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October 20, 2024, 01:05:22 AM
Yeah, Ant is a candidate for it and IIRC last season SGA was on the line for the MVP but he's a Canadian though.

If it becomes Wemby for this year, then another year of having an MVP that's not an American but we'll see, it seems that season is really buffed for most teams.

Well becoming MVP also gets a bit harder since last season since you have to play at least 65 games to be eligible for any award. That means not a lot of sitting out for rest and injury.
That opens the door for the younger generation actually since they don't have to watch out for their bodies as much as the veteran players. Players like Wemby, Any, Luka, SGA, Jason Tatum and so on, who are the faces of the league have an advantage there.
I like Luka now, only problem is he is sharing the floor with Kyrie, so his numbers are not as dominant as in the time without him. But if the Mavs gets a good season I wouldn't be surprised if he is one of the MVP frontrunners this season. I mean it surely is time for him!
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October 19, 2024, 06:14:41 PM
I just read a statistic that said the NBA MVP award hasn’t been won by an American born player in over 6 years and that seemed kind of wild to me. This would have been unheard to think about in the days of Michael Jordan. You can literally see the rest of the world catching up when it comes to basketball skills.
This is true.
 
I remember that it is because of these three - Jokic, Giannis and Embiid. 3 MVP awards for Jokic, 2 for Giannis and one for Joel, and this has started since 2019.

Maybe an American is going to be the next one but who could that be?

Has to be someone like ant.  Would be crazy if SGA won it this year with another international player from yet another differemt country.  If the projections go the way they are with wemby he might push in a couple of years yearly for it.  NBa is still dominated by US born players but the gap is closing every year.  Like the way baseball did in the MLB.
Yeah, Ant is a candidate for it and IIRC last season SGA was on the line for the MVP but he's a Canadian though.

If it becomes Wemby for this year, then another year of having an MVP that's not an American but we'll see, it seems that season is really buffed for most teams.
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October 19, 2024, 04:51:02 PM
I just read a statistic that said the NBA MVP award hasn’t been won by an American born player in over 6 years and that seemed kind of wild to me. This would have been unheard to think about in the days of Michael Jordan. You can literally see the rest of the world catching up when it comes to basketball skills.
This is true.
 
I remember that it is because of these three - Jokic, Giannis and Embiid. 3 MVP awards for Jokic, 2 for Giannis and one for Joel, and this has started since 2019.

Maybe an American is going to be the next one but who could that be?

Has to be someone like ant.  Would be crazy if SGA won it this year with another international player from yet another differemt country.  If the projections go the way they are with wemby he might push in a couple of years yearly for it.  NBa is still dominated by US born players but the gap is closing every year.  Like the way baseball did in the MLB.
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October 19, 2024, 03:29:59 PM
Shams is reporting that Yuki Kawamura has earned himself a contract with the Grizzlies.  I love to see this.  He has been balling out in the preseason so far and leaving us with a ton of highlights.  I'm looking forward to seeing what he can do in the league this year when competition heats up a bit.

“The Memphis Grizzlies are signing Japanese guard Yuki Kawamura to a two-way NBA contract, sources tell ESPN. The 5-foot-8 Kawamura averaged 3.4 points, 4.2 assists and 15.1 minutes in preseason, leading Grizzlies with 21 total assists, and earned a roster spot.”
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October 19, 2024, 03:24:31 PM
https://bleacherreport.com/articles/10139947-nba-rumors-aaron-gordon-wont-get-150m-max-contract-offer-from-nugget

So it means that the Nuggets wanted to retain him, however, they don't want to give him the possible max contract. And so if this is the case then we might see another part of the core team of Nuggets who win their NBA ring might not be with team. He have seen, KCP is the latest of the Nuggets that decided to move out, so maybe Gordon will be the next one.

In any case, still plenty of time for him to show his worth in this coming season. Worse case scenario is that if the Nuggets won't make it to the finals, just maybe they will lose another great player in their team. Gordon has evolved into a high flyer to a veteran and a great defender and then he can still score if needed specially in clutch. Two years still though in his contract and by that time, maybe it's a different Nugget team or Gordon started to decline as well.
When a team is doing good, having trouble within based on finances never makes sense to me. They already won something together, and they could potentially win again, they should be keeping the team together. Money is not really worth ruining this type of team, because in the end we are talking about a team that will have a higher value the more rings they win together. Look at Warriors, that team was bought out by some rich dude, and because of their rings, they are now worth a lot more, even new stadium has a value for it.

