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Quote from: harizen on February 03, 2023, 01:34:32 PM

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Magnolia are down as high as 16 points against the TNT and I thought that they can still defeat them when they chipped down the league into 2 points in the 4th quarter, but just after that huge run, TNT made their own run and put the lead to double digits again to the point that Magnolia can't fight back anymore.

Sometimes, it's really worth putting risks of betting on any SMC or MVP teams when being down by double-digit points regardless of who's their opponent, either against independent teams, farm teams, or sister teams. Handicap or Moneyline, in some PBA games, a large lead is sometimes meant to be spoiled.

If you guys remembered, before that TNT game against Magnolia, the former blew a 15-point lead against NLEX and cost them defeat. This time, even though they were able to stop Magnolia's rally, at least able to get the win in the end. If TNT loses against Magnolia instead, another choke game by them and that's a big concern to address.

If that run from Magnolia manage to snatch the game from TNT then It will be a big concern especially with the coaching side, that's a huge lead that they will again blownout, not a considerable outcome after the last defeat from NLEX, though they manage to secure the win after making therir own run and gain back that comfortable lead.

Magnolia now is in need of wins, twice in a row and almost but didn't complete the comeback.

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Quote from: LogitechMouse on February 03, 2023, 09:27:30 AM

Magnolia are down as high as 16 points against the TNT and I thought that they can still defeat them when they chipped down the league into 2 points in the 4th quarter, but just after that huge run, TNT made their own run and put the lead to double digits again to the point that Magnolia can't fight back anymore.

Sometimes, it's really worth putting risks of betting on any SMC or MVP teams when being down by double-digit points regardless of who's their opponent, either against independent teams, farm teams, or sister teams. Handicap or Moneyline, in some PBA games, a large lead is sometimes meant to be spoiled.

If you guys remembered, before that TNT game against Magnolia, the former blew a 15-point lead against NLEX and cost them defeat. This time, even though they were able to stop Magnolia's rally, at least able to get the win in the end. If TNT loses against Magnolia instead, another choke game by them and that's a big concern to address.

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Quote from: Hypnosis00 on February 03, 2023, 05:43:25 AM

TNT is again ahead in the first half.

TNT 52 - Magnolia 39. Do you still remember what happened against the NLEX? they struggle in the 2nd half, so I like to take chances here, betting on Magnolia ML and +11.5. Let's go, best of luck to me.

Handicap got covered and the ML almost but TNT did a very good run not to allow Mags to rally completely and snatch the game from them, I like the locals competitions as the imports are both struggled providing decent stats, its a battle between the locals and how coaches did execute their respectives game plays.

Congrats to your handicap, not sure if you got breakeven or the amount of your win ain't enough to cover the amount of your bet with your ML..

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Quote from: LogitechMouse on February 03, 2023, 09:27:30 AM

Magnolia are down as high as 16 points against the TNT and I thought that they can still defeat them when they chipped down the league into 2 points in the 4th quarter, but just after that huge run, TNT made their own run and put the lead to double digits again to the point that Magnolia can't fight back anymore.

TNT's import, Hudson only scored 14 points and shot 4/17 from the field but it's good that the locals like Pogoy, the 2 Williams and Oftana stepped up offensively. On one hand, Magnolia's import McCree only scored 12 points on 4/9 shooting. Both imports struggled offensively, but McCree is just having a hard time shooting the ball that he only attempted 9 times all throughout the whole game. That shows that the scouts of TNT are doing their job thus, they know how to stop Magnolia's import. TNT came back after that defeat against the NLEX while the Magnolia are still winless.

The first game? Do we need to talk about it? I mean from the start, we already knew who will win right? Cheesy

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very impressive performance for TNT like what you said Magnolia have a big chance of winning during 4rt minutes mark of fourth quarter the lead of TNT goes down to 1 position game which is very close and that's a good run for magnolia But 2 Williams and pugoy with the help of the rest of the team didn't let magnolia take the advantage they to their best. And do a good run the leads goes to 2 digit which pretty good enough to take the win.

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Magnolia are down as high as 16 points against the TNT and I thought that they can still defeat them when they chipped down the league into 2 points in the 4th quarter, but just after that huge run, TNT made their own run and put the lead to double digits again to the point that Magnolia can't fight back anymore.

