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Quote from: Yogee on September 29, 2023, 10:15:58 AM

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But, this will be a new environment for Giannis, he is the face of the Bucks and now someone will come in that may change that. Chemistry will not be easy but I think Dame is not that unhappy about what happened.

I don't think Giannis will have an issue with someone like Dame commanding the play. I bet he'll appreciate the work load that will be taken off and the more floor space that will be created for him since Dame is such a threat in the perimeter and beyond the arc. I also see a Lebron-Kyrie dynamic here so chemistry won't be that big of a problem I guess. Team depth is probably their main weakness this new season.

100% no problem.
Giannis and the whole NBA know this is Giannis's team.
Dame also knows that and won't make any drama to maybe change that. All he cares about right now is winning, so does Giannis.
They have 1 goal in mind and will do everything they can to achieve that. Fighting to e the number one option or whatever is not on their mind, I am certain of that.

Both can feed of each other. Before they both had the whole attention of the opposite team. Playing together now opens up mor freedom on the court to creat for them.

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Quote from: danherbias07 on September 29, 2023, 05:13:11 AM

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But, this will be a new environment for Giannis, he is the face of the Bucks and now someone will come in that may change that. Chemistry will not be easy but I think Dame is not that unhappy about what happened.

I don't think Giannis will have an issue with someone like Dame commanding the play. I bet he'll appreciate the work load that will be taken off and the more floor space that will be created for him since Dame is such a threat in the perimeter and beyond the arc. I also see a Lebron-Kyrie dynamic here so chemistry won't be that big of a problem I guess. Team depth is probably their main weakness this new season.

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It's good though that Giannis blurted out to the media on what he want to do or what he needs. And so the Bucks responded with getting Lillard for Giannis and for sure every Buck fan are very happy on the development. At least Giannis will have every reason to stay with Milwaukee and wiling to work out with Dame and win more championships.

Very smart move by Giannis, and he was very honest with the management. Even if that trade did not happen, the outcome of the season is still a big factor affecting Giannis' decision. For now, the hype is very high, but we shouldn't be too complacent, as not all superstars who play with each other create great chemistry. It's undeniable that they have the talent already, but chemistry is still in question. Who will be the main man? Will it be Lillard or still Giannis?

Yes, it could be like Giannis telling it to the management what he wants, without telling to them directly. As he just spoke it to several podcasts and he reiterate it over and over again. And for sure the Management have heard it already and maybe even before that, they could have been looking for some great players in the trade block to get in order to satisfy Giannis.

As for the main man, it doesn't matter though, for sure Lillard knows that this is Giannis team. The most important thing is that they could join up and cooperate which each other as this could be the closest that Lillard could be a NBA champion and then Giannis and the Bucks could be the next team to established a dynasty with them teaming up. Maybe one or two ring will be good enough for the both of them.

I believe Lillard does not have the same characteristics as LeBron James and Kyrie Irving. For me, I believe he is a humble player like Curry. If Lillard is more effective as the team captain, I think Giannis would be okay with that. I heard his interview before; he just wants to win a championship, as individually, he is already fulfilled. This is the first time the Bucks are joined by a legit superstar. By saying that, I mean a player who led his previous team before he joined, and that is Lillard, as he was the main man in Portland for years.

Therefore, this is a challenging situation for both, as the fans are hyping it up, expecting they'll be a championship contender team.

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Quote from: Sanitough on September 29, 2023, 08:33:06 AM

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It's good though that Giannis blurted out to the media on what he want to do or what he needs. And so the Bucks responded with getting Lillard for Giannis and for sure every Buck fan are very happy on the development. At least Giannis will have every reason to stay with Milwaukee and wiling to work out with Dame and win more championships.

Very smart move by Giannis, and he was very honest with the management. Even if that trade did not happen, the outcome of the season is still a big factor affecting Giannis' decision. For now, the hype is very high, but we shouldn't be too complacent, as not all superstars who play with each other create great chemistry. It's undeniable that they have the talent already, but chemistry is still in question. Who will be the main man? Will it be Lillard or still Giannis?

