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This defeat against Thunder was the umpteenth time because previously they also lost against Thunder.
At the start of the match the Warriors seemed to be playing well and even had 14 point lead but as the match progressed the situation was reversed by the Thunder who started to recover and were able to score more points.
But this defeat seems much better than before because they only lost by aexperienci very small margin of 2 points and for some reason this season the Warriors are really experiencing bad phase because they are losing more often.
We can see in the table the Warriors match history that they always lose more often.
If conditions like this continue for long time without any improvements and changes, we can be sure that they will have difficulty occupying one of the top ranks in the Western region standings.

Yes, in terms of turnovers the Warriors committed 29 turnovers, which is the highest record this season.

It was a winnable game by the Warriors but I don't understand why Green fouled the game who gave them a heartache on their previous match up. Chet was really a cold blooded shooter, may it be in the 3 point area or in the FT line, he was sinking those 3 shots like there was no pressure at all, I guess he really deserve to win the ROY.

While Chet is enjoying his popularity now, unfortunately, Wemby and his Spurs continues their losing streak.

The Warriors should have had big chance to win and when I saw they had the advantage I cheered because the Warriors were finally able to avenge their defeat in the previous meeting, but apparently they failed and all the advantages were reversed by the Thunder.
I also don't know why Green did all that but there must be certain purpose to what he did, it just that it is very unacceptable.

Chet Holmgren in this match did appear very impressive and he managed to provide 21 points for the Thunder victory over the Warriors, but to say that he deserved ROY is premature assumption.
It just that in the Thunder previous match Chet couldn't perform as well as against the Warriors, but at that time the Thunder lost to the Houston Rockets and Chet was only able to score 4 points.

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Quote from: Captain Corporate on December 10, 2023, 02:48:14 AM

The great question about this win is this; do we think Lakers are good enough to try for the finals for real? Or did nobody cared about the title here? That is a very important question, Lakers looked like a great team when they won this in season tournament, but will they be able to go for it at the end of the season as well? I am not saying will they win, of course they may not, a team that is great right now may have many issues by the end, like injuries and fatigue, all I am asking are they contenders in your eye? Are they one of the teams that may win the title? To me, they are definitely good enough to have a chance, maybe not that easily but they do have a chance in my book but many do not think so.

For sure in the beginning, no one cares for this title, but when we see the final four teams, something shape up to this team, as we all know that they are all competitive. So firsts, yeah, they care about being the inaugural champion and then Lebron winning his MVP. So I guess this might boost the motivation of the Lakers team to go all the way this year and win the NBA championship and they could set a record for that.

But we all know that in order to win the championship, they will have to go to a grueling playoff series not just one game elimination. And as you have said, factors like fatigue and injuries play a very important role as well. So we shall see long far this Lakers can go without breaking apart.

they will surely aim for the title as much as they can. fatigue and other mishaps will always be a part of the game, now, as the season ends, it will be a battle of endurance between the teams. sometimes it is not anymore about who plays great here.
celtics and timberwolves are leading in eastern and western conferences, respectively. lakers is still in their 5th spot. but it is too early to tell which teams will face on the finals.

Too early and if I get it right there are also possible trades that may take place so we can't tell whether both teams who are on top right
now can secure that slot.

There are changes that may take place when the season is nearing all the teams that have their respective stars will really try pushing things forward.

We all know that it's still a long way for all the teams, they are still capable to bounce back and have their chance
to move up and be at the playoffs.

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Quote from: LogitechMouse on December 10, 2023, 08:44:35 PM

I'm not updating myself with regards to the in-season tournament, but can somebody tell here what will be the advantage of the Lakers now that they won the in-season tournament? I mean are there any benefits that they will be getting as the regular season progresses? Thank you very much

I think that was just to add more excitement but there was no advantage given by the NBA aside from the Lakers earn more confidence going forward, Also, the price isn't that huge compared to the contacts.

here's the information.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/antoniopequenoiv/2023/12/09/nba-in-season-tournament-championship-tips-off-tonight-heres-what-to-know-about-the-new-competition/?sh=7c499b5b66a3