TNT's import, Hudson only scored 14 points and shot 4/17 from the field but it's good that the locals like Pogoy, the 2 Williams and Oftana stepped up offensively. On one hand, Magnolia's import McCree only scored 12 points on 4/9 shooting. Both imports struggled offensively, but McCree is just having a hard time shooting the ball that he only attempted 9 times all throughout the whole game. That shows that the scouts of TNT are doing their job thus, they know how to stop Magnolia's import. TNT came back after that defeat against the NLEX while the Magnolia are still winless.

The first game? Do we need to talk about it? I mean from the start, we already knew who will win right? Cheesy

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Quote from: Hypnosis00 on February 03, 2023, 05:43:25 AM

TNT is again ahead in the first half.

TNT 52 - Magnolia 39. Do you still remember what happened against the NLEX? they struggle in the 2nd half, so I like to take chances here, betting on Magnolia ML and +11.5. Let's go, best of luck to me.

Good luck, that's a risky bet IMO, but you know, they are the Magnolia Hotshots, this team is capable of coming back from a big deficit, just like what they did against the Converge, they just fell short in the 4th quarter. Let's hope that Abueva will be able to play in the 2nd half, Magnolia really needs him to guard the import of the TNT.

The same thing happened to Magnolia in this game, they were able to make it a close game, I think they were only down 2 points but they make mistakes in the next possessions giving the TNT to take their comfortable lead again. Lots of mistakes for Magnolia, although they have the defense but unfortunately their offense are not clicking well, Paul alone cannot win compared to the spread offense of the TNT.

He won the +11.5, the ML is just a bonus because somehow Magnolia was able to give a little hope that they could win the game. No ML but the handicap was covered well. Congrats @Hypnosis00, I said it was a risky bet but congratulations because you won the spread.

Does anyone bet on the under? The game went under easily due to a physical game, the total was only 178, I'm wondering what's the betting odds for 170-180 total points range.

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Quote from: Questat on February 03, 2023, 05:52:38 AM

Quote from: Hypnosis00 on February 03, 2023, 05:43:25 AM

TNT is again ahead in the first half.

TNT 52 - Magnolia 39. Do you still remember what happened against the NLEX? they struggle in the 2nd half, so I like to take chances here, betting on Magnolia ML and +11.5. Let's go, best of luck to me.

Good luck, that's a risky bet IMO, but you know, they are the Magnolia Hotshots, this team is capable of coming back from a big deficit, just like what they did against the Converge, they just fell short in the 4th quarter. Let's hope that Abueva will be able to play in the 2nd half, Magnolia really needs him to guard the import of the TNT.

The same thing happened to Magnolia in this game, they were able to make it a close game, I think they were only down 2 points but they make mistakes in the next possessions giving the TNT to take their comfortable lead again. Lots of mistakes for Magnolia, although they have the defense but unfortunately their offense are not clicking well, Paul alone cannot win compared to the spread offense of the TNT.

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Quote from: Hypnosis00 on February 03, 2023, 05:43:25 AM

TNT is again ahead in the first half.

TNT 52 - Magnolia 39. Do you still remember what happened against the NLEX? they struggle in the 2nd half, so I like to take chances here, betting on Magnolia ML and +11.5. Let's go, best of luck to me.

Good luck, that's a risky bet IMO, but you know, they are the Magnolia Hotshots, this team is capable of coming back from a big deficit, just like what they did against the Converge, they just fell short in the 4th quarter. Let's hope that Abueva will be able to play in the 2nd half, Magnolia really needs him to guard the import of the TNT.

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TNT is again ahead in the first half.

TNT 52 - Magnolia 39. Do you still remember what happened against the NLEX? they struggle in the 2nd half, so I like to take chances here, betting on Magnolia ML and +11.5. Let's go, best of luck to me.

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I won my first game bet, I got a live bet Phoenix ML when they are down, the odds is 2.00 and I'm happy for it. Now, going to the 2nd game, I think I'm now tempted with the odds of ROS, they are still winless, so I'm expecting that they will play harder to beat the undefeated converge team.

If you are to bet now for ROS at the end of the first half, the odds ML is @4.30, attractive odds and Converge only leads by 4 points.

The Elasto Painters are very much still in this game because like you said that they will play hard as they are chasing that elusive win.

Got ROS +9.5 @2.0 when they are down by 10 points in a certain point of the second quarter and i would not add any bet for now as i think the chance of it winning is more than 50 percent.

