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Quote from: Sanitough on December 16, 2022, 07:10:09 AM

Quote from: Yamifoud on December 16, 2022, 06:26:26 AM

Can the SMB be able to come back in the 4th quarter?

This is the opposite of what happened in game 1, it's now the Bay Area Dragons who are dictating the game, so let's see if SMB will be able to turn things around in the last quarter of the game. It's a must-win for them as they can't go down 2-0 as that would look like they'll be eliminated early or even be swept.

unfortunately, they weren't able to come back. I wasn't expecting the result of this game, I thought it was a close game and SMB will try to even the series, but look at what happened? once again Bay Area Dragons showed their dominance on PBA teams, and that's SMB, one of the best teams in the PBA.

I think it's not necessary for Powell to come back as Nicholson is very well fitted to the team.

114-95, it's a big win by Bay Dragons, and they have Nicholson who scored 34 while SMB's import only made 14 points from 6/15 shooting.

Actually I'll loss that game because I bet on SMB but very unlucky and Bay area Dragon win.
We are the same mate as you said I thought that SMB will even the series but the opposite is what we saw last hour, maybe their strategy is not enough to beat Bay Area Dragon cause they are very tough team. Even though they change their import but still they are unstoppable right now and how much more if Powell will came back and play in Bay area Dragons. In next game maybe SMB team will have a good play and make the match as close as they can .

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Quote from: Yamifoud on December 16, 2022, 06:26:26 AM

Can the SMB be able to come back in the 4th quarter?

This is the opposite of what happened in game 1, it's now the Bay Area Dragons who are dictating the game, so let's see if SMB will be able to turn things around in the last quarter of the game. It's a must-win for them as they can't go down 2-0 as that would look like they'll be eliminated early or even be swept.

unfortunately, they weren't able to come back. I wasn't expecting the result of this game, I thought it was a close game and SMB will try to even the series, but look at what happened? once again Bay Area Dragons showed their dominance on PBA teams, and that's SMB, one of the best teams in the PBA.

I think it's not necessary for Powell to come back as Nicholson is very well fitted to the team.

114-95, it's a big win by Bay Dragons, and they have Nicholson who scored 34 while SMB's import only made 14 points from 6/15 shooting.

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Can the SMB be able to come back in the 4th quarter?

This is the opposite of what happened in game 1, it's now the Bay Area Dragons who are dictating the game, so let's see if SMB will be able to turn things around in the last quarter of the game. It's a must-win for them as they can't go down 2-0 as that would look like they'll be eliminated early or even be swept.

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Quote from: Questat on December 16, 2022, 04:42:25 AM

Quote from: chaser15 on December 15, 2022, 05:44:23 PM

Quote from: Johnyz on December 14, 2022, 02:58:55 PM

Ginebra won and that’s a clear domination from them though its just a first game but I’m confident that Ginebra will continue its momentum so they can reach another finals.

If you were able to watch that game, there's no clear domination from Ginebra the whole game. In fact, they even feel relaxed and Coach Tim Cone admitted it when Magnolia Import got ejected. That would be their lesson for Game 2 that still treat their opponent as fair even playing without an import.

As for the Magnolia import, he should also learn its lesson to remain calm. His attitude, that affects his usual gameplay which in fact, it's not his usual. If he will keep on doing such unnecessary actions on the court, he will instead become a burden and problem instead of being an important piece on the team.

He was calm in game 2, and that resulted to a good win. Paul Lee hit the game winner, he is back again and his shooting is very accurate. I love what Magnolia are doing now, they are not easily giving up despite knowing how heavily favored the Gin Kings.

Tied at 1-1, more exciting games ahead.

I will be betting on Ginebra in game 3, if they'll lose that game I'm thinking of doubling my bet. I believe they have a shot of getting ahead in the series again, I don't want to be greedy so I'll just put in a little amount so I'll be able to afford my bet once it's necessary to double it.

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Quote from: chaser15 on December 15, 2022, 05:44:23 PM

Quote from: Johnyz on December 14, 2022, 02:58:55 PM

Ginebra won and that’s a clear domination from them though its just a first game but I’m confident that Ginebra will continue its momentum so they can reach another finals.

If you were able to watch that game, there's no clear domination from Ginebra the whole game. In fact, they even feel relaxed and Coach Tim Cone admitted it when Magnolia Import got ejected. That would be their lesson for Game 2 that still treat their opponent as fair even playing without an import.

As for the Magnolia import, he should also learn its lesson to remain calm. His attitude, that affects his usual gameplay which in fact, it's not his usual. If he will keep on doing such unnecessary actions on the court, he will instead become a burden and problem instead of being an important piece on the team.

