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Quote from: Maslate on February 06, 2023, 07:43:22 AM

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Quote from: Botnake on February 06, 2023, 05:47:40 AM

There's only one way to find out, they need to win their game next time. Next game will be this February 10, they'll be playing the Phoenix SUER LPG, I think they have a chance of winning here, but it still defends if they will get a good import, because if they'll have the same import as their present, then most likely that losing streak will continue.

Exactly, however, let's look at the highlights play of their new import which is Antonio Hester.
https://www.spin.ph/basketball/pba/magnolia-taps-antonio-hester-to-replace-import-eric-mccree-a793-20230205

We can check his stats here ; https://www.proballers.com/basketball/player/64141/antonio-hester
and one of his highlights. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XsY5S-dyrGg

At least we now have an idea about him, and based on the highlights, he is not new in the PBA.

Thanks for sharing, a little idea is good enough, besides, I don't think there's a big pressure on him as Magnolia remove their import since it has not met their expectation, so he will be replacing and they are just hoping they'll be right this time. Magnolia is a good team, you can see how good they are on their defense, but not having a consistent scorer which is supposed to be an import will make this team suffer.

Their import only score 13 points, that's below standard of an import, it should be 20+.

And that's not enough and not good for someone who's being paid a lot to bring help to the team, Yes, Magnolia is a good team and even they don't have a good import but they manage to lose the with a closer outcome, the locals are pushing their chance it's so happen that the import is not that good to reinforce them against the import of their opponents.

If the import can provide additional offensive threat, the winning chance is really high for this team, we will see and test the new one next game, let's see if he will be able to fill the gap and make the team more competitive again.

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Quote from: Yamifoud on February 06, 2023, 06:11:06 AM

Quote from: Botnake on February 06, 2023, 05:47:40 AM

There's only one way to find out, they need to win their game next time. Next game will be this February 10, they'll be playing the Phoenix SUER LPG, I think they have a chance of winning here, but it still defends if they will get a good import, because if they'll have the same import as their present, then most likely that losing streak will continue.

Exactly, however, let's look at the highlights play of their new import which is Antonio Hester.
https://www.spin.ph/basketball/pba/magnolia-taps-antonio-hester-to-replace-import-eric-mccree-a793-20230205

We can check his stats here ; https://www.proballers.com/basketball/player/64141/antonio-hester
and one of his highlights. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XsY5S-dyrGg

At least we now have an idea about him, and based on the highlights, he is not new in the PBA.

Thanks for sharing, a little idea is good enough, besides, I don't think there's a big pressure on him as Magnolia remove their import since it has not met their expectation, so he will be replacing and they are just hoping they'll be right this time. Magnolia is a good team, you can see how good they are on their defense, but not having a consistent scorer which is supposed to be an import will make this team suffer.

Their import only score 13 points, that's below standard of an import, it should be 20+.

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Quote from: Botnake on February 06, 2023, 05:47:40 AM

There's only one way to find out, they need to win their game next time. Next game will be this February 10, they'll be playing the Phoenix SUER LPG, I think they have a chance of winning here, but it still defends if they will get a good import, because if they'll have the same import as their present, then most likely that losing streak will continue.

Exactly, however, let's look at the highlights play of their new import which is Antonio Hester.
https://www.spin.ph/basketball/pba/magnolia-taps-antonio-hester-to-replace-import-eric-mccree-a793-20230205

We can check his stats here ; https://www.proballers.com/basketball/player/64141/antonio-hester
and one of his highlights. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XsY5S-dyrGg

At least we now have an idea about him, and based on the highlights, he is not new in the PBA.

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Quote from: Fredomago on February 06, 2023, 05:13:41 AM

Quote from: Questat on February 06, 2023, 04:19:03 AM

Quote from: goinmerry on February 05, 2023, 06:54:56 PM

Quote from: Fredomago on February 05, 2023, 06:48:54 PM

Just so happened that they've short in the last minute that's why they've got two early losses.