I like that ML, they badly need this win and their import are playing very well compared to the import of converge. So maybe they will have this opportunity to win to give the converge their first loss. Remember that it's only a single-round elimination, so it's understandable how desperate the ROS to win. GL!

Actually, no. Rain-or-Shine import is not playing very well compared to Converge import. Don't look at the total points made as even Michael Qualls produce 34 points in that game, he is shooting horribly with only 44% field goal. Ball-hogging at its finest.

Just look at how impressive Converge import Jamaal Franklin establishing 25 PTS, 13 Boards, and 15 Dishes. That's an all-around player performance.

You were looking at the overall stats, I was watching the game at that time and in the first half, it was the import of the Rain or Shine who are playing well. In the 2nd half, the import of converge took over as he was more aggressive that's why they were able to have a big lead.

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Coach Yeng even pointed out that their import is sometimes have an attitude and his frustration easily affects his performance.

There's a reason to be frustrated because the locals are not contributing much, they cannot just rely on the import to bring the team to a win against a good team.

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Quote from: Botnake on February 02, 2023, 07:21:00 AM

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I won my first game bet, I got a live bet Phoenix ML when they are down, the odds is 2.00 and I'm happy for it. Now, going to the 2nd game, I think I'm now tempted with the odds of ROS, they are still winless, so I'm expecting that they will play harder to beat the undefeated converge team.

If you are to bet now for ROS at the end of the first half, the odds ML is @4.30, attractive odds and Converge only leads by 4 points.

The Elasto Painters are very much still in this game because like you said that they will play hard as they are chasing that elusive win.

Got ROS +9.5 @2.0 when they are down by 10 points in a certain point of the second quarter and i would not add any bet for now as i think the chance of it winning is more than 50 percent.

I like that ML, they badly need this win and their import are playing very well compared to the import of converge. So maybe they will have this opportunity to win to give the converge their first loss. Remember that it's only a single-round elimination, so it's understandable how desperate the ROS to win. GL!

Actually, no. Rain-or-Shine import is not playing very well compared to Converge import. Don't look at the total points made as even Michael Qualls produce 34 points in that game, he is shooting horribly with only 44% field goal. Ball-hogging at its finest.

Just look at how impressive Converge import Jamaal Franklin establishing 25 PTS, 13 Boards, and 15 Dishes. That's an all-around player performance.

Coach Yeng even pointed out that their import is sometimes have an attitude and his frustration easily affects his performance.

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Quote from: goinmerry on February 02, 2023, 06:59:12 PM

Converge XFibers is really seriously competing as an independent team. They have a good start.

Although it's expected that once playoffs come, an SMC or MVP team might spoil their good run in the eliminations.

But who knows if they can upset those teams. I'm looking forward on that now that they have a good import who just recently established a triple-double performance.

They are since they entered the league 2 seasons ago.

In their first season, they managed to place 7th, but lost to the TNT who went to the Finals on that season in just one game. The second season is just last season where they placed as high as 3rd at the rankings, but ended up in the 5th spot and lost to SMB in 2 games.

Now entering their 3rd season this Governor's Cup, they are still undefeated with 4-0 record. The Converge FiberXers is a team to be reckoned with because at their current pace of playing, they might beat those giant companies like SMC and MVP in the playoffs unless... you know what I mean already. Cheesy

Anyway, I'll watch out for Converge this conference and maybe putting some bets on them will make me money.

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Converge XFibers is really seriously competing as an independent team. They have a good start.

Although it's expected that once playoffs come, an SMC or MVP team might spoil their good run in the eliminations.

But who knows if they can upset those teams. I'm looking forward on that now that they have a good import who just recently established a triple-double performance.

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I won my first game bet, I got a live bet Phoenix ML when they are down, the odds is 2.00 and I'm happy for it. Now, going to the 2nd game, I think I'm now tempted with the odds of ROS, they are still winless, so I'm expecting that they will play harder to beat the undefeated converge team.

If you are to bet now for ROS at the end of the first half, the odds ML is @4.30, attractive odds and Converge only leads by 4 points.

The Elasto Painters are very much still in this game because like you said that they will play hard as they are chasing that elusive win.

Got ROS +9.5 @2.0 when they are down by 10 points in a certain point of the second quarter and i would not add any bet for now as i think the chance of it winning is more than 50 percent.

