Topic: 2019 NBA Pre-Season - page 58. (Read 901983 times)

Going back to the Bronny and Jalen Brown story… Gilbert Arenas had an interesting take you can view using the below link:
https://x.com/thedunkcentral/status/1813741175280742678

The short of it is that Jalen Brown actually had a worse start than Bronny James did, shooting 5-26 in his first three games while Bronny has shot 6-26. Jalen was also a much higher draft pick with higher expectations.

He definitely is a time bomb and the way he did his career this past seasons was all just pure trash talks I guess that could make him the headline. Same goes to Green who definitely be signed by WWE in the future. I'd say, Pat Bev landing on Israel was still a heaven sent, his legacy would still continue though.

Maybe if he was still very young a number of team could have been willing to let a number of his awful antics slide, but no NBA team want a time bomb like Pat Beverly he does more talking now than plays and being a sour loser with never ending controversy and putting his teams difficult situation was never going to end well for him, I'm pretty afraid that the same fate could await Draymond Green once he gets traded or enter free agency, he'll need to actually play and talk less to be kept on any NBA roster. Kevin Porter Jr. for instance whom everyone could have thought his NBA days are over, but now he's back into the league after just a season, and the major factor that contributed to that is because he's still a young lad, if it were to be a veteran, I'm very sure that would have been it for him, Ja Morant as well probably wouldn't still be in the league if they are older guys.

His contract with the Sixers is $3,196,448 (https://www.spotrac.com/nba/player/_/id/6297/patrick-beverley) and probably that's what the Bucks absorb when he was traded. And probably that was around the NBA veteran minimum too but obviously he rejected it. Could be the offer is too good for him by Hapoel and then there is a good chance for him to travel as well, so win win for him.

I do agree, Embiid had a bad performance so far, but I do think that this will have to end sooner or later. We are still in the exhibition matches so we can tolerate this. But once it's a full blown Olympic game, he has to step up and AD can't start as a center.

NBA players usually go overseas only if they don't get acceptable offers from NBA teams, i.e. they are not needed in the NBA. So that 4 million dollar contract is a good deal for him, considering he is already 36 years old.
p.s.
Maybe no one in the NBA likes Beverley, but I think he has good defensive skills, and he clearly deserves the veteran minimum.

So true. It's all Bronny and Lebron in basketball media, and the top 3 draft picks are not getting the television time they can so that they can also be popular like Wemby, Chet, Paulo, etc... They do not even throw good news about him but because more people will watch it and so they will use it.

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Warriors and Jazz probably have path to Lauri Markkanen trade, but what is the middle ground?
https://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/warriors-and-jazz-probably-have-path-to-lauri-markkanen-trade-but-what-is-the-middle-ground/

That's a lot of players that the Warriors will lose if they will add Jonathan Kuminga and Podziemski. For Markkanen I think that will only be fair but if the Warriors really see their young guys' value then I will take out that multiple first-round picks and just trade Kuminga + Podziemski instead. Sure, Markkanen is a rising star but so is Kuminga who had been playing great in the last half of the last season. He is growing and getting more aggressive and soon he will also be one of the stars. Podziemski has done the same which I think is the reason why the Utah Jazz are interested in them.
If it materializes, it will be a hard decision for the Warriors. I know they need a new face for their team because Curry ain't going younger but will they destroy the chemistry built with those young guys for a new face?

I also remember when Trae Young played awfully during the Summer League (almost the same as Alex Sarr) but look where he's at right now. Main star of the Hawks. I'm not saying that Alex Sarr will be the same as him, but I think let's not focus too much on the Summer League and their performances. Focus on how they will be playing in the NBA once it starts.

TBH, there's no hype between the top 2 players in this year's draft. The media is focusing more on Bronny James and his nightly performance instead of these 2 players. I guess the fact that they aren't from the US is also one reason.

Yes, and it's because of his dad. I don't want to assume and conclude, but based on how he's playing in the Summer League, there's a chance that he might not even start, unless his father intervenes.

If Bronny is just an ordinary player with those kinds of stats when he's in college, will he get drafted in the NBA? % 5 PPG during his stint with USC? Hell, no, but it is what it is. He got drafted in the NBA because of his dad, and he also got a 4-year $8M guaranteed contract again because of his dad. It's just very disappointing how Le-GM abuses his power to do the things he wants. I believe this is also one reason why other players don't want to play in LA like DeMar, Klay, and even Harden.

Based on his past salaries, he is not making big money anymore, so I understand the decision.
https://hoopshype.com/player/patrick-beverley/salary/

Based on the news,
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So he is already secured with that salary, plus he will earned heavy minutes, unlike playing with the NBA where he will just be in the bench.
I think he still want to really show his value and at this stage, it's best to show it overseas.

Yeah he get more than that in NBA, He also receive an offer from Detroit Pistons and Houston Rockets a minimum veteran contract which is more than what he can get from Hapoel Tel Aviv. But I guess he decide to go on Europe and continue his journey there.

By the way this is good article to read about that news https://sports.yahoo.com/patrick-beverley-says-hes-leaving-nba-to-sign-with-hapoel-tel-aviv-in-the-israeli-basketball-league-191407649.html

Also for Embiid yeah many notice his exhibition match performance but, its no bearing game that's why its expected that they won't give all since for sure they are reserving their energy for more important games and also they try to avoid major injuries.

Actually, there were two teams interested in Patrick Beverley in the NBA, but he rejected them.
He rejected all the Veteran Minimum Contracts from the Detroit Pistons and Houston Rockets.
He signed with Hapoel Tel Aviv.
I understood from here that he wanted to leave the NBA, or he may have different thoughts.

