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Quote from: bisdak40 on January 11, 2023, 07:37:59 AM

If you watch the game you can't say that it is rigged or cooked. Both teams were doing their very best to win and its just the breaks of the game goes to the Bay Area Dragons. Let's give credit to both teams for entertaining thousands in attendance while millions watching, rumors will always be there to discredit the PBA when Ginebra is in the Finals but i don't believe that one.

So, we will be having a game 7 that is so exciting as far as i'm concern because i already give up my bet thinking that the Dragons are already out when Nicholson was injured but kudos to Powell for that magnificent plays in his comeback game.

The game was exceptional, both teams are not giving up its just that Ginebra came short and lose only by 3 points.
What a come back game from Powell, very timely to help Bay Area force the series for a do or die match. Let's move on for the game 7 now and forget that rumors because its not helping, and there's no proof on that claims. I'll start looking for the odds now because honestly this is one the best conference for PBA so far, a guest team fighting to prove themselves as well, such an entertaining tournament. Hopefully I can also watch the game live, even on a gen ad seat. Cheesy

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Quote from: Johnyz on January 11, 2023, 07:18:13 AM

Quote from: Botnake on January 11, 2023, 05:56:23 AM

I have a feeling that Bay Area will win tonight because if I don't believe that, I will definitely take the 5.1 odds right now as I know Ginebra is a team that knows how to come back from a huge deficit. Also, I believe that some fans are not expecting Ginebra to win because they want a game 7 which will be in the Phlippine Arena.

The script goes on, and Bay Area take the game 6 which means we are going to the Philippine Arena for the new record. Don’t want to discredit the effort of both teams but it looks like rumors are true.

Anyway, it can still be a home court advantage for Ginebra so I expect them to get the championship. Bay Area did a great job for the whole season, probably we might see them again next conference. Ginebra for game 7 this time.

If you watch the game you can't say that it is rigged or cooked. Both teams were doing their very best to win and its just the breaks of the game goes to the Bay Area Dragons. Let's give credit to both teams for entertaining thousands in attendance while millions watching, rumors will always be there to discredit the PBA when Ginebra is in the Finals but i don't believe that one.

So, we will be having a game 7 that is so exciting as far as i'm concern because i already give up my bet thinking that the Dragons are already out when Nicholson was injured but kudos to Powell for that magnificent plays in his comeback game.

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Bay Area won game 6. As expected series extends to game 7. Powell was a big help being the top scorer for Bay Area. I'm glad they reactivated him just in time. Kudos to Brownlee for an amazing performance scoring 32pts at the end of 3rd quarter. That's half of their score at that time. Really one of the best import that PBA had. I feel the excitement again in watching PBA after years of not watching.

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Quote from: Johnyz on January 11, 2023, 07:18:13 AM

Quote from: Botnake on January 11, 2023, 05:56:23 AM

I have a feeling that Bay Area will win tonight because if I don't believe that, I will definitely take the 5.1 odds right now as I know Ginebra is a team that knows how to come back from a huge deficit. Also, I believe that some fans are not expecting Ginebra to win because they want a game 7 which will be in the Phlippine Arena.

The script goes on, and Bay Area take the game 6 which means we are going to the Philippine Arena for the new record. Don’t want to discredit the effort of both teams but it looks like rumors are true.

Anyway, it can still be a home court advantage for Ginebra so I expect them to get the championship. Bay Area did a great job for the whole season, probably we might see them again next conference. Ginebra for game 7 this time.

As we wish, there will be a game 7 and it will be held at the Philppine Arena, the game will start at 5:45 pm, so book your ticket guys if you are near in the location. I'm wondering what will be the betting odds in game 7, I think there's no heavy favorite here.

I lose my bet by the way as I had Bay Area -3.5, that half-point cost me thousands.

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Quote from: Botnake on January 11, 2023, 05:56:23 AM

I have a feeling that Bay Area will win tonight because if I don't believe that, I will definitely take the 5.1 odds right now as I know Ginebra is a team that knows how to come back from a huge deficit. Also, I believe that some fans are not expecting Ginebra to win because they want a game 7 which will be in the Phlippine Arena.

