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Quote from: Russlenat on December 11, 2022, 06:53:32 AM

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Quote from: Fredomago on December 10, 2022, 03:15:26 PM

But likewise, seems boring to see both SMC to compete in the finals. Gin kings against the heavy favorite visiting team will attract more audiences, that might be the scenery in the finals...

Might be boring but we don't have entertaining teams in the league to compete in the Finals aside from SMC teams and foreign teams.

But yes, it would be more entertaining if the Dragons will be in the Finals.

I'm looking forward on BGSM making it to the Finals. Although most SMC teams can match with the Dragons, I prefer BGSM to do the job facing that team.

Depending on the outcome of the semi Finals, if SMB will have an impressive win against the Dragons, then I think I will be backing them to win the championship ship. For now, the best team is the Dragons due to their good record, and although they are tied with Magnolia in the number 1 spott but Dragons are still the better team.

The semi-finals will start on December 14, so they have plenty of time to rest, especially for the import of Magnolia who has a minor injury that he suffered in game 2 against Phoenix.

The team to beat is the Bay Area as being mentioned from the post above that the 3 teams who made into the finals are all SMC franchise, I go with you for sure, as I'm very vocal with how I support SMB if they will beat the Bay area/visiting team for sure the chance of winning the finals and defend their title is possible,.

We will all witness what preparations all four teams have since the semis will begin on Dec 14, enough rest for everyone.

Expect they will use that time to prepare and create plays to execute on their respective matches.

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Quote from: Yamifoud on December 11, 2022, 07:10:53 AM

Yes, they have plenty of time to rest and to figure out how to beat their opponent. Well, the betting odds are not out yet so we cannot decide whether we will bet early or not. PBA should follow the style of NBA where they make the odds available early.

PBA is a small league for them that is why i doubt that they will offer betting odds early like the "outrights" odds in the NBA so for us to bet on the series we have to bet against amongst us just like the old times hehe.

Quote from: Yamifoud on December 11, 2022, 07:10:53 AM

By the way guys, are you still interested on betting here? I mean local betting, that would be fun if we have some bets here.

This will be interesting if some users here are willing to bet as we have an evenly matched semis this conference.

Dragons vs Beermen
Hotshots vs Kings

The only problem is who is going to lead the betting.

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Quote from: Russlenat on December 11, 2022, 06:53:32 AM

Quote from: harizen on December 10, 2022, 06:55:34 PM

Quote from: Fredomago on December 10, 2022, 03:15:26 PM

But likewise, seems boring to see both SMC to compete in the finals. Gin kings against the heavy favorite visiting team will attract more audiences, that might be the scenery in the finals...

Might be boring but we don't have entertaining teams in the league to compete in the Finals aside from SMC teams and foreign teams.

But yes, it would be more entertaining if the Dragons will be in the Finals.

I'm looking forward on BGSM making it to the Finals. Although most SMC teams can match with the Dragons, I prefer BGSM to do the job facing that team.

Depending on the outcome of the semi Finals, if SMB will have an impressive win against the Dragons, then I think I will be backing them to win the championship ship. For now, the best team is the Dragons due to their good record, and although they are tied with Magnolia in the number 1 spott but Dragons are still the better team.

The semi-finals will start on December 14, so they have plenty of time to rest, especially for the import of Magnolia who has a minor injury that he suffered in game 2 against Phoenix.

Yes, they have plenty of time to rest and to figure out how to beat their opponent. Well, the betting odds are not out yet so we cannot decide whether we will bet early or not. PBA should follow the style of NBA where they make the odds available early.

By the way guys, are you still interested on betting here? I mean local betting, that would be fun if we have some bets here.

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Quote from: harizen on December 10, 2022, 06:55:34 PM

Quote from: Fredomago on December 10, 2022, 03:15:26 PM

But likewise, seems boring to see both SMC to compete in the finals. Gin kings against the heavy favorite visiting team will attract more audiences, that might be the scenery in the finals...

Might be boring but we don't have entertaining teams in the league to compete in the Finals aside from SMC teams and foreign teams.

But yes, it would be more entertaining if the Dragons will be in the Finals.

I'm looking forward on BGSM making it to the Finals. Although most SMC teams can match with the Dragons, I prefer BGSM to do the job facing that team.

