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Quote from: boyptc on September 26, 2024, 07:26:56 AM

Quote from: xLays on September 26, 2024, 06:52:30 AM

I'm surprised no one posted this yet on this thread. About Derrick Rose is Retiring. The youngest NBA MVP. If Derrick Rose hadn't been injured, his playing style might have been like Russell Westbrook. And for sure he can carry a team for NBA Championship. It is sad that Derrick Rose has not won any championships in his career. Remember the super team in Cleveland that didn't work. Wade, D. Rose, Love, IT and James 2017-18 NBA season.

First it was Grizzlies waiving his contract and now, it's just the recent about his retirement. He even posted a cryptic video on his socials.

Well, he doesn't have an extravagant retirement and many probably are surprised with his announcement. He can enjoy his life with his family.

That's what retirement is for or he can pursue other things and continue his love and passion for the ball.

The Grizzlies waived his contract because it's his own wish in order for his retirement to be a peaceful one.

It's just sad that D. Rose will be added to the list of all-star players and MVPs out there that never won a title in their whole NBA career. If only... if only he didn't get injured, it might've been a different career for how and with his age, I believe that he can still play at least a year or two. Anyway, like the late "Black Mamba" said, people retire because they want to pursue new things, and this might be the case for Rose. He will find a new passion or at least a new way to earn money. Who knows, there might be a college team out there that might hire him on a coaching staff.

Whatever the case is, it's a great thing for me that I watched him played during his prime. During his prime where he's just dunking and making big plays over big plays. I will not forget him because of his buzzer beater in Game 3 against the Cavaliers in a playoff series.

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Quote from: Yaunfitda on September 27, 2024, 06:38:10 AM

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Quote from: xLays on September 26, 2024, 06:52:30 AM

I'm surprised no one posted this yet on this thread. About Derrick Rose is Retiring. The youngest NBA MVP. If Derrick Rose hadn't been injured, his playing style might have been like Russell Westbrook. And for sure he can carry a team for NBA Championship. It is sad that Derrick Rose has not won any championships in his career. Remember the super team in Cleveland that didn't work. Wade, D. Rose, Love, IT and James 2017-18 NBA season.

Perhaps the first name that came to mind when "what if" was mentioned was D.Rose. He was a very good basketball player, a very good athlete. Despite serious injuries, he managed to become one of the legends of the NBA.
Even though he never became a champion, we will always remember him and his playing style very well.
The shoes that Adidas released on his behalf were among the best shoes of the time. In recent years, he has been able to do great things in the NBA despite his age. Time passes and we get older

If by chance he brought a ring with the Bulls when he is healthy, maybe there will be a chance that the management will want him back for sentimental reasons. However, in the East, if my memory serves me right, Lebron and the Cavs are the top team in the East that time and so even a prime DRose, he wasn't able to beat the Cavs. I haven't seen his shoes that time though, so I can't comment on that, but we have seen new Adidas specially ANT where there was a hype back then when he played in the Olympics. I would say though that in terms of performance, I like Klay's Anta, Grin

. Cheap but it's a great basketball shoes for me.

Irlts not that lebron and clevland were so much better than the Bulls with rose. I'm convinced just like other teams they would have made moves to add the right people if rose never got hurt. I'm not a huge proponent of what ifs but this is one of those times. Pre injury you surround dude with shooters and rebounder and you habe a championship contending team. Every contender needs a rose on their team or it doesn't work.

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Quote from: boyptc on September 27, 2024, 01:30:06 PM

Quote from: Baofeng on September 27, 2024, 12:56:29 PM

True, there are a lot of what if for DRose, specially if he didn't have that career ending injury. Youngest MVP and on the brick to have one of the best season and player in the Bulls uniform since MJ himself and there's a lot of promise. Specially him and Lebron are in the same division that time and they have a lot of great battles.

What if he did bring a ring with the Bulls, it could really change what is the East during his prime. It's really very unfortunate that he had to earn his career. But at least during his peak, and maybe up to this day, we will not see such player which pure talent like him.

