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Quote from: Shamm on December 09, 2022, 03:53:15 AM

Quote from: Sanitough on December 09, 2022, 03:26:51 AM

For those who are thinking that Bay Area Dragon will not be able to cover the high spread, I think you guys are wrong. 3rd quarter now and the score is 85-54, that's in favor of the Dragons, looks like it was really a mismatch game, no hope for the ROS to have a big comeback as they are not the Gin Kings, and they don't have the crowd to support them.

This game is a easy game for Bay Area dragons and we all know that this is a mismatch like what we saw in the match the lead of Bay Area dragons will come in 30 points in the 3rd quarter which is not good for ROS I think it also that ROS has No hope for this match as we can see Bay Area dragons control the game and now entering the fourth and final quarter for sure still bay area dragons will control and win in the end.

Bay Area leads all the way and took the win here, there’s no doubt about this.
Bay Area is too much for ROS though we’ve seen some good plays for ROS but its not enough to beat Bay Area. With a 30 points win, Bay Area did a great statement here that they are a contender for the finals, we might be able to see more good games from them because they are so eager to claim the title.

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Quote from: Shamm on December 09, 2022, 03:53:15 AM

Quote from: Sanitough on December 09, 2022, 03:26:51 AM

For those who are thinking that Bay Area Dragon will not be able to cover the high spread, I think you guys are wrong. 3rd quarter now and the score is 85-54, that's in favor of the Dragons, looks like it was really a mismatch game, no hope for the ROS to have a big comeback as they are not the Gin Kings, and they don't have the crowd to support them.

This game is a easy game for Bay Area dragons and we all know that this is a mismatch like what we saw in the match the lead of Bay Area dragons will come in 30 points in the 3rd quarter which is not good for ROS I think it also that ROS has No hope for this match as we can see Bay Area dragons control the game and now entering the fourth and final quarter for sure still bay area dragons will control and win in the end.

It's been antciapted by coach Yeng, from what I read he knows that there's really a big mismatch and hoping to have two imports to try beating this visiting team, it's no longer an argument and that huge handicap, those who pick the visiting team and take whatever handicap they've got before the game are all enjoying the win.

If I'm not mistaken the game ended up with 30points deficit, huge enough to cover the initial bookies offer for The bay area's handicap.

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Quote from: Sanitough on December 09, 2022, 03:26:51 AM

For those who are thinking that Bay Area Dragon will not be able to cover the high spread, I think you guys are wrong. 3rd quarter now and the score is 85-54, that's in favor of the Dragons, looks like it was really a mismatch game, no hope for the ROS to have a big comeback as they are not the Gin Kings, and they don't have the crowd to support them.

This game is a easy game for Bay Area dragons and we all know that this is a mismatch like what we saw in the match the lead of Bay Area dragons will come in 30 points in the 3rd quarter which is not good for ROS I think it also that ROS has No hope for this match as we can see Bay Area dragons control the game and now entering the fourth and final quarter for sure still bay area dragons will control and win in the end.

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For those who are thinking that Bay Area Dragon will not be able to cover the high spread, I think you guys are wrong. 3rd quarter now and the score is 85-54, that's in favor of the Dragons, looks like it was really a mismatch game, no hope for the ROS to have a big comeback as they are not the Gin Kings, and they don't have the crowd to support them.

By the way, we have a similar handicap on the next game.

Magnolia is -14.5 against Phoenix, are we going to see the same outcome in the first game?

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Quote from: Ziskinberg on December 07, 2022, 01:44:56 AM

Quote from: Questat on December 06, 2022, 11:16:51 PM

I'm thinking of making a parlay bet, with 2 leg parlay SMB and Ginebra, the odds is 1.600. I think that's still attractive IMO knowing how good SMB and Ginenbra. How you guys? What do you think about that parlay, is it risky or the odds are not good?

That's reasonable, you have already a big chance that Ginebra will win, the only game that worries me is the SMB vs Converge, it can go either way since Converge has a good import. Still, it's up to you as you are the one taking the risk, remember that whatever the odds are, there's always a risk.

Even if we assume that Converge's imports are good if their team lacks teamwork and SMB's team is only at an average level, I think there is still a good chance that SMB will beat Converge.

But even so, we still don't know the possibility of that can happen on the day of this event, it will be a good battle for sure on this day.

