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October 06, 2023, 10:06:50 PM
The rumors about Clippers and Harden is just rumors at this point. There isn't any official statement regarding the situation from anyone, so we can't really get any valid news, nothing we can provide proof for. So we need to wait until something concrete happens, either the trade may happen, or maybe it is all just a rumor and not real.
True, but if you are a fan of basketball then you have some speculations in your mind as to what might happen for James Harden in the future. He shows interest again with the 76ers at the start of the training camp, and so we can move forward from there. Whether he will stay with the 76ers for this season and forget what he has said and remain professional. Or continue to create drama for him and the 76ers which is again on the familiar territory just like what Ben Simmons case years ago.

I think it should be important to note that we are not going to end up with anything that would benefit anyone neither, I just think that Harden to Clippers would be hard and Clippers may want him for the time being but the longer it takes the more they may reconsider their options. They already have a decent team, and getting someone that constantly had issues so far doesn't feel all that well.
See, you have your own speculation already. Definitely it should be mutual though, Clippers getting Harden but they will have to exchange some of their young players and then added future picks to lure the 76ers to give a go signal for a trade. Or Clippers standing their ground, not going to give that much to 76ers so the 76ers will have to accept it or not.
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October 06, 2023, 05:04:10 PM
The rumors about Clippers and Harden is just rumors at this point. There isn't any official statement regarding the situation from anyone, so we can't really get any valid news, nothing we can provide proof for. So we need to wait until something concrete happens, either the trade may happen, or maybe it is all just a rumor and not real.

I think it should be important to note that we are not going to end up with anything that would benefit anyone neither, I just think that Harden to Clippers would be hard and Clippers may want him for the time being but the longer it takes the more they may reconsider their options. They already have a decent team, and getting someone that constantly had issues so far doesn't feel all that well.
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October 06, 2023, 02:48:19 PM
It looks like the Philadelphia 76ers have finally caved to Harden’s pressure and will be shipping him to the Clippers. The Clippers are said to be doing everything in their power to make it happen. After all the offseason drama it seems like Harden is going to end up getting what he wants, while Dame didn’t get the trade he wanted, but might get himself a ring.
I'm getting a bit skeptical about what I read online these days. Just two days ago, NBC News posted an article saying the Clippers aren't really focused on Harden and aren't making a good enough offer for the trade.

Do you have any up-to-date news to share? It seems like you were pretty confident that Harden was headed to the Clippers.

https://www.nbcsports.com/nba/news/clippers-not-focused-on-harden-also-not-offering-enough-to-get-trade-done

Harden already joined the training camp of the 76ers so he is expected to play.  I don't know what's in the head of the Clippers' management right now. It has 2 unhealthy star players. They're wasting many seasons expecting Kawhi to be fully healthy for a whole season or playoffs period but it never happened. So it would be hard to imagine the management of the Clippers to make a full swing taking Harden while giving up a lot of future draft picks. Kawhi and even PG13 if being traded aren't that good in the market either so the Clippers may not want to sacrifice their future first-round picks.

But in order for Harden and the 76ers to have peace before the start of this season, it would be nice to do a trade with or without the Clippers.
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October 06, 2023, 12:09:23 PM
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Obviously, with James Harden also being a superstar, this should result in an improvement in the team's performance. If they continue to struggle after acquiring James Harden, I believe the problem runs deeper, and it might be time for the Clippers to consider a coaching change.
PG - Westbrook
SG - Harden
SF - Leonard
PF - George

Looks good on paper doesn't it? I wonder who is going to take the ball most of the time. The coach will have to force someone to adjust and limit his role so these players won't clash. That player will probably end up unhappy and that will also affect the team. I think the three are already good at sharing the ball but adding Harden into the mix will disrupt that.

If one or two of them suffers serious or season ending injuries again then this trade could be worth it.

It could be that either Westbrook or Harden will carry the ball if they play both at the same time. They play both with they are in Houston so there will be no adjustments as well. But we all know this two is a ball hogger so the best thing is not to let them be in the same floor.

