Topic: 2019 NBA Pre-Season - page 76. (Read 915053 times)

There is 1 question to this one.
- Are both Milwaukee and Dallas willing to give up their main superstar just to get draft picks and some role players?

Take note that both Mavericks and Bucks aren't a bottom-tier team and they are competing for the title. I'm pretty sure that they will not give it up. The Lakers can free up space to get another superstar, but it will not either the 2 of them. They can get other potential superstars from other bottom tier team, but they will not get neither Luka or Giannis. Now let's think that you're the one managing the Lakers, can you please share a mock trade proposal then? One of the Mavericks-Lakers and another for Bucks-Lakers. Or it will be a 3-team trade?

With Woj out already, Shams has all the floor to be in the position where Woj has for a very long time. I don't also think that Shams will be the only one that's on the top, but I believe there will be another reporter there that will be against him. Like what he did with Woj back when he was still starting. As for Woj's sudden retirement, it's shocking TBH especially we know how long he has been in ESPN, but it is what it is.

I’m definitely an NBA fan. It is the only sport I follow really and the only sport I really miss playing competitively. NBA Central posted that Shams’ contract with The Atlantic expires this year so it’s even better for Shame than I thought. Dude is going to get himself a huge payday and be the undisputed King of NBA Insider information.

https://x.com/thedunkcentral/status/1836421206762836049

I agree, he's better to stay with the Miami Heat. It's a good team and is the kryptonite of Boston Celtics.

This is just sad. It's surprising that Woj is set to retire. We still have Shams though but if the rumors or news are coming from Woj, they're more accurate.

You're really an NBA fan since you know about these things. Well, they're the most reliable sources for NBA news where you can get information about NBA rumors. He's been in the NBA news industry for a long time, but the new job he moved to is still related to the NBA basketball. If things don't go well with his new job, for sure Woj will definitely consider going back to his old job at ESPN. For now its time to shine for Shams. lol

^ Just plain bad for the NBA rumor mill. This thread will just have to start doing a better job at breaking and distributing news to the masses now that our main source of breaking news in the NBA is no longer doing it. The only real winner in this situation (besides Woj) is Shams, who is now the undisputed King of NBA rumors.

Ouch!
I am always looking at Woj whenever I need an updated report about the NBA and in fact, I even bookmarked his page just so I could easily go directly to it with just a simple type of his 3 letter abbreviated name.

It's sad that the NBA just lost another knight who keeps the fans entertained with his amazing reports and updates about everything that is happening inside the NBA.
Truly, with him gone and Inside the NBA of TNT, I don't even know what to watch next after games and where to find my NBA news with some fun in it. I don't like SAS, his voice makes my ears sore.

Anyway, I think he did it before the season started so that everyone will know that there's nothing to expect on his page anymore. I am glad for him, but I am kind of sad.

FYI, this is his new job. https://www.espn.ph/nba/story/_/id/41313868/adrian-wojnarowski-retires-espn-joins-st-bonaventure

I didn’t see this coming. Woj has announced his retirement. The guy who breaks every story in the NBA is hanging up his spurs. Another blow for the NBA it seems. With the TNT crew on their last season and no more Woj, the NBA is going to look a lot different in the near future. Read his statement here: https://x.com/wojespn/status/1836414909829034140

They are super team in papers but they didn't meet the expectation of people since Lillard addition to Bucks didn't bring them any good result since they fell into more worse situation. Bucks fans say that they commit a mistake for trading Jrue Holiday and Allen because those guys are proven helpful for their team. But I think those trades scenarios plus hiring new coach to manage their team is the reason of their inconsistency. But let see this season if they get over with it and create solid chemistry since somehow Bucks still a strong team.  If Lillard will be consistent and Giannis will remain a monster in paint then maybe this will help them to go further.

Rivers just need to know how to work well their talented piece also players would also trust on the new system they are executing so that everything will fall in good shape with them.

I don't know if you can consider the Bucks as super team, it is still Giannis only, and then we have Lillard, but he has been very inconsistent as well and then Middleton, his game has gone down since Lillard join the team as they are almost in the exact position. And I do agree that if they had a bad season again, they could break up and Giannis seeking another great team to win another ring.

Or perhaps there are a lot of good players in the league today as compare to different era's. Although if you look at MJ's era, there are a lot of super teams as well, it's that they are in the wrong era as MJ took over the 90's.

But they’ve already built a super team, there’s no need for him to join on other team. With Lillard and Middleton alongside him, they’re already stacked. I’m not sure what their fate will be next season, but if they fail again, it’s likely their lineup will be demolish in the coming season.

Forget about the super team era, things are different now. Teams improve through chemistry, like we’ve seen with the Nuggets (who won their first championship), the Wolves (surprising the Suns' super team), and even the Mavericks, who went to the Finals. I like this current trend more, compared to before when super teams dominated and we knew there was always one team in the East and West, like the Cavaliers and Warriors, with an 80% chance of winning.