Truly a lot of what ifs for him. We can't just hate this guy and he's one of the players that's probably has less haters than the known ones.

Him being in the hall of fame has got 10% chance with what I've seen. Come on league, he's the youngest player to win an MVP and with that chance?

He doesn't have the swag even during his prime when he was just steam rolling teams as he won the MVP awards. And he has this personality that most of like. Not sure though if he can still make it to the basketball HOF as he didn't have a good career because of him getting injured.

And as far as I know, him and Lebron were teammates, post DRose prime. But only played just a couple of games with the Cavs. But him during his prime? He is really that explosive, he has one of the best first time and then posterizing big men.

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Quote from: Baofeng on September 27, 2024, 12:56:29 PM

True, there are a lot of what if for DRose, specially if he didn't have that career ending injury. Youngest MVP and on the brick to have one of the best season and player in the Bulls uniform since MJ himself and there's a lot of promise. Specially him and Lebron are in the same division that time and they have a lot of great battles.

What if he did bring a ring with the Bulls, it could really change what is the East during his prime. It's really very unfortunate that he had to earn his career. But at least during his peak, and maybe up to this day, we will not see such player which pure talent like him.

Truly a lot of what ifs for him. We can't just hate this guy and he's one of the players that's probably has less haters than the known ones.

Him being in the hall of fame has got 10% chance with what I've seen. Come on league, he's the youngest player to win an MVP and with that chance?

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Quote from: xzone on September 27, 2024, 06:09:31 AM

Quote from: xLays on September 26, 2024, 06:52:30 AM

I'm surprised no one posted this yet on this thread. About Derrick Rose is Retiring. The youngest NBA MVP. If Derrick Rose hadn't been injured, his playing style might have been like Russell Westbrook. And for sure he can carry a team for NBA Championship. It is sad that Derrick Rose has not won any championships in his career. Remember the super team in Cleveland that didn't work. Wade, D. Rose, Love, IT and James 2017-18 NBA season.

Perhaps the first name that came to mind when "what if" was mentioned was D.Rose. He was a very good basketball player, a very good athlete. Despite serious injuries, he managed to become one of the legends of the NBA.
Even though he never became a champion, we will always remember him and his playing style very well.
The shoes that Adidas released on his behalf were among the best shoes of the time. In recent years, he has been able to do great things in the NBA despite his age. Time passes and we get older

True, there are a lot of what if for DRose, specially if he didn't have that career ending injury. Youngest MVP and on the brick to have one of the best season and player in the Bulls uniform since MJ himself and there's a lot of promise. Specially him and Lebron are in the same division that time and they have a lot of great battles.

What if he did bring a ring with the Bulls, it could really change what is the East during his prime. It's really very unfortunate that he had to earn his career. But at least during his peak, and maybe up to this day, we will not see such player which pure talent like him.

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Quote from: xzone on September 27, 2024, 06:09:31 AM

Quote from: xLays on September 26, 2024, 06:52:30 AM

I'm surprised no one posted this yet on this thread. About Derrick Rose is Retiring. The youngest NBA MVP. If Derrick Rose hadn't been injured, his playing style might have been like Russell Westbrook. And for sure he can carry a team for NBA Championship. It is sad that Derrick Rose has not won any championships in his career. Remember the super team in Cleveland that didn't work. Wade, D. Rose, Love, IT and James 2017-18 NBA season.

Perhaps the first name that came to mind when "what if" was mentioned was D.Rose. He was a very good basketball player, a very good athlete. Despite serious injuries, he managed to become one of the legends of the NBA.
Even though he never became a champion, we will always remember him and his playing style very well.
The shoes that Adidas released on his behalf were among the best shoes of the time. In recent years, he has been able to do great things in the NBA despite his age. Time passes and we get older

If by chance he brought a ring with the Bulls when he is healthy, maybe there will be a chance that the management will want him back for sentimental reasons. However, in the East, if my memory serves me right, Lebron and the Cavs are the top team in the East that time and so even a prime DRose, he wasn't able to beat the Cavs. I haven't seen his shoes that time though, so I can't comment on that, but we have seen new Adidas specially ANT where there was a hype back then when he played in the Olympics. I would say though that in terms of performance, I like Klay's Anta, Grin

. Cheap but it's a great basketball shoes for me.