Hopefully I can also with that Leonard will remain healthy. He already commented about the new rule on sitting out players to rest. And he said that players should only sit when they are injured. So he is against load management, but if we will remember, he is one of the first or at least in Clippers who uses this rest as a precautionary measures to avoid getting injured. And that's why I said that at least being healthy this season, we can see if he is going to continue and play hard every night to be able to get that win or take a rest and that will contradict what he says.
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October 06, 2023, 12:07:13 PM
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Obviously, with James Harden also being a superstar, this should result in an improvement in the team's performance. If they continue to struggle after acquiring James Harden, I believe the problem runs deeper, and it might be time for the Clippers to consider a coaching change.
PG - Westbrook
SG - Harden
SF - Leonard
PF - George

Looks good on paper doesn't it? I wonder who is going to take the ball most of the time. The coach will have to force someone to adjust and limit his role so these players won't clash. That player will probably end up unhappy and that will also affect the team. I think the three are already good at sharing the ball but adding Harden into the mix will disrupt that.

If one or two of them suffers serious or season ending injuries again then this trade could be worth it.

The guy with the most accurate shooting and a high percentage of scoring when holding the ball is crucial. Since Westbrook is the point guard, he should ideally have the ball, but his shooting percentage has significantly dropped. So, his primary role might be to distribute the ball. Harden and PG can shoot from the outside, and they should let Leonard penetrate inside with his accurate mid-range jump shots.

With the current lineup, they will be very unpredictable since all four are offensive threats. The key is to build chemistry, and I'm confident these players understand how to work together as they share the common goal of winning a championship. While a Big 3 is often seen as the foundation of a superteam, having this Big 4 now likely gives them an even better chance of winning a championship.
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October 06, 2023, 11:54:05 AM
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Obviously, with James Harden also being a superstar, this should result in an improvement in the team's performance. If they continue to struggle after acquiring James Harden, I believe the problem runs deeper, and it might be time for the Clippers to consider a coaching change.
PG - Westbrook
SG - Harden
SF - Leonard
PF - George

Looks good on paper doesn't it? I wonder who is going to take the ball most of the time. The coach will have to force someone to adjust and limit his role so these players won't clash. That player will probably end up unhappy and that will also affect the team. I think the three are already good at sharing the ball but adding Harden into the mix will disrupt that.

If one or two of them suffers serious or season ending injuries again then this trade could be worth it.
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October 06, 2023, 11:34:07 AM
It looks like the Philadelphia 76ers have finally caved to Harden’s pressure and will be shipping him to the Clippers. The Clippers are said to be doing everything in their power to make it happen. After all the offseason drama it seems like Harden is going to end up getting what he wants, while Dame didn’t get the trade he wanted, but might get himself a ring.

The latest rumor I've seen is that the Clippers offered the 76ers an unprotected first-round pick and a swap pick. But the 76ers want more and seem to be interested in Terance Mann. So, I think if the Clippers offer Mann and at least one first-round draft pick, the 76ers will probably take it and send Harden to LA. It's time for this drama to end.

I'm not sure if 76ers is willing to give up TMann for James Harden, although they have Russ already that can play the point guard position for them.
Do you mean the Clippers are not willing to trade TMann for James Harden? I don't think it's impossible, considering that TMann may not be of the same quality as James Harden, who can create his own shots. While TMann might excel defensively, his overall statistics don't match those of a star player. With the Clippers acquiring James Harden, and hopefully, he'll prove to be valuable, their lineup becomes a super team, eliminating the need for further improvements, at least for now. They need to test it out first.

But TMann offer a different perspective as a ball handler and even can spread the defense if he hits those outside shots are compare to Russ who had a bad percentage shooting from the outside. So it will be a hard decision for the Clippers and if they are willing, then they could go and test 76ers but asking for more future draft picks since this is the what other teams have been doing in trading their big stars.

