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October 21, 2024, 09:50:19 PM
I just read that Bronny's 17 point performance the other day was the highest scoring outing in the preseason by a 55th+ pick in the last 15 years.  Maybe not the most impressive stat, but it shows that Bronny might actually deserve to be where he's at.  We'll see when the season starts I guess, but for going as far down as he did in the draft he has changed the conversation with that 17 point performance.

It would seem that 17 points with such a poor field goal percentage would not surprise anyone, but still, we should give Bronny credit because no one expected such a performance from him. This shows that he is gradually gaining experience and improving his skills, so his future in the NBA isn't quite as hopeless as it may have seemed at first. But at the same time, we shouldn't expect that Bronny will be able to repeat the path of Isaiah Thomas, who was selected with the 60th draft pick.

Still a long way to go for Bronny, and he knows that every body is watching his career, or even every games he played and so he is willing to give that body of him in the game. And so you can see that he has flashes of his father, although he is a big smaller, but he can play defense and read it just like his father.

So still this early, we can say all we want against his and he knows that. The only thing he can do so shut down his detractors is to play really hard, not just in scoring, but also playing tough defense so that he can be given more time by the new coach JJ Redick.
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October 21, 2024, 09:16:23 PM
I just read that Bronny's 17 point performance the other day was the highest scoring outing in the preseason by a 55th+ pick in the last 15 years.  Maybe not the most impressive stat, but it shows that Bronny might actually deserve to be where he's at.  We'll see when the season starts I guess, but for going as far down as he did in the draft he has changed the conversation with that 17 point performance.

It would seem that 17 points with such a poor field goal percentage would not surprise anyone, but still, we should give Bronny credit because no one expected such a performance from him. This shows that he is gradually gaining experience and improving his skills, so his future in the NBA isn't quite as hopeless as it may have seemed at first. But at the same time, we shouldn't expect that Bronny will be able to repeat the path of Isaiah Thomas, who was selected with the 60th draft pick.
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October 21, 2024, 06:38:29 PM
I just read that Bronny's 17 point performance the other day was the highest scoring outing in the preseason by a 55th+ pick in the last 15 years.  Maybe not the most impressive stat, but it shows that Bronny might actually deserve to be where he's at.  We'll see when the season starts I guess, but for going as far down as he did in the draft he has changed the conversation with that 17 point performance.
Whether people will argue if he deserves the spot or not, no one can do anything anymore with that because he's already signed.

It's too early to tell but that was an impressive game from him. What I think for now is his teammate Dalton that even if he gets an impressive plays for this preseason, I doubt that he'll get more playing time especially when he's with Lebron.

Whilst for Bronny, he'd sure get more playing time than him.

Well I guess Lakers is not to dumb to place Bronny if he cannot perform well since somehow they need to win rather than babysit him. For sure they are thinking about giving some good minutes for Dalton since they provably how the young guy perform.

Everything will be in balance since for sure that Lakers management don't want to lose since this is bad for their franchise. But who knows maybe in Lakers Bronny could learn a lot and he became a good player just like his father then he get good role from this team.
Bronny can play. I don't know why some people hate him, lol. For sure it's because of his father?
About the franchise, I agree with it, they will not risk their franchise just for Bronny like for the fame only because they know how controversial right on this father and son duo, especially it's Lebron James. It's still early to judge.

Obviously, he can play just like the rest of 54th pick before him. The argument though is that he is not NBA ready and that Lebron James with his influence from the Lakers management, wanted them to pick up him so that they can play together and make history.

How about him no scoring that much when they've lost the Suns? If I'm not mistaken, he only got 4 points.

And then you can see Booker reacting to him and saying that he is not that good as compare to his father.
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October 21, 2024, 06:26:19 PM
I just read that Bronny's 17 point performance the other day was the highest scoring outing in the preseason by a 55th+ pick in the last 15 years.  Maybe not the most impressive stat, but it shows that Bronny might actually deserve to be where he's at.  We'll see when the season starts I guess, but for going as far down as he did in the draft he has changed the conversation with that 17 point performance.
Whether people will argue if he deserves the spot or not, no one can do anything anymore with that because he's already signed.