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Quote from: xzone on September 27, 2024, 06:09:31 AM

Quote from: xLays on September 26, 2024, 06:52:30 AM

I'm surprised no one posted this yet on this thread. About Derrick Rose is Retiring. The youngest NBA MVP. If Derrick Rose hadn't been injured, his playing style might have been like Russell Westbrook. And for sure he can carry a team for NBA Championship. It is sad that Derrick Rose has not won any championships in his career. Remember the super team in Cleveland that didn't work. Wade, D. Rose, Love, IT and James 2017-18 NBA season.

Perhaps the first name that came to mind when "what if" was mentioned was D.Rose. He was a very good basketball player, a very good athlete. Despite serious injuries, he managed to become one of the legends of the NBA.
Even though he never became a champion, we will always remember him and his playing style very well.
The shoes that Adidas released on his behalf were among the best shoes of the time. In recent years, he has been able to do great things in the NBA despite his age. Time passes and we get older

He's the man with no haters on NBA so provably that all achievements he get will be remembered by his fans. Although he didn't win a championship but still his past achievement gotten in Bulls also the way how he play basketball is enough for him to be recognize as true legend. Rose career is full of what ifs but the guy is already settle and decide not to call it up since he still have great career in NBA.

Also no doubt Rose shoes is good to many good reviews about it and provably fans will continue to support by buying his signature shoes. Everything comes to an end and guess time of Rose just ended the same as other NBA legend before, So let see what will be next after NBA for him.

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Quote from: xLays on September 26, 2024, 06:52:30 AM

I'm surprised no one posted this yet on this thread. About Derrick Rose is Retiring. The youngest NBA MVP. If Derrick Rose hadn't been injured, his playing style might have been like Russell Westbrook. And for sure he can carry a team for NBA Championship. It is sad that Derrick Rose has not won any championships in his career. Remember the super team in Cleveland that didn't work. Wade, D. Rose, Love, IT and James 2017-18 NBA season.

Perhaps the first name that came to mind when "what if" was mentioned was D.Rose. He was a very good basketball player, a very good athlete. Despite serious injuries, he managed to become one of the legends of the NBA.
Even though he never became a champion, we will always remember him and his playing style very well.
The shoes that Adidas released on his behalf were among the best shoes of the time. In recent years, he has been able to do great things in the NBA despite his age. Time passes and we get older

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Quote from: Fredomago on September 27, 2024, 05:22:25 AM

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Quote from: Fredomago on September 26, 2024, 03:01:47 AM

We never know what future will be it's a matter of experienced and enough playing time, if he got that chance then maybe he'll improve something but for sure criticizm will always be there as many eyes from those people who loves to attract readers and viewers will drag his name to earn clicks and views.

Along the way, he got his paycheck critics will get their views and both sides will benefits from it, he just need to get use of it.

No one will argue that criticism is necessary and that it only brings benefits. If a person is not pointed out his shortcomings, mistakes, then he will grow up to be a monster or simply a nobody. I want to believe that nothing like this will happen to Bronny and that everything will be fine with him. I would like to see the name of such great players in the future. Let them delight us with their play and make us a little nervous in important matches.

Maybe he can improve after that criticizm that being thrown to him, else, it just give more reason to criticize him and whatever he'll do will always be monitored by those people who loves using his name or his dad's name, he's inside the industry where being public gives other people reason to criticize,

it' more on how he will do his best and who knows with those new upgrades technology that's available for him, he may bring something on the league that will lead him to earn his own supporters and fans.

He doesn't have a choice but to really improved his game, but that is, if he will be given time to play, otherwise, every game that they will have, they will criticized him for whatever reasons they can throw to him. And so he should be better prepared for it.