I like that ML, they badly need this win and their import are playing very well compared to the import of converge. So maybe they will have this opportunity to win to give the converge their first loss. Remember that it's only a single-round elimination, so it's understandable how desperate the ROS to win. GL!

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Quote from: Hypnosis00 on February 02, 2023, 05:47:35 AM

I won my first game bet, I got a live bet Phoenix ML when they are down, the odds is 2.00 and I'm happy for it. Now, going to the 2nd game, I think I'm now tempted with the odds of ROS, they are still winless, so I'm expecting that they will play harder to beat the undefeated converge team.

If you are to bet now for ROS at the end of the first half, the odds ML is @4.30, attractive odds and Converge only leads by 4 points.

The Elasto Painters are very much still in this game because like you said that they will play hard as they are chasing that elusive win.

Got ROS +9.5 @2.0 when they are down by 10 points in a certain point of the second quarter and i would not add any bet for now as i think the chance of it winning is more than 50 percent.

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Rain or shine vs Converge are playing now.

Converge already taken a double digit lead but it seems like Rain or shine are not going anywhere. The lead is down to 4 points only at the end of first half. So anyone here taking the ROS spread at +7.5, or 4.10 at ML. I'm also thinking of betting converge under 110.5, 2nd half should be more physical, so it will be a low scoring game.

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Quote from: Hypnosis00 on February 02, 2023, 05:47:35 AM

I won my first game bet, I got a live bet Phoenix ML when they are down, the odds is 2.00 and I'm happy for it. Now, going to the 2nd game, I think I'm now tempted with the odds of ROS, they are still winless, so I'm expecting that they will play harder to beat the undefeated converge team.

Congratulations, that was an easy win. Northport really cannot be trusted as they don't have their best players, they were leading early but gave up their lead, actually, Phoenix had led as high as 26 points, although in the 4th quarter, Northport had some big run it wasn't enough to make it a close game and give the phoenix a scare.

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I won my first game bet, I got a live bet Phoenix ML when they are down, the odds is 2.00 and I'm happy for it. Now, going to the 2nd game, I think I'm now tempted with the odds of ROS, they are still winless, so I'm expecting that they will play harder to beat the undefeated converge team.

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2 games will be played today.

The first game is a battle of 2 teams who are still win-less right now. Phoenix Vs. NorthPort. It's hard to pick which team will win on this one because both of them are still winless. I'll put my bet on NorthPort on this one just because it's attractive and I believe Munzon and Tolentino will step up aside from their import.

On the second game, it's the battle of a team which is winless and a team which doesn't have any loss currently. Converge Vs. Rain or Shine. ML odds isn't attractive at all so maybe a +7.5 spread on Converge (base on Stake) is more attractive. I believe that they will cover that one knowing how they are playing right now.

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Jonathan Simmons is an explosive import but Hudson got more support from the locals so i think NLEX will be having a hard time winning this game, as of this writing TNT is up 11 points but still a lot of time remaining, 16 minutes to play to be exact and i'm taking now NLEX +9.5 @1.76. Hope Simmons will continue to explode in the fourth and make this a close one.

Congratulations, that 4th quarter big run give you a win, not only that they cover that +9.5 but they win the game. they only need one quarter to beat the TNT because TNT has been dominating the 1st 3 quarters, nice game it was a very close one but the import of TNT has become predictable in the 4th quarter.

That huge 4th quarter run of NLEX changes the directions of the game, I'm pretty sure most are shock especially those who pick TNT's handicap, I don't expect that with that rally there's no time out that take place, not sure what happen with TNT's squad allowing NLEX to cut that decent lead and snatch this game away from them.

TNT is one of those team who are good in protecting decent lead, like what you mentioned the import become predictable and
NLEX take that advantage to rally back and complete the win..

TNT's field goal percentage in the first six minutes of the fourth quarter was very low, missed some point blank shots and even missed couple of free throws which stopped them from pulling away in the ball game instead the NLEX Road Warriors catches up on them but they played lousy fourth quarter as well but it's just the breaks of the game favors the Road Warriors.

Damn, the ML odds when the Katropa was up by 11 points was NLEX @4.30, should have put some few dollars on that one but i'm not of a risk taker guy hehe but at least i won on this game with that +9.5 HC.

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