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Quote from: boyptc on September 19, 2024, 04:32:02 PM

There are some players that are not even key players that have chosen to stay with their teams like Udonis Haslem.

He played a key role, but it seems like his primary role was more of a mentor to the team, which is probably why he didn’t retire earlier, even though his minutes were reduced. But as for the record now, he’s retired, right?

Quote from: boyptc on September 19, 2024, 04:32:02 PM

The case of Klay isn't different from the rest of the three because it's no doubt that aside from Steph, Warriors has had him as one of their stars and franchise players.

But that's how the NBA goes, when someone is injured and doesn't play good anymore, they'd just let it go.

Klay is still good, no doubt about it. He’s probably still working on regaining his full confidence, and maybe moving to another team could be the right solution. I’m optimistic that he could help the Dallas franchise win another championship. As long as Klay stays healthy next season, I’m sure he can contribute a lot to the team.

Honestly, I don’t think the Warriors can win another championship without Klay. He’s saved them so many times, especially during those crucial moments. If you’re familiar with "Game 6 Klay," you know how big of an impact he had on their championship runs.

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I don't think that'll work either for both teams. Doncic and Giannis are both a franchise player, so trading them away is not in their books.

And so as Klay and Steph.

In NBA, it's true that there are franchise players but if there is something going on then one thing is for sure. Regardless of the treatment of the team to their main stay players.

The chance of moving onto another team is there.

Klay's scenario is different as for the other 3.

Steph, Luka and Giannis is still playing at their best currently while Klay's washed. The Warriors didn't trade him when he's on his best, but when they felt that it's over for him, they just let him go away. Franchise players can stay on their team, but once they're washed or aren't contributing to that team anymore, they can just go to another team.

There are some players that are not even key players that have chosen to stay with their teams like Udonis Haslem.

The case of Klay isn't different from the rest of the three because it's no doubt that aside from Steph, Warriors has had him as one of their stars and franchise players.

But that's how the NBA goes, when someone is injured and doesn't play good anymore, they'd just let it go.

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Seattle Sonics will be back? Roll Eyes

That's an interesting team and I think that's where KD has started his career, cmiiw. And as for the Las Vegas team, wasn't this where Lebron, Shaq and the other veterans are interested of acquiring and become team owners? I've also seen some news about Adam Silver said that they're also in finalization of things before Boston Celtics will be sold to a new owner.

You never heard about the league expansion? Seattle and LV are by far the front runners to be the next new teams in the league, this has been in the media in forever.
Even though the Sonics left many years ago basketball is still super popular in Seattle, also they have an arena which is ready to play at. Basically everything speaks for Seattle (such as LV) and the NBA can't wait to get the expansion on the way, more teams means more money to make obviously. And as we all know, the NBA is all about money.

I've heard of that just now and in the past it's like a rumors forever. And totally, it's all about the money and that's why Adam Silver before anything is being evaluated for their current value and with this expansion, that's what I've heard about they're trying to finalize things first about Celtics value before it's moved and sold to the new owners of it. More teams, means that we're going to have more players. A lot of money indeed is going to flow once again on the league.

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Quote from: boyptc on September 19, 2024, 06:26:39 AM

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I don't think that'll work either for both teams. Doncic and Giannis are both a franchise player, so trading them away is not in their books.

And so as Klay and Steph.

In NBA, it's true that there are franchise players but if there is something going on then one thing is for sure. Regardless of the treatment of the team to their main stay players.

The chance of moving onto another team is there.

Klay's scenario is different as for the other 3.

Steph, Luka and Giannis is still playing at their best currently while Klay's washed. The Warriors didn't trade him when he's on his best, but when they felt that it's over for him, they just let him go away. Franchise players can stay on their team, but once they're washed or aren't contributing to that team anymore, they can just go to another team.

Like what @Oasisman said, I also believe that both Luka and Giannis will not be traded to another team unless: either one of them requests to do so, or if the management wants them to get traded and between the two, the first one is most likely to happen, but it isn't now or at least in the next 1-2 years. Yes there's always a chance for any player, superstar or not to get traded, but there are certain factors as well for that to happen. It's just not like, they will trade every player because they wanted to.