Yes, it could be like Giannis telling it to the management what he wants, without telling to them directly. As he just spoke it to several podcasts and he reiterate it over and over again. And for sure the Management have heard it already and maybe even before that, they could have been looking for some great players in the trade block to get in order to satisfy Giannis.

As for the main man, it doesn't matter though, for sure Lillard knows that this is Giannis team. The most important thing is that they could join up and cooperate which each other as this could be the closest that Lillard could be a NBA champion and then Giannis and the Bucks could be the next team to established a dynasty with them teaming up. Maybe one or two ring will be good enough for the both of them.

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Quote from: btc_angela on September 29, 2023, 08:23:40 AM

It's good though that Giannis blurted out to the media on what he want to do or what he needs. And so the Bucks responded with getting Lillard for Giannis and for sure every Buck fan are very happy on the development. At least Giannis will have every reason to stay with Milwaukee and wiling to work out with Dame and win more championships.

Very smart move by Giannis, and he was very honest with the management. Even if that trade did not happen, the outcome of the season is still a big factor affecting Giannis' decision. For now, the hype is very high, but we shouldn't be too complacent, as not all superstars who play with each other create great chemistry. It's undeniable that they have the talent already, but chemistry is still in question. Who will be the main man? Will it be Lillard or still Giannis?

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Quote from: danherbias07 on September 29, 2023, 05:13:11 AM

After acquiring Damian Lillard, the pressure is on Giannis Antetokounmpo and Bucks to win another NBA title
https://sports.yahoo.com/after-acquiring-damian-lillard-the-pressure-is-on-giannis-antetokounmpo-and-bucks-to-win-another-nba-title-232122048.html

Milwaukee Bucks gave him the recipe for another ring, he might as well play harder this year and take the crown again because this ain't a cheap trade. Grin

I still believe Jrue Holiday has the best value when it comes to being a playmaker and a defensive elite. Heck, for me if he ain't in the Bucks in the Finals, they won't even win that year, or worse, they won't be in the Finals.
Health is no problem for him. He plays like every day is the Finals and doesn't play lazy.
But, this will be a new environment for Giannis, he is the face of the Bucks and now someone will come in that may change that. Chemistry will not be easy but I think Dame is not that unhappy about what happened. I guess he can just breath better now that he is out of the Blazers management.

I think the Bucks had to go big in order to keep Giannis in Milwaukee. He was considering leaving or at least gave them the hint that he might consider it if he didn't get some help. What they had was ok, but as we saw last year it wasn't even close to enough. It took 7 games for Boston to beat them, maybe with a pure shooter such as Dame who is clutch, they can turn the tables this year?

And that's why the odds for Bucks to win the "Most Regular Season Wins" is now 4.00 as they are the favorites. Regular Season Wins - Milwaukee Bucks Over/Under 55.5 games.

It's good though that Giannis blurted out to the media on what he want to do or what he needs. And so the Bucks responded with getting Lillard for Giannis and for sure every Buck fan are very happy on the development. At least Giannis will have every reason to stay with Milwaukee and wiling to work out with Dame and win more championships.

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Quote from: Yaunfitda on September 29, 2023, 07:54:59 AM

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With all of that, I only agree with Patrick Beverley. As a defensive player fan, I am always keen to those who plays hard on defense. Jrue Holiday is one of the defensive masters either defending a guard or a big man, it doesn't matter to him. Bucks has their offensive player on Giannis, what they need is a wingman for him and it's not Jrue that should've taken out. It should be Middleton! Ever since he became an All-Star, the fire on him is almost gone.
I can say he dodged a bullet here because Trail Blazers may have not liked him, and the Bucks was forced to trade Jrue.

Trade is a two-way street. Maybe Middleton was offered initially but the Blazers didn't want him probably due to his injuries and recent performance as well. Let's remember that Giannis is also asking questions on how serious the Bucks management are in winning another championship so the pressure is there to make moves that will likely make their franchise player happy and not leave as a free agent. Now is it the best trade for them? Probably not but let's see.

