2022–23 PBA Commissioner's Cup - page 234.

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Quote from: Natalim on December 02, 2022, 12:08:10 AM

Quote from: Maslate on December 01, 2022, 11:55:56 PM

Quote from: LogitechMouse on December 01, 2022, 09:27:09 PM

I don't know if SMB has the weapons to beat Converge TBH because they are a strong team as well, but let's see how they will play.

I would not question SMB's capability, I think the question would go to Converge. I get it, they are hot currently but comes playoffs time, it's going to be a different story so I'll always back SMB against Converge TBH.

I will agree with you on that one because SMB can't be underestimated in the playoffs since that's their favorite situation in the PBA season. Romeo will undoubtedly bring some energy and with JMF back in the lineup, he will be a big problem inside especially if he will be playing close to 100% soon.

SMB indeed win despite Fajardo and Romeo only played with limited minutes, JMF only contributed 9 points, so different compared to his usual numbers when he is 100% healthy. It's still a big win by SMB although it looks very controversial. Grin

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Romeo playing with limited minutes now but is very efficient already.

He already had 8 points from 3/6 shooting, and SMB is already leading by 20 points so most likely Romeo will have more minutes since he is playing very well. SMB is really different in situations where they badly need a win, so I guess we have a winner already.

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Quote from: Maslate on December 01, 2022, 11:55:56 PM

Quote from: LogitechMouse on December 01, 2022, 09:27:09 PM

I don't know if SMB has the weapons to beat Converge TBH because they are a strong team as well, but let's see how they will play.

I would not question SMB's capability, I think the question would go to Converge. I get it, they are hot currently but comes playoffs time, it's going to be a different story so I'll always back SMB against Converge TBH.

I will agree with you on that one because SMB can't be underestimated in the playoffs since that's their favorite situation in the PBA season. Romeo will undoubtedly bring some energy and with JMF back in the lineup, he will be a big problem inside especially if he will be playing close to 100% soon.

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Quote from: LogitechMouse on December 01, 2022, 09:27:09 PM

I don't know if SMB has the weapons to beat Converge TBH because they are a strong team as well, but let's see how they will play.

I would not question SMB's capability, I think the question would go to Converge. I get it, they are hot currently but comes playoffs time, it's going to be a different story so I'll always back SMB against Converge TBH.

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Quote from: harizen on December 01, 2022, 06:51:12 PM

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We are now in a crucial part of the conference but San Miguel needs win because they lost a lot when June Mar was out. In order to get that wins, they do not need anything that could disrupt their established play by inserting Romeo in the mix. Romeo will not be able to score a lot yet coming from a long vacation in basketball, so it is best he is given the least minutes for now. He can be full-time in the next conference. Not disrespecting Romeo, but it is what the team needs right now.

Much better to activate Romeo in the semis if they can make it. At least in the semis, there are a series of games where Romeo can do some adjustments unlike in a few game series in the Quarterfinals. I understand your point that activating Romeo right now might destroy their current momentum. It's different in Fajardo's case since The Kraken is not a playmaker while Romeo shares the role of some of the key guards of the SMB right now.

And according to some reports, if Romeo will be activated, Coach Leo Austria will remain on the sideline and he will allow his deputy coach George Gallent to take over since according to Coach Leo, he doesn't want to destroy the momentum between Romeo and Gallent. Honestly, it doesn't make sense to me.

Maybe there is a chemistry built between Romeo and Gallent whenever they are practicing. I don't know as well what Coach Leo means with that phrase "destroy the momentum between the two". Well either way, they already got a spot in the playoffs so putting his deputy coach on the driver seat and giving him an opportunity is also good for the team.

With regards to Romeo playing against Meralco, they already secured the 5th spot and will face Meralco regardless of what happen, so I think putting Romeo to the court to play for a few minutes doesn't hurt the team as a whole. They will just let him play a few minutes in preparation for him during the playoffs. Fajardo and Romeo's situation are completely different. I don't know if SMB has the weapons to beat Converge TBH because they are a strong team as well, but let's see how they will play.

