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Quote from: Yamifoud on January 27, 2023, 06:00:48 AM

Great opportunity for TNT bettors.

They are down 13 points at the half, but you know this team is capable of making a huge comeback.
The ML now is 3.00 and the spread is +5.5, I guess this is worth taking IMO, I should take this and the moneyline.

Betting on over 94.5 for TNT and and over 194.5 total score. (INC OT)

Good decision, suddenly it is now a close game. That over for totals and TNT will easily hit. The ML and the spread, of course there's still a good chance as TNT is now the favorites per live betting. This is the type of opportunity we can find if we are into live betting, but you need to focus and give your time to find this one. yeah, good luck mate.

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Great opportunity for TNT bettors.

They are down 13 points at the half, but you know this team is capable of making a huge comeback.
The ML now is 3.00 and the spread is +5.5, I guess this is worth taking IMO, I should take this and the moneyline.

Betting on over 94.5 for TNT and and over 194.5 total score. (INC OT)

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Quote from: Natalim on January 27, 2023, 04:36:38 AM

That was a huge number but unfortunately, they still lose the game, it was a close one though.
Next game will be TNT vs ROS, I think this one is also fun to watch.

Not fun to watch if you are betting for the TNT on the pre-live betting because the Katropa is down by 13 points at the end of the first half. Qualls was doing the damage for the Elasto Painters with his 18 points in the first half while his counter-part has only 8 points thus far and seems Hudson is playing lousy basketball hehe.

Odds in the second half, ROS 1.34, TNT 3.30 but i'm taking the ROS -5.5 @1.89 as TNT is not playing well and hope they will carry it on the second half.

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Quote from: LogitechMouse on January 26, 2023, 10:10:37 AM

Quote from: Natalim on January 26, 2023, 07:08:03 AM

Quote from: LogitechMouse on January 25, 2023, 09:37:52 PM

SMB gets Bollick, NorthPort will get either Ross or Lassiter or probably both plus maybe draft picks. They gave Arwind to NorthPort and Cabagnot in TerraFirma so it's pretty obvious that this might happen again soon if Bollick will become a free agent.

So they will have a reunion with Arwind Santos. These players are not yet done, they can make the Northport team better, so let's make that trade happen. Bollick is probably preserve and they will not let him play because they don't want to risk their precious player for trade.

Well, that's what they are doing. They will end up in a farm team and will retire there as well. This is the cycle that SMB is doing.
Independent teams get good players and then they will put it into another independent team and then from there, they will get it and will trade either old or bench players.

Look at Munzon now. NorthPort got him in exchange to some bench players and draft picks I guess. In the next season which is the Philippine Cup, SMB or even Ginebra might get him in exchange for some bench players. The cycle goes on and on and on and there's nothing that the management can do to stop it which is a bit ridiculous if you will ask me.

That's why they are being criticize, but despite that, people are still watching the game especially if Ginebra will be in the Finals game. A casual fan would not understand what's happening inside, they just want to watch the game and cheer for their favorite players. But if this kind of culture will continue, and a new league will emerge to be popular, maybe PBA will likely be affected and they'll be force to rebrand.

Quote from: LogitechMouse on January 26, 2023, 10:10:37 AM

Nobody is talking about the debut game of the new import of Converge which is Jamaal Franklin.

He almost got a triple double with 42-11-8. Well, compared to Converge's first import which is Rusbatch, this plays far better than him, and with this win they might keep Franklin and will be their import. For now, Rusbatch is now on the reserve list of Converge. TerraFirma's import, Jordan Williams scored 46 points and it's good to see 4 other players scored in double digits in Dyip as well, but it wasn't enough to get the victory.

That was a huge number but unfortunately, they still lose the game, it was a close one though.
Next game will be TNT vs ROS, I think this one is also fun to watch.

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Quote from: LogitechMouse on January 26, 2023, 09:50:17 PM

If I'm Bollick, I might try my luck overseas and play in the B-league. I mean B-league already gave sign to him that they will get him if he will play there. More money, more experience, more challenging.

Agree with you, Bollick would make a lot of money compared to the amount he would receive even if he will get a max contract. The love of basketball and money should go together because even if you are too loyal in your team in the PBA, you will still be traded when you are less effective.

That's not new already, we've seen plenty of players who are already traded and eventually lose their career.

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Quote from: goinmerry on January 26, 2023, 06:59:31 PM

Alright, it was reported that NorthPort already offered a max contract extension on Robert Bollick. Northport already made a first move but Bolick's side is still silent and has no response on that deal. If NorthPorth was a legit farm team on SMB, why is a contract extension still offered to Bollick?

