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December 23, 2022, 08:34:28 PM
Since no betting has been made yet on the Finals, let me propose this one....

I'll be betting for Bay Area Dragons for only 3K php but i'll be picking my opponents.

bisdak40 1k php vs Maslate 1k php
bisdak40 1k php vs harizen 1k php
bisdak40 1k vs Huh??

@harizen and Maslate please confirm if you are biting the proposal hehe, not final until you confirm this.

Third opponent is still open, to those who will bet for Ginebra and want to bet for them, please comment...
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December 23, 2022, 06:57:49 PM
Perfect timing for game 1, xmass day and people have this money they can afford to spend with their friends and family.

to the fact that it is Ginebra and we know how huge the Brgy especially that it is a Sunday game day for them!
That's what I'm thinking, Sunday + Christmas day + bonus of people have been taken then for sure the basketball and Ginebra fans will book tickets. AFAIK, it's already sold out just 5 minutes after its publishing a few days ago, maybe just the scalper things.
It's a tour for some friends and family going to the venue and then watch some live action and as a start of the finals.

A perfect bonding for friends and family, right? It's ginebra and the magnet that it will create for the fans, that's something that we all anticipated, a good market for PBA and an expected high revenue series, we might expect a good game 7 do-or-die game right? I will not conclude yet, but for the matchup is capable of both teams to push and force the series to the maximum limit.

Entertainment wise, that's for the value of money and for the fans enjoyment, as long as there is no problem with any ref/official calls
then it will be a good series to watch out.
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December 23, 2022, 05:56:08 PM
Perfect timing for game 1, xmass day and people have this money they can afford to spend with their friends and family.

to the fact that it is Ginebra and we know how huge the Brgy especially that it is a Sunday game day for them!
That's what I'm thinking, Sunday + Christmas day + bonus of people have been taken then for sure the basketball and Ginebra fans will book tickets. AFAIK, it's already sold out just 5 minutes after its publishing a few days ago, maybe just the scalper things.
It's a tour for some friends and family going to the venue and then watch some live action and as a start of the finals.
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December 23, 2022, 04:50:12 PM
Yes, you are right that mate let's get forward, observe and place our bet on our favorite team.  This upcoming December 25 which is Christmas day the final two teams will duel and this is a very interesting one it because we all know how tough the Bay Area Dragon is and the main question here is that can The king of take down the foreign team or Bay Area will get that trophy. But in ginebra they must take this game serious.


That is a treat for basketball fans on Christmas day. Two great teams facing each other in Game one of the Commissioner's cup finals. This will be exciting. Ginebra has proven that they can beat Bay Area Dragons when they met in the elimination round. And the Bay Area Dragons proved they can adjust easily against any opponents, and they do not give up easily. They are patient and very disciplined in their game. This is a good Christmas game.

And we know how powerful playing in homecourt, and the cheers of the crowd is. Anyway, I think that talent-wise, Ginebra and Dragons are not that far apart. If the crowd can boost the confidence of Ginebra in the game, it will be an even match.
For sure this is a good matchup and like what you said mate ginebra beat dragons before in elimination round so in this final they have a big percentage of winning and this is a good choice for the SMB franchise that Ginebra will face dragons in the final. Cause this team have already the chemistry all they need is to have a good plan how to counter the offense of Bay area which little bit hard for them as we all know that all bigman of bay area can play outside shoot so they need to handle this in order to defeat bay area .

Ginebra also have those bigs who can match with Dragons tall shooters, they can compete and they have that capabilities to beat the visiting team, it's the system from both coaches and the executions coming from the players who are inside the court, we will see how mental and physically fit the home crowd favorite as they will be tested to protect the pride of our country.

Perfect timing for game 1, xmass day and people have this money they can afford to spend with their friends and family.

to the fact that it is Ginebra and we know how huge the Brgy especially that it is a Sunday game day for them!
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December 23, 2022, 04:13:01 PM
Honestly, I find the Bay Area Dragons vulnerable to losing because they rely so much on their 3 point shooting. Nicholson won't be able to drop huge numbers if he will be limited in the 3 point line because Ginebra have two bigs (Aguilar and C. Stand) to limit him by frustrating him. Look what happened to the Magnolia import, he was suppose to be a great import but he was ineffective in the semi Finals.
Both teams are vulnerable to losing, they both have their own weaknesses and if they really want to get this championship they should address that issue and do better for their coming games. Bay Area are indeed good on their shooting, now if Ginebra is able to control that and limit them with their threes for sure, Bay Area will adjust accordingly. This match up are very exciting, can’t wait to see them playing this Christmas.
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December 23, 2022, 04:07:14 PM
I really not referring to Ginebra's win on eliminations as a basis that they have an edge over the Dragons in this series. Since the Bay Area Dragons already played against a full complete lineup of Ginebra, expect that some adjustments will be made by them.