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How much does NBA In-Season Tournament pay?
Players and coaches on the team that wins the NBA Cup will get $500,000—while runners-up will make $200,000, semifinalists received $100,000 and quarterfinalists $50,000, according to ESPN. Assistant coaches will share a separate pool of money that will be worth 75% of the winning coach's total, ESPN reported

And for more details, you can read the FAQ
https://www.nba.com/news/in-season-tournament-frequently-asked-questions

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Quote from: EFS on December 10, 2023, 05:30:52 PM

Congrats to Lakers. LeBron is fantastic at this age, great stats. He's older than some coaches and almost at the same age as others. It's hard to play high level at that age in any sports, not just basketball, and he's still making near career average stats. Anthony Davis was insane last night, 41-20-5 in a final like that? That's insane performance. Lakers well deserved this first trophy. I wonder what will they change in the in-season tournament for next season though.

I don't know TBH how Le-GM keeps his body like that. His work style maybe? His way of working on his body might affect it, but his performance in the last 2 to 3 games is just like we are watching a 20+-year-old player who is dominating the league still. He deserves that MVP trophy for sure.

As for AD, anybody who saw his grunting face that was caught on camera? That only shows that he's on fire with that game, and nobody on the Pacers can stop him. Turner can't just stop him, and that's the Davis that we want to see all year round. I've been quite impressed with him over the past months. He's barely getting injured, and if he gets injured, he will miss out only a couple of games then he's good to go. He wasn't like he was a few years ago where he will sit months because of his injury.

I'm not updating myself with regards to the in-season tournament, but can somebody tell here what will be the advantage of the Lakers now that they won the in-season tournament? I mean are there any benefits that they will be getting as the regular season progresses? Thank you very much

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Quote from: EFS on December 10, 2023, 05:30:52 PM

Congrats to Lakers. LeBron is fantastic at this age, great stats. He's older than some coaches and almost at the same age as others. It's hard to play high level at that age in any sports, not just basketball, and he's still making near career average stats. Anthony Davis was insane last night, 41-20-5 in a final like that? That's insane performance. Lakers well deserved this first trophy. I wonder what will they change in the in-season tournament for next season though.

I'm not sure if they need to change anything. The NBA got exactly what they wanted, front end of the season action. The best part for me was the last games of the round Robin when points mattered. Teams were up 20 in the fourth and kept theor starters in and were running up the scores. Hate when during a blowout they throw in their scrubs. Especially when you pay to go.

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Congrats to Lakers. LeBron is fantastic at this age, great stats. He's older than some coaches and almost at the same age as others. It's hard to play high level at that age in any sports, not just basketball, and he's still making near career average stats. Anthony Davis was insane last night, 41-20-5 in a final like that? That's insane performance. Lakers well deserved this first trophy. I wonder what will they change in the in-season tournament for next season though.

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Quote from: Jating on December 10, 2023, 03:43:54 PM

Quote from: Captain Corporate on December 10, 2023, 02:48:14 AM

The great question about this win is this; do we think Lakers are good enough to try for the finals for real? Or did nobody cared about the title here? That is a very important question, Lakers looked like a great team when they won this in season tournament, but will they be able to go for it at the end of the season as well? I am not saying will they win, of course they may not, a team that is great right now may have many issues by the end, like injuries and fatigue, all I am asking are they contenders in your eye? Are they one of the teams that may win the title? To me, they are definitely good enough to have a chance, maybe not that easily but they do have a chance in my book but many do not think so.

For sure in the beginning, no one cares for this title, but when we see the final four teams, something shape up to this team, as we all know that they are all competitive. So firsts, yeah, they care about being the inaugural champion and then Lebron winning his MVP. So I guess this might boost the motivation of the Lakers team to go all the way this year and win the NBA championship and they could set a record for that.