Yeah, they almost got a win against SMB possibly with Paul Lee's clutch shot. But if only their import is playing well in the entire game, there's no need for that clutch shot moment. Can't imagine Magnolia's import only scored 13 points in that long playing time. It's not how the import should be.

Magnolia did a good job of fixing the import problem right away and decided to replace him before anything much worst happened. It's quite unusual to see the Magnolia Hotshots in a 0-3 starting record at any conference involving an import.

They are in a losing streak, that's already a bad start for them. For them to win, they should get an import as good as Brownlee, I mean, they should use Brownlee as a standard in getting an import because if Brownlee will still dominates, that would mean Ginebra will be the champion again.

Brownlee is surrounded by good and athletic players plus the longest winning coach, so what to expect with this team? Though you are right, with the logic that they should hire a good import that can compete well with what Brownlee brings to his team, Mags locals are really competitive they need someone to help them to compete, with that performances from the last import I don't see them to move forward and be on the next round.

Now, we will see what the new import can bring them and how he will manage to campaign for winning games.

There's only one way to find out, they need to win their game next time. Next game will be this February 10, they'll be playing the Phoenix SUER LPG, I think they have a chance of winning here, but it still defends if they will get a good import, because if they'll have the same import as their present, then most likely that losing streak will continue.

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Quote from: Questat on February 06, 2023, 04:19:03 AM

Quote from: goinmerry on February 05, 2023, 06:54:56 PM

Quote from: Fredomago on February 05, 2023, 06:48:54 PM

Just so happened that they've short in the last minute that's why they've got two early losses.

Yeah, they almost got a win against SMB possibly with Paul Lee's clutch shot. But if only their import is playing well in the entire game, there's no need for that clutch shot moment. Can't imagine Magnolia's import only scored 13 points in that long playing time. It's not how the import should be.

Magnolia did a good job of fixing the import problem right away and decided to replace him before anything much worst happened. It's quite unusual to see the Magnolia Hotshots in a 0-3 starting record at any conference involving an import.

They are in a losing streak, that's already a bad start for them. For them to win, they should get an import as good as Brownlee, I mean, they should use Brownlee as a standard in getting an import because if Brownlee will still dominates, that would mean Ginebra will be the champion again.

Brownlee is surrounded by good and athletic players plus the longest winning coach, so what to expect with this team? Though you are right, with the logic that they should hire a good import that can compete well with what Brownlee brings to his team, Mags locals are really competitive they need someone to help them to compete, with that performances from the last import I don't see them to move forward and be on the next round.

Now, we will see what the new import can bring them and how he will manage to campaign for winning games.

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Quote from: goinmerry on February 05, 2023, 06:54:56 PM

Quote from: Fredomago on February 05, 2023, 06:48:54 PM

Just so happened that they've short in the last minute that's why they've got two early losses.

Yeah, they almost got a win against SMB possibly with Paul Lee's clutch shot. But if only their import is playing well in the entire game, there's no need for that clutch shot moment. Can't imagine Magnolia's import only scored 13 points in that long playing time. It's not how the import should be.

Magnolia did a good job of fixing the import problem right away and decided to replace him before anything much worst happened. It's quite unusual to see the Magnolia Hotshots in a 0-3 starting record at any conference involving an import.

They are in a losing streak, that's already a bad start for them. For them to win, they should get an import as good as Brownlee, I mean, they should use Brownlee as a standard in getting an import because if Brownlee will still dominates, that would mean Ginebra will be the champion again.

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Quote from: goinmerry on February 05, 2023, 06:54:56 PM

Quote from: Fredomago on February 05, 2023, 06:48:54 PM

Just so happened that they've short in the last minute that's why they've got two early losses.

Yeah, they almost got a win against SMB possibly with Paul Lee's clutch shot. But if only their import is playing well in the entire game, there's no need for that clutch shot moment. Can't imagine Magnolia's import only scored 13 points in that long playing time. It's not how the import should be.

