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December 04, 2022, 06:46:34 AM
So this is now where Chot won't participate in the playoffs after 21 years. He became a fun meme for most PBA and basketball fans recently because of his attitude towards the game and for being too selfish about coaching two teams, Gilas and his team.
I think his team being out is actually good if you're thinking about the Gilas so that he can focus there more and there won't be any distractions anymore from the playoffs. And then from there, prove the critics wrong and show that he deserves wherever he is.

If his team does not qualify for the playoffs, then how can you expect they'll do better in international competition? Gilas are probably composed of lots of TNT players because he is the coach, so I don't see the team being a quality team to be competitive enough against the big and more agile teams.

International games are different from PBA, although the team has plenty of TNT players the team is composed of star players and they are still competitive. TNT just miss the playoffs in one conference and we are already overreactive, come on guys, give them next time, for sure they will bounce back as long as they are healthy.
TNT is still a great team though with a lot of good finish from previous conference, maybe they just don't have the chemistry yet but with regards to their talents we should not disregard it, this conference might not be for them and other teams are just so eager to at least get into the playoffs. Let's not just blame Coach Chot here, the whole team did their best its just that, its not enough. We have to move on and focus on the teams that are still playing, there will be more surprises for this conference for sure.
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December 04, 2022, 06:32:34 AM
They need to act as pro since they are in the league which expected to be all at the professional level, refs should do their job and not to allow doubtful calls like this, better to say that they need to do their job and make the right calls, even it's  non bearing game there are viewers who will be dissapointed, especially those fans who also bets for their team.

If the call was right the chance of tying the game is possible, maybe upset can take place if ever that the ref did the right thing here.

Missed calls happens whether it is a barangay league, PBA or NBA. They are just part of the game. I think the league needs to put some fine to the erring refs so it would happen less because it affects the game. But the refs are just human, on a high speed and intense game, they can make wrong calls sometimes. It is just them being human. Players and coaches already accepted that call when the game is over because they know it cannot be reversed anymore. Fans should move on too because there is no benefit in playing the "what ifs" of the situation. 



I get your point and it's valid, but you know gambler's mindset, right? hahaha but kidding aside, refs are being fine if I'm not mistaken they are getting sanctions to the point that they can lose their job if there's a complaint regarding to how they initiate the calls, on the side of fans, nothing can be reverse so better to move on and forget about the game, just give the best wishes for the team and continue supporting them whatever happens the entertainment that the team provides is what is important to every viewers and fans.

So this is now where Chot won't participate in the playoffs after 21 years. He became a fun meme for most PBA and basketball fans recently because of his attitude towards the game and for being too selfish about coaching two teams, Gilas and his team.
I think his team being out is actually good if you're thinking about the Gilas so that he can focus there more and there won't be any distractions anymore from the playoffs. And then from there, prove the critics wrong and show that he deserves wherever he is.

If his team does not qualify for the playoffs, then how can you expect they'll do better in international competition? Gilas are probably composed of lots of TNT players because he is the coach, so I don't see the team being a quality team to be competitive enough against the big and more agile teams.

International games are different from PBA, although the team has plenty of TNT players the team is composed of star players and they are still competitive. TNT just miss the playoffs in one conference and we are already overreactive, come on guys, give them next time, for sure they will bounce back as long as they are healthy.

TNT is not the kind of team that will missed the playoff most of the time, in fact it is not usual for this team. Just an overreactions from critics, and what do we expect from those, just  a good negative write up to attract readers or viewers, as simple as that but expect a bounce back for this MVP team next season.
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December 04, 2022, 05:49:11 AM
So this is now where Chot won't participate in the playoffs after 21 years. He became a fun meme for most PBA and basketball fans recently because of his attitude towards the game and for being too selfish about coaching two teams, Gilas and his team.
I think his team being out is actually good if you're thinking about the Gilas so that he can focus there more and there won't be any distractions anymore from the playoffs. And then from there, prove the critics wrong and show that he deserves wherever he is.

If his team does not qualify for the playoffs, then how can you expect they'll do better in international competition? Gilas are probably composed of lots of TNT players because he is the coach, so I don't see the team being a quality team to be competitive enough against the big and more agile teams.