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Quote from: jakelyson on December 01, 2022, 12:54:19 PM

We are now in a crucial part of the conference but San Miguel needs win because they lost a lot when June Mar was out. In order to get that wins, they do not need anything that could disrupt their established play by inserting Romeo in the mix. Romeo will not be able to score a lot yet coming from a long vacation in basketball, so it is best he is given the least minutes for now. He can be full-time in the next conference. Not disrespecting Romeo, but it is what the team needs right now.

Much better to activate Romeo in the semis if they can make it. At least in the semis, there are a series of games where Romeo can do some adjustments unlike in a few game series in the Quarterfinals. I understand your point that activating Romeo right now might destroy their current momentum. It's different in Fajardo's case since The Kraken is not a playmaker while Romeo shares the role of some of the key guards of the SMB right now.

And according to some reports, if Romeo will be activated, Coach Leo Austria will remain on the sideline and he will allow his deputy coach George Gallent to take over since according to Coach Leo, he doesn't want to destroy the momentum between Romeo and Gallent. Honestly, it doesn't make sense to me.

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Quote from: Ziskinberg on December 01, 2022, 08:42:49 AM

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Good to watch.

Romeo to make season debut for Beermen in match vs Bolts

What do you think will be his impact on the team, is it going to be a positive one or a negative one?
Please state your reasons.

Like other players who just came back after an injury, I expect nothing from him.

I'm not expecting him to score 20 points or more on his comeback. He will be given less minutes like what they did to Fajardo after his injury. Take note that Romeo didn't play for a very long time so let's not expect too much on his return. TBH, I'm leaning towards the negative one. He didn't play for quite some time, and it might affect the chemistry, but overall, it's good to see him coming back after the injury. Not expecting too much from him on his comeback and he might get 10 points at most.

Definitely correct, we can't expect too much from him and probably he might not be the starting player as he still need to familiarize himself with their current system. Eventually, if the progress is good we might see the old Romeo and this might be another deadly line up for SMB. For now, SMB needs to find their perfect combination especially with their first six, they should not rely too much from Romeo yet.

As long as Romeo is playing it will certainly excite us to watch him. It's his debut, so you are right, nothing to expect but I'm pretty sure the management will not play him if he is not ready, so it's a mix prediction, maybe he will have a big night, or maybe he will struggle, but what's more important is that SMB will beat Meralco.

This is a crucial game for them and yes they have to beat Meralco and probably SMB is expecting a help from Romeo though for sure he will play with lesser minute in the court because he is still not 100%. As a fan of Romeo before, its good to see him back and its always good to see injured players rise again and play their sports again. With this, planning to have some bet with SMB if the odds is good.

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Quote from: Ziskinberg on December 01, 2022, 08:42:49 AM

Quote from: Johnyz on December 01, 2022, 08:34:28 AM

Quote from: LogitechMouse on December 01, 2022, 06:55:39 AM

Quote from: Botnake on December 01, 2022, 04:42:08 AM

Good to watch.

Romeo to make season debut for Beermen in match vs Bolts

What do you think will be his impact on the team, is it going to be a positive one or a negative one?
Please state your reasons.

Like other players who just came back after an injury, I expect nothing from him.

I'm not expecting him to score 20 points or more on his comeback. He will be given less minutes like what they did to Fajardo after his injury. Take note that Romeo didn't play for a very long time so let's not expect too much on his return. TBH, I'm leaning towards the negative one. He didn't play for quite some time, and it might affect the chemistry, but overall, it's good to see him coming back after the injury. Not expecting too much from him on his comeback and he might get 10 points at most.

Definitely correct, we can't expect too much from him and probably he might not be the starting player as he still need to familiarize himself with their current system. Eventually, if the progress is good we might see the old Romeo and this might be another deadly line up for SMB. For now, SMB needs to find their perfect combination especially with their first six, they should not rely too much from Romeo yet.

As long as Romeo is playing it will certainly excite us to watch him. It's his debut, so you are right, nothing to expect but I'm pretty sure the management will not play him if he is not ready, so it's a mix prediction, maybe he will have a big night, or maybe he will struggle, but what's more important is that SMB will beat Meralco.

It is interesting since both teams are aiming to win, Romeo's debut will add the fun to the fans especially for us who loves seeing him playing alongside with his teammates, nothing can predict if how impacting his debut for the team, I like to point also that long absence inside the court may affect his judgement, but on the other side, he was clear by the doctors and beside that, even he is on the injury list he still watching or participating with the team practice.