Magnolia did a good job of fixing the import problem right away and decided to replace him before anything much worst happened. It's quite unusual to see the Magnolia Hotshots in a 0-3 starting record at any conference involving an import.

https://www.spin.ph/basketball/pba/magnolia-taps-antonio-hester-to-replace-import-eric-mccree-a793-20230205

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Not wasting much time, the Hotshots decided to bring in a returning import in Antonio Hester in a bid to turn their campaign around in the PBA Governors Cup.

A returning import that played in TerraFirma a few years ago. His name was familiar when I first saw it, and I saw the pictures where he played in TerraFirma.

It's a good move by the Magnolia to replace McCree because he only played well on his first game, but completely shut down on his next 2 games where he only scored 13 and 12 points respectively. A one bad game for an import in our league is considered unacceptable already, but to do it twice? There is a problem with him already.

Anyway, the Hotshots must win most of their games or they will end up at the bottom of the spot. I don't know, but in order for a team to clinch into the playoffs, they must win at least 5 in order to have a slim chance and 6 to secure the spot. In Magnolia's case, they must win 6 on their last 8 games if they want to enter the playoffs. Their import replacement will be a huge factor towards Magnolia's run this Governor's Cup.

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Quote from: Fredomago on February 05, 2023, 06:48:54 PM

Just so happened that they've short in the last minute that's why they've got two early losses.

Yeah, they almost got a win against SMB possibly with Paul Lee's clutch shot. But if only their import is playing well in the entire game, there's no need for that clutch shot moment. Can't imagine Magnolia's import only scored 13 points in that long playing time. It's not how the import should be.

Magnolia did a good job of fixing the import problem right away and decided to replace him before anything much worst happened. It's quite unusual to see the Magnolia Hotshots in a 0-3 starting record at any conference involving an import.

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Quote from: harizen on February 05, 2023, 06:24:15 PM

Quote from: jakelyson on February 05, 2023, 05:43:02 PM

I have not watched their first matches but based on their performance last night, I think their import is still good.

After the dominating performance of their import against Converge last Jan. 29, in which he established 38 points in 43 mins, they still lose that game.

- against SMB last night, 13 points; 45 mins
- against TNT on Feb. 3, 12 points; 42 mins

Magnolia Hotshots is about to change their import, Erik McCree due to his poor performance in their last 2 games. That 2 consecutive games stats of their import is not expected for any imports. Antonio Hester will be their new import starting next game.

Thanks for the headsup let see if there's a good result after changing their imports, the locals are still doing good still in the same routine but without the help or without a good production from thier import they will be having difficulty winning the game. The new import needs to adjust with how the team rotates the ball and how they play the game.

Execution wise, Magnolia is good in terms of offensive executions while with their defense they are also good in restricting the team to completely dominates.

Just so happened that they've short in the last minute that's why they've got two early losses.

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Quote from: jakelyson on February 05, 2023, 05:43:02 PM

I have not watched their first matches but based on their performance last night, I think their import is still good.

After the dominating performance of their import against Converge last Jan. 29, in which he established 38 points in 43 mins, they still lose that game.

- against SMB last night, 13 points; 45 mins
- against TNT on Feb. 3, 12 points; 42 mins

Magnolia Hotshots is about to change their import, Erik McCree due to his poor performance in their last 2 games. That 2 consecutive games stats of their import is not expected for any imports. Antonio Hester will be their new import starting next game.

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Quote from: LogitechMouse on February 05, 2023, 09:50:53 AM

Now, three teams are winless. Magnolia, Rain or Shine and NorthPort. I expect an import change with 1 or more with these 3 teams.

Northport was playing without Bolick when they got their losses. I think their import is playing well and with Bolick back on the roster, they will start winning again. Rain or Shine has poor local performance. They distributed the ball poorly on their first few games that caused their game. Maybe they can change their import but if the locals do not put their acts together, it will still be hard for them to win. I think the locals of Magnolia are playing well. I have not watched their first matches but based on their performance last night, I think their import is still good.