It's too early to tell but that was an impressive game from him. What I think for now is his teammate Dalton that even if he gets an impressive plays for this preseason, I doubt that he'll get more playing time especially when he's with Lebron.

Whilst for Bronny, he'd sure get more playing time than him.

Well I guess Lakers is not to dumb to place Bronny if he cannot perform well since somehow they need to win rather than babysit him. For sure they are thinking about giving some good minutes for Dalton since they provably how the young guy perform.

Everything will be in balance since for sure that Lakers management don't want to lose since this is bad for their franchise. But who knows maybe in Lakers Bronny could learn a lot and he became a good player just like his father then he get good role from this team.
Well, you don't underestimate the influence of his dad. But we'll see how Dalton will be given some minutes, to be honest he's more promising.

I wish the team all the best as they're always one of the crowd favorites and with their lineup doesn't seem to be bumped unlike the others. I hope to see them go in the playoffs again and reach further with this roster.
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October 21, 2024, 06:11:45 PM
I just read that Bronny's 17 point performance the other day was the highest scoring outing in the preseason by a 55th+ pick in the last 15 years.  Maybe not the most impressive stat, but it shows that Bronny might actually deserve to be where he's at.  We'll see when the season starts I guess, but for going as far down as he did in the draft he has changed the conversation with that 17 point performance.
Whether people will argue if he deserves the spot or not, no one can do anything anymore with that because he's already signed.

It's too early to tell but that was an impressive game from him. What I think for now is his teammate Dalton that even if he gets an impressive plays for this preseason, I doubt that he'll get more playing time especially when he's with Lebron.

Whilst for Bronny, he'd sure get more playing time than him.

Well I guess Lakers is not to dumb to place Bronny if he cannot perform well since somehow they need to win rather than babysit him. For sure they are thinking about giving some good minutes for Dalton since they provably how the young guy perform.

Everything will be in balance since for sure that Lakers management don't want to lose since this is bad for their franchise. But who knows maybe in Lakers Bronny could learn a lot and he became a good player just like his father then he get good role from this team.
Bronny can play. I don't know why some people hate him, lol. For sure it's because of his father?
About the franchise, I agree with it, they will not risk their franchise just for Bronny like for the fame only because they know how controversial right on this father and son duo, especially it's Lebron James. It's still early to judge.
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October 21, 2024, 05:36:13 PM
I just read that Bronny's 17 point performance the other day was the highest scoring outing in the preseason by a 55th+ pick in the last 15 years.  Maybe not the most impressive stat, but it shows that Bronny might actually deserve to be where he's at.  We'll see when the season starts I guess, but for going as far down as he did in the draft he has changed the conversation with that 17 point performance.
Whether people will argue if he deserves the spot or not, no one can do anything anymore with that because he's already signed.

It's too early to tell but that was an impressive game from him. What I think for now is his teammate Dalton that even if he gets an impressive plays for this preseason, I doubt that he'll get more playing time especially when he's with Lebron.

Whilst for Bronny, he'd sure get more playing time than him.

Well I guess Lakers is not to dumb to place Bronny if he cannot perform well since somehow they need to win rather than babysit him. For sure they are thinking about giving some good minutes for Dalton since they provably how the young guy perform.

Everything will be in balance since for sure that Lakers management don't want to lose since this is bad for their franchise. But who knows maybe in Lakers Bronny could learn a lot and he became a good player just like his father then he get good role from this team.
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October 21, 2024, 04:13:11 PM
I just read that Bronny's 17 point performance the other day was the highest scoring outing in the preseason by a 55th+ pick in the last 15 years.  Maybe not the most impressive stat, but it shows that Bronny might actually deserve to be where he's at.  We'll see when the season starts I guess, but for going as far down as he did in the draft he has changed the conversation with that 17 point performance.
Whether people will argue if he deserves the spot or not, no one can do anything anymore with that because he's already signed.