Just a drama? Just for show? Just for entertainment? I doubt.

NorthPort in fairness likes to keep Bolick and won't just follow what others think of them as a farm team.

Money or title?
Well, he can get both when he goes to SMB so maybe just get the money and then a few years from now, SMB will get him and will have a higher chance to get a title.

Why a contract extension? I believe that the SMB can still get something out of Ross, Lassiter and Romeo and maybe Enciso as well, so they just let NorthPort offer Bollick a max contract extension but in the end, they will just get him in exchange for some players (if Bollick will accept the offer). I believe this is all drama and sh*t. If you are a PBA fan for years and you've been watching these trades, you can already see that SMB's farming team are NorthPort and TerraFirma.

If I'm Bollick, I might try my luck overseas and play in the B-league. I mean B-league already gave sign to him that they will get him if he will play there. More money, more experience, more challenging.

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Alright, it was reported that NorthPort already offered a max contract extension on Robert Bollick. Northport already made a first move but Bolick's side is still silent and has no response on that deal. If NorthPorth was a legit farm team on SMB, why is a contract extension still offered to Bollick?

Just a drama? Just for show? Just for entertainment? I doubt.

NorthPort in fairness likes to keep Bolick and won't just follow what others think of them as a farm team.

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Quote from: Shamm on January 26, 2023, 11:06:25 AM

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Quote from: LogitechMouse on January 25, 2023, 09:37:52 PM

if Bollick will become a free agent.

I've seen the news that he's about to become a free agent or is he already signed again by North Port? But nevertheless, yeah it seems that NP is already a farm team.
And whoever gets the trade again will be SMB or Ginebra that will be taking Bollick soon. But just like the other good players from the PBA. I just wish that he gets a contract outside PBA as he'll get more salary and become more known outside the league if ever a foreign team signs him up.

If bollick will go to a tough team and he has a good time then for sure he can show us who is he. As we all know that bollick is one of a good player all he need is a good team with a good teammate cause when bollick play In northport all I can say is that he can not carry his team into finals even though they have import and arwind Santos but not sure if they can advance to the finals as we all know that thier team is one of the farm team in PBA nowadays.

He's genuinely one of the best players in the PBA right now but because the teams are the ones who decide on who they're going to allow who's their mainstay. There's a possibility that even for a long time of their stay and loyalty, it will just be reciprocated by trade by their respective team management. Despite that the team might be at its best, I doubt it now and maybe the others too are doubting it that they'll be able to reach the finals.

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Quote from: Shamm on January 26, 2023, 11:06:25 AM

Quote from: blockman on January 26, 2023, 10:04:03 AM

Quote from: LogitechMouse on January 25, 2023, 09:37:52 PM

if Bollick will become a free agent.

I've seen the news that he's about to become a free agent or is he already signed again by North Port? But nevertheless, yeah it seems that NP is already a farm team.
And whoever gets the trade again will be SMB or Ginebra that will be taking Bollick soon. But just like the other good players from the PBA. I just wish that he gets a contract outside PBA as he'll get more salary and become more known outside the league if ever a foreign team signs him up.

If bollick will go to a tough team and he has a good time then for sure he can show us who is he. As we all know that bollick is one of a good player all he need is a good team with a good teammate cause when bollick play In northport all I can say is that he can not carry his team into finals even though they have import and arwind Santos but not sure if they can advance to the finals as we all know that thier team is one of the farm team in PBA nowadays.

No doubt if he will be traded to another SMC or MVP team his chance to showcase more of his talent and a chance of winning a title is possible, look at how Terrence Romeo became after being traded out from NP, win a final MVP and have that ring in his name, if Bollick will be given a chance like that, I'm sure he can do more.

Let's wait if how things will proceed. It's been a rumor for such a long time. Maybe after his contract expires, just like a ripe fruit, he will be harvested by either SMC or MVP franchise.

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Quote from: blockman on January 26, 2023, 10:04:03 AM

Quote from: LogitechMouse on January 25, 2023, 09:37:52 PM

if Bollick will become a free agent.

I've seen the news that he's about to become a free agent or is he already signed again by North Port? But nevertheless, yeah it seems that NP is already a farm team.
And whoever gets the trade again will be SMB or Ginebra that will be taking Bollick soon. But just like the other good players from the PBA. I just wish that he gets a contract outside PBA as he'll get more salary and become more known outside the league if ever a foreign team signs him up.