International games are different from PBA, although the team has plenty of TNT players the team is composed of star players and they are still competitive. TNT just miss the playoffs in one conference and we are already overreactive, come on guys, give them next time, for sure they will bounce back as long as they are healthy.
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December 04, 2022, 05:35:01 AM
So this is now where Chot won't participate in the playoffs after 21 years. He became a fun meme for most PBA and basketball fans recently because of his attitude towards the game and for being too selfish about coaching two teams, Gilas and his team.
I think his team being out is actually good if you're thinking about the Gilas so that he can focus there more and there won't be any distractions anymore from the playoffs. And then from there, prove the critics wrong and show that he deserves wherever he is.

If his team does not qualify for the playoffs, then how can you expect they'll do better in international competition? Gilas are probably composed of lots of TNT players because he is the coach, so I don't see the team being a quality team to be competitive enough against the big and more agile teams.
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December 03, 2022, 05:05:13 PM
So this is now where Chot won't participate in the playoffs after 21 years. He became a fun meme for most PBA and basketball fans recently because of his attitude towards the game and for being too selfish about coaching two teams, Gilas and his team.
I think his team being out is actually good if you're thinking about the Gilas so that he can focus there more and there won't be any distractions anymore from the playoffs. And then from there, prove the critics wrong and show that he deserves wherever he is.
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December 03, 2022, 05:01:52 PM
They need to act as pro since they are in the league which expected to be all at the professional level, refs should do their job and not to allow doubtful calls like this, better to say that they need to do their job and make the right calls, even it's  non bearing game there are viewers who will be dissapointed, especially those fans who also bets for their team.

If the call was right the chance of tying the game is possible, maybe upset can take place if ever that the ref did the right thing here.

Missed calls happens whether it is a barangay league, PBA or NBA. They are just part of the game. I think the league needs to put some fine to the erring refs so it would happen less because it affects the game. But the refs are just human, on a high speed and intense game, they can make wrong calls sometimes. It is just them being human. Players and coaches already accepted that call when the game is over because they know it cannot be reversed anymore. Fans should move on too because there is no benefit in playing the "what ifs" of the situation. 

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December 03, 2022, 04:39:18 PM
They need to act as pro since they are in the league which expected to be all at the professional level, refs should do their job and not to allow doubtful calls like this, better to say that they need to do their job and make the right calls, even it's  non bearing game there are viewers who will be dissapointed, especially those fans who also bets for their team.

If the call was right the chance of tying the game is possible, maybe upset can take place if ever that the ref did the right thing here.
This is not the first time we hear some negative feedbacks about the decision of the referees to make that call, if that is wrong then something is wrong with those referees which I think the league should really investigate. Every game is important to every players and viewers, we should not tolerate this kind of mistake because again this is not the first time. PBA should assure the quality of the referees and ensure us that they will officiate the game professionally. What more if that wrong calls happen in the finals, I'm sure the fans will outrage.
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December 03, 2022, 02:08:46 PM
That miss calls always happened in PBA and I think they should review the quality of their referees,

There is no doubt that the league only hires professional referees so we can conclude that quality is not really a question. Honestly, questionable or considered missed calls are being reviewed by the league especially if that call plays a big role in the final result of the game. Unfortunately, even after being reviewed or successfully changed, or modified, it doesn't change the actual result of the game.

The only action that the league is being imposed is suspending or giving a penalty to the involved referee and that's it. It will now be forgotten later on.

The referee's actions in a crucial moment really affect the result of the game. Might be favorable or not to a certain team.
I remembered again the non-contact call of Brian Heruela against Paul Lee during the bubble, but the referees called a foul on it. Cheesy

Well, they are just people even though they are professional referees. Referees in the NBA are doing many mistakes as well like not calling travels etc. The management has imposed a suspension on the said referee. I just hope that things like this will never happen especially on a professional league like the PBA. It's a non-bearing game for both of the teams anyway, but still, they must do what they must do, and it is to do correct calls.

They need to act as pro since they are in the league which expected to be all at the professional level, refs should do their job and not to allow doubtful calls like this, better to say that they need to do their job and make the right calls, even it's  non bearing game there are viewers who will be dissapointed, especially those fans who also bets for their team.

If the call was right the chance of tying the game is possible, maybe upset can take place if ever that the ref did the right thing here.
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December 03, 2022, 10:24:43 AM


That miss calls always happened in PBA and I think they should review the quality of their referees,

There is no doubt that the league only hires professional referees so we can conclude that quality is not really a question. Honestly, questionable or considered missed calls are being reviewed by the league especially if that call plays a big role in the final result of the game. Unfortunately, even after being reviewed or successfully changed, or modified, it doesn't change the actual result of the game.

The only action that the league is being imposed is suspending or giving a penalty to the involved referee and that's it. It will now be forgotten later on.