The script goes on, and Bay Area take the game 6 which means we are going to the Philippine Arena for the new record. Don’t want to discredit the effort of both teams but it looks like rumors are true.

Anyway, it can still be a home court advantage for Ginebra so I expect them to get the championship. Bay Area did a great job for the whole season, probably we might see them again next conference. Ginebra for game 7 this time.

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Quote from: bisdak40 on January 11, 2023, 05:47:43 AM

Quote from: Botnake on January 11, 2023, 05:34:24 AM

BAD leading early, with 11 points lead now in the 2nd quarter, and Powell is really doing well despite playing not a hundred percent. Ginebra needs to play more defense, and also the locals needs to contribute more, they cannot rely on Brownlee alone as he will certainly get tired in the end.

Agree, the locals of the Kings need to step-up and help Brownlee on the offensive end as he can't do it alone while the Dragons are so scary right now as all of them were contributing offensively while Powell is so pumped up playing with the crowd. I thought that Blankley and Yang will not play on this game because of injuries on their last games but here they are playing so well at the moment.

Score at the half is 50-42, 8 point lead by the guest team and high chance that we will see game 7.

I have a feeling that Bay Area will win tonight because if I don't believe that, I will definitely take the 5.1 odds right now as I know Ginebra is a team that knows how to come back from a huge deficit. Also, I believe that some fans are not expecting Ginebra to win because they want a game 7 which will be in the Phlippine Arena.

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Quote from: Botnake on January 11, 2023, 05:34:24 AM

BAD leading early, with 11 points lead now in the 2nd quarter, and Powell is really doing well despite playing not a hundred percent. Ginebra needs to play more defense, and also the locals needs to contribute more, they cannot rely on Brownlee alone as he will certainly get tired in the end.

Agree, the locals of the Kings need to step-up and help Brownlee on the offensive end as he can't do it alone while the Dragons are so scary right now as all of them were contributing offensively while Powell is so pumped up playing with the crowd. I thought that Blankley and Yang will not play on this game because of injuries on their last games but here they are playing so well at the moment.

Score at the half is 50-42, 8 point lead by the guest team and high chance that we will see game 7.

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BAD leading early, with 11 points lead now in the 2nd quarter, and Powell is really doing well despite playing not a hundred percent. Ginebra needs to play more defense, and also the locals needs to contribute more, they cannot rely on Brownlee alone as he will certainly get tired in the end.

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Quote from: harizen on January 10, 2023, 06:48:07 PM

If ever Powell will be sidelined again, there's no choice for the Dragons but to play without an import if the game will be extended to the final series game.

As part of the agreement with the league and as I mentioned before, there's no chance for Nicholson to come back if Powell will be back on the roster.

2 possible games left for them and I think that shouldn't be a big deal as they really need all the reinforcement they can get from their import.

Quote from: bisdak40 on January 10, 2023, 04:42:39 PM

Can the Kings slay the Dragons tonight? Tough question but i think we will have a game 7 if we follow the trend.

One of the big reasons why I avoid and skip the per-game betting here in our place is because every game is really unpredictable.

For me if Powell will came back to the dragon it is very hard for ginebra to win the game it because we all know that Powell is very aggressive and accurate in shooting and also with the help of lam and their 7.5 center for sure ginebra will feel the different. But still I'll go for ginebra no matter what happen still I'll bet on ginebra San Miguel.

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Even though I'm rooting for Ginebra to win, the Dragons won't surely allow making things easy for Ginebra. Can't wait to watch the game.

Yes mate you are right that bay area dragon will do their best also to win the match cause it's their honor to be a champion in the PBA league .

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Quote from: Questat on January 11, 2023, 01:39:51 AM

I think we have the easiest bet today. I'm thinking that Ginebra will lose because game 7 will not happen if they will win. This is written in the script already, and if you guys believe that like me, I think that -3.5 Bay Area is a huge gift now.