But we all know that in order to win the championship, they will have to go to a grueling playoff series not just one game elimination. And as you have said, factors like fatigue and injuries play a very important role as well. So we shall see long far this Lakers can go without breaking apart.

they will surely aim for the title as much as they can. fatigue and other mishaps will always be a part of the game, now, as the season ends, it will be a battle of endurance between the teams. sometimes it is not anymore about who plays great here.
celtics and timberwolves are leading in eastern and western conferences, respectively. lakers is still in their 5th spot. but it is too early to tell which teams will face on the finals.

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Quote from: Captain Corporate on December 10, 2023, 02:48:14 AM

The great question about this win is this; do we think Lakers are good enough to try for the finals for real? Or did nobody cared about the title here? That is a very important question, Lakers looked like a great team when they won this in season tournament, but will they be able to go for it at the end of the season as well? I am not saying will they win, of course they may not, a team that is great right now may have many issues by the end, like injuries and fatigue, all I am asking are they contenders in your eye? Are they one of the teams that may win the title? To me, they are definitely good enough to have a chance, maybe not that easily but they do have a chance in my book but many do not think so.

For sure in the beginning, no one cares for this title, but when we see the final four teams, something shape up to this team, as we all know that they are all competitive. So firsts, yeah, they care about being the inaugural champion and then Lebron winning his MVP. So I guess this might boost the motivation of the Lakers team to go all the way this year and win the NBA championship and they could set a record for that.

But we all know that in order to win the championship, they will have to go to a grueling playoff series not just one game elimination. And as you have said, factors like fatigue and injuries play a very important role as well. So we shall see long far this Lakers can go without breaking apart.

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It is obvious that Lakers are decent enough that they won this one, so I think they should be decent enough to be "contenders", doesn't mean they may win but they are contenders.

The real one I believe could be the biggest is still Bucks and even after them showing nothing of that caliber so far, I think they are still great, Dame and Giannis together is a much better duo than both Jokic and Murray or Lebron and AD, because Dame and Giannis could do what they do with a lot better perfection and could become something much bigger. Their pick and roll feels quite unstoppable, how could you manage to prevent them from scoring? They both are great at what they do and even all by themselves on iso plays they are good enough.

Nah, the Lakers are no contenders.
I don't see them beating a team like the Nuggets, Mavs, CLippers or even OKC in 7 games. Sure they play well at home but that's it.

Winning this tournament means nothing. They won 3 elimination games in a best of 1 series, that's it.
Also you should't forget, LBJ or AD are still to get an injury this season, as they so often do the last years. Once this happens they will drop in the rankings as well. And if they don't have home court advantage in at least the 1st round they will bust out in that one.

I mean they are contenders so to speak but not a huge threat I agree with you. With lebron wanting the best of his legacy he needed to have this win. Now he can add Champs of first play in tournament. But yeah a 7 game series is way different than a couple single elimination games. As for the injuries agreed its way too early to know but I'm sure injuries will shape this season at some point.

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Quote from: FanEagle on December 10, 2023, 12:40:45 PM

It is obvious that Lakers are decent enough that they won this one, so I think they should be decent enough to be "contenders", doesn't mean they may win but they are contenders.

The real one I believe could be the biggest is still Bucks and even after them showing nothing of that caliber so far, I think they are still great, Dame and Giannis together is a much better duo than both Jokic and Murray or Lebron and AD, because Dame and Giannis could do what they do with a lot better perfection and could become something much bigger. Their pick and roll feels quite unstoppable, how could you manage to prevent them from scoring? They both are great at what they do and even all by themselves on iso plays they are good enough.

Nah, the Lakers are no contenders.
I don't see them beating a team like the Nuggets, Mavs, CLippers or even OKC in 7 games. Sure they play well at home but that's it.

Winning this tournament means nothing. They won 3 elimination games in a best of 1 series, that's it.
Also you should't forget, LBJ or AD are still to get an injury this season, as they so often do the last years. Once this happens they will drop in the rankings as well. And if they don't have home court advantage in at least the 1st round they will bust out in that one.

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It is obvious that Lakers are decent enough that they won this one, so I think they should be decent enough to be "contenders", doesn't mean they may win but they are contenders.