If bollick will go to a tough team and he has a good time then for sure he can show us who is he. As we all know that bollick is one of a good player all he need is a good team with a good teammate cause when bollick play In northport all I can say is that he can not carry his team into finals even though they have import and arwind Santos but not sure if they can advance to the finals as we all know that thier team is one of the farm team in PBA nowadays.

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Quote from: Natalim on January 26, 2023, 07:08:03 AM

Quote from: LogitechMouse on January 25, 2023, 09:37:52 PM

SMB gets Bollick, NorthPort will get either Ross or Lassiter or probably both plus maybe draft picks. They gave Arwind to NorthPort and Cabagnot in TerraFirma so it's pretty obvious that this might happen again soon if Bollick will become a free agent.

So they will have a reunion with Arwind Santos. These players are not yet done, they can make the Northport team better, so let's make that trade happen. Bollick is probably preserve and they will not let him play because they don't want to risk their precious player for trade.

Well, that's what they are doing. They will end up in a farm team and will retire there as well. This is the cycle that SMB is doing.
Independent teams get good players and then they will put it into another independent team and then from there, they will get it and will trade either old or bench players.

Look at Munzon now. NorthPort got him in exchange to some bench players and draft picks I guess. In the next season which is the Philippine Cup, SMB or even Ginebra might get him in exchange for some bench players. The cycle goes on and on and on and there's nothing that the management can do to stop it which is a bit ridiculous if you will ask me.

Nobody is talking about the debut game of the new import of Converge which is Jamaal Franklin.

He almost got a triple double with 42-11-8. Well, compared to Converge's first import which is Rusbatch, this plays far better than him, and with this win they might keep Franklin and will be their import. For now, Rusbatch is now on the reserve list of Converge. TerraFirma's import, Jordan Williams scored 46 points and it's good to see 4 other players scored in double digits in Dyip as well, but it wasn't enough to get the victory.

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Quote from: LogitechMouse on January 25, 2023, 09:37:52 PM

if Bollick will become a free agent.

I've seen the news that he's about to become a free agent or is he already signed again by North Port? But nevertheless, yeah it seems that NP is already a farm team.
And whoever gets the trade again will be SMB or Ginebra that will be taking Bollick soon. But just like the other good players from the PBA. I just wish that he gets a contract outside PBA as he'll get more salary and become more known outside the league if ever a foreign team signs him up.

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Quote from: Kelvinid on January 26, 2023, 08:40:02 AM

Northport had a better game this time, they still lose the game but at least the game was close. It's just unfortunate that Sumang was injured when he was the one who have some good game to make it a close game. Still, Meralco's import is unstoppable tonight, but I'm glad I still won the handicap though.

Congrats NP handicap backers.

That was close but Northport is not really a good team in closing games.

Their lack of experience was exposed in the 4th quarter, yes, they trim the lead to only 2 points but they cannot take the lead. Meralco was in control of the game, thanks to their super talented import, double-double production at a highest level. 32 points and 22 rebounds, that's something huge.

Sumang on the opposing team scored 23 points from an very efficient shooting of 8-12, he lead the local but the import is the top scorer with 29 points.
Maybe next time they'll win, and they badly need Bollick to help them.

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Northport had a better game this time, they still lose the game but at least the game was close. It's just unfortunate that Sumang was injured when he was the one who have some good game to make it a close game. Still, Meralco's import is unstoppable tonight, but I'm glad I still won the handicap though.

Congrats NP handicap backers.

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Quote from: LogitechMouse on January 25, 2023, 09:37:52 PM

SMB gets Bollick, NorthPort will get either Ross or Lassiter or probably both plus maybe draft picks. They gave Arwind to NorthPort and Cabagnot in TerraFirma so it's pretty obvious that this might happen again soon if Bollick will become a free agent.

So they will have a reunion with Arwind Santos. These players are not yet done, they can make the Northport team better, so let's make that trade happen. Bollick is probably preserve and they will not let him play because they don't want to risk their precious player for trade.

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Quote from: harizen on January 25, 2023, 06:59:30 PM

Quote from: LogitechMouse on January 24, 2023, 12:53:36 AM

As for NorthPort, Bollick didn't play.....

Aside from injury, there's an ongoing concern between Northport and Bolick.

The future of Robert Bolick playing in the NorthPort is still in question. His contract on the team is about to end in a few days and yet, no progress or development have seen so far. No official announcement related to that and all we know is rumor and speculation.

The latest on that is, Bolick's camp is prioritizing a possible new contract extension with the Nortporth although they have PLAN B if the negotiations fail.

With that statement, it's just creating speculation that the rumor during the last conference, Bolick might end up in SMC teams.