Your thoughts on this...

I agree, probably the PBA are already planning to where this game 7 will be held. I'm pretty sure those who are active in sports betting understands how PBA work, Bay Area has been complaining with the calls, I think game 6 they will be given a favor. Good luck mate, I think you did the right call.

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I think we have the easiest bet today. I'm thinking that Ginebra will lose because game 7 will not happen if they will win. This is written in the script already, and if you guys believe that like me, I think that -3.5 Bay Area is a huge gift now.

Your thoughts on this...

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Quote from: chaser15 on January 10, 2023, 05:07:23 PM

A tough decision by the Bay Area Dragons who decided to just allow Myles Powell to play in Game 6 despite not in 100% healthy status. Even clear to play and join ing the Dragon's practice every time, he is still not on his usual playing level. Dragons face the risks here as Game 6 is their decisive game and losing one more game is not even a situation they should allow to happen.

I'm just curious about the way bookies provided the odds just because Powell was activated as the gap of odds is really distant and Bay Area Dragons is a clear favorite to win on Game 6 by bookies. Ginebra 2.2 seriously over Dragons 1.6?

Didn't they know that since Powell will now be able to play, it will just give more excitement to the Brgy. Ginebra to play at their best especially since they know that fans are awaiting the face-off of Justin Brownlee and Myles Powell. The return of Powell will just fuel the inner strength of Justin Brownlee.

If only Powell is at 100%, I will consider him as a threat. But that's not the case here and I hope that by forcing himself to play, no further injury will happen.

- Well, since the game in PBA is too unpredictable, it always happen the unexpected things. Others may think that Ginebra fans will seize the opportunity to win the championship, but it won't be easy for this team.

Because it is also certain that it will not be easy because the Bay area is not just a simple wall that Ginebra can easily overcome. If we remember the Bay area beat them even though it didn't have an import playing on their team. So let's see and wait for the next chapters.

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Quote from: chaser15 on January 10, 2023, 05:07:23 PM

If only Powell is at 100%, I will consider him as a threat. But that's not the case here and I hope that by forcing himself to play, no further injury will happen.

You know how PBA players are when it comes to physicality right?
I like Powell to play the whole game or at least without any restriction if possible. Well, let's just hope that he will not injure his foot during the game.

Quote from: harizen on January 10, 2023, 06:48:07 PM

If ever Powell will be sidelined again, there's no choice for the Dragons but to play without an import if the game will be extended to the final series game.

As part of the agreement with the league and as I mentioned before, there's no chance for Nicholson to come back if Powell will be back on the roster.

2 possible games left for them and I think that shouldn't be a big deal as they really need all the reinforcement they can get from their import.

They have no choice, so they just went to the best choice possible and that is to activate Powell in exchange for Nicholson.
They saw that Nicholson can't play in Game 6 and obviously, their chances of winning will be higher if they will have an import thus, they reactivated Powell and gambled on it even though he has a foot injury.

Overall, a better decision for the Dragons than just to play in a must-win game without any import at all.

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If ever Powell will be sidelined again, there's no choice for the Dragons but to play without an import if the game will be extended to the final series game.

As part of the agreement with the league and as I mentioned before, there's no chance for Nicholson to come back if Powell will be back on the roster.

2 possible games left for them and I think that shouldn't be a big deal as they really need all the reinforcement they can get from their import.

Quote from: bisdak40 on January 10, 2023, 04:42:39 PM

Can the Kings slay the Dragons tonight? Tough question but i think we will have a game 7 if we follow the trend.

One of the big reasons why I avoid and skip the per-game betting here in our place is because every game is really unpredictable.

Even though I'm rooting for Ginebra to win, the Dragons won't surely allow making things easy for Ginebra. Can't wait to watch the game.

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A tough decision by the Bay Area Dragons who decided to just allow Myles Powell to play in Game 6 despite not in 100% healthy status. Even clear to play and join ing the Dragon's practice every time, he is still not on his usual playing level. Dragons face the risks here as Game 6 is their decisive game and losing one more game is not even a situation they should allow to happen.