Otherwise, he will be mentally stressed, although he has obviously a great mentor to guide him as he also have been in that kind of situation before but he was able to proved everything wrong about it that he is all hype and overrated. But, they are totally different, Lebron is really talented coming off from high school, while Bronny is just an average player.

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Quote from: fruktik on September 27, 2024, 12:46:49 AM

Quote from: Fredomago on September 26, 2024, 03:01:47 AM

We never know what future will be it's a matter of experienced and enough playing time, if he got that chance then maybe he'll improve something but for sure criticizm will always be there as many eyes from those people who loves to attract readers and viewers will drag his name to earn clicks and views.

Along the way, he got his paycheck critics will get their views and both sides will benefits from it, he just need to get use of it.

No one will argue that criticism is necessary and that it only brings benefits. If a person is not pointed out his shortcomings, mistakes, then he will grow up to be a monster or simply a nobody. I want to believe that nothing like this will happen to Bronny and that everything will be fine with him. I would like to see the name of such great players in the future. Let them delight us with their play and make us a little nervous in important matches.

Maybe he can improve after that criticizm that being thrown to him, else, it just give more reason to criticize him and whatever he'll do will always be monitored by those people who loves using his name or his dad's name, he's inside the industry where being public gives other people reason to criticize,

it' more on how he will do his best and who knows with those new upgrades technology that's available for him, he may bring something on the league that will lead him to earn his own supporters and fans.

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Quote from: wheelz1200 on September 26, 2024, 10:23:22 AM

Quote from: xLays on September 26, 2024, 06:52:30 AM

I'm surprised no one posted this yet on this thread. About Derrick Rose is Retiring. The youngest NBA MVP. If Derrick Rose hadn't been injured, his playing style might have been like Russell Westbrook. And for sure he can carry a team for NBA Championship. It is sad that Derrick Rose has not won any championships in his career. Remember the super team in Cleveland that didn't work. Wade, D. Rose, Love, IT and James 2017-18 NBA season.

Yeah I seen that amd pre knee injury dude was insane. Had such a smooth game, didn't talk just let his game play. He was going to be one of the best points to do it but that knee injury killed that all off. Was a huge D rose fan. He was so much better than russ and that's not a knock on russ, just how good dude was.

We have discussed the case of Derrick Rose already.

So true, he could have given Lebron a hard time in the East if not for him getting injured. And it was not just another injury, it was really ugly, like PG or Hayward. And he was lucky that DRose was able to make a comeback and teams till picking him up although we have seen that he is just a shade of himself. That cross over and then that sudden leaping ability that really makes watching DRose during his prime as a Bull extra fun and entertaining.

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Quote from: Fredomago on September 26, 2024, 03:01:47 AM

We never know what future will be it's a matter of experienced and enough playing time, if he got that chance then maybe he'll improve something but for sure criticizm will always be there as many eyes from those people who loves to attract readers and viewers will drag his name to earn clicks and views.

Along the way, he got his paycheck critics will get their views and both sides will benefits from it, he just need to get use of it.

No one will argue that criticism is necessary and that it only brings benefits. If a person is not pointed out his shortcomings, mistakes, then he will grow up to be a monster or simply a nobody. I want to believe that nothing like this will happen to Bronny and that everything will be fine with him. I would like to see the name of such great players in the future. Let them delight us with their play and make us a little nervous in important matches.

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Quote from: Oasisman on September 26, 2024, 11:06:53 PM

Quote from: xLays on September 26, 2024, 06:52:30 AM

I'm surprised no one posted this yet on this thread. About Derrick Rose is Retiring. The youngest NBA MVP. If Derrick Rose hadn't been injured, his playing style might have been like Russell Westbrook. And for sure he can carry a team for NBA Championship. It is sad that Derrick Rose has not won any championships in his career. Remember the super team in Cleveland that didn't work. Wade, D. Rose, Love, IT and James 2017-18 NBA season.