The referee's actions in a crucial moment really affect the result of the game. Might be favorable or not to a certain team.
I remembered again the non-contact call of Brian Heruela against Paul Lee during the bubble, but the referees called a foul on it. Cheesy

Well, they are just people even though they are professional referees. Referees in the NBA are doing many mistakes as well like not calling travels etc. The management has imposed a suspension on the said referee. I just hope that things like this will never happen especially on a professional league like the PBA. It's a non-bearing game for both of the teams anyway, but still, they must do what they must do, and it is to do correct calls.

Even though their referees see professional but still they are human they are not perfect and sometimes they miss a call and that what's happening. But this miss call would not be happen again and the management will take an action about this and their referees must be in good condition, so that their calls are straight and avoid miss call. But for me it will be okay as we all know that they are human they are not perfect.
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December 03, 2022, 09:55:29 AM
That miss calls always happened in PBA and I think they should review the quality of their referees,

There is no doubt that the league only hires professional referees so we can conclude that quality is not really a question. Honestly, questionable or considered missed calls are being reviewed by the league especially if that call plays a big role in the final result of the game. Unfortunately, even after being reviewed or successfully changed, or modified, it doesn't change the actual result of the game.

The only action that the league is being imposed is suspending or giving a penalty to the involved referee and that's it. It will now be forgotten later on.

The referee's actions in a crucial moment really affect the result of the game. Might be favorable or not to a certain team.
I remembered again the non-contact call of Brian Heruela against Paul Lee during the bubble, but the referees called a foul on it. Cheesy

Well, they are just people even though they are professional referees. Referees in the NBA are doing many mistakes as well like not calling travels etc. The management has imposed a suspension on the said referee. I just hope that things like this will never happen especially on a professional league like the PBA. It's a non-bearing game for both of the teams anyway, but still, they must do what they must do, and it is to do correct calls.
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December 03, 2022, 09:13:30 AM
Romeo playing with limited minutes now but is very efficient already.

He already had 8 points from 3/6 shooting, and SMB is already leading by 20 points so most likely Romeo will have more minutes since he is playing very well. SMB is really different in situations where they badly need a win, so I guess we have a winner already.

It ended up a close game, if the ref did the right call when Lassiter was on back court violation, there's a chance the game will go to OT. By the way, Romeo finished with 12 points with 16 minutes of playing and his shooting percentage is very poor, 5/14.
Rigged!!!!!!!!!! Just kidding Cheesy

It's a no bearing game for both teams since SMB already secured the 5th spot and the Bolts is already eliminated. With regards to Romeo, like I said, I didn't expect too much from him since he just came back after an injury that caused him not to play for months. 5/14 is very poor indeed but scoring 12 points in his comeback is already a good one.

For the final match-up for the 8th spot, it will be the Rain or Shine Vs. the NLEX. Will we see an MVP team in the playoffs this conference or they all MVP teams will be totally eliminated. Nevertheless, whoever wins between the two, they can't beat Bay Area Dragons. Tongue

Whether it's a no bearing game or an important game, refs did really missed making the right call, so I understand why people are talking about that game. I don't know the point spread, but if that ball was given to Meralco, they have the last position to tie the game.

Anyway, that's over and we should not be surprise as this is PBA where miss calls happens. LOL


Replay tells it all and even I'm a SMB fan ref still need to call the right decision with that violation, it's a clear missed call after watching the replay, though it's done and nothing can be change now but it will bring more doubts about how the ref handling this league, those who are betting for Meralco or for the handicap are surely disappointed since Meralco can tie the game if being permitted with the right call.

Moving forward, SMB is now moving and will try to defend their title. If Romeo and Fajardo will play healthy on their next following games, it will be a tough match up for converse.

We know how both Romeo and Fajardo once they start making their usual productions. The big factor here is how converge import will bring his squad competing with a tough caliber and defending champ from this conference.

SMB has Romeo now, and they will only be better, and with Fajardo back already, that will add more confidence to the team. Though they are not on top of the ranking, I think they are still the team to beat. Of course, Ginebra has Brownlee who had lots of success in the playoffs but this time it's going to be different, SMB won't win the championship because SMB will ruin their plan.
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December 03, 2022, 02:52:20 AM
That miss calls always happened in PBA and I think they should review the quality of their referees,

There is no doubt that the league only hires professional referees so we can conclude that quality is not really a question. Honestly, questionable or considered missed calls are being reviewed by the league especially if that call plays a big role in the final result of the game. Unfortunately, even after being reviewed or successfully changed, or modified, it doesn't change the actual result of the game.