I'm just curious about the way bookies provided the odds just because Powell was activated as the gap of odds is really distant and Bay Area Dragons is a clear favorite to win on Game 6 by bookies. Ginebra 2.2 seriously over Dragons 1.6?

Didn't they know that since Powell will now be able to play, it will just give more excitement to the Brgy. Ginebra to play at their best especially since they know that fans are awaiting the face-off of Justin Brownlee and Myles Powell. The return of Powell will just fuel the inner strength of Justin Brownlee.

If only Powell is at 100%, I will consider him as a threat. But that's not the case here and I hope that by forcing himself to play, no further injury will happen.

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Quote from: bisdak40 on January 10, 2023, 04:42:39 PM

Quote from: blockman on January 10, 2023, 08:35:37 AM

Yeah, it's actually good that the Bay Area Dragons are a strong team and this is a wake-up call to all of the teams. Honestly, I want to see more guests team now.
They're more entertaining to watch and they're adding flavor to the PBA. There are other strong teams from different leagues like EASL and other leagues in South East Asia. If the PBA management allows more of them at the same time, that's going to be like a royal rumble in the league and that will gather more fans getting back their interest in it.

I doubt that it is a wake-up call for the PBA management to have a strong guest team because team owners like the SMC group and MVP group won't mind that one because as i saw it they will do whatever they want to strengthen their teams and the commissioner got no power stopping it hehe but i do agree that it is good to have a strong guest team every now and then to check with reality how are we faring with other countries in this game we love.

Dragons 1.64, Kings 2.22

Can the Kings slay the Dragons tonight? Tough question but i think we will have a game 7 if we follow the trend.

Many think that this is the last game and I hope that it will so that the Gin Kings already prevail as this season's champion. As for the management of PBA and the SMC and MVP teams.
If the PSC starts to step in and tries to argue against the PBA management then for sure that there's going to be some clarity on what they're doing not unless PSC will also be having that under the table from the SMC and MVP teams.

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Quote from: blockman on January 10, 2023, 08:35:37 AM

Yeah, it's actually good that the Bay Area Dragons are a strong team and this is a wake-up call to all of the teams. Honestly, I want to see more guests team now.
They're more entertaining to watch and they're adding flavor to the PBA. There are other strong teams from different leagues like EASL and other leagues in South East Asia. If the PBA management allows more of them at the same time, that's going to be like a royal rumble in the league and that will gather more fans getting back their interest in it.

I doubt that it is a wake-up call for the PBA management to have a strong guest team because team owners like the SMC group and MVP group won't mind that one because as i saw it they will do whatever they want to strengthen their teams and the commissioner got no power stopping it hehe but i do agree that it is good to have a strong guest team every now and then to check with reality how are we faring with other countries in this game we love.

Dragons 1.64, Kings 2.22

Can the Kings slay the Dragons tonight? Tough question but i think we will have a game 7 if we follow the trend.

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Quote from: jakelyson on January 09, 2023, 06:37:43 PM

Quote from: blockman on January 09, 2023, 05:54:14 PM

Yeah, that fact will not change until the trade and draft situations will change. SMC and MVP teams are always taking the advantage of it while the other teams that don't have any plans of winning are becoming their farm teams. It's not just the fans are aware of it and even the other teams and coaching staff are aware of it but they can't speak ill against the management because for sure Al and Marcial will give them a notice and will call them to their office. LOL

It is what it is in PBA. I think it will not change as long as there is no rule prohibiting it and that farm teams allow themselves to be farm teams.

I am just thankful that this guest team is strong, and they were able to give us good competition against the top team of SMC. PBA has not been this exciting for a long time now. Hopefully, we still see strong guest teams next conference or season. I hope they still want to come even after the allegation of bias referees and fixing games.

Yeah, it's actually good that the Bay Area Dragons are a strong team and this is a wake-up call to all of the teams. Honestly, I want to see more guests team now.
They're more entertaining to watch and they're adding flavor to the PBA. There are other strong teams from different leagues like EASL and other leagues in South East Asia. If the PBA management allows more of them at the same time, that's going to be like a royal rumble in the league and that will gather more fans getting back their interest in it.