He was calm in game 2, and that resulted to a good win. Paul Lee hit the game winner, he is back again and his shooting is very accurate. I love what Magnolia are doing now, they are not easily giving up despite knowing how heavily favored the Gin Kings.

Tied at 1-1, more exciting games ahead.

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Quote from: Johnyz on December 14, 2022, 02:58:55 PM

Ginebra won and that’s a clear domination from them though its just a first game but I’m confident that Ginebra will continue its momentum so they can reach another finals.

If you were able to watch that game, there's no clear domination from Ginebra the whole game. In fact, they even feel relaxed and Coach Tim Cone admitted it when Magnolia Import got ejected. That would be their lesson for Game 2 that still treat their opponent as fair even playing without an import.

As for the Magnolia import, he should also learn its lesson to remain calm. His attitude, that affects his usual gameplay which in fact, it's not his usual. If he will keep on doing such unnecessary actions on the court, he will instead become a burden and problem instead of being an important piece on the team.

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Quote from: jakelyson on December 15, 2022, 11:45:35 AM

Quote from: bisdak40 on December 13, 2022, 07:09:43 AM

@jakelyson, please confirm your participation kabayan so i can list your name and your bet for Magnolia.

I was not able to log in for a few days because of work. If it is okay with the participants, I would still want to push through with my bet on Magnolia. I will wave my bet on SMB vs Bay Area because I want to bet on Dragons, but they won the first game.

AFAIC, no problem on your participation on this fun bet kabayan. Consider your bet of 500 Php for Magnolia Hotshots counted. I think there's no problem with harizen and Maslate because Magnolia loses game 1, they even have the advantage hehe.

The odds for both games have changed since game 1 with Ginebra now the underdog in game2, odds between Magnolia and Ginebra was even in game one. See below for odds of game 2, i'll still take the odds ML for SMB Beermen and with handicap for Magnolia Hotshots.

Magnolia -1.5 @1.87 vs Ginebra
SMB Beermen @2.58 vs Dragons

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Quote from: Hypnosis00 on December 15, 2022, 12:04:09 PM

Quote from: jakelyson on December 15, 2022, 11:45:35 AM

Quote from: bisdak40 on December 13, 2022, 07:09:43 AM

@jakelyson, please confirm your participation kabayan so i can list your name and your bet for Magnolia.

I was not able to log in for a few days because of work. If it is okay with the participants, I would still want to push through with my bet on Magnolia. I will wave my bet on SMB vs Bay Area because I want to bet on Dragons, but they won the first game.

I think there's no problem with your bet on Magnolia because they are already behind the series. For sure participants would let you in. For SMB vs Bay Area, this series will be close, despite Bay Area won game 1, but it was the SMB who dominated most of the quarters.

I agree with the bet for Magnolia since they lost the first game. Those who are in favor of Ginebra will accept his bet to continue, though still depend on how the participants will take it and approved, just saying my personal take Kabayan. Moving forward to the game, SMB needs to bounce back after that exciting game 1. They needed to adjust more and, like what coach george said; he was late calling the last play, if he manage to bring Fajardo back the chance of winning might take place, but for me, it's a good call as a coach it just so happen that Cruz missed the crucial shot but if he nailed it, the outcome is different.

Let see if how both the losing teams will adjust to try tieing the series. Still have 2 more games, but this game 2 is very crucial for them.

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Quote from: jakelyson on December 15, 2022, 11:45:35 AM

Quote from: bisdak40 on December 13, 2022, 07:09:43 AM

@jakelyson, please confirm your participation kabayan so i can list your name and your bet for Magnolia.

I was not able to log in for a few days because of work. If it is okay with the participants, I would still want to push through with my bet on Magnolia. I will wave my bet on SMB vs Bay Area because I want to bet on Dragons, but they won the first game.

I think there's no problem with your bet on Magnolia because they are already behind the series. For sure participants would let you in. For SMB vs Bay Area, this series will be close, despite Bay Area won game 1, but it was the SMB who dominated most of the quarters.

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Quote from: bisdak40 on December 13, 2022, 07:09:43 AM

@jakelyson, please confirm your participation kabayan so i can list your name and your bet for Magnolia.

I was not able to log in for a few days because of work. If it is okay with the participants, I would still want to push through with my bet on Magnolia. I will wave my bet on SMB vs Bay Area because I want to bet on Dragons, but they won the first game.