The only action that the league is being imposed is suspending or giving a penalty to the involved referee and that's it. It will now be forgotten later on.

The referee's actions in a crucial moment really affect the result of the game. Might be favorable or not to a certain team.

If they are serious about giving them a punishment, they should not forget that it should be added to their employee's files to see if they are really doing their job. We can understand if it happened a few times only but if it will happen many times, then we should question the credibility of the refs or worst the league itself.
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December 02, 2022, 05:12:50 PM
That miss calls always happened in PBA and I think they should review the quality of their referees,

There is no doubt that the league only hires professional referees so we can conclude that quality is not really a question. Honestly, questionable or considered missed calls are being reviewed by the league especially if that call plays a big role in the final result of the game. Unfortunately, even after being reviewed or successfully changed, or modified, it doesn't change the actual result of the game.

The only action that the league is being imposed is suspending or giving a penalty to the involved referee and that's it. It will now be forgotten later on.

The referee's actions in a crucial moment really affect the result of the game. Might be favorable or not to a certain team.
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December 02, 2022, 04:29:03 PM
Romeo playing with limited minutes now but is very efficient already.

He already had 8 points from 3/6 shooting, and SMB is already leading by 20 points so most likely Romeo will have more minutes since he is playing very well. SMB is really different in situations where they badly need a win, so I guess we have a winner already.

It ended up a close game, if the ref did the right call when Lassiter was on back court violation, there's a chance the game will go to OT. By the way, Romeo finished with 12 points with 16 minutes of playing and his shooting percentage is very poor, 5/14.
As expected with Romeo, he still finding his rhythm back and having 12 points for 16 minutes of playing was already a great contribution to the team. That miss calls always happened in PBA and I think they should review the quality of their referees, anyway SMB already secured a spot for the next spot and for sure they will work hard to advance into semis, now that Romeo and JMF is slowly getting better.
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December 02, 2022, 12:57:27 PM
Romeo playing with limited minutes now but is very efficient already.

He already had 8 points from 3/6 shooting, and SMB is already leading by 20 points so most likely Romeo will have more minutes since he is playing very well. SMB is really different in situations where they badly need a win, so I guess we have a winner already.

It ended up a close game, if the ref did the right call when Lassiter was on back court violation, there's a chance the game will go to OT. By the way, Romeo finished with 12 points with 16 minutes of playing and his shooting percentage is very poor, 5/14.
Rigged!!!!!!!!!! Just kidding Cheesy

It's a no bearing game for both teams since SMB already secured the 5th spot and the Bolts is already eliminated. With regards to Romeo, like I said, I didn't expect too much from him since he just came back after an injury that caused him not to play for months. 5/14 is very poor indeed but scoring 12 points in his comeback is already a good one.

For the final match-up for the 8th spot, it will be the Rain or Shine Vs. the NLEX. Will we see an MVP team in the playoffs this conference or they all MVP teams will be totally eliminated. Nevertheless, whoever wins between the two, they can't beat Bay Area Dragons. Tongue

Whether it's a no bearing game or an important game, refs did really missed making the right call, so I understand why people are talking about that game. I don't know the point spread, but if that ball was given to Meralco, they have the last position to tie the game.

Anyway, that's over and we should not be surprise as this is PBA where miss calls happens. LOL


Replay tells it all and even I'm a SMB fan ref still need to call the right decision with that violation, it's a clear missed call after watching the replay, though it's done and nothing can be change now but it will bring more doubts about how the ref handling this league, those who are betting for Meralco or for the handicap are surely disappointed since Meralco can tie the game if being permitted with the right call.

Moving forward, SMB is now moving and will try to defend their title. If Romeo and Fajardo will play healthy on their next following games, it will be a tough match up for converse.

We know how both Romeo and Fajardo once they start making their usual productions. The big factor here is how converge import will bring his squad competing with a tough caliber and defending champ from this conference.
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December 02, 2022, 09:24:16 AM
Romeo playing with limited minutes now but is very efficient already.

He already had 8 points from 3/6 shooting, and SMB is already leading by 20 points so most likely Romeo will have more minutes since he is playing very well. SMB is really different in situations where they badly need a win, so I guess we have a winner already.

