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Quote from: Hypnosis00 on February 18, 2023, 04:32:23 AM

Quote from: Fredomago on February 17, 2023, 11:16:16 AM

Hopefully, coach Chot will be mentored by coach Tim in terms of executing a system that will work for the whole squad.

Not with the running gun plays, but a system that will maximize all the talents of each player inside the court.

Perhaps Coach Tim should be the one coaching Gilas Pilipinas. Criticism of Coach Chot will never stop as long as he remains the coach. There is a lot for him to prove because our national team has not been performing well in international competitions. I believe it's Coach Tab's fault; he set a high standard that is difficult to follow and exceed.

I still believe that with the intervention of the government it's not coach chot alone now but also coach Tim who are selecting players and he's helping in creating good system to execute and the blending of players, look who's administering the gilas now, Scottie and Justine will be the main cast plus a healthy JMF with Malonzo and Poguy I think they can help the scoring part while blending them with CJ and other players who also have that heart of gilas to represent the country and try to win games.

Quote from: Russlenat on February 18, 2023, 04:39:34 AM

Let's discuss the ongoing game between DYIP and Phoenix. The first half is over, and Phoenix is holding a significant 19-point lead. I think DYIP will have a hard time coming back in this game due to the huge deficit. Also, it seems that their import, Williams, is not very productive with only 10 points from very poor shooting. This is probably his worst performance with only a 2-10 shooting record so far.

30 points now and less than 5 minutes and I also agree that it will be tough for DYIP to rally back unless Phoenix will give them all the free shots coming in the final quarter. Something that we might not expect but sometimes it's happening but hopefully not today.

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Let's discuss the ongoing game between DYIP and Phoenix. The first half is over, and Phoenix is holding a significant 19-point lead. I think DYIP will have a hard time coming back in this game due to the huge deficit. Also, it seems that their import, Williams, is not very productive with only 10 points from very poor shooting. This is probably his worst performance with only a 2-10 shooting record so far.

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Quote from: Fredomago on February 17, 2023, 11:16:16 AM

Hopefully, coach Chot will be mentored by coach Tim in terms of executing a system that will work for the whole squad.

Not with the running gun plays, but a system that will maximize all the talents of each player inside the court.

Perhaps Coach Tim should be the one coaching Gilas Pilipinas. Criticism of Coach Chot will never stop as long as he remains the coach. There is a lot for him to prove because our national team has not been performing well in international competitions. I believe it's Coach Tab's fault; he set a high standard that is difficult to follow and exceed.

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Quote from: blockman on February 17, 2023, 08:24:57 AM

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Quote from: blockman on February 16, 2023, 05:29:30 PM

Oh, alright.
The Chot's list is there as he's still the one to coach the Gilas. But resorting to that idea, he knew that Kelly is already aged and looking at the line up of other teams.
Some from their roster might also be old enough but look at how massive those players are. No doubt with the experience of Kelly and his achievements but they should have chosen better and younger.
That's more ideal contributor to the team and more athletic but if there's no other option then Kelly fits in then.

That's the problem sometimes even in other countries. Since windows qualifying games usually can clash with the player's availability, there should already be a consideration on who's player will be put up. Those players are in the reserve pool.

But that's not a problem regardless if we don't have a complete lineup since we now have a sure slot on the global competition.

Not saying it's fine to lose but either Gilas will win or lose those 2 games here, the PH is already qualified for the World Cup.

Yeah, I remember when Chot said that it's not really a requirement to win when he's justifying the loss of Gilas. But that's not really a point even if there's a secured slot already.
Those who are available will be prioritized for sure and that's up to the management on who's ready on the pool. I'm sure that many of these players on the pool would be glad to represent the country.

But don't get me wrong. I'm not pointing out Coach Chot's statement.

What I'm saying is, regardless if those expected players are not fit to play at the window qualifying games that will be held here in the country, it's fine since the big deal will be on the main event and those original players should be fit on that time.

It's also a good opportunity to expose the backup players in the window qualifying games especially if the country is already eligible in the main event. In that way, these backup will have some additional experience if ever they will be needed to replace someone urgently during the main event.

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Quote from: Fredomago on February 17, 2023, 11:16:16 AM

Quote from: blockman on February 17, 2023, 08:24:57 AM

Yeah, I remember when Chot said that it's not really a requirement to win when he's justifying the loss of Gilas. But that's not really a point even if there's a secured slot already.
Those who are available will be prioritized for sure and that's up to the management on who's ready on the pool. I'm sure that many of these players on the pool would be glad to represent the country.