TMann is still young, and I'm sure the Clippers can acquire players like him in the future. For now, they need to prioritize building a championship team, and that will only happen if they're willing to make some sacrifices with their current players.
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October 06, 2023, 10:58:25 AM
It looks like the Philadelphia 76ers have finally caved to Harden’s pressure and will be shipping him to the Clippers. The Clippers are said to be doing everything in their power to make it happen. After all the offseason drama it seems like Harden is going to end up getting what he wants, while Dame didn’t get the trade he wanted, but might get himself a ring.

The latest rumor I've seen is that the Clippers offered the 76ers an unprotected first-round pick and a swap pick. But the 76ers want more and seem to be interested in Terance Mann. So, I think if the Clippers offer Mann and at least one first-round draft pick, the 76ers will probably take it and send Harden to LA. It's time for this drama to end.
I get it that they want as many key players available since PG and Kahwi are often injured but adding Harden would make the team out of balance. I cannot imagine these four guys all healthy and playing on the court at the same time. This doesn't look good on the Clipper side unless they can replace Mann but they probably know better so let's wait

Let them figure out what they will do later. Right now, they need to focus on improving their lineup. Obviously, with James Harden also being a superstar, this should result in an improvement in the team's performance. If they continue to struggle after acquiring James Harden, I believe the problem runs deeper, and it might be time for the Clippers to consider a coaching change.
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October 06, 2023, 10:46:29 AM
It looks like the Philadelphia 76ers have finally caved to Harden’s pressure and will be shipping him to the Clippers. The Clippers are said to be doing everything in their power to make it happen. After all the offseason drama it seems like Harden is going to end up getting what he wants, while Dame didn’t get the trade he wanted, but might get himself a ring.

The latest rumor I've seen is that the Clippers offered the 76ers an unprotected first-round pick and a swap pick. But the 76ers want more and seem to be interested in Terance Mann. So, I think if the Clippers offer Mann and at least one first-round draft pick, the 76ers will probably take it and send Harden to LA. It's time for this drama to end.
I get it that they want as many key players available since PG and Kahwi are often injured but adding Harden would make the team out of balance. I cannot imagine these four guys all healthy and playing on the court at the same time. This doesn't look good on the Clipper side unless they can replace Mann but they probably know better so let's wait
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October 06, 2023, 09:08:42 AM
So maybe just the rest of the NBA, after their dismal performance in FIBA's competition recently in Manila, high caliber athletes are eager to don the US Jersey this coming Olympics and represent Team USA and extract their revenge and win the Gold medal to show US supremacy again in basketball. But I guess the game really evolved as there are a lot of non-American in the NBA right now. So they need to bring in their best player and it might include Joel.
AFAIK, Lebron James, Kevin Durant and Steph Curry have already expressed that they are committed in playing for the US' national team on Olympics. Now this gets more serious. While Joel Embiid is being asked by three national teams.

But if I am him, this is a tough thing. He'll be the hero on Cameroon even if they're not going to get into Olympics and fall with the qualifiers.

And if he wants likely high chance of winning the Olympics, he'll choose to go along with the team USA. He's got a few days left for the deadline of his decision.
The only question is that, are they healthy at that time?
I'm not pessimistic per se, but we know that these NBA players can sustain injuries that might be the reason they can't play at certain tournaments like the Olympics.

Seeing them committing is good because they are seeing other countries coping up, and can match with them already, but the question is, are they releasing statements like this because they want to scare other countries? Well, I guess they want to get back on top again thus they are doing this. It's a shame on their part if they can't win a gold medal knowing that they've been the powerhouse country globally in basketball.

It seems like this consecutive times where they aren't winning a gold medal is a wake-up call for them. I guess I just hope that they can build a team that can be called "Dream Team V2.0". Cheesy
I don't think that they're just telling it to scare other teams. That won't work to other strong teams that are qualified in the Olympics.

Scare doesn't have a place there honestly. And if they won't win a gold, it's not a shame to them although they've been always the favorite to take the gold medal.

But in the past, there have been teams that defeated them and stolen the gold medal from them.
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October 06, 2023, 07:45:27 AM
It looks like the Philadelphia 76ers have finally caved to Harden’s pressure and will be shipping him to the Clippers. The Clippers are said to be doing everything in their power to make it happen. After all the offseason drama it seems like Harden is going to end up getting what he wants, while Dame didn’t get the trade he wanted, but might get himself a ring.