It's too early to tell but that was an impressive game from him. What I think for now is his teammate Dalton that even if he gets an impressive plays for this preseason, I doubt that he'll get more playing time especially when he's with Lebron.

Whilst for Bronny, he'd sure get more playing time than him.
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October 21, 2024, 09:39:26 AM
I just read that Bronny's 17 point performance the other day was the highest scoring outing in the preseason by a 55th+ pick in the last 15 years.  Maybe not the most impressive stat, but it shows that Bronny might actually deserve to be where he's at.  We'll see when the season starts I guess, but for going as far down as he did in the draft he has changed the conversation with that 17 point performance.
In a game where they were fully dominated, that stat really doesn’t mean much because they weren’t playing any defense. It would’ve been interesting if they somehow made the game close, but that wasn’t the case, and Bronny’s success came during a blowout loss.

I think this is different for a player that is still rookie on NBA. Even a blow out game is still important for Rookie since they are playing against an NBA caliber not college players anymore so making a shot against these players is different against when you are on college.

It gives confidence top if you finally have something good on your stats sheet since it’s still a score and recorded on his preseason data.

People is comparing him already to veteran NBA player while he is just a rookie.
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October 21, 2024, 09:33:30 AM
I just read that Bronny's 17 point performance the other day was the highest scoring outing in the preseason by a 55th+ pick in the last 15 years.  Maybe not the most impressive stat, but it shows that Bronny might actually deserve to be where he's at.  We'll see when the season starts I guess, but for going as far down as he did in the draft he has changed the conversation with that 17 point performance.
In a game where they were fully dominated, that stat really doesn’t mean much because they weren’t playing any defense. It would’ve been interesting if they somehow made the game close, but that wasn’t the case, and Bronny’s success came during a blowout loss.
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October 21, 2024, 08:35:49 AM
I just read that Bronny's 17 point performance the other day was the highest scoring outing in the preseason by a 55th+ pick in the last 15 years.  Maybe not the most impressive stat, but it shows that Bronny might actually deserve to be where he's at.  We'll see when the season starts I guess, but for going as far down as he did in the draft he has changed the conversation with that 17 point performance.
One game isn't enough for a player to be called "deserving" especially if he isn't consistent. One player can score 50 points and then score 2 points in the following games.

Despite the 17-point performance against the Warriors, this doesn't change the fact that he doesn't deserve to be in the NBA, but... he has his dad that will help him stay and knowing how powerful Le-GM is, he will do everything to let his son stay in the league. It's quite funny how the media is talking about this, and nobody's talking about Knecht's monstrous performance against Phoenix. I'm not saying that nobody's talking about it, but there are way more people talking about the 17-point performance of Bronny James than Knecht's 30+ point game and carried his team like he's, their all-star.

No offense from Bronny, but I don't see any significant thing about him and there might be some that might agree with me on this one. Like you said though, let's see how he will be playing during the regular season because 5 pre-season games aren't enough for a player to be judged IMO.
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But we appreciate players who do this kind of pay cut, I mean they are not selfish likes others who just wanted to have a good pay and continue to play despite having a bad performance or even not playing. And it will be good for Aaron to stay with the team though that give him his first ring and give him a chance to evolved as a two way player.
Well, if having a pay cut would mean new title for them then money doesn't matter to them. There are players who care to win the title more than the money that they can get, and vice-versa and like you said, I appreciate them as well. I hope that Gordon will be as good as he is when they won a title and at the same time, accept a pay cut if needed for the betterment of the team.
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October 21, 2024, 07:44:46 AM
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https://bleacherreport.com/articles/10139947-nba-rumors-aaron-gordon-wont-get-150m-max-contract-offer-from-nugget

So it means that the Nuggets wanted to retain him, however, they don't want to give him the possible max contract. And so if this is the case then we might see another part of the core team of Nuggets who win their NBA ring might not be with team. He have seen, KCP is the latest of the Nuggets that decided to move out, so maybe Gordon will be the next one.