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Quote from: passwordnow on September 19, 2024, 08:33:42 AM

Seattle Sonics will be back? Roll Eyes

That's an interesting team and I think that's where KD has started his career, cmiiw. And as for the Las Vegas team, wasn't this where Lebron, Shaq and the other veterans are interested of acquiring and become team owners? I've also seen some news about Adam Silver said that they're also in finalization of things before Boston Celtics will be sold to a new owner.

You never heard about the league expansion? Seattle and LV are by far the front runners to be the next new teams in the league, this has been in the media in forever.
Even though the Sonics left many years ago basketball is still super popular in Seattle, also they have an arena which is ready to play at. Basically everything speaks for Seattle (such as LV) and the NBA can't wait to get the expansion on the way, more teams means more money to make obviously. And as we all know, the NBA is all about money.

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Quote from: dwyane36 on September 18, 2024, 09:51:02 PM

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This is great news for the city and perhaps bad news for citizens of New Jersey who thought this would be their chance to get an NBA team back.

I have never heard this news, so there was a news about New Jersey acquiring a team again and 76ers was their prospect? I remember in the past that the Nets was with them but that was too long time ago and I was younger back then.

As far as I know, there have been rumors of the 76ers possibly relocating to Camden NJ since there was approval from the authorities to build a new arena there. But, as OgNasty said above, that won't happen since Philadelphia authorities have reached an agreement with the 76ers.

I get it, thanks. That's a brief yet concise summary on how this has happened before with the proposal of Camden NJ.

Quote from: dwyane36 on September 18, 2024, 09:51:02 PM

By the way, there were also rumors that two new teams may appear in the NBA already in the 27-28 season. I'm talking about the teams that will be in Las Vegas and Seattle.

Seattle Sonics will be back? Roll Eyes

That's an interesting team and I think that's where KD has started his career, cmiiw. And as for the Las Vegas team, wasn't this where Lebron, Shaq and the other veterans are interested of acquiring and become team owners? I've also seen some news about Adam Silver said that they're also in finalization of things before Boston Celtics will be sold to a new owner.

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Quote from: boyptc on September 19, 2024, 06:26:39 AM

Quote from: Oasisman on September 18, 2024, 04:03:06 PM

I don't think that'll work either for both teams. Doncic and Giannis are both a franchise player, so trading them away is not in their books.

And so as Klay and Steph.

There is only one franchise player though in GSW, and that is Steph and not Klay. And this is the same reason why KD left the Warriors as he felt that even if he has done a lot and giving the Dubs 2 rings, it's not enough for him to get the "respect" that he deserves being a Warrior.

Quote from: boyptc on September 19, 2024, 06:26:39 AM

In NBA, it's true that there are franchise players but if there is something going on then one thing is for sure. Regardless of the treatment of the team to their main stay players.

The chance of moving onto another team is there.

Definitely, we can say that about the break up between Shaq and the Lakers, we thought that Shaq should be the franchise player. But the Lakers chooses Kobe, maybe there are some powerful people behind the Lakers management that vetoed that's why Shaq was left go and Kobe proving himself to be the franchise player after that and so they make the right decision.

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Quote from: boyptc on September 19, 2024, 06:26:39 AM

Quote from: Oasisman on September 18, 2024, 04:03:06 PM

I don't think that'll work either for both teams. Doncic and Giannis are both a franchise player, so trading them away is not in their books.

And so as Klay and Steph.

In NBA, it's true that there are franchise players but if there is something going on then one thing is for sure. Regardless of the treatment of the team to their main stay players.

The chance of moving onto another team is there.

Especially if the money speak loudly, even how team tried to secure their stars there's still chance that either the player itself will ask for the trade or the offers is something that managements won't be able to resist, it's a business and what's important for each owners is how to make more, even they'll stake thier main star they will go to that route.

Let see if there's big movements like this to happen before the trade deadline, what surprise might it be for the fans..

