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July 13, 2024, 08:18:55 AM
I do not think that Nike had anything to do with this, I think Lebron was the one who built this team to be fair. And aside from Embiid, who is clearly not American and not like "oh he is black" type of racist thing, dude spent most of his life in another nation and was born there, if you are born on a nation but you have parents who were born in another, then I support you being on a team for a nation that you are born in, but this dude wasn't even born here.

Aside from him, they brought in some of the big guns and I am sure that they are going to do very well. I do not think that anyone will get even close to them, this isn't some ok players team, this is the stars and nobody has any players that is even close to this level.

Based on his bio. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joel_Embiid

he is an "Cameroonian / French / American"

So he could play with either of these three national teams,  Grin... But he chose America, so I think there's no problem with that. In our national team, there's even one naturalized citizen who's a foreigner, but since it's allowed, that's fine.

I think we are talking too much about Brown's complaint. It's time to rest that and give Team USA peace of mind and wish them the best.
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July 13, 2024, 05:17:18 AM
Jalen Brunson renewed his contract with the Knicks for 4 years, 156.5 million dollars.
If Brunson had renewed his contract next year instead of this year, he would have earned 5 years and 269 million dollars. However, Brunson wanted to give his team "financial comfort".
This is how Brunson supported his team for the championship.
He cannot do it alone, I think that is what he meant for accepting the contract now. He needs help and obviously, money is needed if you want better players to be on your side.
How I wish all superstars think like Brunson especially if your goal is a championship and not just the money. The same goes with Lebron James who is ready to cut some of his salary just to get a new star player in their roster. Sacrifices.
Also, I think he doesn't want to look bad when he cannot win a championship and we all know how New York treats the players, there's always the pressure.
Yes, and probably it was something to do with his Father as well, who is the assistant coach of New York Knicks, so at least he respect and give Knicks a leeway somewhat and instead of signing it for next year for a max contract for him, might be better this year and then see how it goes not just for Jalen but for other teams as the Knicks could still sign some good players to be added so that they will be a complete team and could make a good run just like they did last season. I think Lebron also do that this season and willing to have a pay cut just to get players like DeRozan and Klay Thompson, but it went to nothing though.
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July 13, 2024, 02:50:03 AM
I do not think that Nike had anything to do with this, I think Lebron was the one who built this team to be fair. And aside from Embiid, who is clearly not American and not like "oh he is black" type of racist thing, dude spent most of his life in another nation and was born there, if you are born on a nation but you have parents who were born in another, then I support you being on a team for a nation that you are born in, but this dude wasn't even born here.

Aside from him, they brought in some of the big guns and I am sure that they are going to do very well. I do not think that anyone will get even close to them, this isn't some ok players team, this is the stars and nobody has any players that is even close to this level.
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July 13, 2024, 02:25:22 AM
Jalen Brunson renewed his contract with the Knicks for 4 years, 156.5 million dollars.
If Brunson had renewed his contract next year instead of this year, he would have earned 5 years and 269 million dollars. However, Brunson wanted to give his team "financial comfort".
This is how Brunson supported his team for the championship.
He cannot do it alone, I think that is what he meant for accepting the contract now. He needs help and obviously, money is needed if you want better players to be on your side.
How I wish all superstars think like Brunson especially if your goal is a championship and not just the money. The same goes with Lebron James who is ready to cut some of his salary just to get a new star player in their roster. Sacrifices.
Also, I think he doesn't want to look bad when he cannot win a championship and we all know how New York treats the players, there's always the pressure.
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July 13, 2024, 02:19:46 AM
Jalen Brunson renewed his contract with the Knicks for 4 years, 156.5 million dollars.
If Brunson had renewed his contract next year instead of this year, he would have earned 5 years and 269 million dollars. However, Brunson wanted to give his team "financial comfort".
This is how Brunson supported his team for the championship.

I think he also knows he isn’t as good as he is being portrayed right now and wanted to secure his bag while he could. If he gets injured or exposed next year he could be wishing he’d get the 150 million… I would have done the same thing if I was him and given the same answer, but the truth is he didn’t hold out for 269 because he’s not worth it and he knows it.
He is the only one who know his real intention, but comparing to other players that bag over $200 million contract, I think Brunson was even better.