Since everyone is Ginebra including me, anyone likes to have a local betting here where we will predict what game Ginebra/Dragons will close the series?

Game 4 Ginebra/Dragons
Game 5 Ginebra/Dragons
Game 6 Ginebra/Dragons
Game 7 Ginebra/Dragons

The winner/s takes all. The prizes though might not be satisfying so a low bet will do. For example, If 4 players choose Game 6 and only a few bets on other games, no choice but to divide the take-all money even if it's smaller than their bets.

Any adjustments on this rule or this plan of mine suck as shit. lol. But since Game 1 will be on Sunday, not much time left to organize this.

This makes sense since no one here wants to back up the Dragons. Let's see if there are others willing to bet. If this push through I would like to bet on Game 7. I believe the two teams are equally matched and this series will take the distance.

Will the Dragons rely on threes? I believe they will because they have good three-point shooters but on the other hand, if threes aren't going in for them, they will lose. As for Nicholson, he will always find a way to score. He scored only 28 points when these 2 teams matched up, but I'm pretty sure the Dragons want some revenge since Ginebra is the one who gave them their first loss.

The Bay Area Dragons have great cutters and good centers who can score in the paint. I am sure their entire offense is not fully relying on 3-point shots. If they get shot down from beyond the arc, then they have to find ways to score in the paint or perimeter.
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December 23, 2022, 12:20:29 PM
I really not referring to Ginebra's win on eliminations as a basis that they have an edge over the Dragons in this series. Since the Bay Area Dragons already played against a full complete lineup of Ginebra, expect that some adjustments will be made by them.

Since everyone is Ginebra including me, anyone likes to have a local betting here where we will predict what game Ginebra/Dragons will close the series?

Game 4 Ginebra/Dragons
Game 5 Ginebra/Dragons
Game 6 Ginebra/Dragons
Game 7 Ginebra/Dragons

The winner/s takes all. The prizes though might not be satisfying so a low bet will do. For example, If 4 players choose Game 6 and only a few bets on other games, no choice but to divide the take-all money even if it's smaller than their bets.

Any adjustments on this rule or this plan of mine suck as shit. lol. But since Game 1 will be on Sunday, not much time left to organize this.
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December 23, 2022, 10:56:55 AM
Looks like there's no Bay Area Dragon bettors here.... am I right? hehe.

Also find this weird because on papers, the Dragons is a talented team with Nicholson leading the charge for them, even though the Kings have beaten the Dragons in the elimination, it is not the gage (at least for me) that this series is in favor of Ginebra. We all knew that a series is very different from a single game in the elimination as in the series they can make some adjustments on the succeeding games.

Anyways, i will update this post if ever i have already decided to bet for the Dragons.

Honestly, I find the Bay Area Dragons vulnerable to losing because they rely so much on their 3 point shooting. Nicholson won't be able to drop huge numbers if he will be limited in the 3 point line because Ginebra have two bigs (Aguilar and C. Stand) to limit him by frustrating him. Look what happened to the Magnolia import, he was suppose to be a great import but he was ineffective in the semi Finals.
Remember TNT? There was a time where they are shooting a lot of threes. While that playstyle helped them, they didn't help them this time because most of their threes aren't going in especially in the PBA Philippine Cup.

TNT and Dragons are different. Relying on three-point shooting is a double-edged sword. It might help you win the team but if shots aren't going it, it will be their reason for a team to lose. If you will look at all of the team's three-point shooting percentage, the Dragons have the highest percentage with 37% and they are shooting 36 threes per game. Ginebra on the other hand is 3rd with 35% with 30 attempts per game.