Yeah, if there's nothing wrong with how the franchise owners will do, then those who are available will be happy to represent our national flag. I think it's the best achievement a player can be when you are playing for your country. Not with the money, but with the pride where you can bring the glory to your motherland.

Hopefully, coach Chot will be mentored by coach Tim in terms of executing a system that will work for the whole squad.

Not with the running gun plays, but a system that will maximize all the talents of each player inside the court.

Those players that are part of the roster really want to represent the country and whatever is offered to them, it's a big thing already to be part of it.
Chot is something else, he's not willing to work with anyone else. You've seen his ego and it will not change, the problem is on SBP but then, he's like too strong with connections there. I have no hate for him but we saw his run in the past and didn't have the initiative to make the call of people to resign. Too sad that the other great players are in different offshore leagues and became part of the Gilas pool but then, they're not used by Chot, they just heated their seats during those window qualifiers.

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Quote from: blockman on February 17, 2023, 08:24:57 AM

Quote from: goinmerry on February 16, 2023, 06:57:34 PM

Quote from: blockman on February 16, 2023, 05:29:30 PM

Oh, alright.
The Chot's list is there as he's still the one to coach the Gilas. But resorting to that idea, he knew that Kelly is already aged and looking at the line up of other teams.
Some from their roster might also be old enough but look at how massive those players are. No doubt with the experience of Kelly and his achievements but they should have chosen better and younger.
That's more ideal contributor to the team and more athletic but if there's no other option then Kelly fits in then.

That's the problem sometimes even in other countries. Since windows qualifying games usually can clash with the player's availability, there should already be a consideration on who's player will be put up. Those players are in the reserve pool.

But that's not a problem regardless if we don't have a complete lineup since we now have a sure slot on the global competition.

Not saying it's fine to lose but either Gilas will win or lose those 2 games here, the PH is already qualified for the World Cup.

Yeah, I remember when Chot said that it's not really a requirement to win when he's justifying the loss of Gilas. But that's not really a point even if there's a secured slot already.
Those who are available will be prioritized for sure and that's up to the management on who's ready on the pool. I'm sure that many of these players on the pool would be glad to represent the country.

Yeah, if there's nothing wrong with how the franchise owners will do, then those who are available will be happy to represent our national flag. I think it's the best achievement a player can be when you are playing for your country. Not with the money, but with the pride where you can bring the glory to your motherland.

Hopefully, coach Chot will be mentored by coach Tim in terms of executing a system that will work for the whole squad.

Not with the running gun plays, but a system that will maximize all the talents of each player inside the court.

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Quote from: Johnyz on February 17, 2023, 08:15:32 AM

Quote from: Natalim on February 17, 2023, 05:49:34 AM

Quote from: Sanitough on February 17, 2023, 04:18:44 AM

Mikey Williams and Calvin Oftana are the two local leaders who scored 25 and 19 points, respectively

TNT has a lot of shooters. Although Pogoy is down, it did not affect the team's overall performance. In fact, they still managed to show their dominance with a big win.

This is how the team should play, and they should not rely to one player only and with their import.
TNT managed to get the win despite of a good run of their opponent, it was a great game for both teams.

TNT is composed of good players, they are in the good spot right now going into the next round, they should play consistently.
TNT will play against SMB, this will be a big game and whoever wins the game will take the solo lead.

This will be a wild weekend, and expect the crowd to support their favorite team and with TNT, I can say that they also have a good number of fans.

Any odds available already for this game? I think SMB will be the favorite team to win here as usual but the way TNT played this conference, I think they also have a good chance to win here especially if they will play with a team effort here again. This will be a high scoring game for sure, will have to look for a better odds here in favor to TNT.

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Quote from: goinmerry on February 16, 2023, 06:57:34 PM

Quote from: blockman on February 16, 2023, 05:29:30 PM

Oh, alright.
The Chot's list is there as he's still the one to coach the Gilas. But resorting to that idea, he knew that Kelly is already aged and looking at the line up of other teams.
Some from their roster might also be old enough but look at how massive those players are. No doubt with the experience of Kelly and his achievements but they should have chosen better and younger.
That's more ideal contributor to the team and more athletic but if there's no other option then Kelly fits in then.

That's the problem sometimes even in other countries. Since windows qualifying games usually can clash with the player's availability, there should already be a consideration on who's player will be put up. Those players are in the reserve pool.

But that's not a problem regardless if we don't have a complete lineup since we now have a sure slot on the global competition.