But there are news though that Jrue will be traded as well or the Blazers are going to used him as a trade bait to get young players or maybe future picks as they have to start their rebuilding as Dame is no longer their franchise players.

I do agree though, it's a two way street, maybe Jrue is a good defending and a offensive player, but Dame offer so much depth to the Bucks and with Giannis, they could be pose to be one of the most dominant duo next season. So for me, it's a win-win situation for both teams.

There has to be a change made by the Bucks as they didn't have a good playoffs last season. Imagine, they were the top team, and yet they lost to the Miami Heat, who were only in the play-in tournament. There's some kind of curse the Heat have on the Bucks as they could dominate this strong team. I guess the Bucks will get better with Lillard; at least they will have a clutch player who could take the last shot, which Giannis could not do as he is very predictable.

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Quote from: danherbias07 on September 29, 2023, 05:13:11 AM

After acquiring Damian Lillard, the pressure is on Giannis Antetokounmpo and Bucks to win another NBA title
https://sports.yahoo.com/after-acquiring-damian-lillard-the-pressure-is-on-giannis-antetokounmpo-and-bucks-to-win-another-nba-title-232122048.html

Milwaukee Bucks gave him the recipe for another ring, he might as well play harder this year and take the crown again because this ain't a cheap trade. Grin

I still believe Jrue Holiday has the best value when it comes to being a playmaker and a defensive elite. Heck, for me if he ain't in the Bucks in the Finals, they won't even win that year, or worse, they won't be in the Finals.
Health is no problem for him. He plays like every day is the Finals and doesn't play lazy.
But, this will be a new environment for Giannis, he is the face of the Bucks and now someone will come in that may change that. Chemistry will not be easy but I think Dame is not that unhappy about what happened. I guess he can just breath better now that he is out of the Blazers management.

I think the Bucks had to go big in order to keep Giannis in Milwaukee. He was considering leaving or at least gave them the hint that he might consider it if he didn't get some help. What they had was ok, but as we saw last year it wasn't even close to enough. It took 7 games for Boston to beat them, maybe with a pure shooter such as Dame who is clutch, they can turn the tables this year?

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Quote from: Yogee on September 28, 2023, 09:11:02 PM

Quote from: Reid on September 28, 2023, 07:27:24 PM

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With all of that, I only agree with Patrick Beverley. As a defensive player fan, I am always keen to those who plays hard on defense. Jrue Holiday is one of the defensive masters either defending a guard or a big man, it doesn't matter to him. Bucks has their offensive player on Giannis, what they need is a wingman for him and it's not Jrue that should've taken out. It should be Middleton! Ever since he became an All-Star, the fire on him is almost gone.
I can say he dodged a bullet here because Trail Blazers may have not liked him, and the Bucks was forced to trade Jrue.

Trade is a two-way street. Maybe Middleton was offered initially but the Blazers didn't want him probably due to his injuries and recent performance as well. Let's remember that Giannis is also asking questions on how serious the Bucks management are in winning another championship so the pressure is there to make moves that will likely make their franchise player happy and not leave as a free agent. Now is it the best trade for them? Probably not but let's see.

But there are news though that Jrue will be traded as well or the Blazers are going to used him as a trade bait to get young players or maybe future picks as they have to start their rebuilding as Dame is no longer their franchise players.

I do agree though, it's a two way street, maybe Jrue is a good defending and a offensive player, but Dame offer so much depth to the Bucks and with Giannis, they could be pose to be one of the most dominant duo next season. So for me, it's a win-win situation for both teams.

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They also signed Usman Garuba as well, not sure if he is the replacement for Dwight Howard or not.

Still young compared to Howard, the Warriors can still develop this player. He may not be very offensive, but in terms of defense, I think he can help. He averaged 4.1 rebounds per game last season with 12 minutes of playing time, which I believe is okay for a backup center. For me, I would just trust the Warriors in their decision. I wouldn't speculate too much. What's important is that they made a good move by trading Poole, which was basically one of the major reasons why they failed in the last playoffs.