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Quote from: Oasisman on September 18, 2024, 04:03:06 PM

I don't think that'll work either for both teams. Doncic and Giannis are both a franchise player, so trading them away is not in their books.

And so as Klay and Steph.

In NBA, it's true that there are franchise players but if there is something going on then one thing is for sure. Regardless of the treatment of the team to their main stay players.

The chance of moving onto another team is there.

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Quote from: OgNasty on September 18, 2024, 04:13:32 PM

This is great news for the city and perhaps bad news for citizens of New Jersey who thought this would be their chance to get an NBA team back.

I have never heard this news, so there was a news about New Jersey acquiring a team again and 76ers was their prospect? I remember in the past that the Nets was with them but that was too long time ago and I was younger back then.

As far as I know, there have been rumors of the 76ers possibly relocating to Camden NJ since there was approval from the authorities to build a new arena there. But, as OgNasty said above, that won't happen since Philadelphia authorities have reached an agreement with the 76ers.
By the way, there were also rumors that two new teams may appear in the NBA already in the 27-28 season. I'm talking about the teams that will be in Las Vegas and Seattle.

Seattle has been a mainstream in the NBA if I'm not mistaken, and they are called Supersonics until it was rebranded or relocated to become Oklahoma City Thunder or what we know now as OKC. They had a storied NBA history with Shawn Kemp and the Glove Gary Payton and other great superstars before them.

And with Las Vegas, yeah could be a good city to have a NBA team. Reports says that Lebron is willing to put up a team from team. And if my memory serves me right, Floyd Mayweather too is very interested in bringing his city to the NBA.

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Quote from: OgNasty on September 18, 2024, 04:13:32 PM

Lots of news in the basketball world today. The latest being from the 76ers. Philadelphia’s Mayor Cherelle Parker came out to say that the city has reached an agreement to "ensure" 76ers stay in Philadelphia. This is great news for the city and perhaps bad news for citizens of New Jersey who thought this would be their chance to get an NBA team back.

Just to stretch about this news, here is a link and an article about it.

Sixers’ $1.5B arena plan stokes ‘rendering wars’ across New Jersey, Delaware and Pennsylvania
https://whyy.org/articles/philadelphia-sixers-arena-renderings-new-jersey-delaware-pennsylvania/

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It’s no secret that the Philadelphia 76ers NBA basketball team owners have been dribbling around for a new home for several years. And the way competition is mounting among suitors, the team could score its new home anywhere in the tri-state region: Pennsylvania, New Jersey or Delaware.

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Sports economists and community members argue that’s what businesses do — create a heightened interest and a bidding war among prospective locations, so they can walk away with the best incentives. The ultimate goal of sports teams is to fetch the largest economic incentives from politicians eager to bring jobs to their respective constituents.

"Best incentives."
When a new Mayor is elected, he/she does want his followers to have jobs, and gaining an NBA team will give a lot of jobs for those supporters, and team owners want that to happen which is why it all goes to bidding.

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The New Jersey Economic Development Authority and State of New Jersey pitched $800 million in economic incentives to the 76ers to redevelop the site of the former Riverfront State Prison, which was demolished in 2010.

Out of curiosity, if New Jersey wins that bid and the 76ers will play there, will they be called New Jersey 76ers? I don't really understand this kind of thing. That will be kind of awkward because it was well-known as the Philadelphia 76ers. Well, I think that's not going to happen anytime soon.
Is it the same when the Nets were now in Brooklyn which is why the state name changed?

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Quote from: passwordnow on September 18, 2024, 04:58:46 PM

Quote from: OgNasty on September 18, 2024, 04:13:32 PM

This is great news for the city and perhaps bad news for citizens of New Jersey who thought this would be their chance to get an NBA team back.

I have never heard this news, so there was a news about New Jersey acquiring a team again and 76ers was their prospect? I remember in the past that the Nets was with them but that was too long time ago and I was younger back then.