Not saying it's fine to lose but either Gilas will win or lose those 2 games here, the PH is already qualified for the World Cup.

Yeah, I remember when Chot said that it's not really a requirement to win when he's justifying the loss of Gilas. But that's not really a point even if there's a secured slot already.
Those who are available will be prioritized for sure and that's up to the management on who's ready on the pool. I'm sure that many of these players on the pool would be glad to represent the country.

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Quote from: Natalim on February 17, 2023, 05:49:34 AM

Quote from: Sanitough on February 17, 2023, 04:18:44 AM

Mikey Williams and Calvin Oftana are the two local leaders who scored 25 and 19 points, respectively

TNT has a lot of shooters. Although Pogoy is down, it did not affect the team's overall performance. In fact, they still managed to show their dominance with a big win.

This is how the team should play, and they should not rely to one player only and with their import.
TNT managed to get the win despite of a good run of their opponent, it was a great game for both teams.

TNT is composed of good players, they are in the good spot right now going into the next round, they should play consistently.
TNT will play against SMB, this will be a big game and whoever wins the game will take the solo lead.

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Quote from: Natalim on February 17, 2023, 05:49:34 AM

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Quote from: Kelvinid on February 17, 2023, 03:36:46 AM

Quote from: Maslate on February 17, 2023, 03:11:17 AM

Meanwhile, we have TNT versus Meralco playing now, and the first half is over, with TNT already up by 14 points. Will Meralco make a comeback in the second half?

So far, TNT is still leading the game, and this could be a chance for Meralco to mount a comeback, especially now that Pogoy has sprained his ankle. They need to win the 3rd quarter and finish the job in the 4th quarter. TNT has too much offensive power, but what happened to Meralco's defensive prowess? They are known for being a good defensive team.

The Bolts had a little run in the 4th quarter, but they were already out of time. They won't make it this time. Although these teams are sister teams, there will be no "sagip Kapamilya" like what Ginebra did to the Magnolia Hotshots. TNT will continue their good winning streak, and with a good import and contributions from the locals, they will be championship contenders this conference.

The run was too late; they should have made it in the third quarter so that in the fourth quarter, the pressure would not have been so high. It's good that TNT won this game. They need to be at the top so that they will have the twice-to-beat advantage. Actually, the top 4 teams will enjoy that advantage. Meralco's import does not have good outside shooting, and neither does the whole team. On the other hand, TNT is a team of good outside shooters, but the problem is that Meralco was not able to defend well.

It's the same run that Ginebra did against SMB. It's just unfortunate that they were not able to complete the run. The game could have gone to OT if Nard Pinto was able to hit another 3-point shot. It was just a bad decision on his end; he was able to get the ball back after missing a shot, and he should have just passed it to Brownlee to take the last shot for a higher percentage.

This is the second time Brownlee has been outperformed by an import this conference, and it comes after their two straight losses. Brownlee amost has a triple-double, but the impact is not significant: 21 points, 12 rebounds, and 9 assists. Meanwhile, Clark, the import of SMB, made the following contributions: 35 points, 10 rebounds, and 2 assists.

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Quote from: Sanitough on February 17, 2023, 04:18:44 AM

Quote from: Kelvinid on February 17, 2023, 03:36:46 AM

Quote from: Maslate on February 17, 2023, 03:11:17 AM

Meanwhile, we have TNT versus Meralco playing now, and the first half is over, with TNT already up by 14 points. Will Meralco make a comeback in the second half?

So far, TNT is still leading the game, and this could be a chance for Meralco to mount a comeback, especially now that Pogoy has sprained his ankle. They need to win the 3rd quarter and finish the job in the 4th quarter. TNT has too much offensive power, but what happened to Meralco's defensive prowess? They are known for being a good defensive team.

The Bolts had a little run in the 4th quarter, but they were already out of time. They won't make it this time. Although these teams are sister teams, there will be no "sagip Kapamilya" like what Ginebra did to the Magnolia Hotshots. TNT will continue their good winning streak, and with a good import and contributions from the locals, they will be championship contenders this conference.

The run was too late; they should have made it in the third quarter so that in the fourth quarter, the pressure would not have been so high. It's good that TNT won this game. They need to be at the top so that they will have the twice-to-beat advantage. Actually, the top 4 teams will enjoy that advantage. Meralco's import does not have good outside shooting, and neither does the whole team. On the other hand, TNT is a team of good outside shooters, but the problem is that Meralco was not able to defend well.