Depending on the outcome of the semi Finals, if SMB will have an impressive win against the Dragons, then I think I will be backing them to win the championship ship. For now, the best team is the Dragons due to their good record, and although they are tied with Magnolia in the number 1 spott but Dragons are still the better team.

The semi-finals will start on December 14, so they have plenty of time to rest, especially for the import of Magnolia who has a minor injury that he suffered in game 2 against Phoenix.

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Quote from: Fredomago on December 10, 2022, 03:15:26 PM

But likewise, seems boring to see both SMC to compete in the finals. Gin kings against the heavy favorite visiting team will attract more audiences, that might be the scenery in the finals...

Might be boring but we don't have entertaining teams in the league to compete in the Finals aside from SMC teams and foreign teams.

But yes, it would be more entertaining if the Dragons will be in the Finals.

I'm looking forward on BGSM making it to the Finals. Although most SMC teams can match with the Dragons, I prefer BGSM to do the job facing that team.

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Quote from: LogitechMouse on December 10, 2022, 11:08:45 AM

Quote from: Johnyz on December 10, 2022, 09:02:56 AM

Quote from: Japinat on December 10, 2022, 06:05:39 AM

Ginebra has now advance to the semi finals, they beat the Northport in a close game. (99-93).

Now, we are seeing the SMB vs Converge, a win of SMB here will make them the rival of the Bay Area Dragons in the semi-finals.
Hopefully, there's one more shot for Converge to make it a doe or die in game 3.

Too bad for Converge, there will be no game 3 because SMB will advance now to the semi-final against Bay Area.
So its final now, SMC group of companies will battle for the championship here against the lone challenger Bay Area Dragons. Quiet not exciting though but of course we know who is the crowd favorite here. SMB can still have a good chance of winning here now that JMF and Romeo is coming back slowly but surely.

Too easy for SMC and like what always happen, independent teams if they reach the playoffs always lose in the first round of the playoffs.

The Dragons are like the black sheep of the league right now. Well, now that we are seeing SMC teams plus the Dragons going into the Semis, I'm thinking that the Dragons has a high chance to go to the Finals. I mean, it will be very boring if we will see SMC Vs. SMC in the PBA Finals right? I'm still rooting to my earlier prediction which is Bay Area Vs. Ginebra in the PBA Finals. Cheesy

I go with you, though my team is the one who will going to face Bay Area and we all know that this match is really an anticipated to go with a do-or-die game, unless SMB will give up in the early stage, but with Fajardo and all the familiar faces of SMB squad, I'm sure they will give this visiting team a tough competition.

But likewise, seems boring to see both SMC to compete in the finals. Gin kings against the heavy favorite visiting team will attract more audiences, that might be the scenery in the finals...

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Quote from: Johnyz on December 10, 2022, 09:02:56 AM

Quote from: Japinat on December 10, 2022, 06:05:39 AM

Ginebra has now advance to the semi finals, they beat the Northport in a close game. (99-93).

Now, we are seeing the SMB vs Converge, a win of SMB here will make them the rival of the Bay Area Dragons in the semi-finals.
Hopefully, there's one more shot for Converge to make it a doe or die in game 3.

Too bad for Converge, there will be no game 3 because SMB will advance now to the semi-final against Bay Area.
So its final now, SMC group of companies will battle for the championship here against the lone challenger Bay Area Dragons. Quiet not exciting though but of course we know who is the crowd favorite here. SMB can still have a good chance of winning here now that JMF and Romeo is coming back slowly but surely.

Too easy for SMC and like what always happen, independent teams if they reach the playoffs always lose in the first round of the playoffs.

The Dragons are like the black sheep of the league right now. Well, now that we are seeing SMC teams plus the Dragons going into the Semis, I'm thinking that the Dragons has a high chance to go to the Finals. I mean, it will be very boring if we will see SMC Vs. SMC in the PBA Finals right? I'm still rooting to my earlier prediction which is Bay Area Vs. Ginebra in the PBA Finals. Cheesy

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Quote from: Johnyz on December 10, 2022, 09:02:56 AM

Quote from: Japinat on December 10, 2022, 06:05:39 AM

Ginebra has now advance to the semi finals, they beat the Northport in a close game. (99-93).