As far as I know, there have been rumors of the 76ers possibly relocating to Camden NJ since there was approval from the authorities to build a new arena there. But, as OgNasty said above, that won't happen since Philadelphia authorities have reached an agreement with the 76ers.
By the way, there were also rumors that two new teams may appear in the NBA already in the 27-28 season. I'm talking about the teams that will be in Las Vegas and Seattle.

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Lots of news in the basketball world today. The latest being from the 76ers. Philadelphia’s Mayor Cherelle Parker came out to say that the city has reached an agreement to "ensure" 76ers stay in Philadelphia. This is great news for the city and perhaps bad news for citizens of New Jersey who thought this would be their chance to get an NBA team back.

I don't think there was ever really a chance they were going to leave more of a tactic. Den isn't really the hottest of spots for sports. Besides philly has probably one of the better spots for sports, eagles, phillies amd 76ers stadiums are all next to each other with xfinity live right in the middle which is a huge sports bar, reseteraunt complex. Breaking that apart would be bad for the other 2. Most Western or Southern Jersey people are sixers fans so I'm sure they wouldn't habe minded but in all honesty it would be a 10imite ride on the other side of the river from where it's at now.

Yes, it will be bad for other sporting teams in Philadelphia, they've already set that city and it has one storied stadium already.

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I think they already won one title with Lebron and should just be happy with that. I know that they would want more but they can't get it and they look like they are going to end up with just tossing to a wall anytime they reach to playoffs. This is why I think it should be something that is getting a bigger trouble if they rebuild again and again. Just let Lebron play with his son and just retire with peace and then they can rebuild after that.

Yes, they are happy about Lebron giving the city another championship. However, this is competitive sports so I doubt that the Lakers managements are just contented with just one ring with Lebron when they are paying him good money. They should still think of rebuilding and then go out and compete seasons after seasons until Lebron retires. And for sure the Lakers owner knows this and they really need to think about the money and the players that they will surround Lebron and AD if they are going after another ring.

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Quote from: OgNasty on September 18, 2024, 04:13:32 PM

Lots of news in the basketball world today. The latest being from the 76ers. Philadelphia’s Mayor Cherelle Parker came out to say that the city has reached an agreement to "ensure" 76ers stay in Philadelphia. This is great news for the city and perhaps bad news for citizens of New Jersey who thought this would be their chance to get an NBA team back.

I don't think there was ever really a chance they were going to leave more of a tactic. Den isn't really the hottest of spots for sports. Besides philly has probably one of the better spots for sports, eagles, phillies amd 76ers stadiums are all next to each other with xfinity live right in the middle which is a huge sports bar, reseteraunt complex. Breaking that apart would be bad for the other 2. Most Western or Southern Jersey people are sixers fans so I'm sure they wouldn't habe minded but in all honesty it would be a 10imite ride on the other side of the river from where it's at now.

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Quote from: OgNasty on September 18, 2024, 04:13:32 PM

This is great news for the city and perhaps bad news for citizens of New Jersey who thought this would be their chance to get an NBA team back.

I have never heard this news, so there was a news about New Jersey acquiring a team again and 76ers was their prospect? I remember in the past that the Nets was with them but that was too long time ago and I was younger back then.

Quote from: FanEagle on September 18, 2024, 03:44:42 PM

I think we need to consider that it's the best thing to do right now just to focus on the players they already have and try to do something decent with them. It would make more sense to do it that way and I believe that as long as we can see these teams build a good chemistry and strategy they are good enough to be a decent playoff team.

This is what most of the successful teams did. Studying what the teams that have obtained a ring did in the past. Bucks with Giannis, Warriors with Steph, Klay, Dray and of course the contribution of KD but all of those that have stayed for so long with them have been developed. The Boston Celtics also did the same thing for developing Tatum and Brown, the Nuggets have Jokic and Murray.

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Lots of news in the basketball world today. The latest being from the 76ers. Philadelphia’s Mayor Cherelle Parker came out to say that the city has reached an agreement to "ensure" 76ers stay in Philadelphia. This is great news for the city and perhaps bad news for citizens of New Jersey who thought this would be their chance to get an NBA team back.