In any case, still plenty of time for him to show his worth in this coming season. Worse case scenario is that if the Nuggets won't make it to the finals, just maybe they will lose another great player in their team. Gordon has evolved into a high flyer to a veteran and a great defender and then he can still score if needed specially in clutch. Two years still though in his contract and by that time, maybe it's a different Nugget team or Gordon started to decline as well.
The best example for this one is Jalen Brunson. He accepted a pay cut of around $110 Million more or less just to have some cap space to acquire more and better players. I hope more players will be like him especially now that the new CBA rule is really a problem especially for those who are paying more than what's intended.

In one of the interviews, Gordon said that he will do everything just to give Westbrook a ring. Well, both of them have 2 years left on their contract still, but if he wants to fulfill it then doing it in Denver is his best option unless the team decided to trade Westbrook. As for the max contract, I'm expecting something positive like accepting a pay cut just to stay with the team because I don't want him to not be with them especially, we've seen how important his role is for the team. Now if he will try to find another team just because he wants the max then that's where the problem starts for the team because Jokic and Murray will be lacking reliable role players.

Well, I believe that he will accept a pay cut if he believes that the team can still win one more title.

It will still have to depend on Gordon's performance for the next two years, if he is willing to have a pay-cut then good for the Nuggets. But if his play declined and not be as valuable as he used to be then maybe the Nuggets might cut him out.

But we appreciate players who do this kind of pay cut, I mean they are not selfish likes others who just wanted to have a good pay and continue to play despite having a bad performance or even not playing. And it will be good for Aaron to stay with the team though that give him his first ring and give him a chance to evolved as a two way player.
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October 21, 2024, 06:41:58 AM
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The Denver Nuggets reportedly aren't interested in paying forward Aaron Gordon a maximum contract value of four years and $150 million during extension negotiations.

ESPN's Brian Windhorst said on Friday's episode of The Hoop Collective that the Nuggets are "hopeful" to sign Gordon to a new deal below the $150 million that he's eligible to receive (h/t RealGM).

Gordon still has two years remaining on his current contract, which includes a $22.8 million player option for the 2025-26 season.

A potential four-year, $150 million contract would be worth $37.5 million per year. If the maximum extension is signed and kicks in after his current deal, Gordon's average annual salary would become the ninth-highest among power forwards in the NBA during the 2026-27 season

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/10139947-nba-rumors-aaron-gordon-wont-get-150m-max-contract-offer-from-nugget

So it means that the Nuggets wanted to retain him, however, they don't want to give him the possible max contract. And so if this is the case then we might see another part of the core team of Nuggets who win their NBA ring might not be with team. He have seen, KCP is the latest of the Nuggets that decided to move out, so maybe Gordon will be the next one.

In any case, still plenty of time for him to show his worth in this coming season. Worse case scenario is that if the Nuggets won't make it to the finals, just maybe they will lose another great player in their team. Gordon has evolved into a high flyer to a veteran and a great defender and then he can still score if needed specially in clutch. Two years still though in his contract and by that time, maybe it's a different Nugget team or Gordon started to decline as well.
They are packed with high-paid players now because of the last contract with Jamal Murray. Luxury tax will be a big pain in the ass if they will give Aaron Gordon such a huge amount. They are saying that now not maybe because they saw less value in Gordon but I think they are just trying to not go way beyond the salary cap while Gordon still has a contract with him. They still have a year so there's no rush although I believe some players can be boosted when they are given the high amount of payment.
Well, I am sure Jamal Murray will play harder after his new big contract but the Nuggets still need some pieces that will strengthen their bench. No disrespect to AG but it's possible that the Nuggets are also saving the money to pull more roleplayers and make them a champion again.
Truly, the value of Gordon now is better thanks to their championship and we saw how he can easily create chemistry with great passers like Jokic and I don't doubt that many teams will be delighted to sign him up.
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October 21, 2024, 05:21:22 AM
I just read that Bronny's 17 point performance the other day was the highest scoring outing in the preseason by a 55th+ pick in the last 15 years.  Maybe not the most impressive stat, but it shows that Bronny might actually deserve to be where he's at.  We'll see when the season starts I guess, but for going as far down as he did in the draft he has changed the conversation with that 17 point performance.