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Quote from: Hypnosis00 on December 08, 2022, 09:53:51 PM

Quote from: LogitechMouse on December 08, 2022, 09:41:36 PM

Dragons Vs. Elastopainters. Coach Yeng is a very talented coach and had many titles on his back already, but on this one, they will bow down to the Dragons. Phoenix Vs. Magnolia will be a better match-up because Phoenix also played well this conference though they went to a losing streak after having a 5-game winning streak and TBH, they might have a chance to beat the Hotshots in Game 1.

It's a must-win by the ROS, so might as well try to back them because the spread is too high. Coach Yeng will have his pride at stake here, he cannot just say that the Bay Area Dragons are so good and they cannot do anything to be competitive as that will only be a lame excuse.

I placed a small bet to RoS in the off chance that they pull a miracle here. The odds are @10.5 so it is very tempting. I only placed a small amount so I won't really affect me if I lose but will add big amount to my pocket if I win. As you said, it is a must win for Rain or Shine, so maybe they can pull it off. The Dragons are on the lead but it is too early in the game yet.

Quote from: LogitechMouse on December 09, 2022, 01:43:51 AM

While I'm browsing the Facebook, I saw a post coming from the commentator of the league saying that Myles Powell will not play because he has an injury (it's on the leg base on the picture) and he just posted it just a few minutes after I'm doing this post.

This will be a huge turn of events obviously as the Dragons doesn't have an import to start the playoffs with. This is what I'm curious about. How will the Dragons be without their import who is a scoring machine. I don't recommend this but if you still see that +15.5 odds against the Dragons, bet on it. Powell might not play based on the post that I just saw. With this update, I guess the ROS might take this Game 1 or at least the chances of them winning increased significantly.

I don't know the rules, but I'm thinking if Powell can be replaced by Nicholson.

They are quite a strong team. Mike Powell is like a booster but even without him, the Dragons are still very formidable. They will still give RoS a hard time.

I do not think Nicholson can replace Powell since their roster is locked from games 9 forward. It is either Powell or NIcholson and they chose Powell.

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Quote from: Botnake on December 09, 2022, 12:32:05 AM

Quote from: Hypnosis00 on December 08, 2022, 09:53:51 PM

Quote from: LogitechMouse on December 08, 2022, 09:41:36 PM

Dragons Vs. Elastopainters. Coach Yeng is a very talented coach and had many titles on his back already, but on this one, they will bow down to the Dragons. Phoenix Vs. Magnolia will be a better match-up because Phoenix also played well this conference though they went to a losing streak after having a 5-game winning streak and TBH, they might have a chance to beat the Hotshots in Game 1.

It's a must-win by the ROS, so might as well try to back them because the spread is too high. Coach Yeng will have his pride at stake here, he cannot just say that the Bay Area Dragons are so good and they cannot do anything to be competitive as that will only be a lame excuse.

I don't know if I'll find this handicap of ROS attractive, yes, it's +15.5, but against the Dragons? I think it's even low considering how they got dominated in their previous meeting. I'm saying it will be an easy win by the Dragons but we also cannot eliminate the possibility that it might result on a big upset.

We know coach Yeng, he has been a PBA coach for more than a decade, so he surely has something in his sleeve that we haven't seen before.

While I'm browsing the Facebook, I saw a post coming from the commentator of the league saying that Myles Powell will not play because he has an injury (it's on the leg base on the picture) and he just posted it just a few minutes after I'm doing this post.

This will be a huge turn of events obviously as the Dragons doesn't have an import to start the playoffs with. This is what I'm curious about. How will the Dragons be without their import who is a scoring machine. I don't recommend this but if you still see that +15.5 odds against the Dragons, bet on it. Powell might not play based on the post that I just saw. With this update, I guess the ROS might take this Game 1 or at least the chances of them winning increased significantly.

I don't know the rules, but I'm thinking if Powell can be replaced by Nicholson.

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Quote from: Hypnosis00 on December 08, 2022, 09:53:51 PM

Quote from: LogitechMouse on December 08, 2022, 09:41:36 PM

Dragons Vs. Elastopainters. Coach Yeng is a very talented coach and had many titles on his back already, but on this one, they will bow down to the Dragons. Phoenix Vs. Magnolia will be a better match-up because Phoenix also played well this conference though they went to a losing streak after having a 5-game winning streak and TBH, they might have a chance to beat the Hotshots in Game 1.

It's a must-win by the ROS, so might as well try to back them because the spread is too high. Coach Yeng will have his pride at stake here, he cannot just say that the Bay Area Dragons are so good and they cannot do anything to be competitive as that will only be a lame excuse.