Yes, that's what I also thought of the Warriors getting the Spaniard as he is young, so there is a big upside on him, lots of potential if properly developed by the Warriors program, just like what they have done to Kuminga so far.

As compare to Dwight who has a lot of experience under his belt and could be some issues down the line as we all know that Dwight sometimes make so many antics inside and outside of the court that might distract the Warriors or they might not get what Dwight wanted to.

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Quote from: Kasabus on September 29, 2023, 03:32:08 AM

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Pat could be a good back court duo with Lillard as he can shoot 3s and can score more than Jae.

That's just probably your personal opinion, but statistics don't lie as Jae Crowder shoots better than Pat Connaughton.

Please refer their respective stats.

https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/c/connapa01.html
https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/c/crowdja01.html

Jae is 43.6% while Pat is 33.9%, that's their last season's average, and if you look closely on the stats, Jae's percentage has improve significantly, which is opposite to what happen with Pat.

While the stats may say that Crawdor has a better 3-point shooting percentage, what matters more is the chemistry within the team. Pat has been with the team for 5 seasons, while Crowder has only played 1 season, not even the full season. So, I'm sure they will not only base the decision on shooting percentage; the team will evaluate which of the two players is more deserving to be in the starting lineup.

I also believe that Pat will be the starting SG due to his long years of experience playing with Giannis and the Bucks. Jae is a proven veteran but he is definitely more fit at SF and PF. Khris is also an SF and I doubt he can play as a regular SG too. Anyways, the coach can change the starting lineups any time of the season though depending on how the team performs.

I wonder what the odds look like now, especially in the east. More like Boston and Milwaukee are at 50/50 now, although Kristap is more prone to injury.

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Quote from: Reid on September 28, 2023, 07:27:24 PM

The Damian Lillard news is hot. I am more interested in the reaction of the players and I found this article in NBA.com.
https://www.nba.com/news/nba-reacts-damian-lillard-trade-bucks

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Just woke up and saw the news.

NBA = The Greatest Show On Earth.
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https://x.com/VicOladipo/status/1707113910342467608?s=20

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Christmas at my house @Dame_Lillard
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Losing Jrue is Big. That’s all imma say
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A Dame/ GA pick and roll is only supposed to happen in All Star Games
@Johnhenson31

https://x.com/Johnhenson31/status/1707102757537153034?s=20

Some hilarious and some serious.
With all of that, I only agree with Patrick Beverley. As a defensive player fan, I am always keen to those who plays hard on defense. Jrue Holiday is one of the defensive masters either defending a guard or a big man, it doesn't matter to him. Bucks has their offensive player on Giannis, what they need is a wingman for him and it's not Jrue that should've taken out. It should be Middleton! Ever since he became an All-Star, the fire on him is almost gone.
I can say he dodged a bullet here because Trail Blazers may have not liked him, and the Bucks was forced to trade Jrue.

I laughed out loud at the Giannis pick and roll comment. This trade is indeed big. But I saw a news that Lillard was prepared to join his team before the trade happened, I mean he was not expecting trade to go through. But Trail Blazers GM has said that there is no turning back at this point. On the paper, this trade seems to be beneficial to everyone, all of the three teams. But we might think differently after couple of months. There is indeed a huge pressure on the Bucks to win the title but it will most certainly not be easy. Usually, too many allstars are not good in one team. And we can never predict the chemistry. Although I like the 'frenchise player' thing, this trade has surely made the league more exciting.