Lol, this just another statistics for him, he really need to show us something if he really wanted to carved his name as not only the some of Lebron James. So I'm not buying that 17 points, sorry. Not a hater, but media has to find a way to sensationalized what Bronny will do. What's next? the most turn-over or the most 3 point shoot made by a 55th pick?

And if we look at the numbers, how about Tom Brady 100th++ pick but then becomes the GOAT?
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October 21, 2024, 01:27:20 AM
I just read that Bronny's 17 point performance the other day was the highest scoring outing in the preseason by a 55th+ pick in the last 15 years.  Maybe not the most impressive stat, but it shows that Bronny might actually deserve to be where he's at.  We'll see when the season starts I guess, but for going as far down as he did in the draft he has changed the conversation with that 17 point performance.

Funny how the media is coming up with yet more "statistics" to make Bronny look good.
And well, 1 thing though. Normally a number 55 pick doesn't start in a preseason game and logs 35 minutes of playing time, even in the last game. He played the 2nd most minutes of all Lakers in this one.
It's not THAT hard to get 17 points in 35min as a starter, especially in a blowout that is even less serious than a regular preseason game, and mostly against the bench of the opposing team. LA just played an 8 man rotation so between 8 players to get shots you have to make something with 35min on the field. By the way, they lost by almost 60 points.  Shocked

Anyway, I don't think that this performance changes anything about his perception. Even in his best game he just shot 7/17 with 1/5 from 3, not really impressive.
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October 20, 2024, 07:54:03 PM
I just read that Bronny's 17 point performance the other day was the highest scoring outing in the preseason by a 55th+ pick in the last 15 years.  Maybe not the most impressive stat, but it shows that Bronny might actually deserve to be where he's at.  We'll see when the season starts I guess, but for going as far down as he did in the draft he has changed the conversation with that 17 point performance.
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October 20, 2024, 06:56:02 PM
Yeah, Ant is a candidate for it and IIRC last season SGA was on the line for the MVP but he's a Canadian though.

If it becomes Wemby for this year, then another year of having an MVP that's not an American but we'll see, it seems that season is really buffed for most teams.

Well becoming MVP also gets a bit harder since last season since you have to play at least 65 games to be eligible for any award. That means not a lot of sitting out for rest and injury.
That opens the door for the younger generation actually since they don't have to watch out for their bodies as much as the veteran players. Players like Wemby, Any, Luka, SGA, Jason Tatum and so on, who are the faces of the league have an advantage there.
I like Luka now, only problem is he is sharing the floor with Kyrie, so his numbers are not as dominant as in the time without him. But if the Mavs gets a good season I wouldn't be surprised if he is one of the MVP frontrunners this season. I mean it surely is time for him!
You're right about these young ones, they're more likely to get it this time than the veterans but still, everyone can be a candidate for this season for most team's superstars.

I also like Luka and now that you've mentioned him with Kyrie. Don't forget that they've got Klay Thompson as well where scoring will also be shared to him.

During the playoffs up to the conference finals and the finals, Luka was impressive.
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October 20, 2024, 06:48:09 PM
Yuki Kawamura signed a two-way deal with the Memphis Grizzlies.
(https://www.nba.com/grizzlies/news/grizzlies-promote-yuki-kawamura-to-two-way-contract)
Congrats to him, proud asian. LOL.
It's because that our countrymen(Kai Sotto) that used to be his teammate in the BLeague in Japan was also a great tandem of his.
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October 20, 2024, 03:59:40 PM
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https://bleacherreport.com/articles/10139947-nba-rumors-aaron-gordon-wont-get-150m-max-contract-offer-from-nugget

So it means that the Nuggets wanted to retain him, however, they don't want to give him the possible max contract. And so if this is the case then we might see another part of the core team of Nuggets who win their NBA ring might not be with team. He have seen, KCP is the latest of the Nuggets that decided to move out, so maybe Gordon will be the next one.