The latest rumor I've seen is that the Clippers offered the 76ers an unprotected first-round pick and a swap pick. But the 76ers want more and seem to be interested in Terance Mann. So, I think if the Clippers offer Mann and at least one first-round draft pick, the 76ers will probably take it and send Harden to LA. It's time for this drama to end.

I'm afraid this drama won't end this season, because all the pressure is with the Sixers right now, the Clippers can simply decline what the Sixers are demanding. So it's either they will accept what the Clippers offered or keep Harden until mid season and try another deal.
The Heat has been reportedly not interested in a James Harden trade either. They were only interested with Dame.
I don't know which other team is interested in a trade to acquire James Harden, I can't take of any except the Heat and the Clippers, but then again the Heat is out of the picture already.
There could be other teams that might interested on James Harden, but he could be used as a trade bait as well. So this could really create a lot of messed in the NBA, so we will see who's team are going to make a move or maybe the Clippers will have to add another players in the trade that will make it more interesting to go and give the signal for a trade. But the question is, if the Clippers is willing to include not just Mann in the trade, but other members as well and then their future draft picks. That's already huge and attractive package already and for sure the Sixers might bite on that one.

Same opinion here, if Sixers will ask for more aside from Mann and a future pick, I think Clippers will not bite that unless they are willing
to risk their future.

Having all veteran stars seems a duplicate setup with Lakers way back when they've got Melo, Russ and Howard, something that
will not really go to help PG and Kawhi in my opinion.

But, we never know what fate will be for Harden, if Clippers or another team who's willing to acquire him will manifest.
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October 06, 2023, 07:21:47 AM
Bias announcer at its finest, but for sure a game in Abu Dhabi is a stepping stone for the NBA to get the game in another country for sure, let's say the Philippines perhaps,
That would be fun. I missed the opportunity to see Luka Doncic during the FIBA games because I was so busy with something but if ever the NBA will create an event for them to play here I will definitely try to attend that just to see him.  Grin

Seth Curry isn't just an addition to their defensive prowess but to their offensive as well in the roster of the Dallas Mavericks sure the real strength for both teams in this game is not shown yet but it is a treat for sure when the Abu Dhabi fans see the game it was a great thing for them,
Seth had been jumping from one team to another and it's not a good thing, I hope he finds his home here in Dallas Mavericks and Owner Mark Cuban would not let him go. $4 million ain't that big for a guy who could still contribute to the team.

I just recently watched the highlight dunks of Andrew Wiggins during his Golden State Warriors stint.
One of the guys that is not being discussed much here in the thread.
I think he will be the wild card of this season and will become the new threat when any team faces the Golden State Warriors. Last year he averaged 32 minutes and 17 points per game. Do remember he only played 37 games in the season due to personal matters that he didn't discuss with the media but now he might play the whole season except for injuries. Despite that, the Warriors still entered the playoffs without him.
They are actually packed with defensive players too. GP2, Draymond, and Wiggins. It's going to be an exciting year for the Warriors fans.
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October 06, 2023, 06:58:03 AM
It looks like the Philadelphia 76ers have finally caved to Harden’s pressure and will be shipping him to the Clippers. The Clippers are said to be doing everything in their power to make it happen. After all the offseason drama it seems like Harden is going to end up getting what he wants, while Dame didn’t get the trade he wanted, but might get himself a ring.

The latest rumor I've seen is that the Clippers offered the 76ers an unprotected first-round pick and a swap pick. But the 76ers want more and seem to be interested in Terance Mann. So, I think if the Clippers offer Mann and at least one first-round draft pick, the 76ers will probably take it and send Harden to LA. It's time for this drama to end.