This is why I honestly believe the best thing they could do about this would be just focusing on what they could use this money for, and if they do spend maximum contract on Gordon then they are going to end up getting that back somehow, all because of value going up. This is one of the most expensive investments one can make, but think of it like any other business, and if you are spending 100 million extra between contract and the tax etc, but the team is gaining more than 100 million in value, then it's a good deal.
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October 19, 2024, 02:12:54 PM
The Celtics waiving Lonnie Walker already is a bit of a surprise. I wonder what’s going on there. Just a couple of weeks ago everyone was praising Boston for making such a great pickup and now they’re letting him walk away. Given his skill set, I think something out of the ordinary must be going on with Lonnie Walker.
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October 19, 2024, 12:31:23 PM
Gordon may not really deserve nearly 40 million dollars a year though, so there is a rightful reason for not offering him maximum contract. I do agree them putting that money up for future success reasons, but 40 million-ish type of money for Aaron Gordon makes no sense to me, he doesn't deserve that much.

About 30 million would be ideal sweet spot for both sides, a bit less than 30 would be amazing for the team. He is making about 20 million dollars right now, and asking for more, at his age, is a lot to ask for just because the team is doing great. We all know the team isn't doing great because of Gordon, if they lose Gordon then for 20-30 million range they could get someone else.

But Gordon knows they can't get that from free agency and would need a trade. I believe him getting 20-25 range would be the best case scenario for the team as well. There is no room for emotional reactions in business, look at Klay Thompson, dude was amazing for many years and was one of the biggest parts of Warriors having these rings, the moment he became bad, they just let him go.
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October 19, 2024, 12:04:16 PM
In this case, if the Nuggets is going to offer, could be not max contract as well with Gordon because they have other priorities like Jokic and Murray.

Gordon has to realize that the Nuggets already had Jokic and Murray leading the way before he arrived. In fact, during his first season with them, he had his struggles but was given the chance to grow his game. There’s no denying that his presence has really strengthened their defense, but he can't demand a max contract if it means jeopardizing the team's future. No matter how you look at it, the team has its priorities: Jokic is number 1, and Murray is second.

Agree to that, else he wanted to maximize his opportunity to make more money before his retirement then he can go and find another option but in terms of aiming for another chance to win another ring, he needs to consider whatever the offer that Nuggets can give him, though still too early to discuss this matter and there's an upcoming season to see if he will be more healthy to bargain his next option.

Still a good part of the core that might be given a consideration in case that he'll be able to help and the team manage to win another title.
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October 19, 2024, 07:19:58 AM
In this case, if the Nuggets is going to offer, could be not max contract as well with Gordon because they have other priorities like Jokic and Murray.

Gordon has to realize that the Nuggets already had Jokic and Murray leading the way before he arrived. In fact, during his first season with them, he had his struggles but was given the chance to grow his game. There’s no denying that his presence has really strengthened their defense, but he can't demand a max contract if it means jeopardizing the team's future. No matter how you look at it, the team has its priorities: Jokic is number 1, and Murray is second.
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October 19, 2024, 06:17:46 AM
So it means that the Nuggets wanted to retain him, however, they don't want to give him the possible max contract.

Yeah, exactly. They’re probably just trying to stay flexible so they can make sure to lock in their top guys like Jokic and Murray with the max contracts they deserve. No doubt, Gordon has made the Nuggets better, but the contract they’re offering seems a bit too high for someone who isn’t the team’s main star. He’s already won a championship with them, so hopefully, he won’t get too greedy and just take the deal to stay with the team and win more titles, and , at his age, it’s unlikely he’ll get a better offer elsewhere than what he’s getting now.

Probably we can compare it Klay Thompson's case, although he got offered by the Warriors as reported during the start of the season, he declined the offered because he doesn't like he and most likely he is also looking for a max contract.

And so after the seasons it, and as we have seen in Klay's last game or throughout, it is a different Klay and so they offered him again way below his expectations. In this case, if the Nuggets is going to offer, could be not max contract as well with Gordon because they have other priorities like Jokic and Murray.
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October 19, 2024, 06:14:35 AM
So it means that the Nuggets wanted to retain him, however, they don't want to give him the possible max contract. And so if this is the case then we might see another part of the core team of Nuggets who win their NBA ring might not be with team. He have seen, KCP is the latest of the Nuggets that decided to move out, so maybe Gordon will be the next one.
I won't be surprised if that happens, Aaron Gordon is one of the pillars of the team that's able to help them get their first chip. They should spoil him with the max contract that they can give to him because he deserves that. It's obviously that he's one of the biggest help in the team. Maybe they're all going to invest more with Jamal and Jokic which doesn't look fair when he's one of the big three in the time. But anyway, maybe he's foreseen this already and have got some plans already on how he's going to adjust if some teams need a big man like him, he's very athletic and efficient under the rim.