I don't know if I'll find this handicap of ROS attractive, yes, it's +15.5, but against the Dragons? I think it's even low considering how they got dominated in their previous meeting. I'm saying it will be an easy win by the Dragons but we also cannot eliminate the possibility that it might result on a big upset.

We know coach Yeng, he has been a PBA coach for more than a decade, so he surely has something in his sleeve that we haven't seen before.

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Quote from: LogitechMouse on December 08, 2022, 09:41:36 PM

Dragons Vs. Elastopainters. Coach Yeng is a very talented coach and had many titles on his back already, but on this one, they will bow down to the Dragons. Phoenix Vs. Magnolia will be a better match-up because Phoenix also played well this conference though they went to a losing streak after having a 5-game winning streak and TBH, they might have a chance to beat the Hotshots in Game 1.

It's a must-win by the ROS, so might as well try to back them because the spread is too high. Coach Yeng will have his pride at stake here, he cannot just say that the Bay Area Dragons are so good and they cannot do anything to be competitive as that will only be a lame excuse.

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Quote from: bisdak40 on December 08, 2022, 04:37:57 PM

Quote from: Fredomago on December 08, 2022, 09:10:32 AM

Speaking of Fajardo, he's fit and healthy and seems that he really wanted to win. He is helping and showing why he's the goat of this league. Adding to what you mentioned about experienced, SMB is full of experienced players, anyone can explode and bring help.

The last game was CJ Perez who leads them but with all those stars inside the squad like what i mentioned,
everyone can contribute and bring the spark for the team.

Converge was just too unlucky this time as they are facing the SMB Beermen with Fajardo and Romeo healthy once again. Even the coaching brilliance of coach Ayo will not be enough to bring Converge to the semis facing this SMC giant team. On the part of SMB Beermen, it would be interesting to see if they slay the Dragons once they face them in the next round.

Speaking of the Dragons, they will be facing ROS tonight and i'll be backing them this time even if the spread is high.

Bay Area Dragons -15.5 @1.87 vs ROS Elastopainters

Kudos to the Converge for having a great season and in their last season where they entered the playoffs on their debut season, but I will say again that experience matters when it comes to playoffs and that's the one thing that they don't have right now, and they might get swept by the Beermen. Too unlucky for them indeed that they are facing a team that already has lots of experiences and at the same time, a star-studded team.

Dragons Vs. Elastopainters. Coach Yeng is a very talented coach and had many titles on his back already, but on this one, they will bow down to the Dragons. Phoenix Vs. Magnolia will be a better match-up because Phoenix also played well this conference though they went to a losing streak after having a 5-game winning streak and TBH, they might have a chance to beat the Hotshots in Game 1.

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Quote from: Fredomago on December 08, 2022, 09:10:32 AM

Speaking of Fajardo, he's fit and healthy and seems that he really wanted to win. He is helping and showing why he's the goat of this league. Adding to what you mentioned about experienced, SMB is full of experienced players, anyone can explode and bring help.

The last game was CJ Perez who leads them but with all those stars inside the squad like what i mentioned,
everyone can contribute and bring the spark for the team.

Converge was just too unlucky this time as they are facing the SMB Beermen with Fajardo and Romeo healthy once again. Even the coaching brilliance of coach Ayo will not be enough to bring Converge to the semis facing this SMC giant team. On the part of SMB Beermen, it would be interesting to see if they slay the Dragons once they face them in the next round.

Speaking of the Dragons, they will be facing ROS tonight and i'll be backing them this time even if the spread is high.

Bay Area Dragons -15.5 @1.87 vs ROS Elastopainters

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Quote from: LogitechMouse on December 07, 2022, 08:19:40 AM

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Quote from: Ziskinberg on December 07, 2022, 01:44:56 AM

Quote from: Questat on December 06, 2022, 11:16:51 PM

I'm thinking of making a parlay bet, with 2 leg parlay SMB and Ginebra, the odds is 1.600. I think that's still attractive IMO knowing how good SMB and Ginenbra. How you guys? What do you think about that parlay, is it risky or the odds are not good?

That's reasonable, you have already a big chance that Ginebra will win, the only game that worries me is the SMB vs Converge, it can go either way since Converge has a good import. Still, it's up to you as you are the one taking the risk, remember that whatever the odds are, there's always a risk.