Now, we are seeing the SMB vs Converge, a win of SMB here will make them the rival of the Bay Area Dragons in the semi-finals.
Hopefully, there's one more shot for Converge to make it a doe or die in game 3.

Too bad for Converge, there will be no game 3 because SMB will advance now to the semi-final against Bay Area.
So its final now, SMC group of companies will battle for the championship here against the lone challenger Bay Area Dragons. Quiet not exciting though but of course we know who is the crowd favorite here. SMB can still have a good chance of winning here now that JMF and Romeo is coming back slowly but surely.

Yes too bad for converge as we all know that they are twice to beat advantage. Now SMB team will up to the semifinals as we all know that the only problem of SMB team is that how to beat the Bay area Dragons which we all know how strong they are and also this is a good matchup San Miguel vs Bay area Dragon unlike ginebra vs Magnolia, of course, we all know that Ginebra will take the advantage for this.

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Quote from: Japinat on December 10, 2022, 06:05:39 AM

Ginebra has now advance to the semi finals, they beat the Northport in a close game. (99-93).

Now, we are seeing the SMB vs Converge, a win of SMB here will make them the rival of the Bay Area Dragons in the semi-finals.
Hopefully, there's one more shot for Converge to make it a doe or die in game 3.

Too bad for Converge, there will be no game 3 because SMB will advance now to the semi-final against Bay Area.
So its final now, SMC group of companies will battle for the championship here against the lone challenger Bay Area Dragons. Quiet not exciting though but of course we know who is the crowd favorite here. SMB can still have a good chance of winning here now that JMF and Romeo is coming back slowly but surely.

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Ginebra has now advance to the semi finals, they beat the Northport in a close game. (99-93).

Now, we are seeing the SMB vs Converge, a win of SMB here will make them the rival of the Bay Area Dragons in the semi-finals.
Hopefully, there's one more shot for Converge to make it a doe or die in game 3.

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Quote from: Botnake on December 10, 2022, 02:28:44 AM

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Although comparing the overall player ratings between the Dragons and ROS, the distance is really that gap in favor of the Dragons. ROS doesn't really stand a chance against them but it's a good experience for them to face such a monster team in the quarterfinals.

Not much of an experience though since it is only 1 game. I believe they are already eliminated since the Dragons have a twice-to-beat advantage.

They had already faced before the elimination, and the outcome was still the same. In short, they have not learned from their experience, or maybe the Dragons are just too good for the ROS, this team have to evaluate their roster and make a huge improvement next season.

They don't have the talent to match with the visiting team, the same outcome from the last game that they've got during elimination. RoS can't stand the heavy dominance of Bay Area, I'm excited now since SMB is one game away to move forward and they will be facing the visiting team, with Fajardo and Romeo and the rest of talents of SMB for sure it won't be a blowout for the visiting team.

They are against the defending champ and knowing how the team plays together, they are classified as a powerhouse team in this league.

Though before they can move forward, SMB still needs another win against the young but impressive Converge, unpredictable but the bookies give SMB as heavy favorite here.

That's going to be an exciting match up, with Fajardo slowly going back to his normal form, I think it will not be easy for the visiting team to beat the SMB team. Plus, if they will survive against SMB, for sure they will face the Ginebra Gin Kings, the team that beat them with a huge margin.

So both of us are excited, me for SMB in the semis and you, forgetting that Mags are also a good competitor with the way they are playing together, though against Brgy the huge advantage of the crowd the manila classico semi-finals in the making, something that fans will really enjoy. Less than 3 mins and the game is almost done between NP and the BRGY, still have a good lead for Brgy 9 points but anything can happen until we don't hear the last buzzer.

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Quote from: Fredomago on December 10, 2022, 02:08:15 AM

Though before they can move forward, SMB still needs another win against the young but impressive Converge, unpredictable but the bookies give SMB as heavy favorite here.

Exactly, we are too excited about a possible match-up of SMB and Bay Area and we forgot they still have one game to win. Converge maybe not so competitive in the first game, but I'm pretty sure they'll come up with a good plan to upset the SMB, I'm thinking of betting the underdog and will be taking the handicap.