There is no discussion yet for a superstar in the making, Dalton Knecht. He's made 35 points and turned the game aganst the Phoenix Suns and got that win. It's lovely to hear it from the commentators: "Knecht, connects!".

You know you’re a bad man when Snoop Dogg gives you a nickname. Congrats to Dalton “Westside” Knecht on his performance yesterday. He brought home a win, secured overtime, put up huge numbers, lots of highlights, and he made Bronny James look terrible. Lakers fans everywhere already falling in love with this kid.
Did he? Haha!
And speaking of Bronny, he made a good number with their match a while ago. Way to go Bronny!
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October 19, 2024, 05:30:58 AM
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The Denver Nuggets reportedly aren't interested in paying forward Aaron Gordon a maximum contract value of four years and $150 million during extension negotiations.

ESPN's Brian Windhorst said on Friday's episode of The Hoop Collective that the Nuggets are "hopeful" to sign Gordon to a new deal below the $150 million that he's eligible to receive (h/t RealGM).

Gordon still has two years remaining on his current contract, which includes a $22.8 million player option for the 2025-26 season.

A potential four-year, $150 million contract would be worth $37.5 million per year. If the maximum extension is signed and kicks in after his current deal, Gordon's average annual salary would become the ninth-highest among power forwards in the NBA during the 2026-27 season

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/10139947-nba-rumors-aaron-gordon-wont-get-150m-max-contract-offer-from-nugget

So it means that the Nuggets wanted to retain him, however, they don't want to give him the possible max contract. And so if this is the case then we might see another part of the core team of Nuggets who win their NBA ring might not be with team. He have seen, KCP is the latest of the Nuggets that decided to move out, so maybe Gordon will be the next one.

In any case, still plenty of time for him to show his worth in this coming season. Worse case scenario is that if the Nuggets won't make it to the finals, just maybe they will lose another great player in their team. Gordon has evolved into a high flyer to a veteran and a great defender and then he can still score if needed specially in clutch. Two years still though in his contract and by that time, maybe it's a different Nugget team or Gordon started to decline as well.

Oh seems Nuggets doesn't really have plan to pay huge for those players who help them win a championship. If Gordon will be out in their rotation then provably that there chance to get another championship will became more lessen.

To bad for them and provably that there would be a lot more teams willing to give what Gordon ask. He's strong and performing well and for sure if he will be out on Nuggets this team will end up in half rebuilding mode. Gordon should perform good this season and stay away from injuries since if he could able to do that, maybe Nuggets will think twice not to give him what he deserve or he will get a lot of offers from other team.
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October 19, 2024, 01:32:52 AM
Bronny James had himself a game today.  Finally he got to silence some haters.  He put up 17 points, 4 rebounds, 3 steals and a block.  He had some decent highlights too.  A pretty slick layup between two defenders (while he had two open guys on the wings) and he also caught an alley oop.  I still don't see him getting a lot of minutes during the year if he even stays on the squad, but it's nice to know he is capable of putting in some good NBA minutes for the Lakers.  Hopefully he keeps getting better as he gets more comfortable out there.
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October 18, 2024, 11:30:04 PM
So it means that the Nuggets wanted to retain him, however, they don't want to give him the possible max contract.

Yeah, exactly. They’re probably just trying to stay flexible so they can make sure to lock in their top guys like Jokic and Murray with the max contracts they deserve. No doubt, Gordon has made the Nuggets better, but the contract they’re offering seems a bit too high for someone who isn’t the team’s main star. He’s already won a championship with them, so hopefully, he won’t get too greedy and just take the deal to stay with the team and win more titles, and , at his age, it’s unlikely he’ll get a better offer elsewhere than what he’s getting now.
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October 18, 2024, 09:39:19 PM
What can you say about this news?

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The Denver Nuggets reportedly aren't interested in paying forward Aaron Gordon a maximum contract value of four years and $150 million during extension negotiations.

ESPN's Brian Windhorst said on Friday's episode of The Hoop Collective that the Nuggets are "hopeful" to sign Gordon to a new deal below the $150 million that he's eligible to receive (h/t RealGM).

Gordon still has two years remaining on his current contract, which includes a $22.8 million player option for the 2025-26 season.