So I made some quick search and there are the names.
https://www.businessinsider.com/nba-players-who-signed-200-million-contracts#10-joel-embiid-4-years-208-million-10
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1. Nikola Jokic — 5 years, $269 million\
2. Bradley Beal — 5 years, $251 million
3. Giannis Antetokounmpo — 5 years, $228 million
4. Devin Booker — 4 years, $224 million
5. Karl-Anthony Towns — 4 years, $224 million
6. Stephen Curry — 4 years, $215 million
7. Luka Doncic — 5 years, $215 million
8. Zach LaVine — 5 years, $215 million
9. Trae Young — 5 years, $215 million

10. Joel Embiid — 4 years, $208 million

So all the names in bold text, I believe Brunson is better than them in terms of impact to the team.
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July 13, 2024, 01:31:09 AM
Jalen Brunson renewed his contract with the Knicks for 4 years, 156.5 million dollars.
If Brunson had renewed his contract next year instead of this year, he would have earned 5 years and 269 million dollars. However, Brunson wanted to give his team "financial comfort".
This is how Brunson supported his team for the championship.

I think he also knows he isn’t as good as he is being portrayed right now and wanted to secure his bag while he could. If he gets injured or exposed next year he could be wishing he’d get the 150 million… I would have done the same thing if I was him and given the same answer, but the truth is he didn’t hold out for 269 because he’s not worth it and he knows it.
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July 12, 2024, 10:34:33 PM
This Olympic team will of course win it, but I guarantee you that it will be harder than they think, hell I may even say that they may fail to do it as well, we really don't know what's going to happen. We should realize that things aren't as easy as it looks, and we could potentially see them do something different, maybe it is going to be harder.

I think the best way to go about this situation would be just realize that they could just calm down and play slower, because if they want to play faster, most of these players are old, and they will not catch up with other teams, but if they slow it down, they are more talented than all others and they can get better results. Lets see what Kerr will do with this team.

You can always say that, as the majority of us believe in Team USA. However, I want some thrill, so I don't like seeing Team USA dominate every team they face. I want them to struggle a bit but still win the gold in the end. Or maybe I'd like them to fall in the gold match so this time a new country will win. Team USA has already won four straight— isn't it boring?
It already became boring when they revealed the roster of Team USA for the Paris Olympics.
I mean if you're from USA, you don't find it boring because it's your team, and all you want is to win. On the flip side, if you're from another country, you find this kind of one-sided since the USA picked most of their best players to defend their title.

Anyway, many thought that other countries are coping up with the USA already since the recent MVPs in the NBA during the regular season came from other countries, but let's take note that it's a 5v5 match. Having a team with 4 average players followed by 1 MVP will not stand out against 5 all-star players and 5 bench all-star players.

Jalen Brunson renewed his contract with the Knicks for 4 years, 156.5 million dollars.
If Brunson had renewed his contract next year instead of this year, he would have earned 5 years and 269 million dollars. However, Brunson wanted to give his team "financial comfort".
This is how Brunson supported his team for the championship.
Surprising, but with the lack of cap space, he really thinks that he needs to have a pay cut for the betterment of the team.
I'm pretty sure his father also talked with him regarding on this one. I just hope that this pay cut coming from him will translate to championships in the next years. Good move coming from him. I hope that with this pay cut, they can get good if not the best role players that are free agents out there.
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July 12, 2024, 07:03:31 PM
Jalen Brunson renewed his contract with the Knicks for 4 years, 156.5 million dollars.
If Brunson had renewed his contract next year instead of this year, he would have earned 5 years and 269 million dollars. However, Brunson wanted to give his team "financial comfort".
This is how Brunson supported his team for the championship.
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July 12, 2024, 11:41:51 AM
France is said to be the winner for this entire Olympics.  Cheesy
With all of these exhibition matches before the actual, most of them are going all out. I know that they know the drill to avoid further injuries but I don't wish anyone of them to be on that situation just because with all of these exhibition matches.
The current ranking still puts the USA at the top spot. I think I agree with this because this is a better version of Team USA. They sent a younger team last time during the FIBA World Cup and they lost. But now, they have the best players, the veterans, so I think they'll do whatever it takes to win.

LeBron, Curry, Embiid, Booker, and Tatum are just a few names, but these players are already top-caliber. There's no way the USA will lose. I might be hyping it up a bit, but I'm just trying to be honest here with my opinion.
They have veterans and some young calibers as well, they don't just want to pass on to this Olympics and they're eager to take that gold medal.

France is said to be the winner for this entire Olympics.  Cheesy
With all of these exhibition matches before the actual, most of them are going all out. I know that they know the drill to avoid further injuries but I don't wish anyone of them to be on that situation just because with all of these exhibition matches.