Where is Bollick right now? Ohhh he's on NorthPort right. NorthPort = farming team for SMC. That's a fact.

I'm leaning more on him being with the SMC teams rather than him on the B-league because there are rumors as well that he might end up in the B-league after his contract with NorthPort. We know already that NorthPort is the farming team of SMC aside from TerraFirma. Well, if there is an ongoing concern between the management and him then I guess we might see him ending up in SMB when he becomes a free agent.

I'm a SMB fan and I always saying, but I always hate them doing some unbalanced trades with other independent teams. This will be the scenario if Bollick will be traded to SMB: SMB gets Bollick, NorthPort will get either Ross or Lassiter or probably both plus maybe draft picks. They gave Arwind to NorthPort and Cabagnot in TerraFirma so it's pretty obvious that this might happen again soon if Bollick will become a free agent.

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Quote from: LogitechMouse on January 24, 2023, 12:53:36 AM

As for NorthPort, Bollick didn't play.....

Aside from injury, there's an ongoing concern between Northport and Bolick.

The future of Robert Bolick playing in the NorthPort is still in question. His contract on the team is about to end in a few days and yet, no progress or development have seen so far. No official announcement related to that and all we know is rumor and speculation.

The latest on that is, Bolick's camp is prioritizing a possible new contract extension with the Nortporth although they have PLAN B if the negotiations fail.

With that statement, it's just creating speculation that the rumor during the last conference, Bolick might end up in SMC teams.

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Quote from: Fredomago on January 25, 2023, 12:49:34 PM

the chance of TNT is good this season, they can again be one of the contender here at the governors cup, they just need to continue to play as whole and not just to lean with their reinforcement.

At every conference, TNT is always one of the contenders.

Although we can't judge how a certain team will perform the whole conference, referring to only game shouldn't be a basis. The team is also expected last conference to be one of the title contenders but look at what happened to them due to lots of factors such as inconsistent import, key player's injuries, best diva, etc.

Let's see if TNT will come back again on its usual track at this conference. They have a good start but consistency will be the question.

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Quote from: Shamm on January 25, 2023, 11:11:34 AM

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Quote from: Maslate on January 25, 2023, 07:36:41 AM

Phoenix suddenly stops playing good defense in the 4th quarter, they allow TNT to have open shots and that changes the complexion of the game because when TNT is leading comfortably, they usually win the game. Castro's minutes are well-managed, and also great because Oftana was very consistent outside, he made all 4 attempts in the 3 point area.

Too bad for Phoenix as they have a good run in the first half up to the third quarter, TNT won but you can see that Phoenix did their job very well.
That's a high scoring game same with Nlex vs Blackwater, looks like both teams are so hot going into this conference. TNT as usual, they are more composed and its good to see that early this conference, if they can be more consistent TNT have a good chance here as they have a good import as well.

Yes you are right that mate Phoneix ha a good run in the early until in the third quarter of the match but what happen to the fourth is TNT make a good play and a good run and that's the reason why they will win. But so far the Phoenix game tonight are good maybe they will need to have a good adjustment in their next game so that they can win in their next matchup. And the imports of TNT for me he is a good one and also the locals .

The ball rotations is quite an advantage for the tropang texters, the players are really moving well and with an import who can adjust with how the locals are playing, the chance of TNT is good this season, they can again be one of the contender here at the governors cup, they just need to continue to play as whole and not just to lean with their reinforcement.

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Quote from: Scripture on January 25, 2023, 07:59:34 AM

Quote from: Maslate on January 25, 2023, 07:36:41 AM

Phoenix suddenly stops playing good defense in the 4th quarter, they allow TNT to have open shots and that changes the complexion of the game because when TNT is leading comfortably, they usually win the game. Castro's minutes are well-managed, and also great because Oftana was very consistent outside, he made all 4 attempts in the 3 point area.

Too bad for Phoenix as they have a good run in the first half up to the third quarter, TNT won but you can see that Phoenix did their job very well.
That's a high scoring game same with Nlex vs Blackwater, looks like both teams are so hot going into this conference. TNT as usual, they are more composed and its good to see that early this conference, if they can be more consistent TNT have a good chance here as they have a good import as well.

Yes you are right that mate Phoneix ha a good run in the early until in the third quarter of the match but what happen to the fourth is TNT make a good play and a good run and that's the reason why they will win. But so far the Phoenix game tonight are good maybe they will need to have a good adjustment in their next game so that they can win in their next matchup. And the imports of TNT for me he is a good one and also the locals .

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