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If I’m managing the Lakers I wouldn’t rush to make any moves while LeBron is still on the roster. They need to be looking at ways to unwind this current team and make room for Luka Doncic. They need to stack draft picks and align contracts to expire. With the possibility of being left without LeBron or AD in another 2 years, a superstar like Luka or Giannis needs to be their only focus.

The Lakers don't have anyone (except LeBron and AD) to offer in a trade for Doncic or Giannis, and draft picks would clearly be an insufficient asset for such trades. And honestly, I don't think there are any scenarios where the Mavs would want to trade Doncic, or the Bucks would want to trade Giannis. By the way, Doncic is under contract for 3 more seasons, and I think the Mavs will offer him a huge extension in his last season. Same with Giannis.

Maybe DLo or Austin Reaves or or Rui Hachimura future draft picks might be the best that they can offer if they wanted to pursue either of the players. However, this era has started to be another superstars joining another team to make a super team.

I don't think that'll work either for both teams. Doncic and Giannis are both a franchise player, so trading them away is not in their books. If, let's say they thought of it somehow, they'll probably going to demand even more. On the other hand, DLo and AR15 or even Rui is now a vital core for the Lakers. They could actually build their team around these 3. This is actually the reason why the Lakers did not trade DLo away and decided to keep him for the 2024-2025 season. Though I'm not a hundred percent sure, maybe they could use him as a piece for a trade to get another superstar, but Doncic or Giannis is quite far from happening IMO.

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It's clear that they are going to end up failing to get Butler because Warriors do not have anyone that they can trade for him, so it won't really work at all. We should be looking at what we are dealing with when we are talking about trades, just because espn trade machine approved it, doesn't mean it is going to happen or it makes sense. Heat is doing fine, they have decent squad and I am sure that they will try to do fine with who they have, I do not think that they are ready to rebuild and just send players away these days. Neither will Lakers get anyone decent like that, rebuilding is not a situation Heat is ready for at the moment.

I think we need to consider that it's the best thing to do right now just to focus on the players they already have and try to do something decent with them. It would make more sense to do it that way and I believe that as long as we can see these teams build a good chemistry and strategy they are good enough to be a decent playoff team.

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Butler definitely looks like he would be great for Warriors but that doesn't mean that we are looking at something that will get a great deal but at the same time this is not a real trade and not even a rumour but just a thought experiment and nothing more.

That goes for the clout and fans that likes to create rumors are like that.

But if it goes and becomes a real thing, trades like this is going to be a surprising one. What I think is the better rumor and close to reality is about Giannis wanting to move to Dallas.

It's more likely as we've heard it last season IIRC that he wants out of the Milwaukee Bucks.

No way the Bucks move giannis there is no reason too. No reason to take on Dame without having giannis on the team. He is locked in for 3 more years amd then a player option for another one. And I'm not entirely sure he would ever want to leave. A lot of people don't know but the Bucks organization had a huge part in getting his whole family to the united states. There's things outside of basketball which makes people want to stay working for a certain team.

Yeah, there's no reason for the Bucks to trade him but we've seen star players that have decided to part ways with the team that they've became the face of.

I think that the rumors have said that a year ago or two that it was Giannis expressing his thoughts about leaving the team.

There were some memes even about it that if Bucks won't give his brother a contract, he'd leave.

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Lakers do try to build a team that will be good enough to go for a title again, but they definitely do not have anyone to offer. Maybe Dangelo Russel is the only player on the roster right now they can offer on a trade but that won't be an easy thing to do at all, it will be a very tough trade since he doesn't worth anything. They used everything they have on a trade to get AD and after that they didn't really get anything crazy, the fact that they do not have even proper picks is a problem for them and will continue to be an issue.

I think they already won one title with Lebron and should just be happy with that. I know that they would want more but they can't get it and they look like they are going to end up with just tossing to a wall anytime they reach to playoffs. This is why I think it should be something that is getting a bigger trouble if they rebuild again and again. Just let Lebron play with his son and just retire with peace and then they can rebuild after that.

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