The real one I believe could be the biggest is still Bucks and even after them showing nothing of that caliber so far, I think they are still great, Dame and Giannis together is a much better duo than both Jokic and Murray or Lebron and AD, because Dame and Giannis could do what they do with a lot better perfection and could become something much bigger. Their pick and roll feels quite unstoppable, how could you manage to prevent them from scoring? They both are great at what they do and even all by themselves on iso plays they are good enough.

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Quote from: Captain Corporate on December 10, 2023, 02:48:14 AM

The great question about this win is this; do we think Lakers are good enough to try for the finals for real? Or did nobody cared about the title here? That is a very important question, Lakers looked like a great team when they won this in season tournament, but will they be able to go for it at the end of the season as well? I am not saying will they win, of course they may not, a team that is great right now may have many issues by the end, like injuries and fatigue, all I am asking are they contenders in your eye? Are they one of the teams that may win the title? To me, they are definitely good enough to have a chance, maybe not that easily but they do have a chance in my book but many do not think so.

That is a good point. I also think they have a chance but not so high. That being said, Lebron is playing better than he has in 5-6 years. Davis is a huge force under the basket. Reaves is back to last year's playoff form. That's all well and good, but the Lakers have developed an unbelievable wing defence since all the injured players have returned. Reddish/Vanderbilt/Prince/Rui are making the opposing wings devastated. But the key point about Lakers is how long they can stay healthy. If they stay healthy and continue this good performance, we might see them in conference finals perhaps.

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Quote from: boltz on December 10, 2023, 07:15:43 AM

Big congrats to Lakers for becoming NBA in season champs but also big congrats for LeBron and his MVP win award who is well deserved in my opinion even if AD really played great during this tournament. Now , the job is done , they can actually focus on NBA games and maybe it's time to deliver a winning streak. Cool

Congrats to the Lakers, that was a heck of a journey for them to become this in season tournament's champ. I still give credit to the Pacers for reaching this far. I think that this is the first time again for me to seen them reach this quite far. Honestly, they've got a good run and Lebron being the MVP on this in season is still showing on how this "old" man can do.

Lebron is always Lebron, age is just a number for him and a whopping $500k for his pay check. Wow! Is this also a hint that the rumored additional team could be the Las Vegas? Hmmm, I've just heard of the rumor about that and instead of Seattle Sonics, it's going to be Las Vegas - what?

Another player that's good on this game is Austin Reaves. The kid after coming from the bench was on fire. It's like that he doesn't want to go back to the bench so he did all his best. Well, if most of the bench players are going to be like him, they won't get that much rest. LOL.

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It has been kind of crazy seeing the Chicago Bulls payout so well without Zach Lavine. For whatever reason their chemistry just seems to be so much better with him not out there on the floor. I’m not really sure what it is, or if it’s really more so just a coincidence..but it leads me to believe they’ll be pushing it trade Lavine harder than ever. Who’s getting him!?

Maybe the Heat? They wanted to get another superstar to help Jimmy on their campaign and I think Lavine would be best suitable for them. The players that could have been traded if the Lillard trade push through, they're also the ones that will be sent for Lavine.

Did the Lakers show interest to Lavine? I saw a news t hat Lakers are looking to trade Hachimura and DLo for Lavine and I think it's only fair for Lakers to let go of DLo since they got Austin Reaves. For the Heat, I think it is best for them to move Bam into a PF and look for a bigger center. We saw how they played with Denver last NBA finals and we know the answer why the Denver give them a blow, it is because of Jokic can just pump and bump Bam inside. Get themselves with body built like Nurkic or Valenciunas.

Quote from: Botnake on December 09, 2023, 09:29:55 PM

There's no reason keeping Lavine if he's not happy with the team, and as you have notice, the team played better without him, we know the answer to this.

It's not about the player actually, he signed a contract which technically says "Play the best you can", as long as he is with the Chicago bulls he should be doing his thing, well his teammate might be a considerable factor to be happy with but he should adjust until his contract expires.