Will the Dragons rely on threes? I believe they will because they have good three-point shooters but on the other hand, if threes aren't going in for them, they will lose. As for Nicholson, he will always find a way to score. He scored only 28 points when these 2 teams matched up, but I'm pretty sure the Dragons want some revenge since Ginebra is the one who gave them their first loss.
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December 23, 2022, 10:06:53 AM
Honestly, I find the Bay Area Dragons vulnerable to losing because they rely so much on their 3 point shooting.

I think saying Bay Area Dragons is relying on the 3-point shooting is not appropriate. They don't rely on it but rather they are really monsters in that area. If you watched how the Dragons perform beyond the arc during their last game against the SMB, it's like the 3-point area is their comfort zone. I can't call that as that team is relying on it but they are really good at it. Aside from that, they are also good at the paint and shaded areas.

I'm with Ginebra winning the championship but I can't consider that analysis as a reason why the Dragons are vulnerable to losing.

Nicholson won't be able to drop huge numbers if he will be limited in the 3 point line because Ginebra have two bigs (Aguilar and C. Stand) to limit him by frustrating him.

Nicholson's main forte is in the paint area and doing a low post on the shaded area, why he will force himself to do some 3s? He is attempting 3s only when he feels it but most of his scoring came from inside. Let's also consider that aside from Nicholson, those sharp 3 point shooters of the Dragons can shoot on the rainbow area even with a solid defense. That's how god their shooting stroke is.

Still, despite Dragons being a heavy favorite, going all-in for Ginebra here in our own local betting.
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December 23, 2022, 09:52:05 AM
Yes, you are right that mate let's get forward, observe and place our bet on our favorite team.  This upcoming December 25 which is Christmas day the final two teams will duel and this is a very interesting one it because we all know how tough the Bay Area Dragon is and the main question here is that can The king of take down the foreign team or Bay Area will get that trophy. But in ginebra they must take this game serious.


That is a treat for basketball fans on Christmas day. Two great teams facing each other in Game one of the Commissioner's cup finals. This will be exciting. Ginebra has proven that they can beat Bay Area Dragons when they met in the elimination round. And the Bay Area Dragons proved they can adjust easily against any opponents, and they do not give up easily. They are patient and very disciplined in their game. This is a good Christmas game.

And we know how powerful playing in homecourt, and the cheers of the crowd is. Anyway, I think that talent-wise, Ginebra and Dragons are not that far apart. If the crowd can boost the confidence of Ginebra in the game, it will be an even match.
For sure this is a good matchup and like what you said mate ginebra beat dragons before in elimination round so in this final they have a big percentage of winning and this is a good choice for the SMB franchise that Ginebra will face dragons in the final. Cause this team have already the chemistry all they need is to have a good plan how to counter the offense of Bay area which little bit hard for them as we all know that all bigman of bay area can play outside shoot so they need to handle this in order to defeat bay area .
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December 23, 2022, 09:37:24 AM
Looks like there's no Bay Area Dragon bettors here.... am I right? hehe.

Also find this weird because on papers, the Dragons is a talented team with Nicholson leading the charge for them, even though the Kings have beaten the Dragons in the elimination, it is not the gage (at least for me) that this series is in favor of Ginebra. We all knew that a series is very different from a single game in the elimination as in the series they can make some adjustments on the succeeding games.

Anyways, i will update this post if ever i have already decided to bet for the Dragons.

Honestly, I find the Bay Area Dragons vulnerable to losing because they rely so much on their 3 point shooting. Nicholson won't be able to drop huge numbers if he will be limited in the 3 point line because Ginebra have two bigs (Aguilar and C. Stand) to limit him by frustrating him. Look what happened to the Magnolia import, he was suppose to be a great import but he was ineffective in the semi Finals.

You have exactly point on that matter actually, That's what I'm wondering about, going into the semi-finals, it seems like it lost its quality as a magnolia import, which after all, most of the team expected it to be a magnolia import. Wasn't their strategy against their opponent ruined at that time?

I expected them to win at that time but I was wrong about this matter. but I believed that Bay dragons win and I am pretty sure
their opponents will be difficult to defeat them, I'll bet on this Bay Dragons.
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December 23, 2022, 09:03:06 AM
Looks like there's no Bay Area Dragon bettors here.... am I right? hehe.