With Perez, Romeo and Fajardo? Converge's Import did really tried but he can't do it alone, his 40points productions can't single carry the team, SMB got the pieces of their last season title, with them all healthy playing together it will be hard for converge to win against them, though it's only the first game of the best of 3 series, but the pressure now is on Converge one more win for SMB and they will move to the next round again.

2nd game now between NP and Gin kings, one more quarter and there's still a lot to happen, Gin kings is on a double digit lead not that comfortable but knowing coach Tim, it's hard to beat them when they have this good lead.

Experience.

I believe that when it comes to playoffs, experience is the one of the important factors that might have a huge effect on the outcome of the series and with this one, I believe that the experience of the whole SMB roster in the playoffs will help them defeat Converge who doesn't have that much experience when it comes to playoffs in 2 games. SMB's losses in the elimination are with JMF out because of the injury. Now that he is back, though he only scored 19 points, his presence really is a big factor to their win. 5 players in double digits including Romeo who has 13. I'm very confident that the SMB will sweep this series because of how star-studded this team is and just look at the roster on the 2 teams.

Speaking of Fajardo, he's fit and healthy and seems that he really wanted to win. He is helping and showing why he's the goat of this league. Adding to what you mentioned about experienced, SMB is full of experienced players, anyone can explode and bring help.

The last game was CJ Perez who leads them but with all those stars inside the squad like what i mentioned,
everyone can contribute and bring the spark for the team.

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Quote from: chaser15 on December 07, 2022, 12:01:05 PM

Quote from: Questat on December 06, 2022, 11:16:51 PM

I'm thinking of making a parlay bet, with 2 leg parlay SMB and Ginebra, the odds is 1.600. I think that's still attractive IMO knowing how good SMB and Ginenbra. How you guys? What do you think about that parlay, is it risky or the odds are not good?

We will really never know if it's risky or not until we actually placed a bet on it.

The moment you think it should be a good bet, don't hesitate next time and face the risks.

But regarding the pre-game decision, I'm also hesitant if SMB will win Game 1 although if we talk about the Best-of-3 series, they should win that series. Converge defeated SMB during the eliminations but with no June Mar Fajardo and Terrence Romeo for SMB. Converge is known for upsetting other big teams but maybe it's just that they are new to the pressure of being in the Quarterfinals.

If Questat bet on that parlay, he would have won his bet as SMB and Ginebra dominated their opponents, they even have covered the betting spread. This two teams still has a shot of winning the championship, but IMO, Ginebra has the advantage since the crowd always played a big factor.

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Quote from: Questat on December 06, 2022, 11:16:51 PM

I'm thinking of making a parlay bet, with 2 leg parlay SMB and Ginebra, the odds is 1.600. I think that's still attractive IMO knowing how good SMB and Ginenbra. How you guys? What do you think about that parlay, is it risky or the odds are not good?

We will really never know if it's risky or not until we actually placed a bet on it.

The moment you think it should be a good bet, don't hesitate next time and face the risks.

But regarding the pre-game decision, I'm also hesitant if SMB will win Game 1 although if we talk about the Best-of-3 series, they should win that series. Converge defeated SMB during the eliminations but with no June Mar Fajardo and Terrence Romeo for SMB. Converge is known for upsetting other big teams but maybe it's just that they are new to the pressure of being in the Quarterfinals.

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Quote from: Fredomago on December 07, 2022, 06:27:09 AM

Quote from: Ziskinberg on December 07, 2022, 01:44:56 AM

Quote from: Questat on December 06, 2022, 11:16:51 PM

I'm thinking of making a parlay bet, with 2 leg parlay SMB and Ginebra, the odds is 1.600. I think that's still attractive IMO knowing how good SMB and Ginenbra. How you guys? What do you think about that parlay, is it risky or the odds are not good?

That's reasonable, you have already a big chance that Ginebra will win, the only game that worries me is the SMB vs Converge, it can go either way since Converge has a good import. Still, it's up to you as you are the one taking the risk, remember that whatever the odds are, there's always a risk.

With Perez, Romeo and Fajardo? Converge's Import did really tried but he can't do it alone, his 40points productions can't single carry the team, SMB got the pieces of their last season title, with them all healthy playing together it will be hard for converge to win against them, though it's only the first game of the best of 3 series, but the pressure now is on Converge one more win for SMB and they will move to the next round again.

2nd game now between NP and Gin kings, one more quarter and there's still a lot to happen, Gin kings is on a double digit lead not that comfortable but knowing coach Tim, it's hard to beat them when they have this good lead.

Experience.