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Quote from: mirakal on February 05, 2023, 08:21:33 AM

Quote from: goaldigger on February 05, 2023, 08:14:23 AM

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Quote from: Japinat on February 05, 2023, 05:59:17 AM

And the 4th quarter belongs to the Magnolia, it's just unfortunate that they ran out of timeout so they cannot make the right play for the last shot. It was a thrilling game, CJ Perez missed 2 information FT's that could have give them a 4 point lead, good thing for them that Paul Lee miss the last shot which is a 3 point shot, it could have been a big disappointment for the team.

Thrilling game indeed and SMB Beermen were just lucky to escape the rally mounted by Magnolia in the fourth quarter.

So, we have another close game here between the Ginebra Kings and the ROS Elasto Painters. 80-81 is the score after 3 quarters of play and i'm lucky to have pushed the bet button for Ginebra ML @2.55 when the Elastopainters were up by 7 points.

Hoping that Ginebra will finished off ROS in the fourth quarter Grin

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It was an intense games for today, and didn't expect this high quality game early this conference.
Both Magnolia and ROS lose on their respective games and they are so eager to have their first win unfortunately their opponent is too good for them but it was a close game so nothing to ashamed of. Magnolia had a closer chance of winning the game, but SMB manage to escape that and take the win. Ginebra on the other hand are controlling the game, its too late for ROS to have a run but still a close one. Missed to bet for todays game, will try to catch up next game.

Ginebra did finish the ROS in the 4th quarter, however, I'm not sure if Ginebra did cover the spread because that 3 point shot taken by ROS could probably destroy the spread if it was Ginebra -8.5. When Brownlee took over, ROS has no answer anymore and they seem to lose the defense they showed in the 3rd quarter.

That last shot might gain another controversial hahaha, I remembered that last shot from Mambatac and it almost cause his life recieving lots of threats from bettors who lose their bets because of that last wild shot from Mambatac, I wish it serves my memory right but if I mistakenly name him please correct me,.

Regarding to the games earlier, Both SMB and Gin kings win their games, Both Mags and RoS unable to snatch the game due to that good chemistries of each players who played the last minutes.

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Quote from: mirakal on February 05, 2023, 08:21:33 AM

Quote from: goaldigger on February 05, 2023, 08:14:23 AM

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Quote from: Japinat on February 05, 2023, 05:59:17 AM

And the 4th quarter belongs to the Magnolia, it's just unfortunate that they ran out of timeout so they cannot make the right play for the last shot. It was a thrilling game, CJ Perez missed 2 information FT's that could have give them a 4 point lead, good thing for them that Paul Lee miss the last shot which is a 3 point shot, it could have been a big disappointment for the team.

Thrilling game indeed and SMB Beermen were just lucky to escape the rally mounted by Magnolia in the fourth quarter.

So, we have another close game here between the Ginebra Kings and the ROS Elasto Painters. 80-81 is the score after 3 quarters of play and i'm lucky to have pushed the bet button for Ginebra ML @2.55 when the Elastopainters were up by 7 points.

Hoping that Ginebra will finished off ROS in the fourth quarter Grin

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It was an intense games for today, and didn't expect this high quality game early this conference.
Both Magnolia and ROS lose on their respective games and they are so eager to have their first win unfortunately their opponent is too good for them but it was a close game so nothing to ashamed of. Magnolia had a closer chance of winning the game, but SMB manage to escape that and take the win. Ginebra on the other hand are controlling the game, its too late for ROS to have a run but still a close one. Missed to bet for todays game, will try to catch up next game.

Ginebra did finish the ROS in the 4th quarter, however, I'm not sure if Ginebra did cover the spread because that 3 point shot taken by ROS could probably destroy the spread if it was Ginebra -8.5. When Brownlee took over, ROS has no answer anymore and they seem to lose the defense they showed in the 3rd quarter.

If it's -8.5 then nope because the game ended with a score of 116-108.