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Quote from: Fredomago on December 10, 2022, 02:08:15 AM

Quote from: Botnake on December 09, 2022, 09:13:19 PM

Quote from: jakelyson on December 09, 2022, 06:27:07 PM

Quote from: harizen on December 09, 2022, 06:08:12 PM

Although comparing the overall player ratings between the Dragons and ROS, the distance is really that gap in favor of the Dragons. ROS doesn't really stand a chance against them but it's a good experience for them to face such a monster team in the quarterfinals.

Not much of an experience though since it is only 1 game. I believe they are already eliminated since the Dragons have a twice-to-beat advantage.

They had already faced before the elimination, and the outcome was still the same. In short, they have not learned from their experience, or maybe the Dragons are just too good for the ROS, this team have to evaluate their roster and make a huge improvement next season.

They don't have the talent to match with the visiting team, the same outcome from the last game that they've got during elimination. RoS can't stand the heavy dominance of Bay Area, I'm excited now since SMB is one game away to move forward and they will be facing the visiting team, with Fajardo and Romeo and the rest of talents of SMB for sure it won't be a blowout for the visiting team.

They are against the defending champ and knowing how the team plays together, they are classified as a powerhouse team in this league.

Though before they can move forward, SMB still needs another win against the young but impressive Converge, unpredictable but the bookies give SMB as heavy favorite here.

That's going to be an exciting match up, with Fajardo slowly going back to his normal form, I think it will not be easy for the visiting team to beat the SMB team. Plus, if they will survive against SMB, for sure they will face the Ginebra Gin Kings, the team that beat them with a huge margin.

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Quote from: Botnake on December 09, 2022, 09:13:19 PM

Quote from: jakelyson on December 09, 2022, 06:27:07 PM

Quote from: harizen on December 09, 2022, 06:08:12 PM

Although comparing the overall player ratings between the Dragons and ROS, the distance is really that gap in favor of the Dragons. ROS doesn't really stand a chance against them but it's a good experience for them to face such a monster team in the quarterfinals.

Not much of an experience though since it is only 1 game. I believe they are already eliminated since the Dragons have a twice-to-beat advantage.

They had already faced before the elimination, and the outcome was still the same. In short, they have not learned from their experience, or maybe the Dragons are just too good for the ROS, this team have to evaluate their roster and make a huge improvement next season.

They don't have the talent to match with the visiting team, the same outcome from the last game that they've got during elimination. RoS can't stand the heavy dominance of Bay Area, I'm excited now since SMB is one game away to move forward and they will be facing the visiting team, with Fajardo and Romeo and the rest of talents of SMB for sure it won't be a blowout for the visiting team.

They are against the defending champ and knowing how the team plays together, they are classified as a powerhouse team in this league.

Though before they can move forward, SMB still needs another win against the young but impressive Converge, unpredictable but the bookies give SMB as heavy favorite here.

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Quote from: Sanitough on December 10, 2022, 01:21:34 AM

By the way, don't forget to watch the games today.

We have Northport vs Ginebra ( do or die for NP)
SMB vs Converge ( do or die for Converge)

It's a must win for the underdog here, but honestly, I don't trust them winning against these two giants, maybe the best they can do is to make it a close game, because last time they were dominated completely.

I also think that this would be the end of both series tonight but i have doubt on the first game that it will be a blowout, maybe Ginebra Kings will win but with a thin spread so I will shy away from that game.

I'll only bet on the second game as SMB Beermen have the edge on all departments now that Junemar Fajardo is back.

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By the way, don't forget to watch the games today.

We have Northport vs Ginebra ( do or die for NP)
SMB vs Converge ( do or die for Converge)

It's a must win for the underdog here, but honestly, I don't trust them winning against these two giants, maybe the best they can do is to make it a close game, because last time they were dominated completely.

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Quote from: jakelyson on December 09, 2022, 06:27:07 PM

Quote from: harizen on December 09, 2022, 06:08:12 PM

Although comparing the overall player ratings between the Dragons and ROS, the distance is really that gap in favor of the Dragons. ROS doesn't really stand a chance against them but it's a good experience for them to face such a monster team in the quarterfinals.

Not much of an experience though since it is only 1 game. I believe they are already eliminated since the Dragons have a twice-to-beat advantage.

They had already faced before the elimination, and the outcome was still the same. In short, they have not learned from their experience, or maybe the Dragons are just too good for the ROS, this team have to evaluate their roster and make a huge improvement next season.