It's getting more excited as qualifying teams are now doing their best to represent their countries, I like the challenges being called by those super teams from EU and now Team USA brings their own versions of a super team, working with chemistries and as far the result of that game against Canada I guess they got something and will established that sparks from each other.

France is really a good contender basing from their performance though Canada is also composed of competitive players, we'll see who's going to be the finalist too early to conclude.
I agree that they're all active in bringing glory to their countries and that's because all of them are going to be honored when they go back to their respective countries bringing those colorful medals.
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July 12, 2024, 07:57:16 AM
I guess his defensive productivity is what Clippers goes after with him since they already have shooters. And its good that they decide to retain him since Batum still can give huge contribution for them.
Batum was big last playoffs, Clippers probably saw that and they got him back. he is a great shooter and defender as well, so he just need some good playing time to maximize his talent. Now, the Clippers seemed to be having new player because they get rid of PG already,  so they will be unpredictable next season but I can't expect if they are still a good playoff team as Leonard's health is very big that would dictate their future.

Although he's out of his prime but the guy still can play ball. That's why he still receive a contract since his performance still relevant to the current competitiveness level of NBA. This is great decision Clippers made and they have been make their stars surrounded by reliable role players. If he can still perform so well then maybe he could last for more years.

His numbers gone down so I agree that he already past his prime. (https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/b/batumni01.html).
However, he now have the experience which is very useful on a team that are consistent in the playoffs.

I'm not so excited with the current form of the Clippers but I'm happy with Batum getting a new contract with his old team.
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July 12, 2024, 07:18:53 AM
The Clippers are bringing back Olympic player Nicolas Batum to their fold. Also they got Derrick Jones Jr from the Dallas Mavericks.

https://apnews.com/article/clippers-nicolas-batum-kevin-porter-jr-62e1d41a8246af71e3efc63365283428

So it looks like they will have the veteran again, which was playing good in Clippers but they have to trade him to Sixers to get Harden. But now they have him again and with Jones Jr who also have a good season with the Dallas but obviously they have to offload him as they got Klay Thompson.

Batum is a tough one, he deserve another contract in the NBA. However, the clippers now will never be the same IMO, letting PG is really a big move and since Kawhi has already become an injury prone player, I wonder how they'll become a championship team. Harden is good but he is also declining, in fact he hasn't done so much during his time with Nets and Sixers as they didn't reach the NBA finals. So most likely, if Kawhi would be injured again (God forbid), they'll be entrusting the team on Harden to carry the team, good luck.

It's worth noting that Batum is far from his prime, and he performed pretty poorly last season, but it's good that the Clippers decided to bring him back. Probably, he can still be useful to them. And given that he is 35 years old, I think he will be able to play at least 2-3 more seasons in the NBA at about the same level.

I guess his defensive productivity is what Clippers goes after with him since they already have shooters. And its good that they decide to retain him since Batum still can give huge contribution for them.

Although he's out of his prime but the guy still can play ball. That's why he still receive a contract since his performance still relevant to the current competitiveness level of NBA. This is great decision Clippers made and they have been make their stars surrounded by reliable role players. If he can still perform so well then maybe he could last for more years.
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July 12, 2024, 06:25:37 AM
The Clippers are bringing back Olympic player Nicolas Batum to their fold. Also they got Derrick Jones Jr from the Dallas Mavericks.

https://apnews.com/article/clippers-nicolas-batum-kevin-porter-jr-62e1d41a8246af71e3efc63365283428

So it looks like they will have the veteran again, which was playing good in Clippers but they have to trade him to Sixers to get Harden. But now they have him again and with Jones Jr who also have a good season with the Dallas but obviously they have to offload him as they got Klay Thompson.

Batum is a tough one, he deserve another contract in the NBA. However, the clippers now will never be the same IMO, letting PG is really a big move and since Kawhi has already become an injury prone player, I wonder how they'll become a championship team. Harden is good but he is also declining, in fact he hasn't done so much during his time with Nets and Sixers as they didn't reach the NBA finals. So most likely, if Kawhi would be injured again (God forbid), they'll be entrusting the team on Harden to carry the team, good luck.

I think that's why they are willing to let go of Paul George because they are banking that Harden can still perform quality basketball. And we all know that when Harden is the Alpha he can take the team by himself. So it might be good to have Batum again, as their primary defender and then his clutch shooting.