I believe that when it comes to playoffs, experience is the one of the important factors that might have a huge effect on the outcome of the series and with this one, I believe that the experience of the whole SMB roster in the playoffs will help them defeat Converge who doesn't have that much experience when it comes to playoffs in 2 games. SMB's losses in the elimination are with JMF out because of the injury. Now that he is back, though he only scored 19 points, his presence really is a big factor to their win. 5 players in double digits including Romeo who has 13. I'm very confident that the SMB will sweep this series because of how star-studded this team is and just look at the roster on the 2 teams.

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Quote from: Ziskinberg on December 07, 2022, 01:44:56 AM

Quote from: Questat on December 06, 2022, 11:16:51 PM

I'm thinking of making a parlay bet, with 2 leg parlay SMB and Ginebra, the odds is 1.600. I think that's still attractive IMO knowing how good SMB and Ginenbra. How you guys? What do you think about that parlay, is it risky or the odds are not good?

That's reasonable, you have already a big chance that Ginebra will win, the only game that worries me is the SMB vs Converge, it can go either way since Converge has a good import. Still, it's up to you as you are the one taking the risk, remember that whatever the odds are, there's always a risk.

With Perez, Romeo and Fajardo? Converge's Import did really tried but he can't do it alone, his 40points productions can't single carry the team, SMB got the pieces of their last season title, with them all healthy playing together it will be hard for converge to win against them, though it's only the first game of the best of 3 series, but the pressure now is on Converge one more win for SMB and they will move to the next round again.

2nd game now between NP and Gin kings, one more quarter and there's still a lot to happen, Gin kings is on a double digit lead not that comfortable but knowing coach Tim, it's hard to beat them when they have this good lead.

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Quote from: Questat on December 06, 2022, 11:16:51 PM

I'm thinking of making a parlay bet, with 2 leg parlay SMB and Ginebra, the odds is 1.600. I think that's still attractive IMO knowing how good SMB and Ginenbra. How you guys? What do you think about that parlay, is it risky or the odds are not good?

That's reasonable, you have already a big chance that Ginebra will win, the only game that worries me is the SMB vs Converge, it can go either way since Converge has a good import. Still, it's up to you as you are the one taking the risk, remember that whatever the odds are, there's always a risk.

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I'm thinking of making a parlay bet, with 2 leg parlay SMB and Ginebra, the odds is 1.600. I think that's still attractive IMO knowing how good SMB and Ginenbra. How you guys? What do you think about that parlay, is it risky or the odds are not good?

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Quote from: mirakal on December 05, 2022, 08:23:12 AM

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My prediction here are as follows.

Ginebra will beat NO (2-0)
Bay Area will eliminate ROS in 1 game
SMB will beat converge (2-1)
Magnolia will beat Phoenix (2-1)

My prediction is almost the same as this one. The only differences that I think will happen are:
Ginebra will defeat NorthPort 2-1
Magnolia will beat Phoenix 2-0.
This might be a surprise (and a bit of a bias since I'm an SMB fan) but we might see them winning against Converge 2-0.
Bay Area will finish this one in one game easily.

We will know the result today on some of the games, we have 2 games today.

Ginebra vs Northport
Converge vs SMB

I was checking the betting odds in my sportsbook but there's no available line yet, anyone here already put their bets on the games later?
I'm curious what would be the spread of the two games.

You can check on stake.com, they already have the betting odds available if you want to bet early. As expected, Ginebra and SMB are heavy favorites against their respective opponents. We've seen Romeo in their previous game, so I'm expecting him to play more minutes as converge is a tough team this conference, it's a best of 3 so game 1 is very important.

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Quote from: LogitechMouse on December 06, 2022, 10:09:50 PM

Quote from: mirakal on December 05, 2022, 08:23:12 AM

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My prediction here are as follows.

Ginebra will beat NO (2-0)
Bay Area will eliminate ROS in 1 game
SMB will beat converge (2-1)
Magnolia will beat Phoenix (2-1)

My prediction is almost the same as this one. The only differences that I think will happen are:
Ginebra will defeat NorthPort 2-1
Magnolia will beat Phoenix 2-0.
This might be a surprise (and a bit of a bias since I'm an SMB fan) but we might see them winning against Converge 2-0.
Bay Area will finish this one in one game easily.

We will know the result today on some of the games, we have 2 games today.

Ginebra vs Northport
Converge vs SMB

I was checking the betting odds in my sportsbook but there's no available line yet, anyone here already put their bets on the games later?
I'm curious what would be the spread of the two games.

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