A potential four-year, $150 million contract would be worth $37.5 million per year. If the maximum extension is signed and kicks in after his current deal, Gordon's average annual salary would become the ninth-highest among power forwards in the NBA during the 2026-27 season

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/10139947-nba-rumors-aaron-gordon-wont-get-150m-max-contract-offer-from-nugget

So it means that the Nuggets wanted to retain him, however, they don't want to give him the possible max contract. And so if this is the case then we might see another part of the core team of Nuggets who win their NBA ring might not be with team. He have seen, KCP is the latest of the Nuggets that decided to move out, so maybe Gordon will be the next one.

In any case, still plenty of time for him to show his worth in this coming season. Worse case scenario is that if the Nuggets won't make it to the finals, just maybe they will lose another great player in their team. Gordon has evolved into a high flyer to a veteran and a great defender and then he can still score if needed specially in clutch. Two years still though in his contract and by that time, maybe it's a different Nugget team or Gordon started to decline as well.
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October 18, 2024, 08:37:58 PM
^^ I don't know if we have to believed a curse, but we have seen the start of Clippers with CP3 and Blake and DJ but it still feel short during that era. And probably that was the closest that they can get to a championship team. But after that they got to rebuild again with Kawhi, coming from a championship stint in Toronto, however, his nagging injuries started to show and up to know we haven't seen Kawhi's contribution to the Clippers. Now they let go of Paul George already and teams are loaded with superstar and yet they can't get over with the playoff. Maybe they will have go rebuilt again and let go of Kawhi if I'm Ballmer. He has spent too much money and yet they can't see the results in the last 4 years or so.
I said that it was a "curse" because they're making bad decisions over bad decisions over the years. I would say that it's a "metaphor", but you get what I said on that one. Wink

Anyway, one of the worst decisions that the Clippers did is to give Kawhi an extension while they didn't give PG13 a new contract just because they're afraid that it will put the team to the 2nd apron. I get the idea that they don't want to sign PG to a max contract, but the Warriors did want to get him in exchange for young players, picks and some players as well, but the Clippers decline and instead, they let PG go for NOTHING. That alone is a bad decision already for them.

I agree with what you said that they need to rebuild, but the problem with the Clippers right now is that THEY DON'T HAVE ANY PICKS for the next years because they've been added to the OKC-LA trade that involves PG13, and in that package, that includes SGA, Tre Mann and J-Dub plus 3 future picks as well. Imagine the Clippers giving away the 1st and 2nd option for offense of Thunder now away for basically nothing because in the end, they gave away the player that they traded for it. Cheesy

They're screwed, and they're screwed for the next 3-5 years just because they can't rebuild, and they will stick with the same roster for some time... at least unless they will trade Kawhi and there will be a team that will get him, but I doubt it will happen.
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October 18, 2024, 06:12:30 PM
At least that the Clippers knew it too early that he won't be able to play and they're not in jeopardy like in important games that they need to win in the playoffs.  Tongue

There is no discussion yet for a superstar in the making, Dalton Knecht. He's made 35 points and turned the game aganst the Phoenix Suns and got that win. It's lovely to hear it from the commentators: "Knecht, connects!".




You know you’re a bad man when Snoop Dogg gives you a nickname. Congrats to Dalton “Westside” Knecht on his performance yesterday. He brought home a win, secured overtime, put up huge numbers, lots of highlights, and he made Bronny James look terrible. Lakers fans everywhere already falling in love with this kid.
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October 18, 2024, 06:01:41 PM
I just read a statistic that said the NBA MVP award hasn’t been won by an American born player in over 6 years and that seemed kind of wild to me. This would have been unheard to think about in the days of Michael Jordan. You can literally see the rest of the world catching up when it comes to basketball skills.
This is true.
 
I remember that it is because of these three - Jokic, Giannis and Embiid. 3 MVP awards for Jokic, 2 for Giannis and one for Joel, and this has started since 2019.

Maybe an American is going to be the next one but who could that be?
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October 18, 2024, 05:20:36 PM
Any chance that Grizzlies going to extend Yuki Kawamura's contract?

No clue but the kid was nice in the preseason.  Definately had Ja smiling.  He is small out there but it didn't matter he is silky smooth in the pain dishing it to the right guy at the right time.  Dude has a crazy good basketball iq from the small amount of time I watched him.  Maybe he has his own insanity run one day lol.  That was a fun time.  Was battling kobe at the garden.  Calling his own game winner against Toronto lol.  Hope the kid makes it.
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October 18, 2024, 02:09:00 PM
I just read a statistic that said the NBA MVP award hasn’t been won by an American born player in over 6 years and that seemed kind of wild to me. This would have been unheard to think about in the days of Michael Jordan. You can literally see the rest of the world catching up when it comes to basketball skills.
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