Also find this weird because on papers, the Dragons is a talented team with Nicholson leading the charge for them, even though the Kings have beaten the Dragons in the elimination, it is not the gage (at least for me) that this series is in favor of Ginebra. We all knew that a series is very different from a single game in the elimination as in the series they can make some adjustments on the succeeding games.

Anyways, i will update this post if ever i have already decided to bet for the Dragons.

Honestly, I find the Bay Area Dragons vulnerable to losing because they rely so much on their 3 point shooting. Nicholson won't be able to drop huge numbers if he will be limited in the 3 point line because Ginebra have two bigs (Aguilar and C. Stand) to limit him by frustrating him. Look what happened to the Magnolia import, he was suppose to be a great import but he was ineffective in the semi Finals.
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December 23, 2022, 08:33:33 AM

And we know how powerful playing in homecourt, and the cheers of the crowd is. Anyway, I think that talent-wise, Ginebra and Dragons are not that far apart. If the crowd can boost the confidence of Ginebra in the game, it will be an even match.

Wait, what are you saying? you think that Bay Area is the favorite to win and Ginebra needs the crowd to win? man, sorry but I disagree with you, I think Ginebra has the upper hard, remember the last time they met? Ginebra won by a huge margine, same import, so I don't see anything new from them against Ginebra.

Based on the betting odds on their previous game, Ginebra was the underdog, so I think that would not change considering the fact that Bay Area are the number 1 team in the PBA. Maybe this series, Bay Area is the slight favorite, so for Ginebra backers, this is our chance to bet on Ginebra as the underdog.

Things might change because this is already the Finals. Maybe if we have the series betting odds, that would be better. Based on my research, here's the betting odds for game 1.


https://sports.msw.ph/en/sports/227-basketball/75477-philippines

This is from a local sportspook in the Philippines, they have an early odds, so we now have an idea if we still choose to bet on crypto sportsbook.

Thanks for providing us the betting odds in game 1, at least we already know what to expect from this game, if we have a series betting, these odds tell that Bay Area is the favorite to win, so hopefully, this will convince the bettors to take the Bay Area Dragon to win the series.

Question: does your local bookies requires a KYC?
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December 23, 2022, 08:21:50 AM

And we know how powerful playing in homecourt, and the cheers of the crowd is. Anyway, I think that talent-wise, Ginebra and Dragons are not that far apart. If the crowd can boost the confidence of Ginebra in the game, it will be an even match.

Wait, what are you saying? you think that Bay Area is the favorite to win and Ginebra needs the crowd to win? man, sorry but I disagree with you, I think Ginebra has the upper hard, remember the last time they met? Ginebra won by a huge margine, same import, so I don't see anything new from them against Ginebra.

Based on the betting odds on their previous game, Ginebra was the underdog, so I think that would not change considering the fact that Bay Area are the number 1 team in the PBA. Maybe this series, Bay Area is the slight favorite, so for Ginebra backers, this is our chance to bet on Ginebra as the underdog.

Things might change because this is already the Finals. Maybe if we have the series betting odds, that would be better. Based on my research, here's the betting odds for game 1.


https://sports.msw.ph/en/sports/227-basketball/75477-philippines

This is from a local sportspook in the Philippines, they have an early odds, so we now have an idea if we still choose to bet on crypto sportsbook.
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December 23, 2022, 07:41:56 AM

And we know how powerful playing in homecourt, and the cheers of the crowd is. Anyway, I think that talent-wise, Ginebra and Dragons are not that far apart. If the crowd can boost the confidence of Ginebra in the game, it will be an even match.

Wait, what are you saying? you think that Bay Area is the favorite to win and Ginebra needs the crowd to win? man, sorry but I disagree with you, I think Ginebra has the upper hard, remember the last time they met? Ginebra won by a huge margine, same import, so I don't see anything new from them against Ginebra.

Based on the betting odds on their previous game, Ginebra was the underdog, so I think that would not change considering the fact that Bay Area are the number 1 team in the PBA. Maybe this series, Bay Area is the slight favorite, so for Ginebra backers, this is our chance to bet on Ginebra as the underdog.
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December 23, 2022, 07:13:02 AM

And we know how powerful playing in homecourt, and the cheers of the crowd is. Anyway, I think that talent-wise, Ginebra and Dragons are not that far apart. If the crowd can boost the confidence of Ginebra in the game, it will be an even match.