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Quote from: danherbias07 on September 29, 2023, 05:13:11 AM

After acquiring Damian Lillard, the pressure is on Giannis Antetokounmpo and Bucks to win another NBA title
https://sports.yahoo.com/after-acquiring-damian-lillard-the-pressure-is-on-giannis-antetokounmpo-and-bucks-to-win-another-nba-title-232122048.html

Milwaukee Bucks gave him the recipe for another ring, he might as well play harder this year and take the crown again because this ain't a cheap trade. Grin

I still believe Jrue Holiday has the best value when it comes to being a playmaker and a defensive elite. Heck, for me if he ain't in the Bucks in the Finals, they won't even win that year, or worse, they won't be in the Finals.
Health is no problem for him. He plays like every day is the Finals and doesn't play lazy.
But, this will be a new environment for Giannis, he is the face of the Bucks and now someone will come in that may change that. Chemistry will not be easy but I think Dame is not that unhappy about what happened. I guess he can just breath better now that he is out of the Blazers management.

Now that Giannis has been heard by Bucks for sure there's no reason for him to create some noise to their team and now they need to focus on their practices so that they can create good chemistry with their new added star on their roster. Jrue holiday is heck one of the best player they have and I think its a huge loss for them to move him away on their team but guess they want to try their new duo and gamble with Lillard for a chance to win a championship next season. Lets just see if they will not get an huge first round upset on next season since if that case happen to them then provably this maybe another failed experiment to them. We know Lillard is so good but now he need to develop good chemistry with his new teammates.

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After acquiring Damian Lillard, the pressure is on Giannis Antetokounmpo and Bucks to win another NBA title
https://sports.yahoo.com/after-acquiring-damian-lillard-the-pressure-is-on-giannis-antetokounmpo-and-bucks-to-win-another-nba-title-232122048.html

Milwaukee Bucks gave him the recipe for another ring, he might as well play harder this year and take the crown again because this ain't a cheap trade. Grin

I still believe Jrue Holiday has the best value when it comes to being a playmaker and a defensive elite. Heck, for me if he ain't in the Bucks in the Finals, they won't even win that year, or worse, they won't be in the Finals.
Health is no problem for him. He plays like every day is the Finals and doesn't play lazy.
But, this will be a new environment for Giannis, he is the face of the Bucks and now someone will come in that may change that. Chemistry will not be easy but I think Dame is not that unhappy about what happened. I guess he can just breath better now that he is out of the Blazers management.

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It's a jackpot deal for the Bucks, and I think no one expected this outcome of the Lillard drama. Lillard is probably more than happy with this deal because he will play for a team that can really contend for the title. By the way, it's also worth noting that the Bucks not only got Lillard but also potentially retained Giannis, who earlier said that he might leave the Bucks.
As for Middleton's role, he will most likely be SG in the starting lineup. There is no need for the Bucks to put him on the bench.

This proves once again... basketball is like a box of chocolates. You never know what you're gonna get
This was also a big surprise for me and this proves that the East is coming with everything it needs to be champions of this NBA season

I'm looking forward to watch the Celtics in this season, but I confess that now I'm curious and eager to watch the Bucks as well.

Lillard, Middleton, Portis, Giannis and Lopez, could this be a potential Bucks starting lineup?

This is really a big surprise since who would think that Lillard would go to Bucks, The discussion is always goes to Miami that's why many people expect that he will really land there especially that Butler is also showing some good interest to put Lillard on their team.

But guess everything not goes with them and Portland surprised so many fans arounds the world. But still they win on that trade since they get a quality guys on their roster and for sure they will not get hurt for the departure of their superstar.

All eyes are now in Bucks next season since the addition of Lillard adds additional fire power in the offense of there team. The only question there if there defense is still good for letting their defensive guys go to other team.

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Quote from: Kelvinid on September 29, 2023, 02:39:02 AM

Quote from: Oasisman on September 29, 2023, 02:20:29 AM

Pat could be a good back court duo with Lillard as he can shoot 3s and can score more than Jae.

That's just probably your personal opinion, but statistics don't lie as Jae Crowder shoots better than Pat Connaughton.

Please refer their respective stats.

https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/c/connapa01.html
https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/c/crowdja01.html

Jae is 43.6% while Pat is 33.9%, that's their last season's average, and if you look closely on the stats, Jae's percentage has improve significantly, which is opposite to what happen with Pat.