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Quote from: Hypnosis00 on December 08, 2022, 09:53:51 PM

It's a must-win by the ROS, so might as well try to back them because the spread is too high. Coach Yeng will have his pride at stake here, he cannot just say that the Bay Area Dragons are so good and they cannot do anything to be competitive as that will only be a lame excuse.

Even Phil Jackson will coach the Rain Or Shine, a clear mismatch against the Bay Area Dragons.

The Dragons are also being favored by the league. They have a replacement import right away and they are the only team who has that.

If let's say ROS Import suffered an injury, for sure they will play without a replacement import. But these dominant Dragons are being allowed to replace imports right away when Powell commits an injury during their team practice.

Technically speaking, ROS can't upset the Dragons but I just don't like the special treatment given to the latter.

Quite unfair but it is what it is. I thought that since Powell is injured, they will play without import since they should be stuck with Powell right now. But they instantly place Nicholson in replacement of Powell. If the Bay Area Dragon played without import, there is a little chance that the handicapped is not covered by the Dragons.

Quote from: harizen on December 09, 2022, 06:08:12 PM

I think what the user meant is the availability right away of the replacement import. It means Bay Area Dragons has 2 established imports from the beginning. It is different from the usual replacement of imports where teams should only have 1 import. Bay Area Dragons got an advantage to that by having 2 imports.

Blankley alone is doing too much damage in the offense. And they still have a giant and an import that could do damage inside the paint. The gap is really wide between these two teams.

Quote from: harizen on December 09, 2022, 06:08:12 PM

Although comparing the overall player ratings between the Dragons and ROS, the distance is really that gap in favor of the Dragons. ROS doesn't really stand a chance against them but it's a good experience for them to face such a monster team in the quarterfinals.

Not much of an experience though since it is only 1 game. I believe they are already eliminated since the Dragons have a twice-to-beat advantage.

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Quote from: crzy on December 09, 2022, 04:59:07 PM

Quote from: chaser15 on December 09, 2022, 04:54:11 PM

Quote from: Hypnosis00 on December 08, 2022, 09:53:51 PM

It's a must-win by the ROS, so might as well try to back them because the spread is too high. Coach Yeng will have his pride at stake here, he cannot just say that the Bay Area Dragons are so good and they cannot do anything to be competitive as that will only be a lame excuse.

Even Phil Jackson will coach the Rain Or Shine, a clear mismatch against the Bay Area Dragons.

The Dragons are also being favored by the league. They have a replacement import right away and they are the only team who has that.

SMB also replaced their import so there should be no issue about this one and just focus on the fact that Bay area is doing great this conference and they are really ahead compared to ROS. It was huge win for Bay Area, I can’t remember ROS to have a good lead agains Bay Area, that’s a good statement for Bay Area. ROS is up and down this conference, they are not that good and maybe still on the adjustment period.

I think what the user meant is the availability right away of the replacement import. It means Bay Area Dragons has 2 established imports from the beginning. It is different from the usual replacement of imports where teams should only have 1 import. Bay Area Dragons got an advantage to that by having 2 imports.

Although comparing the overall player ratings between the Dragons and ROS, the distance is really that gap in favor of the Dragons. ROS doesn't really stand a chance against them but it's a good experience for them to face such a monster team in the quarterfinals.

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Quote from: chaser15 on December 09, 2022, 04:54:11 PM

Quote from: Hypnosis00 on December 08, 2022, 09:53:51 PM

It's a must-win by the ROS, so might as well try to back them because the spread is too high. Coach Yeng will have his pride at stake here, he cannot just say that the Bay Area Dragons are so good and they cannot do anything to be competitive as that will only be a lame excuse.

Even Phil Jackson will coach the Rain Or Shine, a clear mismatch against the Bay Area Dragons.

The Dragons are also being favored by the league. They have a replacement import right away and they are the only team who has that.

SMB also replaced their import so there should be no issue about this one and just focus on the fact that Bay area is doing great this conference and they are really ahead compared to ROS. It was huge win for Bay Area, I can’t remember ROS to have a good lead agains Bay Area, that’s a good statement for Bay Area. ROS is up and down this conference, they are not that good and maybe still on the adjustment period.

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