Wait, what are you saying? you think that Bay Area is the favorite to win and Ginebra needs the crowd to win? man, sorry but I disagree with you, I think Ginebra has the upper hard, remember the last time they met? Ginebra won by a huge margine, same import, so I don't see anything new from them against Ginebra.
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December 22, 2022, 07:34:07 PM
Yes, you are right that mate let's get forward, observe and place our bet on our favorite team.  This upcoming December 25 which is Christmas day the final two teams will duel and this is a very interesting one it because we all know how tough the Bay Area Dragon is and the main question here is that can The king of take down the foreign team or Bay Area will get that trophy. But in ginebra they must take this game serious.


That is a treat for basketball fans on Christmas day. Two great teams facing each other in Game one of the Commissioner's cup finals. This will be exciting. Ginebra has proven that they can beat Bay Area Dragons when they met in the elimination round. And the Bay Area Dragons proved they can adjust easily against any opponents, and they do not give up easily. They are patient and very disciplined in their game. This is a good Christmas game.

That's our pride and we are witnessing this game inside our home crowd, it's tough to bet against the home team. Talent wise Dragon might have that edge but pride and the wild fans, that added the value.. Good Luck na lang mga Kabayan!

And we know how powerful playing in homecourt, and the cheers of the crowd is. Anyway, I think that talent-wise, Ginebra and Dragons are not that far apart. If the crowd can boost the confidence of Ginebra in the game, it will be an even match.
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December 22, 2022, 07:01:30 PM
I'm not a pro baller but if I'm in that same situation with Enciso I will attract the defenders before dropping the ball to Perez, it will give him much clearer sight and the defense will be late to disturb CJ, though it's already done and we need to move forward, just saying Kabayan nothing to argue and everyone here is already moving forward to the finals... Roll Eyes Tongue

These players are under pressure. If the last possession of SMB was being able to discuss thru calling a time out they might be able to prepare.

Coach Leo Austria didn't use his timeout and let his players just do what they can during the dying seconds.

Here's the explanation of Coach Leo why he didn't use his timeout: https://www.youtube.com/watch?app=desktop&v=cJRH0kYTevE

And we see what happened and it's done nothing can be change and I understand your point with pressure they are also human and
with that kind of situation it will comes out in the time that you don't expect, he make that remarkable winning shot on game 3 and if ever
CJ makes that shot then it will be a good credit as well for him an assist that very crucial in winning the game, but that didn't happen and we are now moving to the finals with Gin kings and Bay Area.

Looks like there's no Bay Area Dragon bettors here.... am I right? hehe.

Also find this weird because on papers, the Dragons is a talented team with Nicholson leading the charge for them, even though the Kings have beaten the Dragons in the elimination, it is not the gage (at least for me) that this series is in favor of Ginebra. We all knew that a series is very different from a single game in the elimination as in the series they can make some adjustments on the succeeding games.

Anyways, i will update this post if ever i have already decided to bet for the Dragons.

Because the pressure is not the same in NBA betting where we relying not just on being a FAN but also looking at the capability of a team to win.

Here in Dragons vs Gin Kings, we are disregarding the dominant performance of Dragons because as Pinoy, we like to support our own.

I also think that the Dragons have a better edge compared to the Kings but I can't bet on them because I want to support our Pinoy team. Even on per-game betting, I can't see myself putting a bet on Dragons.

That's our pride and we are witnessing this game inside our home crowd, it's tough to bet against the home team. Talent wise Dragon might have that edge but pride and the wild fans, that added the value.. Good Luck na lang mga Kabayan!
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December 22, 2022, 06:32:27 PM

As I previously stated, I will only bet on the Bay Area Dragons if they faced other teams instead, except for Ginebra.

It seems we will have a hard time on local betting as everyone is Ginebra. Cheesy

If anyone wants, just to have local betting here, I will place a bet on the Dragons but give me a +1 handicap on the series haha. It's because I'm really at Ginebra to win the series and already place a bet for Ginebra here in our place.

Moving to the finals matchup and betting, money is getting bigger, do we need someone to escrow or just the usual P2P where we trust each other to pay the winner if we lose?

Same as usual will do. But for not a regular poster here, you can escrow their bet. Smiley
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