6’2 - 210lb ..good bulk for his height , but yeah obviously 6’2 is a long ways off from 6’8 like his old man. Its also a different story if you’ve got ball handling skills like crazy, but I’m not sure he does (still hard to believe guys like Mugsy and Spud played in the league..how epic were those hornets teams tho).

Yeah from what you mentioned the dudes on the podcasts are saying, it does feel more like an excuse than a legitimate argument, but I guess we will see. Not too long ago I heard his bro was likely to be the better of the two. He’s definitely taller I know. Will be really interesting to see how it plays out.  Will be even more interesting to see them playing together this coming year. I think no matter what, regardless of Bronnys play in the D League, we’re gunna see him up on the Lakers at some point. Thats his dads dream and they may not have another opportunity being Lebron getting so “old” and Bronny maybe never good enough to play in the league without his pops influence.

I'm surprised to read today that the contract which included everything he asked for was only $2,000,000 per year for 2 years.  His last NBA contract had to be for significantly more than that, right?  I'm pretty sure that's below the veterans minimum in the NBA.  I guess that means not a single team in the NBA was interested in signing Pat Bev.  That, or the Israeli's are giving him some incredible perks outside of his compensation, which is more likely in my opinion than no team in the NBA wanting him for the league minimum.

Edit: Looks like I'm not the only one who thought Embiid wasn't making the expected effort in these exhibition games.  https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nba/joel-embiid-s-lackluster-performance-against-serbia-sparks-calls-for-benchings-from-nba-fans/ar-BB1q9YSk

Orlando is one of the good teams in Summer League. They won both games they played and in the last game they managed to get scoring contributions from every player who came into the game. Tristan Da Silva, Jett Howard and Jay Huff were the standouts. Memphis also won the two games they played and was notable for its high scoring production. I think both teams will up the tempo in this game and we will see a high scoring game.

It is only natural that Bronny got this much attention, for basically two main reasons aside from him being Lebrons son. First of all, the draft is weak, there aren't anyone who deserves more talk, like not a lot of people know even who the first pick is, everyone talks about Bronny so much that if we asked even NBA fans, they wouldn't be able to name top three picks, because it is a terrible draft and not any good players will come out of this. I would be shocked to see if there are 10 players who play 10 seasons out of this draft, majority of them will be overseas much sooner, but you don't get to say "I rather not pick", if you have a draft right, you pick someone "just in case" and if they are as bad as you think they are, you just don't sign them back.

Bronny talks are mainly (aside from being lebrons son) because of this, because if there was some superstar potential player, like if Wemby was drafted this year, that would have probably taken some attention away from Bronny. Secondly, he was not ready, not because he is bad, but because he had some medical conditions and did not play, he should have played a bit, not to be better, but to gain experience, he did not ,so he is "basically" like from high school to NBA, and very rare amount of players can do that successfully.

That is a good question. I’ve never followed college basketball much, but from the podcasts I’ve watched with NBA players talking about the situation, they claim that Bronny has been trained for the NBA since day 1 and college ball is more about fitting into a system. That’s the excuse anyway. I think his college numbers would justify a starting role had he stayed, but I also think his height is a major factor that will limit his NBA effectiveness. It should also be noted I have a terrible track record of predicting how young players will fare in the NBA. I thought Wiggins would be the next MJ and I thought LaMelo would be a bust.

I have a question for those of you who have a better grasp of the league right now, and especially college basketball..but my question is would Bronny James even be starting at USC had he stayed another year?  I know that he wasn't doing all that great last year, and it's just kind of crazy to think that he might not even be starting at USC next year...despite being drafted in the NBA this year. 

We all know he'd not have been drafted regardless, if his dad wasn't who he is.

Starting from his college basketball, to being drafted and to his plays, the kid is always getting the hate. Well, he can't avoid that and he can learn from his dad on how to just ignore all of the hate that's being thrown to him. He's starting out his career and people are laughing at how low the points he's contributing to their recent games. People should also talk about Alex Sarr, the second draft pick by the Washington Wizards and look at the numbers that he's contributed to their most recent game. 

Maybe he has some better offer outside the NBA, but he will be miss for sure as if he'll just being utilized well, he could help the team in terms of defense. Unfortunately for him, he landed on a bad team, a team that is just full of hype but struggled in the playoffs. Lillard + Giannis, not really a good pair iMO.


Brown should just respect Bronny's father, I know he doesn't look like on the level of the NBA, but he could have keep it on himself. Saying that is just like saying Bronny has no chance to improve and Lebron is using his influence to draft his son.

And later on, we will see constructive criticism on Bronny if ever he will play. Yes, everyone is entitled to his opinion and Jaylen Brown just so happen to give his and then it's up to us whether we want to believed it or not, but I guess right now, we will say that Jaylen is spot on with his criticism.

With that, everything is on Bronny, he will really have to live up the hype of being Lebron James son. Although there are a lot of great rookies as well in this class. And just imagine out of nowhere, Bronny proved everyone wrong by winning ROTY award, that will be fitting for him and to Lebron too. But that is a long shot and the chances are very slim.

Exactly and nothing wrong with giving his opinion the way how Bronny perform. We can really see for couple of games he participated that he's not NBA ready yet. But the greed of his father to add a milestone for his career will make his son suffer. For sure lot more criticism will come as Bronny will always be hot in the eyes of NBA fans.

Those kind of statement is not for hate. For sure everyone could able to notice that Bronny performance really suck. To bad for young man experiencing this to much pressure on his career. If they could just wait for another year then train more harder maybe Bronny would became more better at matured player at that time.