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Quote from: Shamm on December 14, 2022, 09:23:10 AM

For SMB and BAY AREA DRAGON, their game 1 is good and thrilling as we all know that both sides perform well and don't hire best to win the match but Bay Area dragons claim the first victory, maybe on the next game SMB will do some adjustment and for me it's a good advantage if they surely shoot in the inner and outer so that they can get a lead but in the first game smb doing great a little bit mistake that's why they loss.
In the other side as we all know that ginebra and Magnolia are sister company so we can't see a good match for my opinion and I think Ginebra will will win in the semi.

SMB had a chance to close out the game with a win unfortunately, Bay Area was able to execute a good shot and SMB failed to defend it, it was a thrilling game as expected SMB will surely bounce back.
On the other hand, Ginebra won their first game and take the advantage since they are a sister company many expect this to reach for game 7 and I believe this is already a battle for the pride and both teams will not go easy for each other, Magnolia should do better here.

SMB had the chance to snatch a game against the Dragon, but the Dragons were patient and disciplined. Little by little, they chipped away the lead of SMB. Game 1 confirmed my fear that the Dragons will lack some fire power against SMB without Powell as their import. SMB have the chance to win game 1 since they have an advantage in outside shooting. It will be harder for them if Powell comes back.

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Quote from: Johnyz on December 14, 2022, 02:58:55 PM

Quote from: goaldigger on December 14, 2022, 02:20:46 PM

Quote from: Shamm on December 14, 2022, 09:23:10 AM

For SMB and BAY AREA DRAGON, their game 1 is good and thrilling as we all know that both sides perform well and don't hire best to win the match but Bay Area dragons claim the first victory, maybe on the next game SMB will do some adjustment and for me it's a good advantage if they surely shoot in the inner and outer so that they can get a lead but in the first game smb doing great a little bit mistake that's why they loss.
In the other side as we all know that ginebra and Magnolia are sister company so we can't see a good match for my opinion and I think Ginebra will will win in the semi.

SMB had a chance to close out the game with a win unfortunately, Bay Area was able to execute a good shot and SMB failed to defend it, it was a thrilling game as expected SMB will surely bounce back.
On the other hand, Ginebra won their first game and take the advantage since they are a sister company many expect this to reach for game 7 and I believe this is already a battle for the pride and both teams will not go easy for each other, Magnolia should do better here.

Ginebra won and that’s a clear domination from them though its just a first game but I’m confident that Ginebra will continue its momentum so they can reach another finals. The most exciting match here is between SMB and Bay Area, imagine winning the first game at a very close score and tough match, Bay Area should be more challenged here.

I don't see dominance from Ginebra, if you watch the game Mags lost their import in the middle of 3rd quarter and from that time if Ginebra can really dominate them it won't end as close as it is, Mags are competitive and they really know how to lean on each other it's so happen that the import have emotion problem that needed to workout. Already in semi-finals they need to play as pro as they can be.

Meanwhile, with SMB, it was a snatch a come from behind win and we really enjoy the game, especially if you are an SMB fan
"Bawi na lang sa 2nd game"

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Quote from: goaldigger on December 14, 2022, 02:20:46 PM

Quote from: Shamm on December 14, 2022, 09:23:10 AM

For SMB and BAY AREA DRAGON, their game 1 is good and thrilling as we all know that both sides perform well and don't hire best to win the match but Bay Area dragons claim the first victory, maybe on the next game SMB will do some adjustment and for me it's a good advantage if they surely shoot in the inner and outer so that they can get a lead but in the first game smb doing great a little bit mistake that's why they loss.
In the other side as we all know that ginebra and Magnolia are sister company so we can't see a good match for my opinion and I think Ginebra will will win in the semi.

SMB had a chance to close out the game with a win unfortunately, Bay Area was able to execute a good shot and SMB failed to defend it, it was a thrilling game as expected SMB will surely bounce back.
On the other hand, Ginebra won their first game and take the advantage since they are a sister company many expect this to reach for game 7 and I believe this is already a battle for the pride and both teams will not go easy for each other, Magnolia should do better here.

Ginebra won and that’s a clear domination from them though its just a first game but I’m confident that Ginebra will continue its momentum so they can reach another finals. The most exciting match here is between SMB and Bay Area, imagine winning the first game at a very close score and tough match, Bay Area should be more challenged here.

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Quote from: Shamm on December 14, 2022, 09:23:10 AM

For SMB and BAY AREA DRAGON, their game 1 is good and thrilling as we all know that both sides perform well and don't hire best to win the match but Bay Area dragons claim the first victory, maybe on the next game SMB will do some adjustment and for me it's a good advantage if they surely shoot in the inner and outer so that they can get a lead but in the first game smb doing great a little bit mistake that's why they loss.
In the other side as we all know that ginebra and Magnolia are sister company so we can't see a good match for my opinion and I think Ginebra will will win in the semi.