Quote from: Sanitough on February 17, 2023, 04:18:44 AM

Mikey Williams and Calvin Oftana are the two local leaders who scored 25 and 19 points, respectively

TNT has a lot of shooters. Although Pogoy is down, it did not affect the team's overall performance. In fact, they still managed to show their dominance with a big win.

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Quote from: Maslate on February 17, 2023, 03:11:17 AM

Meanwhile, we have TNT versus Meralco playing now, and the first half is over, with TNT already up by 14 points. Will Meralco make a comeback in the second half?

So far, TNT is still leading the game, and this could be a chance for Meralco to mount a comeback, especially now that Pogoy has sprained his ankle. They need to win the 3rd quarter and finish the job in the 4th quarter. TNT has too much offensive power, but what happened to Meralco's defensive prowess? They are known for being a good defensive team.

The Bolts had a little run in the 4th quarter, but they were already out of time. They won't make it this time. Although these teams are sister teams, there will be no "sagip Kapamilya" like what Ginebra did to the Magnolia Hotshots. TNT will continue their good winning streak, and with a good import and contributions from the locals, they will be championship contenders this conference.

Mikey Williams and Calvin Oftana are the two local leaders who scored 25 and 19 points, respectively

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Quote from: Maslate on February 17, 2023, 03:11:17 AM

Meanwhile, we have TNT versus Meralco playing now, and the first half is over, with TNT already up by 14 points. Will Meralco make a comeback in the second half?

So far, TNT is still leading the game, and this could be a chance for Meralco to mount a comeback, especially now that Pogoy has sprained his ankle. They need to win the 3rd quarter and finish the job in the 4th quarter. TNT has too much offensive power, but what happened to Meralco's defensive prowess? They are known for being a good defensive team.

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Quote from: Hypnosis00 on February 16, 2023, 06:30:43 AM

Magnolia is currently playing against NLEX.

I noticed that Smart Sports no longer has a live stream on their Facebook page. What happened? Why are they no longer sharing the live stream? I am currently watching a live stream from an unknown streamer, but the audio quality is not very good.

They aren't doing a livestream if the game isn't played by either Ginebra or SMB. JK Tongue

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Anyway, I can't find it either because they aren't broadcasting it on live television especially the first game. I tried to search it as well, but can't find any. I guess these live streams from unknown streamer is kind of helpful at least to us PBA fans who want to watch it at least on livestream.

But it's an illegal stream, so don't complain about the interruptions. It's better than having no live stream at all, right?

Quote from: LogitechMouse on February 16, 2023, 09:49:58 PM

The 1st game was a close one, but I don't know why the ROS's import didn't play yesterday, but nevertheless, a close win for them against the TerraFirma Dyip. The 2nd game is what I'm disappointed at. I did watch the game, NLEX had a double digit lead in the first half, but it disappeared coming into the 2nd half. At the same time, NLEX's import is like Hudson who can't play on the inside as well. He is more of a shooter, but not as efficient as Hudson. I don't know if it's only me, but if the NLEX will lose again after this loss, they might wanna change their import.

DYIP is such a farm team that they can't even win a game with an import against an opponent that has no import. This would only indicate that ROS is a good team, but they will face a bigger test if they play against a team at the top. Anyway, a win is a win, and that's something to celebrate if you are Coach Yeng.

Meanwhile, we have TNT versus Meralco playing now, and the first half is over, with TNT already up by 14 points. Will Meralco make a comeback in the second half?

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Quote from: Hypnosis00 on February 16, 2023, 06:30:43 AM

Magnolia is currently playing against NLEX.

I noticed that Smart Sports no longer has a live stream on their Facebook page. What happened? Why are they no longer sharing the live stream? I am currently watching a live stream from an unknown streamer, but the audio quality is not very good.

They aren't doing a livestream if the game isn't played by either Ginebra or SMB. JK Tongue

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Anyway, I can't find it either because they aren't broadcasting it on live television especially the first game. I tried to search it as well, but can't find any. I guess these live streams from unknown streamer is kind of helpful at least to us PBA fans who want to watch it at least on livestream.

The 1st game was a close one, but I don't know why the ROS's import didn't play yesterday, but nevertheless, a close win for them against the TerraFirma Dyip. The 2nd game is what I'm disappointed at. I did watch the game, NLEX had a double digit lead in the first half, but it disappeared coming into the 2nd half. At the same time, NLEX's import is like Hudson who can't play on the inside as well. He is more of a shooter, but not as efficient as Hudson. I don't know if it's only me, but if the NLEX will lose again after this loss, they might wanna change their import.