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Quote from: boltz on December 10, 2023, 07:15:43 AM

Big congrats to Lakers for becoming NBA in season champs but also big congrats for LeBron and his MVP win award who is well deserved in my opinion even if AD really played great during this tournament. Now , the job is done , they can actually focus on NBA games and maybe it's time to deliver a winning streak. Cool

And that's what I will be waiting for. Will the energy be the same when the goal is way far unlike the In-Season Tournament? I mean, the playoffs and the Finals of the regular season are happening next year. Will the intensity at every game be the same as how they played tonight?
The Indiana Pacers I have no doubt because they had been playing at that fast pace in every game and they will keep on climbing higher heights to prove that even at their young roster they will play like every game is important.
That's what I want to see with the Lakers team, they are in the 5th spot which is cool but one unhealthy star could ruin it all. I want to see their 2nd team stepping up their game like what Austin Reaves had been doing every game. That dude doesn't need a lot of minutes to have a big impact on their team.
He only averages 25 minutes but he is always double digits in points. He also showed tonight some amazing crossovers and a shocking shooting display.

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Quote from: Captain Corporate on December 10, 2023, 02:48:14 AM

The great question about this win is this; do we think Lakers are good enough to try for the finals for real? Or did nobody cared about the title here?

The fact that the Lakers are the in-season tournament champions means nothing in that regard. I mean, there's a lot of competition in the regular season, and now there are teams that have a better chance to be champions than the Lakers. Nevertheless, I don't rule out that the Lakers can go far in the playoffs if Davis and LeBron are healthy.

I’m a little surprised the Lakers won the tournament but they had a few factors going for them. First being that it was obvious LeBron wanted this more than anyone else and it showed with him getting the MVP. Secondly, they didn’t face any of the elite teams in the NBA. This is a good sign for them, but a playoff run will be much much harder.

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Quote from: Captain Corporate on December 10, 2023, 02:48:14 AM

The great question about this win is this; do we think Lakers are good enough to try for the finals for real? Or did nobody cared about the title here?

The fact that the Lakers are the in-season tournament champions means nothing in that regard. I mean, there's a lot of competition in the regular season, and now there are teams that have a better chance to be champions than the Lakers. Nevertheless, I don't rule out that the Lakers can go far in the playoffs if Davis and LeBron are healthy.

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Quote from: boltz on December 10, 2023, 07:15:43 AM

Big congrats to Lakers for becoming NBA in season champs but also big congrats for LeBron and his MVP win award who is well deserved in my opinion even if AD really played great during this tournament. Now , the job is done , they can actually focus on NBA games and maybe it's time to deliver a winning streak. Cool

Although I lost on that match since I bet on Pacers still happy to see the result. Seeing Lebron really perform well plus AD perform out of this world makes me forget my bet and cheer for Lakers Cheesy

. We really see how dominant they are and if this performance continue for sure Lakers will have a lot of potential to win a championship and I believe since they win the In-game championship for sure they are so hyped then their next target is to be declared as 2023-2024 NBA champion and for sure this is their next target.

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Big congrats to Lakers for becoming NBA in season champs but also big congrats for LeBron and his MVP win award who is well deserved in my opinion even if AD really played great during this tournament. Now , the job is done , they can actually focus on NBA games and maybe it's time to deliver a winning streak. Cool

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The great question about this win is this; do we think Lakers are good enough to try for the finals for real? Or did nobody cared about the title here?

The Lakers are in good shape as long as AD is healthy. Last season when they played against the Nuggets during the WCF, their bond wasn't so solid as lots of his teammates just came over in the middle of the season, If you remember the trade between Westbrook and a bunch of players. This season, though they didn't start well but as long as they are complete and healthy, they should be one of the best contender for the championship trophy.

They are still in the race if not the favorite but still one of those competitors as long as AD and LeBron are healthy and the rest of the squad
are also adjusting and adopting with how both stars are playing the game.

They've got the role players who can also bring that rhythm just need those good blends and chemistries to each other, which is still possible to develop
as the league still far to the next round.

Though, still the fact remains as when AD got another injury the winning chance of Lakers falls so better to make a good use of him
to prevent any major injury to take place.

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