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Quote from: blockman on January 09, 2023, 05:54:14 PM

Yeah, that fact will not change until the trade and draft situations will change. SMC and MVP teams are always taking the advantage of it while the other teams that don't have any plans of winning are becoming their farm teams. It's not just the fans are aware of it and even the other teams and coaching staff are aware of it but they can't speak ill against the management because for sure Al and Marcial will give them a notice and will call them to their office. LOL

SMC and MVP only have the power to spend big money on getting good players. We can't blame the independent teams if they are left behind. As for players, why they will stick to these independent teams if there are big offers from big companies? It just makes sense to think that SMC and MVP will always have the advantage.

But there is an independent team that is serious about building a legacy and they are the only ones that I see being active in furnishing their roster.

I'm referring to Converge and hope they will repeat they're good rally next conference and be able to find a good import in the Governors' Cup.

The players have also no option if they've been picked to be traded to other teams. That's why some good players have chosen to play in abroad leagues like KBL and B League and that's because there's no assurance of career in the PBA unless the team becomes loyal to you.

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Quote from: bisdak40 on January 10, 2023, 06:07:30 AM

Quote from: Shinpako09 on January 10, 2023, 01:32:34 AM

If this is just between local teams, especially smc and mvp, it won't be as exciting as this. I'm rooting for Bay Area to push this series to game 7 with Powell being reactivated. They should have done it as early as Game 4 to have a chance in better standing. Always take the advantage if there is one. Now, the pressure is even greater since they are the ones in a do-or-die situation.

I think that their priority import is Nicholson and they are waiting for him to get better at this stage but it didn't come that way, i mean his injury has worsen or not yet healed as of this time while Powell is more usable than him. Let's not be deceived with this activation of Powell because he is not 100 percent healthy, people might think that it is good to bet now for the Dragons as Powell will be playing but this might be just a mind game for the coach of the Dragons.

Note that once they replace Nicholson, the Dragons can't revert back to him as an import, would be Powell till game 7 if needed.

But nevertheless, it's welcome news for the backers of the Dragons that somehow the Dragons will have an import playing in game 6.

This match of game 6 is quite exciting, to be honest. Questions Will Ginebra close out the game in Game 6? o Will the Bay area dragons force a win in Game 6 to have a game 7 do-or-die?

These are the questions that no one knows, this is the game that makes me nervous hehe...But I expect that the defense that the bay area dragons will do in game 6 will be strong, which will also make it difficult for Ginebra even if it is said that Brownlee is there. This is just my opinion, so the standing score is probably 3-3.

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Quote from: bisdak40 on January 10, 2023, 06:07:30 AM

Quote from: Shinpako09 on January 10, 2023, 01:32:34 AM

If this is just between local teams, especially smc and mvp, it won't be as exciting as this. I'm rooting for Bay Area to push this series to game 7 with Powell being reactivated. They should have done it as early as Game 4 to have a chance in better standing. Always take the advantage if there is one. Now, the pressure is even greater since they are the ones in a do-or-die situation.

I think that their priority import is Nicholson and they are waiting for him to get better at this stage but it didn't come that way, i mean his injury has worsen or not yet healed as of this time while Powell is more usable than him. Let's not be deceived with this activation of Powell because he is not 100 percent healthy, people might think that it is good to bet now for the Dragons as Powell will be playing but this might be just a mind game for the coach of the Dragons.

Note that once they replace Nicholson, the Dragons can't revert back to him as an import, would be Powell till game 7 if needed.

But nevertheless, it's welcome news for the backers of the Dragons that somehow the Dragons will have an import playing in game 6.

I think Nicholson is not yet 100%, and they already accepted that they can't change their import anymore. Well, they have to choose, if they have an import and they will win game 6, that means they have a chance to win game 7, so it's the right decision to activate Powell and let him help the team to win and take the game to 7 series.

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