Not sure about Kawhi though, he has been declining and Toronto is lucky that he was able to bring back a championship for them as I believed that was Kahwi's prime and after that he moved to Clippers, he was not the same as he was injury prone.
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July 12, 2024, 06:01:54 AM
The Clippers are bringing back Olympic player Nicolas Batum to their fold. Also they got Derrick Jones Jr from the Dallas Mavericks.

https://apnews.com/article/clippers-nicolas-batum-kevin-porter-jr-62e1d41a8246af71e3efc63365283428

So it looks like they will have the veteran again, which was playing good in Clippers but they have to trade him to Sixers to get Harden. But now they have him again and with Jones Jr who also have a good season with the Dallas but obviously they have to offload him as they got Klay Thompson.

Batum is a tough one, he deserve another contract in the NBA. However, the clippers now will never be the same IMO, letting PG is really a big move and since Kawhi has already become an injury prone player, I wonder how they'll become a championship team. Harden is good but he is also declining, in fact he hasn't done so much during his time with Nets and Sixers as they didn't reach the NBA finals. So most likely, if Kawhi would be injured again (God forbid), they'll be entrusting the team on Harden to carry the team, good luck.

It's worth noting that Batum is far from his prime, and he performed pretty poorly last season, but it's good that the Clippers decided to bring him back. Probably, he can still be useful to them. And given that he is 35 years old, I think he will be able to play at least 2-3 more seasons in the NBA at about the same level.
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July 12, 2024, 05:16:06 AM
The Clippers are bringing back Olympic player Nicolas Batum to their fold. Also they got Derrick Jones Jr from the Dallas Mavericks.

https://apnews.com/article/clippers-nicolas-batum-kevin-porter-jr-62e1d41a8246af71e3efc63365283428

So it looks like they will have the veteran again, which was playing good in Clippers but they have to trade him to Sixers to get Harden. But now they have him again and with Jones Jr who also have a good season with the Dallas but obviously they have to offload him as they got Klay Thompson.

Batum is a tough one, he deserve another contract in the NBA. However, the clippers now will never be the same IMO, letting PG is really a big move and since Kawhi has already become an injury prone player, I wonder how they'll become a championship team. Harden is good but he is also declining, in fact he hasn't done so much during his time with Nets and Sixers as they didn't reach the NBA finals. So most likely, if Kawhi would be injured again (God forbid), they'll be entrusting the team on Harden to carry the team, good luck.
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July 12, 2024, 04:53:08 AM
This Olympic team will of course win it, but I guarantee you that it will be harder than they think, hell I may even say that they may fail to do it as well, we really don't know what's going to happen. We should realize that things aren't as easy as it looks, and we could potentially see them do something different, maybe it is going to be harder.

I think the best way to go about this situation would be just realize that they could just calm down and play slower, because if they want to play faster, most of these players are old, and they will not catch up with other teams, but if they slow it down, they are more talented than all others and they can get better results. Lets see what Kerr will do with this team.
Yes, it will be. For the past 20 years, they have been having some trouble with other countries like Spain, Lithuania, and more. Now, it's Germany, France, the Greeks, the Aussies, and Canada, and they cannot underestimate the Serbian team too. It's not about having superstars, for them it's a fight for their country and the chemistry is stronger when you have one goal.

They got used to playing it fast because of the mindset that other teams are slower than them. It's different now, more countries are better and I think the fact that most players who are dominating the NBA are international players, they should be careful with them too.
The USA team will be the favorite without any doubt but I would be glad to put some money on other countries and take the risk. Cheesy
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July 12, 2024, 04:38:44 AM
This Olympic team will of course win it, but I guarantee you that it will be harder than they think, hell I may even say that they may fail to do it as well, we really don't know what's going to happen. We should realize that things aren't as easy as it looks, and we could potentially see them do something different, maybe it is going to be harder.

I think the best way to go about this situation would be just realize that they could just calm down and play slower, because if they want to play faster, most of these players are old, and they will not catch up with other teams, but if they slow it down, they are more talented than all others and they can get better results. Lets see what Kerr will do with this team.

Yes, they might be the favorite again, but not gonna be easy, I still remember when Kobe was playing for the team, they are playing against Spain and it was told by Lebron and DWade and others that he will go and screen Pau Gasol his team mate in the Los Angeles Lakers and Kobe did fight that pick and floor Gasol to set the tone of that game.