While the stats may say that Crawdor has a better 3-point shooting percentage, what matters more is the chemistry within the team. Pat has been with the team for 5 seasons, while Crowder has only played 1 season, not even the full season. So, I'm sure they will not only base the decision on shooting percentage; the team will evaluate which of the two players is more deserving to be in the starting lineup.

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Quote from: Questat on September 29, 2023, 12:54:59 AM

Quote from: gagux123 on September 29, 2023, 12:47:04 AM

Lillard, Middleton, Portis, Giannis and Lopez, could this be a potential Bucks starting lineup?

Portis might sit out because they'd become too big if he were included in the starting lineup, which would slow the team down. Additionally, Portis is a great player, so it would be nice to see him in the second unit. You can check out this article that discusses the potential lineup.

https://ftw.usatoday.com/lists/bucks-starting-lineup-damian-lillard-trade-giannis-brook-lopez

POINT GUARD: Damian Lillard
SHOOTING GUARD: Khris Middleton
SMALL FORWARD: Jae Crowder
POWER FORWARD: Giannis Antetokounmpo
CENTER: Brook Lopez

Yeah, you're right. Portis is too big a guy, and he clearly won't play as a small forward, as his performance would be ineffective in that position. In any case, I think the Bucks will experiment with the starting lineup at the beginning of the season, and they will likely find the best fit by rotating players at the SG and SF positions.

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Quote from: Oasisman on September 29, 2023, 02:20:29 AM

Pat could be a good back court duo with Lillard as he can shoot 3s and can score more than Jae.

That's just probably your personal opinion, but statistics don't lie as Jae Crowder shoots better than Pat Connaughton.

Please refer their respective stats.

https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/c/connapa01.html
https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/c/crowdja01.html

Jae is 43.6% while Pat is 33.9%, that's their last season's average, and if you look closely on the stats, Jae's percentage has improve significantly, which is opposite to what happen with Pat.

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Quote from: Questat on September 29, 2023, 12:54:59 AM

Quote from: gagux123 on September 29, 2023, 12:47:04 AM

Lillard, Middleton, Portis, Giannis and Lopez, could this be a potential Bucks starting lineup?

Portis might sit out because they'd become too big if he were included in the starting lineup, which would slow the team down. Additionally, Portis is a great player, so it would be nice to see him in the second unit. You can check out this article that discusses the potential lineup.

https://ftw.usatoday.com/lists/bucks-starting-lineup-damian-lillard-trade-giannis-brook-lopez

POINT GUARD: Damian Lillard
SHOOTING GUARD: Khris Middleton
SMALL FORWARD: Jae Crowder
POWER FORWARD: Giannis Antetokounmpo
CENTER: Brook Lopez

I'd take Pat Connaughton over Jae Crowder. Potential line could be :
PG - Damian Lillard
SG - Pat Connaughton
SF - Khris Middleton
PF - Giannis Antetokounmpo
C - Brook Lopez
Pat could be a good back court duo with Lillard as he can shoot 3s and can score more than Jae. This could also give Giannis a lot more options to pass the ball outside when he try to penetrate and get caught with double or triple team. Lillard, Pat, and Middleton are all good 3pt and perimeter shooter, so this is going to be interesting. But we never know what would be the coach's strategy here and who's going to fill that 1 spot, we all know it's going to be Lillard, Khris, Giannis, and Lopez who's most definitely the best guys to be in the starting lineup.

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Quote from: gagux123 on September 29, 2023, 12:47:04 AM

Lillard, Middleton, Portis, Giannis and Lopez, could this be a potential Bucks starting lineup?

Portis might sit out because they'd become too big if he were included in the starting lineup, which would slow the team down. Additionally, Portis is a great player, so it would be nice to see him in the second unit. You can check out this article that discusses the potential lineup.

https://ftw.usatoday.com/lists/bucks-starting-lineup-damian-lillard-trade-giannis-brook-lopez

POINT GUARD: Damian Lillard
SHOOTING GUARD: Khris Middleton
SMALL FORWARD: Jae Crowder
POWER FORWARD: Giannis Antetokounmpo
CENTER: Brook Lopez

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