days.

I don't know mate, but I'm reading a lot of news lately about the Zach Lavine trade? Maybe this could be one reason why the Bulls is crumbling and losing in close games? This could case issues in the locker room and might affect how they play, just saying.

Quote from: OgNasty on December 12, 2023, 12:19:38 PM

Some good matchups today and they’re being televised on TNT. First you have the Los Angeles Lakers and Dallas Mavericks which is almost certain to be worth the watch as LeBron James and Luka Doncic facing off never disappoints. Then you have the Suns and Warriors which have their own set of superstars facing off.

According to this tweet,

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Luka Doncic is questionable to play tonight against the Lakers with a lower back contusion. He mentioned being bothered by it after the Mavs' win against the Grizzlies last night.

https://twitter.com/GrantAfseth/status/1734644974044496087

So Luka will be listed as questionable against the Lakers and so is Kyrie Irving. And then we will see if there will be late news about the Lakers superstar as well, whether they will play or not.

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Some good matchups today and they’re being televised on TNT. First you have the Los Angeles Lakers and Dallas Mavericks which is almost certain to be worth the watch as LeBron James and Luka Doncic facing off never disappoints. Then you have the Suns and Warriors which have their own set of superstars facing off.

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Man, my Chicago Bulls played another tight game and almost knocked off the Milwaukee Bucks for the second time in a row. Had that happened, I guess I'd be a bit scared that something spooky is going on lol. That being said, only losing to the Bucks with Lavine out once again, pretty impressive in my opinion. They really seems to be on a roll right now that's completely unexpected, I plan to bet that hot hand in the coming days.

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Quote from: ultrloa on December 12, 2023, 08:53:18 AM

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Unlike any other position, Centers like him need to have more conditioning and just need to focus on improving himself rather than chasing the title because obviously, he is not like Lebron in his rookie year because he can take the risk without putting his physical health on the table. Unlike Wemby, he doesn't have that option, he needs to take it slowly but surely to scope and absorb all of that experience to be a dominating player by the next years of his NBA era.

Wemby has the talent of an ideal big man, could shot outside and has a good range in mid range. However, there's one thing that he need to develop, and that is his physique. I mean we can understand that since he is still young, but since he's in the NBA now (his ultimate dream), it should not be a problem from a team on transforming Wemby to be like a Giannis body. Let's just wait and see, maybe a season or two, we will see a more competitive Wemby.

Maybe he need to gain weight a little bit but not to much since if he let his weight became more bigger for sure he will be injury prone with that since 7'4 for sure he's body can't handle much more bigger weight and it can affect since performance since for sure with that he became more slower. What he need to develop is his confidence since he really need that plus a good teammates surround him so that he can get more better plays and make sure he also can get help if he need his teammates to perform well.

For now can't expect anything explosive to them also with young Spurs but if this team will get a lot of experience or get a some veterans to guide them maybe things will be change and they can get a lot of wins next season.

I think if he does put on weight it is definitely going to affect his performance. With Such a big figure, he is surely going to get injured if he puts on more weight. With such high jumps, he is definitely going to break some bones in his body. It will be better if he concentrates on his performance instead of his body weight right now. At least that's what I think.

About the Spurs, I also agree. I don't think it is going to be very wise to expect too much from them at this moment. Because it does not look like they will be capable of pulling off something like that at this moment.

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Quote from: LogitechMouse on December 12, 2023, 06:46:52 AM

I guess Coach Pop already said to Wemby that he must forget that ROTY title because winning a title for the team is way better than that title. TBH, I have trust in Coach Pop. I mean who doesn't? The coach has been in the league for decades, is the most winningest coach in NBA history, and trying to develop a generational player in Wembanyama.

Unlike any other position, Centers like him need to have more conditioning and just need to focus on improving himself rather than chasing the title because obviously, he is not like Lebron in his rookie year because he can take the risk without putting his physical health on the table. Unlike Wemby, he doesn't have that option, he needs to take it slowly but surely to scope and absorb all of that experience to be a dominating player by the next years of his NBA era.

Wemby has the talent of an ideal big man, could shot outside and has a good range in mid range. However, there's one thing that he need to develop, and that is his physique. I mean we can understand that since he is still young, but since he's in the NBA now (his ultimate dream), it should not be a problem from a team on transforming Wemby to be like a Giannis body. Let's just wait and see, maybe a season or two, we will see a more competitive Wemby.

Maybe he need to gain weight a little bit but not to much since if he let his weight became more bigger for sure he will be injury prone with that since 7'4 for sure he's body can't handle much more bigger weight and it can affect since performance since for sure with that he became more slower. What he need to develop is his confidence since he really need that plus a good teammates surround him so that he can get more better plays and make sure he also can get help if he need his teammates to perform well.