SMB had a chance to close out the game with a win unfortunately, Bay Area was able to execute a good shot and SMB failed to defend it, it was a thrilling game as expected SMB will surely bounce back.
On the other hand, Ginebra won their first game and take the advantage since they are a sister company many expect this to reach for game 7 and I believe this is already a battle for the pride and both teams will not go easy for each other, Magnolia should do better here.

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For SMB and BAY AREA DRAGON, their game 1 is good and thrilling as we all know that both sides perform well and don't hire best to win the match but Bay Area dragons claim the first victory, maybe on the next game SMB will do some adjustment and for me it's a good advantage if they surely shoot in the inner and outer so that they can get a lead but in the first game smb doing great a little bit mistake that's why they loss.
In the other side as we all know that ginebra and Magnolia are sister company so we can't see a good match for my opinion and I think Ginebra will will win in the semi.

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Quote from: Fredomago on December 14, 2022, 08:19:27 AM

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Quote from: Hypnosis00 on December 14, 2022, 04:08:27 AM

Quote from: Questat on December 14, 2022, 03:40:06 AM

Are you enjoying the game already? SMB has a double-digit lead but now in the 4th quarter, it's only a 4 points lead. This Bay Area Dragon team is not going anywhere, despite their bad start but they are still fighting, and playing hard to win. Good luck, this is a great game so far.

Romeo is playing very well for SMB, his return is very timely.

1-0, Bay Area won the game in a thrilling game. Their composure made gave them success in game 1. They didn't even call a time-out when they get the rebound with a few seconds left in the clock, I don't know if Cruz's decision to shoot a 3 point was the right one, I mean, he could have driven the ball, and try to get a foul since they are still ahead by a point.

Anyway, the game is over, let's see what will happen in game 2.

Yeah, SMB failed to execute the right play in the last minutes, they could have won game 1. I don't understand why they sit Romeo, I think he is a good playmaker and he will attract defenders, especially their import, so that would open up the shooters of SMB. Now, let's see the next game, it's a Manila Classico, Ginebra vs Magnolia, should be a good game.

Same question here, Romeo is known for that sequence not sure why coach sit him and not allow him to create the play, he can break the defense and drop the ball to anyone who's open or he can also take the shot and gamble for the win. Though it's only game 1 and they almost have it, meaning to say that visiting team is not that solid when facing another super-team with the stars is around.

They will make an adjustment in game 2, they are supposed to have that win but they wasted the opportunity.
Anyway, I don't complain because I have my series bet on Bay Area to win.

Quote from: Fredomago on December 14, 2022, 08:19:27 AM

2nd game, Ginebra take the win not sure about the incident from Mags import though it's obvious, but CStand is really good faking it and make the drama look real.. Hahaha.

The import of Magnolia has to control his emotion, he cannot win against Ginebra if they will not make a good adjustment. C. Stand will never back down, he will destroy the concentration of the import and let his teammates take charge.

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Quote from: Questat on December 14, 2022, 04:40:19 AM

Quote from: Hypnosis00 on December 14, 2022, 04:08:27 AM

Quote from: Questat on December 14, 2022, 03:40:06 AM

Are you enjoying the game already? SMB has a double-digit lead but now in the 4th quarter, it's only a 4 points lead. This Bay Area Dragon team is not going anywhere, despite their bad start but they are still fighting, and playing hard to win. Good luck, this is a great game so far.

Romeo is playing very well for SMB, his return is very timely.

1-0, Bay Area won the game in a thrilling game. Their composure made gave them success in game 1. They didn't even call a time-out when they get the rebound with a few seconds left in the clock, I don't know if Cruz's decision to shoot a 3 point was the right one, I mean, he could have driven the ball, and try to get a foul since they are still ahead by a point.

Anyway, the game is over, let's see what will happen in game 2.

Yeah, SMB failed to execute the right play in the last minutes, they could have won game 1. I don't understand why they sit Romeo, I think he is a good playmaker and he will attract defenders, especially their import, so that would open up the shooters of SMB. Now, let's see the next game, it's a Manila Classico, Ginebra vs Magnolia, should be a good game.

Same question here, Romeo is known for that sequence not sure why coach sit him and not allow him to create the play, he can break the defense and drop the ball to anyone who's open or he can also take the shot and gamble for the win. Though it's only game 1 and they almost have it, meaning to say that visiting team is not that solid when facing another super-team with the stars is around.