That kind of expected after he got waived by Memphis. He could have retired much earlier, but his got a huge heart in trying to be resilient after all the years the injury has made him. Now, it's safe to say that he's done. I mean it does look like he had like a short career after being named as the youngest MVP, but I guess he have already accepted his fate.
With a lot of talent in the free agency, I doubt that he can get another veteran deal with any team next season.

That news showed up on my device today too, glad someone shared it, even if it slipped in my mind. It’s good for D Rose that he made his decision to retire; we definitely won’t forget him as the youngest MVP in NBA history, and that achievement alone cements his place in the books. He was explosive back then, but we never really know what the future holds for any player; injuries can end careers, and that’s what happened to him, just slowly over time.

But on the bright side, he earned $166,120,847 throughout his basketball career, not bad at all!

https://www.spotrac.com/nba/player/earnings/_/id/6095/derrick-rose

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Quote from: xLays on September 26, 2024, 06:52:30 AM

I'm surprised no one posted this yet on this thread. About Derrick Rose is Retiring. The youngest NBA MVP. If Derrick Rose hadn't been injured, his playing style might have been like Russell Westbrook. And for sure he can carry a team for NBA Championship. It is sad that Derrick Rose has not won any championships in his career. Remember the super team in Cleveland that didn't work. Wade, D. Rose, Love, IT and James 2017-18 NBA season.

That kind of expected after he got waived by Memphis. He could have retired much earlier, but his got a huge heart in trying to be resilient after all the years the injury has made him. Now, it's safe to say that he's done. I mean it does look like he had like a short career after being named as the youngest MVP, but I guess he have already accepted his fate.
With a lot of talent in the free agency, I doubt that he can get another veteran deal with any team next season.

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Quote from: dwyane36 on September 26, 2024, 09:31:10 PM

Quote from: avp2306 on September 26, 2024, 06:18:21 PM

Its hard to say that current Lakers roster is title contender since they don't do any big moves this season. So provably that this year there's nothing much to expect for their team so fans should lower down their expectation that Lakers would win a championship.

Throughout the offseason, the Lakers have not been in the trading news as often as fans would like. Honestly, I don't see any significant improvement in their roster compared to last season. So I'm inclined to think that either the play-in tournament or the first round of the playoffs will be the cap for the Lakers in the upcoming season.

Do you think drafting Bronny doesn’t really make a big difference? Tongue

Honestly, they’re pretty much the same team, but it seems they trust their current roster, believing that the real issue last season was the coaching style. With a new coach, who they think is an upgrade over Darvin Ham, there’s an expectation for the team to improve. I like where the Lakers stand now...there’s not too much hype around them. This makes me consider placing a future bet on them, as their odds are high, which to me means value. I have a feeling we might be surprised this coming season, but not because of Bronny. Just to clarify my stance on that.

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Quote from: avp2306 on September 26, 2024, 06:18:21 PM

Its hard to say that current Lakers roster is title contender since they don't do any big moves this season. So provably that this year there's nothing much to expect for their team so fans should lower down their expectation that Lakers would win a championship.

Throughout the offseason, the Lakers have not been in the trading news as often as fans would like. Honestly, I don't see any significant improvement in their roster compared to last season. So I'm inclined to think that either the play-in tournament or the first round of the playoffs will be the cap for the Lakers in the upcoming season.

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Quote from: avp2306 on September 26, 2024, 06:18:21 PM

We don't know what's gonna happen if there's no influence intervention gonna happen since Bronny still have a chance to get drafted since he's decent player anyways.

Sorry but I 100% have to disagree on that. If he wasn't Lebron's son he would have NEVER been drafted this summer, and I mean never.
Was was already just drafted 55th overall and I honestly believe if the draft had 100 players to be drafted he wouldn't have a chance to make the cut.
Don't forget, he played for a USC team that had the worst record in years only winning 8 or 20 games. And even on a bad team like this he only managed to get under 5ppg (with terrible shooting splits), under 3 rebounds per game and around 2 assists per game in almost 20 min playing time.
These numbers say one thing, NOT NBA READY.