And it was really close and everyone in the US team is nervous but not Kobe, as he hit that 3 point shot to silence the crowd. But this time it could be Steph or Lebron or even the ANT man that might carry the load for the US team to win another gold medal.
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July 12, 2024, 04:00:50 AM
The Clippers are bringing back Olympic player Nicolas Batum to their fold. Also they got Derrick Jones Jr from the Dallas Mavericks.

https://apnews.com/article/clippers-nicolas-batum-kevin-porter-jr-62e1d41a8246af71e3efc63365283428

So it looks like they will have the veteran again, which was playing good in Clippers but they have to trade him to Sixers to get Harden. But now they have him again and with Jones Jr who also have a good season with the Dallas but obviously they have to offload him as they got Klay Thompson.
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July 12, 2024, 03:59:10 AM
Jaylen Brown said that Nike and its lobby were the reason why he was not selected for the US national team.
Jaylen Brown's last tweets he wrote;
@nike this what we doing?
Im not afraid of you or your resources
It looks like it's going to get messy.

What everyone has been patiently waiting for has happened,
Curry ➡️ LeBron alley-oop.
Now we've seen that too.

Nah, I don't think it's going to be messy, they already have a solid team base on their exhibition games against Canada and I don't think that this issue is going to affect them, it's true that Jaylen Brown being the MVP could be at least included in the roster, but they already made the decision and chooses his team mate.

As for the alley-oop yeah, it could be historic and if you asked Curry who's player that he is excited to play with in this team, it's Lebron James. At least though we will see this two play along side even for a short period of time as a member of the USA Basketball Olympic team.

I think what he mean is the feud between JB and Nike since he's stating the reason that Nike maybe interfere that's why he didn't get a spot. But remember that Steph is with Under Armour also Edwards is with adidas so I guess he made that accusation because he's frustrated with current happening and his ego has been hit since he is the MVP but he got drop on USA national team.

But I guess they are just doing a good decision with current player they select so I guess JB should move on and just try his luck next season since maybe he will encounter more deeper problem if he say something more about it.

Also yeah many got amaze for that play and it shows how lethal it could be if Curry and James would play together in a team. That is just a snapshot and both of them work really so well.
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July 12, 2024, 03:40:10 AM
This Olympic team will of course win it, but I guarantee you that it will be harder than they think, hell I may even say that they may fail to do it as well, we really don't know what's going to happen. We should realize that things aren't as easy as it looks, and we could potentially see them do something different, maybe it is going to be harder.

I think the best way to go about this situation would be just realize that they could just calm down and play slower, because if they want to play faster, most of these players are old, and they will not catch up with other teams, but if they slow it down, they are more talented than all others and they can get better results. Lets see what Kerr will do with this team.

You can always say that, as the majority of us believe in Team USA. However, I want some thrill, so I don't like seeing Team USA dominate every team they face. I want them to struggle a bit but still win the gold in the end. Or maybe I'd like them to fall in the gold match so this time a new country will win. Team USA has already won four straight— isn't it boring?

Check out the odds if you feel like betting.
https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/5624693/2024/07/08/olympic-basketball-odds-team-usa/
If that is the case then the US team should not be complacent at all as there are lot of good teams that are competing. Nevertheless, we all know that they have suffered major setbacks in international games as well and so they send their best in the Olympics because this is like the pinnacle of basketball and there will be no questioning if the won the gold again and be called the greatest basketball nation. Yeah, other teams might want to pull an upset, we have seen this in the last 4 Olympics but so far USA is really ready for all incoming teams and that they are going to defend their crown with Lebron and Steph, now the leader of the team. They don't want to have that distinction of losing their successive runs. Teams are going to adjust to them, not the other way around.
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July 12, 2024, 03:34:16 AM
This Olympic team will of course win it, but I guarantee you that it will be harder than they think, hell I may even say that they may fail to do it as well, we really don't know what's going to happen. We should realize that things aren't as easy as it looks, and we could potentially see them do something different, maybe it is going to be harder.

I think the best way to go about this situation would be just realize that they could just calm down and play slower, because if they want to play faster, most of these players are old, and they will not catch up with other teams, but if they slow it down, they are more talented than all others and they can get better results. Lets see what Kerr will do with this team.

In terms of individual talents yes I agree with your statement that they are more talented compared to whoever opponents that they'll going to face but speed wise younger players with that determination to win might give them a hard time, it's not an easy competition as internationally those squads are also composed of talented athletes who deserve playing and representing thier flags.

Let see if what adjustments and what other playing system will coach Kerr use  for team US.
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