For now can't expect anything explosive to them also with young Spurs but if this team will get a lot of experience or get a some veterans to guide them maybe things will be change and they can get a lot of wins next season.

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Quote from: yazher on December 12, 2023, 08:27:45 AM

Quote from: LogitechMouse on December 12, 2023, 06:46:52 AM

I guess Coach Pop already said to Wemby that he must forget that ROTY title because winning a title for the team is way better than that title. TBH, I have trust in Coach Pop. I mean who doesn't? The coach has been in the league for decades, is the most winningest coach in NBA history, and trying to develop a generational player in Wembanyama.

Unlike any other position, Centers like him need to have more conditioning and just need to focus on improving himself rather than chasing the title because obviously, he is not like Lebron in his rookie year because he can take the risk without putting his physical health on the table. Unlike Wemby, he doesn't have that option, he needs to take it slowly but surely to scope and absorb all of that experience to be a dominating player by the next years of his NBA era.

Wemby has the talent of an ideal big man, could shot outside and has a good range in mid range. However, there's one thing that he need to develop, and that is his physique. I mean we can understand that since he is still young, but since he's in the NBA now (his ultimate dream), it should not be a problem from a team on transforming Wemby to be like a Giannis body. Let's just wait and see, maybe a season or two, we will see a more competitive Wemby.

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Quote from: boltz on December 12, 2023, 06:56:30 AM

How can Detroit cover in points most of their games ( especially when they play home ) but they are not capable of winning one game! We are talking about just winning one game and I'm sure the fan base will be pleased but it looks like they don't care and they really don't try to win games.

The Pistons already have two wins this regular season. Isn't that enough for the fans? Grin

Well, seriously, I don't think the Pistons have a lot of fans at this point because it's been years since the Pistons' performance was delightful to watch. To me, that was when they had Billups, Hamilton, Prince, Big Ben, and R. Wallace in the starting lineup. Now, I wouldn't be surprised if their attendance is at the lowest level compared to other teams. And I don't think anything will change for the Pistons in the next few seasons.

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Quote from: LogitechMouse on December 12, 2023, 06:46:52 AM

I guess Coach Pop already said to Wemby that he must forget that ROTY title because winning a title for the team is way better than that title. TBH, I have trust in Coach Pop. I mean who doesn't? The coach has been in the league for decades, is the most winningest coach in NBA history, and trying to develop a generational player in Wembanyama.

Unlike any other position, Centers like him need to have more conditioning and just need to focus on improving himself rather than chasing the title because obviously, he is not like Lebron in his rookie year because he can take the risk without putting his physical health on the table. Unlike Wemby, he doesn't have that option, he needs to take it slowly but surely to scope and absorb all of that experience to be a dominating player by the next years of his NBA era.

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Quote from: freedomgo on December 12, 2023, 07:37:31 AM

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Quote from: LogitechMouse on December 12, 2023, 06:46:52 AM

I guess Coach Pop already said to Wemby that he must forget that ROTY title because winning a title for the team is way better than that title. TBH, I have trust in Coach Pop. I mean who doesn't? The coach has been in the league for decades, is the most winningest coach in NBA history, and trying to develop a generational player in Wembanyama.

On the other hand, Chet will get that ROTY no doubt. The question right now for the whole Thunder team is can they play the same when they clinch the playoffs? Might be too early though.

You can't say thay to your player if Coach Pop really said that since it can lower down the motivation of his hype player to do more better job. But if this is true then maybe he just said that its because he already know that Wemby is already behind with Chet which is doing so good this season. Just to bad he cannot get enough help that's why provably he will just miss that ROTY award.

Chet is now the favorite player pointed out to win the ROTY due to his performance and contribution to his team and if he consistently doing some nice thing and OKC always win then no doubt that he successfully acquired that thropy.

Winning the title isn't on the discussion yet if it's the Spurs. They are a rebuilding team so they should focus first on improving, maybe the main goal for now is getting into the playoffs, and with their record now, it's safe to say that this season they'll fail.

Of course, as this point, the Spurs has still a lot of improvement to do even if they have still coach Pop and the supposedly best rookie for this draft class. There are of hype on Wemby for this year and I will say so far he is living up to the expectations, however, his team is suffering.

Quote from: freedomgo on December 12, 2023, 07:37:31 AM

On the discussion whether Wemby will win a ROY, it's unlikely now but since it's still early ,there's still time to recover for him to improve his individual performance. Afterall, ROY criteria does not significantly involve the team's performance, so he still has a shot.

Still a individual award but still though, if you are in a good team then most likely Wemby has a better chance as they might go into the playoffs and Wemby's Spurs is not. So in any case, for me, I will vote for the ROY that will have a individual and better team's performance. And with the way we see things, it's clear that Chet could be the ROY, but as you have said, it's a long way to go and it's too early to call.

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