I'm afraid this drama won't end this season, because all the pressure is with the Sixers right now, the Clippers can simply decline what the Sixers are demanding. So it's either they will accept what the Clippers offered or keep Harden until mid season and try another deal.
The Heat has been reportedly not interested in a James Harden trade either. They were only interested with Dame.
I don't know which other team is interested in a trade to acquire James Harden, I can't take of any except the Heat and the Clippers, but then again the Heat is out of the picture already.
There could be other teams that might interested on James Harden, but he could be used as a trade bait as well. So this could really create a lot of messed in the NBA, so we will see who's team are going to make a move or maybe the Clippers will have to add another players in the trade that will make it more interesting to go and give the signal for a trade. But the question is, if the Clippers is willing to include not just Mann in the trade, but other members as well and then their future draft picks. That's already huge and attractive package already and for sure the Sixers might bite on that one.
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October 06, 2023, 05:52:30 AM
I really do not have any idea how people are making weird things look cool or acceptable. Some things are just not acceptable across the board. Just like a white person saying the N word is not going to be accepted around the world anywhere, some fashions are just not acceptable by people in the whole world. If a man wears a dress, and says he's a woman, it is not going to be acceptable in any logic based society.

I feel like I am going off track. Anyway, this was definitely weird to see. But as you said, this might actually be something which players do to Collab with some fashion brands and also increase the popularity of both the brand and themselves. But they definitely end up doing some stupid things like this.

It was off track if you're talking about Jimmy Butler for sure it was not Butler, but you got a point on those words I feel it is not suitable for Jimmy Butler and for Butler, I really feel that he has some mental issue involving here, some deep emotional maybe a mental block if you will hear what he was saying he said that his emotion reflect what he looks like right now for sure he wants us to clearly see the way he looks right now for me got "Emotional damage"



I do not understand how these people actually promote emotionality for men. Especially when they themselves know that emotional men are dangerous. True men can actually control their emotions. Those men who cannot control their emotions end up looking like shit. Basically looking like him. I feel like people should understand what will look good on them and what will not. Instead of just trusting the "designer" and trusting whatever they say. It is very easy to say that he does not look good at all.
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October 06, 2023, 04:09:38 AM
It looks like the Philadelphia 76ers have finally caved to Harden’s pressure and will be shipping him to the Clippers. The Clippers are said to be doing everything in their power to make it happen. After all the offseason drama it seems like Harden is going to end up getting what he wants, while Dame didn’t get the trade he wanted, but might get himself a ring.

The latest rumor I've seen is that the Clippers offered the 76ers an unprotected first-round pick and a swap pick. But the 76ers want more and seem to be interested in Terance Mann. So, I think if the Clippers offer Mann and at least one first-round draft pick, the 76ers will probably take it and send Harden to LA. It's time for this drama to end.

I'm not sure if 76ers is willing to give up TMann for James Harden, although they have Russ already that can play the point guard position for them. But TMann offer a different perspective as a ball handler and even can spread the defense if he hits those outside shots are compare to Russ who had a bad percentage shooting from the outside. So it will be a hard decision for the Clippers and if they are willing, then they could go and test 76ers but asking for more future draft picks since this is the what other teams have been doing in trading their big stars.
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October 06, 2023, 03:55:57 AM
It looks like the Philadelphia 76ers have finally caved to Harden’s pressure and will be shipping him to the Clippers. The Clippers are said to be doing everything in their power to make it happen. After all the offseason drama it seems like Harden is going to end up getting what he wants, while Dame didn’t get the trade he wanted, but might get himself a ring.

The latest rumor I've seen is that the Clippers offered the 76ers an unprotected first-round pick and a swap pick. But the 76ers want more and seem to be interested in Terance Mann. So, I think if the Clippers offer Mann and at least one first-round draft pick, the 76ers will probably take it and send Harden to LA. It's time for this drama to end.

I'm afraid this drama won't end this season, because all the pressure is with the Sixers right now, the Clippers can simply decline what the Sixers are demanding. So it's either they will accept what the Clippers offered or keep Harden until mid season and try another deal.
The Heat has been reportedly not interested in a James Harden trade either. They were only interested with Dame.
I don't know which other team is interested in a trade to acquire James Harden, I can't take of any except the Heat and the Clippers, but then again the Heat is out of the picture already.
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October 06, 2023, 03:51:31 AM
So maybe just the rest of the NBA, after their dismal performance in FIBA's competition recently in Manila, high caliber athletes are eager to don the US Jersey this coming Olympics and represent Team USA and extract their revenge and win the Gold medal to show US supremacy again in basketball.