Maybe DLo or Austin Reaves or or Rui Hachimura future draft picks might be the best that they can offer if they wanted to pursue either of the players. However, this era has started to be another superstars joining another team to make a super team.

However, it's been like the Heat with Lebron and Dwade and Bosh and then we have KD joining the already loaded team in Warriors back them to win a back to back ring. Giannis though said in the past that he doesn't want to join to form a super team, if I'm not mistaken.

Their players have low trading value and its hard for them to move players since they are been affected by last conference performance. If they offer AD or Lebron to other team well provably  that he can get high caliber player in return, but I guess Lakers don't want this trade to happen since Bron have huge market value for their team in terms of marketing and other stuff. While AD is valuable contributor for their team so I guess the only solution to get a good players is thru free agency. Since maybe they can get good role players there. I also don't think that Mavs would trade Doncic he's so valuable piece for them and their team would provably keep him for good. Maybe they have chance to acquire Giannis since there's rumor that he want to leave Bucks. He is so competitive and if Bucks will be at losing streak or he's upset with their campaign then maybe this trade might possible to happen. But let see if they can give up Bron or AD if this possible trade will happen.

The Lakers don't have anyone (except LeBron and AD) to offer in a trade for Doncic or Giannis, and draft picks would clearly be an insufficient asset for such trades. And honestly, I don't think there are any scenarios where the Mavs would want to trade Doncic, or the Bucks would want to trade Giannis. By the way, Doncic is under contract for 3 more seasons, and I think the Mavs will offer him a huge extension in his last season. Same with Giannis.

It's a moot point because Jimmy isn't a free agent he can't just pack up and go to the Warriors.  That's all between general managers.  Next year, completely different story but Jimmy is up there too why would he join an aging team that is going the wrong way towards a championship?  Just playing with steph isn't good enough to want to go. 

If I’m managing the Lakers I wouldn’t rush to make any moves while LeBron is still on the roster. They need to be looking at ways to unwind this current team and make room for Luka Doncic. They need to stack draft picks and align contracts to expire. With the possibility of being left without LeBron or AD in another 2 years, a superstar like Luka or Giannis needs to be their only focus.

Better to go to the team where chances of winning a chip is more possible since the offer might be still the same its better to play with competitive team instead of going a team where there's no chance, in terms of Jimmy he's not getting any younger and with those minor injuries the chance is slim if he's going to a non competitive squad, best to stay with Miami or aim for the team where he can his talents and win a ring.

Warriors would make more sense for Butler than Lakers if you ask me, he would be playing with Curry-Hield-Butler-Draymond four at the start and that could honestly be a team that could go for a title if the system fits. Not saying that they would win it all, but I think it's clear that they would have some good time doing something like that, it should be considered. Steve Kerr isn't a bad coach neither, he could make that team work together very well and I believe that they have a good chance as well.

In the end, it all depends on if Miami wants to trade him or not, and I haven't seen anything from the team that shows that they want to trade him, there could be some interest from other teams and that's fine but just because other teams wants him, doesn't mean that he is going to be getting that trade, he will probably end up staying at Miami in the end. We should consider that as a possibility and I believe that it looks like Butler will be there for a long time.

It will take time for teams like Detroit to built a championship roster and he'll never know the budget that they can do. That's why like what KD did, these stars can go to the teams they think will help them as well as they're going to give each of them a chip.
Both win-win for players and teams that are looking the same.

^ Giannis to Dallas doesn’t seem possible to me. I don’t see why he would make that move. I think Dallas has themselves a problem because Luka is rumored to be heading to the Lakers and they built the team around him. The only team I want to see Giannis play for is the Warriors. I think Steph and Giannis would be a legendary pairing.

TBH, I don't think that the Warriors will give that much young and talented player just to get Butler.

Getting Butler will not make them a championship caliber team especially when they will be giving Kuminga and other young stars as an exchange. What Butler wants right now is money that's why he's hinting of him going to the Brooklyn as well because he knows that the Nets have a very huge cap space, enough for him to get a huge contract still. Butler to the Lakers will have more sense than going to the Warriors. Well, what I believe is that, Butler will stay with Miami this season and will try to opt out on his final year of his contract to explore.

Miami might not be a championship caliber team as of this moment, but I think they can still compete in the playoffs especially now that they also have Jacquez Jr.

He said it already a few years ago that if the Bucks' management will not do something to improve the team, he will be going out of Milwaukee. Well, they made a move by getting Damian Lillard, but what they got is a complete failure "ONCE AGAIN".

Giannis to Dallas? Hmmm it seems possible, only if the Mavericks have cap space, but they don't have as of this moment. If the Mavericks will pursue Giannis, they will involve into the trade talks that's for sure. They might use him for a sign-and-trade just to get Giannis. Their combo will be one of the best 1-2 combos if this trade will push through but rumors will remain rumors until it happens.