2nd game, Ginebra take the win not sure about the incident from Mags import though it's obvious, but CStand is really good faking it and make the drama look real.. Hahaha.

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Quote from: Ziskinberg on December 14, 2022, 05:56:49 AM

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Quote from: Questat on December 14, 2022, 04:40:19 AM

Yeah, SMB failed to execute the right play in the last minutes, they could have won game 1. I don't understand why they sit Romeo, I think he is a good playmaker and he will attract defenders, especially their import, so that would open up the shooters of SMB. Now, let's see the next game, it's a Manila Classico, Ginebra vs Magnolia, should be a good game.

SMB was leading the whole time but failed to protect the lead in the dying minutes. I think the execution and breaks of the game in the dying seconds just favored the Dragons but nevertheless, it was an exciting game and for sure SMB Beermen will bounce back from that lose. We can see in the first game that the Dragons struggled and they are very beatable so expect the odds to be more even in game 2.

End of the first of the second game, a very close game so far with a score of 45-44 in favor of the Kings.

Yes, both imports are playing well and their defense was very impressive. However, since this is in the 2nd half, I think Ginebra will be favored to win, but the 3rd quarter is a very important quarter, so let's see if my prediction is correct. I got the under 193.5 on this game, hopefully it will not go to OT.

Congrats on your win mate, the score is way below 193 points. Magnolia seldom plays a high-scoring ballgame since they are known to be a defensive team. Ginebra Kings won the game by just 3 points, 87-84 and CStand contributed a lot to that win with that lousy acting hehe. Yes, the import of Magnolia got ejected in the 3rd quarter via that 2nd technical foul by extending his foot on CStand.

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Just a quick tip for everyone here. Based on statistics and we know numbers don't lie, 68% of the teams who are winning Game 1 in a Best of 5 series go on and win the whole series. 2 out of the 3 teams go on and win if they win Game 1. I mean winning Game 1 is huge because that will give them the momentum of the whole series.

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Yeah, SMB failed to execute the right play in the last minutes, they could have won game 1. I don't understand why they sit Romeo, I think he is a good playmaker and he will attract defenders, especially their import, so that would open up the shooters of SMB. Now, let's see the next game, it's a Manila Classico, Ginebra vs Magnolia, should be a good game.

SMB was leading the whole time but failed to protect the lead in the dying minutes. I think the execution and breaks of the game in the dying seconds just favored the Dragons but nevertheless, it was an exciting game and for sure SMB Beermen will bounce back from that lose. We can see in the first game that the Dragons struggled and they are very beatable so expect the odds to be more even in game 2.

End of the first of the second game, a very close game so far with a score of 45-44 in favor of the Kings.

Lead by double digits but they can't convert it until the end of the game.
Romeo and Perez scored 20+ points. JMF on the other hand scored 11 points only and 8 rebounds. I mean it isn't the kind of performance that we're used to see coming from him. Their import as well scored only 9 points and 8 rebounds. For an import, that's low. Well, Game 2 will be on Friday so let's see how the SMB will respond.

Ginebra Vs. Magnolia. Ginebra won by just 3 points even though Rakocevic got ejected early in the 3rd quarter
Magnolia's import is out mostly during the second half, and I thought that it's over for them already, but I was wrong, and the Hotshots almost had a shot, but they can't just win it. Won by 3 points only and that's without an import for the half of the game. The Hotshots has a chance TBH. They will be the first game on Friday so let's watch.

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Quote from: bisdak40 on December 14, 2022, 05:46:01 AM

Quote from: Questat on December 14, 2022, 04:40:19 AM

Yeah, SMB failed to execute the right play in the last minutes, they could have won game 1. I don't understand why they sit Romeo, I think he is a good playmaker and he will attract defenders, especially their import, so that would open up the shooters of SMB. Now, let's see the next game, it's a Manila Classico, Ginebra vs Magnolia, should be a good game.

SMB was leading the whole time but failed to protect the lead in the dying minutes. I think the execution and breaks of the game in the dying seconds just favored the Dragons but nevertheless, it was an exciting game and for sure SMB Beermen will bounce back from that lose. We can see in the first game that the Dragons struggled and they are very beatable so expect the odds to be more even in game 2.

End of the first of the second game, a very close game so far with a score of 45-44 in favor of the Kings.

Yes, both imports are playing well and their defense was very impressive. However, since this is in the 2nd half, I think Ginebra will be favored to win, but the 3rd quarter is a very important quarter, so let's see if my prediction is correct. I got the under 193.5 on this game, hopefully it will not go to OT.

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