I guess it's good that I'm busy while the game is on-going because I didn't have a chance to put my bet on to any teams. A while ago, I want to put my bet on ROS because of how they played last conference, but it's good that I didn't because they lost.

6 players from Ginebra scored in double digits and our Kabayan Brownlee got a triple-double in his first game on the Governor's Cup this season. 29 points, 10 rebounds and 11 assists. Just wow I guess. Qualls on the other hand scored 23 points, but had a poor shooting night with only 7/21.

Now, three teams are winless. Magnolia, Rain or Shine and NorthPort. I expect an import change with 1 or more with these 3 teams.

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Quote from: Japinat on February 05, 2023, 04:29:01 AM

The first half is over and Magnolia keeps the lead.

47-51 is the halftime score, and those who trust the SMB to win here will get good odds, 1.60 ML and -3.5 only for the spread.
So what do you think guys? is it worth taking or is it just a trap waiting to collect our money?

Top scorer of the game is Paul Lee with 14 points.

This is a good and exciting game. Magnolia had the chance to win or send the game to overtime when Perez missed both his free throws but San Miguel's defense was so tight. They were able to easily close-in to whoever Magnolia passed the ball. In the end, Paul Lee was forced to make a 3-point hail mary but unfortunately did not go in.

Quote from: mirakal on February 05, 2023, 08:21:33 AM

Ginebra did finish the ROS in the 4th quarter, however, I'm not sure if Ginebra did cover the spread because that 3 point shot taken by ROS could probably destroy the spread if it was Ginebra -8.5. When Brownlee took over, ROS has no answer anymore and they seem to lose the defense they showed in the 3rd quarter.

ROS was able to make a stand in the 3rd even taking the lead but Ginebra was just too much for them. ROS is still missing a consistent contribution from their locals. Ball movement is missing and no local is actually reliable to make a drive to the paint. They have to rely to their import to do that. A lot of adjustment is needed in the plays of ROS if they want to be a contender this conference. Once the defense of Ginebra is activated and Brownlee, as you said, took over, it is over for ROS.

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Quote from: goaldigger on February 05, 2023, 08:14:23 AM

Quote from: bisdak40 on February 05, 2023, 07:38:31 AM

Quote from: Japinat on February 05, 2023, 05:59:17 AM

And the 4th quarter belongs to the Magnolia, it's just unfortunate that they ran out of timeout so they cannot make the right play for the last shot. It was a thrilling game, CJ Perez missed 2 information FT's that could have give them a 4 point lead, good thing for them that Paul Lee miss the last shot which is a 3 point shot, it could have been a big disappointment for the team.

Thrilling game indeed and SMB Beermen were just lucky to escape the rally mounted by Magnolia in the fourth quarter.

So, we have another close game here between the Ginebra Kings and the ROS Elasto Painters. 80-81 is the score after 3 quarters of play and i'm lucky to have pushed the bet button for Ginebra ML @2.55 when the Elastopainters were up by 7 points.

Hoping that Ginebra will finished off ROS in the fourth quarter Grin

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It was an intense games for today, and didn't expect this high quality game early this conference.
Both Magnolia and ROS lose on their respective games and they are so eager to have their first win unfortunately their opponent is too good for them but it was a close game so nothing to ashamed of. Magnolia had a closer chance of winning the game, but SMB manage to escape that and take the win. Ginebra on the other hand are controlling the game, its too late for ROS to have a run but still a close one. Missed to bet for todays game, will try to catch up next game.

Ginebra did finish the ROS in the 4th quarter, however, I'm not sure if Ginebra did cover the spread because that 3 point shot taken by ROS could probably destroy the spread if it was Ginebra -8.5. When Brownlee took over, ROS has no answer anymore and they seem to lose the defense they showed in the 3rd quarter.