It ended up a close game, if the ref did the right call when Lassiter was on back court violation, there's a chance the game will go to OT. By the way, Romeo finished with 12 points with 16 minutes of playing and his shooting percentage is very poor, 5/14.
Rigged!!!!!!!!!! Just kidding Cheesy

It's a no bearing game for both teams since SMB already secured the 5th spot and the Bolts is already eliminated. With regards to Romeo, like I said, I didn't expect too much from him since he just came back after an injury that caused him not to play for months. 5/14 is very poor indeed but scoring 12 points in his comeback is already a good one.

For the final match-up for the 8th spot, it will be the Rain or Shine Vs. the NLEX. Will we see an MVP team in the playoffs this conference or they all MVP teams will be totally eliminated. Nevertheless, whoever wins between the two, they can't beat Bay Area Dragons. Tongue

Whether it's a no bearing game or an important game, refs did really missed making the right call, so I understand why people are talking about that game. I don't know the point spread, but if that ball was given to Meralco, they have the last position to tie the game.

Anyway, that's over and we should not be surprise as this is PBA where miss calls happens. LOL
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December 02, 2022, 09:15:19 AM
Romeo playing with limited minutes now but is very efficient already.

He already had 8 points from 3/6 shooting, and SMB is already leading by 20 points so most likely Romeo will have more minutes since he is playing very well. SMB is really different in situations where they badly need a win, so I guess we have a winner already.

It ended up a close game, if the ref did the right call when Lassiter was on back court violation, there's a chance the game will go to OT. By the way, Romeo finished with 12 points with 16 minutes of playing and his shooting percentage is very poor, 5/14.
Rigged!!!!!!!!!! Just kidding Cheesy

It's a no bearing game for both teams since SMB already secured the 5th spot and the Bolts is already eliminated. With regards to Romeo, like I said, I didn't expect too much from him since he just came back after an injury that caused him not to play for months. 5/14 is very poor indeed but scoring 12 points in his comeback is already a good one.

For the final match-up for the 8th spot, it will be the Rain or Shine Vs. the NLEX. Will we see an MVP team in the playoffs this conference or they all MVP teams will be totally eliminated. Nevertheless, whoever wins between the two, they can't beat Bay Area Dragons. Tongue
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December 02, 2022, 08:11:44 AM
SMB indeed win despite Fajardo and Romeo only played with limited minutes, JMF only contributed 9 points, so different compared to his usual numbers when he is 100% healthy. It's still a big win by SMB although it looks very controversial.  Grin

The first half ended with SMB in the lead by 20 points and when I checked in the last minute of the game, that lead was eradicated by Meralco. 30 seconds left in the game and SMB was just leading by 3 points. I did not watch the second half so I was surprised to see that it was a close game in the end. SMB did not take good care of their lead and the win was almost snatched by Meralco.

It ended up a close game, if the ref did the right call when Lassiter was on back court violation, there's a chance the game will go to OT. By the way, Romeo finished with 12 points with 16 minutes of playing and his shooting percentage is very poor, 5/14.


That is his game. He is a volume shooter and if he gets lucky, those shots will fall. But if not, this is the result, a very low shooting percentage. He just got back in the game from a very long rest due to injury, it is expected that it will take some time before he gets back into good shooting form. The limited minutes are proof that SMB is slowly getting him back into the game. When his full minutes are back, we will see a better result from Romeo.
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December 02, 2022, 07:49:45 AM
Romeo playing with limited minutes now but is very efficient already.

He already had 8 points from 3/6 shooting, and SMB is already leading by 20 points so most likely Romeo will have more minutes since he is playing very well. SMB is really different in situations where they badly need a win, so I guess we have a winner already.

It ended up a close game, if the ref did the right call when Lassiter was on back court violation, there's a chance the game will go to OT. By the way, Romeo finished with 12 points with 16 minutes of playing and his shooting percentage is very poor, 5/14.
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December 02, 2022, 07:46:01 AM
I don't know if SMB has the weapons to beat Converge TBH because they are a strong team as well, but let's see how they will play.

I would not question SMB's capability, I think the question would go to Converge. I get it, they are hot currently but comes playoffs time, it's going to be a different story so I'll always back SMB against Converge TBH.

I will agree with you on that one because SMB can't be underestimated in the playoffs since that's their favorite situation in the PBA season. Romeo will undoubtedly bring some energy and with JMF back in the lineup, he will be a big problem inside especially if he will be playing close to 100% soon.

SMB indeed win despite Fajardo and Romeo only played with limited minutes, JMF only contributed 9 points, so different compared to his usual numbers when he is 100% healthy. It's still a big win by SMB although it looks very controversial.  Grin
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