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Quote from: AHOYBRAUSE on September 26, 2024, 06:11:44 PM

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Quote from: Fredomago on September 26, 2024, 07:33:35 AM

That's the advantage, LeBron uses his influence to make things possible for his son and there's nothing we can do about that, Lakers knows how to run their business and they use that edge giving James Jr a decent contract, like what you mentioned basing from his past stats we can't expect too much from him, just watch when the regular season's start and see if there's improvements that he can contribute to his team.

Lebron even had a say to the roster with the teams that he was in. So, obviously the decision of picking his son by the Lakers was already intact even before.

That's because he has mentioned that whichever team picks his son, he'll also go there. On the business side, Lakers takes this but they still have a good roster though.

Let's see how Bronny will be given the playing time there, but I am not expecting a lot from him.

Well there was never really a chance of any other team picking Bronny anyway since Rich Paul (their agent) called all the teams to let them know that if they pick Bronny he will got to Australia and they wasted their pick on him. So LA was the only real landing spot for him anyway after this.
I don't see the team as being competitive. Their best player ( AD ) is injury prone and LBJ obviously is turning 39 end of this year, so you can't expect him to carry the work load over a 82 game regular season as well. Who else is there to carry the team? I don't see anybody.

We don't know what's gonna happen if there's no influence intervention gonna happen since Bronny still have a chance to get drafted since he's decent player anyways. Also he has a name on basketball scene so provably the hype he could bring is useful for other team. What I think other team could use him as LBJ kryptonite since provably that he will not do any nasty action to his son in court. But guess teams made already a deal that Bronny will go to Lakers that's why they didn't interfere this event to happen. But let see how LBJ and Bronny will perform together if we can see something exciting with their duo or team up.

Its hard to say that current Lakers roster is title contender since they don't do any big moves this season. So provably that this year there's nothing much to expect for their team so fans should lower down their expectation that Lakers would win a championship.

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Quote from: livingfree on September 26, 2024, 06:03:00 PM

Quote from: Fredomago on September 26, 2024, 07:33:35 AM

That's the advantage, LeBron uses his influence to make things possible for his son and there's nothing we can do about that, Lakers knows how to run their business and they use that edge giving James Jr a decent contract, like what you mentioned basing from his past stats we can't expect too much from him, just watch when the regular season's start and see if there's improvements that he can contribute to his team.

Lebron even had a say to the roster with the teams that he was in. So, obviously the decision of picking his son by the Lakers was already intact even before.

That's because he has mentioned that whichever team picks his son, he'll also go there. On the business side, Lakers takes this but they still have a good roster though.

Let's see how Bronny will be given the playing time there, but I am not expecting a lot from him.

Well there was never really a chance of any other team picking Bronny anyway since Rich Paul (their agent) called all the teams to let them know that if they pick Bronny he will got to Australia and they wasted their pick on him. So LA was the only real landing spot for him anyway after this.
I don't see the team as being competitive. Their best player ( AD ) is injury prone and LBJ obviously is turning 39 end of this year, so you can't expect him to carry the work load over a 82 game regular season as well. Who else is there to carry the team? I don't see anybody.

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Quote from: Fredomago on September 26, 2024, 07:33:35 AM

That's the advantage, LeBron uses his influence to make things possible for his son and there's nothing we can do about that, Lakers knows how to run their business and they use that edge giving James Jr a decent contract, like what you mentioned basing from his past stats we can't expect too much from him, just watch when the regular season's start and see if there's improvements that he can contribute to his team.

Lebron even had a say to the roster with the teams that he was in. So, obviously the decision of picking his son by the Lakers was already intact even before.

That's because he has mentioned that whichever team picks his son, he'll also go there. On the business side, Lakers takes this but they still have a good roster though.

Let's see how Bronny will be given the playing time there, but I am not expecting a lot from him.

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