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Quote from: Japinat on February 05, 2023, 05:59:17 AM

And the 4th quarter belongs to the Magnolia, it's just unfortunate that they ran out of timeout so they cannot make the right play for the last shot. It was a thrilling game, CJ Perez missed 2 information FT's that could have give them a 4 point lead, good thing for them that Paul Lee miss the last shot which is a 3 point shot, it could have been a big disappointment for the team.

Thrilling game indeed and SMB Beermen were just lucky to escape the rally mounted by Magnolia in the fourth quarter.

So, we have another close game here between the Ginebra Kings and the ROS Elasto Painters. 80-81 is the score after 3 quarters of play and i'm lucky to have pushed the bet button for Ginebra ML @2.55 when the Elastopainters were up by 7 points.

Hoping that Ginebra will finished off ROS in the fourth quarter Grin

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It was an intense games for today, and didn't expect this high quality game early this conference.
Both Magnolia and ROS lose on their respective games and they are so eager to have their first win unfortunately their opponent is too good for them but it was a close game so nothing to ashamed of. Magnolia had a closer chance of winning the game, but SMB manage to escape that and take the win. Ginebra on the other hand are controlling the game, its too late for ROS to have a run but still a close one. Missed to bet for todays game, will try to catch up next game.

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Quote from: Japinat on February 05, 2023, 05:59:17 AM

And the 4th quarter belongs to the Magnolia, it's just unfortunate that they ran out of timeout so they cannot make the right play for the last shot. It was a thrilling game, CJ Perez missed 2 information FT's that could have give them a 4 point lead, good thing for them that Paul Lee miss the last shot which is a 3 point shot, it could have been a big disappointment for the team.

Thrilling game indeed and SMB Beermen were just lucky to escape the rally mounted by Magnolia in the fourth quarter.

So, we have another close game here between the Ginebra Kings and the ROS Elasto Painters. 80-81 is the score after 3 quarters of play and i'm lucky to have pushed the bet button for Ginebra ML @2.55 when the Elastopainters were up by 7 points.

Hoping that Ginebra will finished off ROS in the fourth quarter Grin

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Quote from: Japinat on February 05, 2023, 04:29:01 AM

The first half is over and Magnolia keeps the lead.

47-51 is the halftime score, and those who trust the SMB to win here will get good odds, 1.60 ML and -3.5 only for the spread.
So what do you think guys? is it worth taking or is it just a trap waiting to collect our money?

Top scorer of the game is Paul Lee with 14 points.

SMB had a big 3rd quarter run, and they are in the lead by 9 points entering the 4th quarter. Looks like Magnolia's offense is not working anymore, they only score 19 points in the 3rd quarter while SMB had 32 points. But it's still too early to conclude, we still have the whole 4th quarter, so let's see how this game goes.

And the 4th quarter belongs to the Magnolia, it's just unfortunate that they ran out of timeout so they cannot make the right play for the last shot. It was a thrilling game, CJ Perez missed 2 information FT's that could have give them a 4 point lead, good thing for them that Paul Lee miss the last shot which is a 3 point shot, it could have been a big disappointment for the team.

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Quote from: Japinat on February 05, 2023, 04:29:01 AM

The first half is over and Magnolia keeps the lead.

47-51 is the halftime score, and those who trust the SMB to win here will get good odds, 1.60 ML and -3.5 only for the spread.
So what do you think guys? is it worth taking or is it just a trap waiting to collect our money?

Top scorer of the game is Paul Lee with 14 points.

SMB had a big 3rd quarter run, and they are in the lead by 9 points entering the 4th quarter. Looks like Magnolia's offense is not working anymore, they only score 19 points in the 3rd quarter while SMB had 32 points. But it's still too early to conclude, we still have the whole 4th quarter, so let's see how this game goes.

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The first half is over and Magnolia keeps the lead.

47-51 is the halftime score, and those who trust the SMB to win here will get good odds, 1.60 ML and -3.5 only for the spread.
So what do you think guys? is it worth taking or is it just a trap waiting to collect our money?

Top scorer of the game is Paul Lee with 14 points.

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