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Quote from: blockman on February 15, 2023, 04:57:58 PM

Yeah, most of the big men will be absent on the next window and that's why they even added Williams on the pool even if he's too old enough to be part of it.
I do agree that Mo is a good addition to be considered by them but maybe, they really have considered that but Mo or his management didn't agree with to their wishlist.

Kelly might have the advantage as he's playing for coach Chot that's why instead of Mo' coach Chot list him instead, not sure but I also agree that William's age might not be fit anymore with international games, it will be depend now with how coach Chot and the rest of the coaching group to execute the plays, let's hope for the best!

Oh, alright.
The Chot's list is there as he's still the one to coach the Gilas. But resorting to that idea, he knew that Kelly is already aged and looking at the line up of other teams.
Some from their roster might also be old enough but look at how massive those players are. No doubt with the experience of Kelly and his achievements but they should have chosen better and younger.
That's more ideal contributor to the team and more athletic but if there's no other option then Kelly fits in then.

That's the problem sometimes even in other countries. Since windows qualifying games usually can clash with the player's availability, there should already be a consideration on who's player will be put up. Those players are in the reserve pool.

But that's not a problem regardless if we don't have a complete lineup since we now have a sure slot on the global competition.

Not saying it's fine to lose but either Gilas will win or lose those 2 games here, the PH is already qualified for the World Cup.

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Quote from: Hypnosis00 on February 16, 2023, 06:30:43 AM

I noticed that Smart Sports no longer has a live stream on their Facebook page. What happened? Why are they no longer sharing the live stream? I am currently watching a live stream from an unknown streamer, but the audio quality is not very good.

I tried to search for it but no news or announcement they have made

As far as I know, live streaming on Smart Sports is not on regular basis. There is a scheduled for it and I believed that in most cases, Thursday's games are not being live stream even on other main channels. To confirm if they really stop streaming live games, try to check on Sunday's game if they will cover it live.

I truly understand the frustration of watching from a random streamer but you have to expect that quality.

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Quote from: Fredomago on February 16, 2023, 01:51:19 AM

Quote from: blockman on February 15, 2023, 04:57:58 PM

Yeah, most of the big men will be absent on the next window and that's why they even added Williams on the pool even if he's too old enough to be part of it.
I do agree that Mo is a good addition to be considered by them but maybe, they really have considered that but Mo or his management didn't agree with to their wishlist.

Kelly might have the advantage as he's playing for coach Chot that's why instead of Mo' coach Chot list him instead, not sure but I also agree that William's age might not be fit anymore with international games, it will be depend now with how coach Chot and the rest of the coaching group to execute the plays, let's hope for the best!

Oh, alright.
The Chot's list is there as he's still the one to coach the Gilas. But resorting to that idea, he knew that Kelly is already aged and looking at the line up of other teams.
Some from their roster might also be old enough but look at how massive those players are. No doubt with the experience of Kelly and his achievements but they should have chosen better and younger.
That's more ideal contributor to the team and more athletic but if there's no other option then Kelly fits in then.

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Quote from: Ziskinberg on February 16, 2023, 06:45:50 AM

Quote from: Hypnosis00 on February 16, 2023, 06:30:43 AM

Magnolia is currently playing against NLEX.

It's a close game, just like the first game where ROS won by only 2 points. Honestly, I thought DYIP would beat ROS because they were playing without an import, but it looks like DYIP's import wasn't 100% in that game.

Magnolia vs NLEX was a close game up until the end of the first half but things changed when the Hotshots stepped on that accelerator pedal in the third quarter and fourth as they are now leading by 20 big points with 3 minutes to go.

Didn't know what happened here as i don't watch the game live because Smart Sports no longer stream PBA live games but just lucky to have bet for Magnolia Hotshots +2.5 @1.86 when they are down by 8 points somewhere in the third canto, usually i end up losing with this kind of betting style but i think i would win this one hehe.

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Quote from: Hypnosis00 on February 16, 2023, 06:30:43 AM

Magnolia is currently playing against NLEX.

It's a close game, just like the first game where ROS won by only 2 points. Honestly, I thought DYIP would beat ROS because they were playing without an import, but it looks like DYIP's import wasn't 100% in that game.

Quote from: Hypnosis00 on February 16, 2023, 06:30:43 AM

I noticed that Smart Sports no longer has a live stream on their Facebook page. What happened? Why are they no longer sharing the live stream? I am currently watching a live stream from an unknown streamer, but the audio quality is not very good.

Yeah, they are not hosting a live stream now. I have no idea what happened, as they haven't made any announcement regarding this matter.

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