Nah there's no such thing as revenge. The Olympics is just more heavy than the FIBA World Cup for these NBA superstars.

The fact that Team USA didn't bring any top superstars to the recent FIBA World Cup just shows that they consider FIBA as a practice stage for their youngsters to compete in global competition. Even if they won the Gold on the recent FIBA, their overall lineup in the Olympics will still be purely top NBA superstars and not those roster they have sent in FIBA.

FIBA happens every year. Olympics is every 2 or 4 years? That's how the special Olympics is.

For sure the Caliber and level of competition in the Olympics are different than with the FIBA and the NBA officials to consider not bringing their NBA players to FIBA but instead, they will take a step further in securing a spot with the Olympics than with FIBA, well considering the competition with FIBA if they are not targeting the championship and just targeting the improvement of their young star then it is OK,

So that Abu Dhabi game is like the Dallas Mavericks homecourt with the announcer so happy whenever a Mavs shoots the ball.  Cheesy

I like the roster of the Mavericks this season, most players are good at the defensive end. Seth Curry, Grant Williams, Josh Green, Exum, Morris, and Jaden Hardy, they actually strengthem their backcourt defense and I think most of the time they will be playing fast small ball plays with either Kyrie or Luka leading the way. I think Coach Jason Kidd should take advantage of this, he has good roleplayers there and he doesn't want to just bench them because they are reliable on both ends of the floor. Player rotation will be a key factor for the Mavs to win more games this season.

But for teams like the Timberwolves or Nuggets who are relying on big men, it will be a problem for them. But I do love their roster now, in my opinion, it's a decent one that could be a playoff contender or better.

Bias announcer at its finest, but for sure a game in Abu Dhabi is a stepping stone for the NBA to get the game in another country for sure, let's say the Philippines perhaps,

Seth Curry isn't just an addition to their defensive prowess but to their offensive as well in the roster of the Dallas Mavericks sure the real strength for both teams in this game is not shown yet but it is a treat for sure when the Abu Dhabi fans see the game it was a great thing for them,

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October 06, 2023, 03:05:23 AM
It looks like the Philadelphia 76ers have finally caved to Harden’s pressure and will be shipping him to the Clippers. The Clippers are said to be doing everything in their power to make it happen. After all the offseason drama it seems like Harden is going to end up getting what he wants, while Dame didn’t get the trade he wanted, but might get himself a ring.

The latest rumor I've seen is that the Clippers offered the 76ers an unprotected first-round pick and a swap pick. But the 76ers want more and seem to be interested in Terance Mann. So, I think if the Clippers offer Mann and at least one first-round draft pick, the 76ers will probably take it and send Harden to LA. It's time for this drama to end.
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October 05, 2023, 11:47:12 PM
It looks like the Philadelphia 76ers have finally caved to Harden’s pressure and will be shipping him to the Clippers. The Clippers are said to be doing everything in their power to make it happen. After all the offseason drama it seems like Harden is going to end up getting what he wants, while Dame didn’t get the trade he wanted, but might get himself a ring.
I'm getting a bit skeptical about what I read online these days. Just two days ago, NBC News posted an article saying the Clippers aren't really focused on Harden and aren't making a good enough offer for the trade.

Do you have any up-to-date news to share? It seems like you were pretty confident that Harden was headed to the Clippers.

https://www.nbcsports.com/nba/news/clippers-not-focused-on-harden-also-not-offering-enough-to-get-trade-done
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October 05, 2023, 09:42:30 PM
It looks like the Philadelphia 76ers have finally caved to Harden’s pressure and will be shipping him to the Clippers. The Clippers are said to be doing everything in their power to make it happen. After all the offseason drama it seems like Harden is going to end up getting what he wants, while Dame didn’t get the trade he wanted, but might get himself a ring.
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