In any case, still plenty of time for him to show his worth in this coming season. Worse case scenario is that if the Nuggets won't make it to the finals, just maybe they will lose another great player in their team. Gordon has evolved into a high flyer to a veteran and a great defender and then he can still score if needed specially in clutch. Two years still though in his contract and by that time, maybe it's a different Nugget team or Gordon started to decline as well.
The best example for this one is Jalen Brunson. He accepted a pay cut of around $110 Million more or less just to have some cap space to acquire more and better players. I hope more players will be like him especially now that the new CBA rule is really a problem especially for those who are paying more than what's intended.

In one of the interviews, Gordon said that he will do everything just to give Westbrook a ring. Well, both of them have 2 years left on their contract still, but if he wants to fulfill it then doing it in Denver is his best option unless the team decided to trade Westbrook. As for the max contract, I'm expecting something positive like accepting a pay cut just to stay with the team because I don't want him to not be with them especially, we've seen how important his role is for the team. Now if he will try to find another team just because he wants the max then that's where the problem starts for the team because Jokic and Murray will be lacking reliable role players.

Well, I believe that he will accept a pay cut if he believes that the team can still win one more title.
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October 20, 2024, 02:45:46 AM
Shams is reporting that Yuki Kawamura has earned himself a contract with the Grizzlies.  I love to see this.  He has been balling out in the preseason so far and leaving us with a ton of highlights.  I'm looking forward to seeing what he can do in the league this year when competition heats up a bit.

“The Memphis Grizzlies are signing Japanese guard Yuki Kawamura to a two-way NBA contract, sources tell ESPN. The 5-foot-8 Kawamura averaged 3.4 points, 4.2 assists and 15.1 minutes in preseason, leading Grizzlies with 21 total assists, and earned a roster spot.”

Yeah, it's a two way contract, so at least he will be in the roster and be eligible to play in at least 50 games. So he might be a good reserved in the guard position and who knows, maybe given time to play his first NBA game. And the most important thing is that he will be paid, albeit it's going to be a flat rate that is equal to half of the league’s minimum salary.

So those who are sign in this kind of contract is,

a. Quincy Olivari - who had a good pre-season game with the Lakers
b. Marc McClung - back to back Slam Dunk champion.

But Landry Shamet and former No. 7 pick Killian Hayes has been waived because of injuries.
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October 20, 2024, 02:05:41 AM
Bronny James had himself a game today.  Finally he got to silence some haters.  He put up 17 points, 4 rebounds, 3 steals and a block.  He had some decent highlights too.  A pretty slick layup between two defenders (while he had two open guys on the wings) and he also caught an alley oop.  I still don't see him getting a lot of minutes during the year if he even stays on the squad, but it's nice to know he is capable of putting in some good NBA minutes for the Lakers.  Hopefully he keeps getting better as he gets more comfortable out there.
Hopefully, and since his father is there I don't think he will be lazy to train so the chances of getting better in the NBA is there and he can learn a lot of wise techniques from the veterans of the Lakers team.
Even Magic Johnson has something to say about his performance.
https://x.com/MagicJohnson/status/1847800729525784853

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I believe after a lot of hard work this season, he’ll definitely be in the Lakers’ rotation and playing heavy minutes.
I believe so too. I hate that the media keeps on focusing on what is happening to him, his performance, and his failures but they will just have to let the guy do his work and very soon he might become one of the stars of the NBA. He is young and definitely have a lot of room for improvement and considering he is in a good team right now, there will be more good things that will happen and maybe soon he will get those minutes that the fans wanted.

Preseason is over, this is where it will all get serious.
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