He still has that knowledge with the system that they will be using. I just like to see him playing whether he will perform the same or if there's a big difference since he came from an injury and with those dramas in his personal life.

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Quote from: Botnake on December 01, 2022, 04:42:08 AM

Good to watch.

Romeo to make season debut for Beermen in match vs Bolts

What do you think will be his impact on the team, is it going to be a positive one or a negative one?
Please state your reasons.

Romeo will disrupt the chemistry that San Miguel has right now. Romeo did not play for a long time, and if he starts playing now, he will be disrupting the chemistry San Miguel has.

Romeo's play has a lot of iso / hero ball which destroy the rotation of the ball. Maybe, they can play him for a few minutes first, to get the rust he accumulated on the sideline. That will give his teammates chance to get to upspeed on how he play and also give Romeo a chance to feel the game before the gets a lot of minutes again.

We are now in a crucial part of the conference but San Miguel needs win because they lost a lot when June Mar was out. In order to get that wins, they do not need anything that could disrupt their established play by inserting Romeo in the mix. Romeo will not be able to score a lot yet coming from a long vacation in basketball, so it is best he is given the least minutes for now. He can be full-time in the next conference. Not disrespecting Romeo, but it is what the team needs right now.

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Quote from: Ziskinberg on December 01, 2022, 08:42:49 AM

Quote from: Johnyz on December 01, 2022, 08:34:28 AM

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Quote from: Botnake on December 01, 2022, 04:42:08 AM

Good to watch.

Romeo to make season debut for Beermen in match vs Bolts

What do you think will be his impact on the team, is it going to be a positive one or a negative one?
Please state your reasons.

Like other players who just came back after an injury, I expect nothing from him.

I'm not expecting him to score 20 points or more on his comeback. He will be given less minutes like what they did to Fajardo after his injury. Take note that Romeo didn't play for a very long time so let's not expect too much on his return. TBH, I'm leaning towards the negative one. He didn't play for quite some time, and it might affect the chemistry, but overall, it's good to see him coming back after the injury. Not expecting too much from him on his comeback and he might get 10 points at most.

Definitely correct, we can't expect too much from him and probably he might not be the starting player as he still need to familiarize himself with their current system. Eventually, if the progress is good we might see the old Romeo and this might be another deadly line up for SMB. For now, SMB needs to find their perfect combination especially with their first six, they should not rely too much from Romeo yet.

As long as Romeo is playing it will certainly excite us to watch him. It's his debut, so you are right, nothing to expect but I'm pretty sure the management will not play him if he is not ready, so it's a mix prediction, maybe he will have a big night, or maybe he will struggle, but what's more important is that SMB will beat Meralco.

In practical life, all we can say is that Romeo given lesser time before and that 20 big points for sure he can not make that happen as we all knoww that there are many pro players that suites his position and make the team better and for now yes you are right maybe Romeo can't not shine for this match but the main thing here is that how SMB win against meralco cause we all know that meralco nowadays is very competitive and they have a good line up as well.

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Quote from: Johnyz on December 01, 2022, 08:34:28 AM

Quote from: LogitechMouse on December 01, 2022, 06:55:39 AM

Quote from: Botnake on December 01, 2022, 04:42:08 AM

Good to watch.

Romeo to make season debut for Beermen in match vs Bolts

What do you think will be his impact on the team, is it going to be a positive one or a negative one?
Please state your reasons.

Like other players who just came back after an injury, I expect nothing from him.

I'm not expecting him to score 20 points or more on his comeback. He will be given less minutes like what they did to Fajardo after his injury. Take note that Romeo didn't play for a very long time so let's not expect too much on his return. TBH, I'm leaning towards the negative one. He didn't play for quite some time, and it might affect the chemistry, but overall, it's good to see him coming back after the injury. Not expecting too much from him on his comeback and he might get 10 points at most.

Definitely correct, we can't expect too much from him and probably he might not be the starting player as he still need to familiarize himself with their current system. Eventually, if the progress is good we might see the old Romeo and this might be another deadly line up for SMB. For now, SMB needs to find their perfect combination especially with their first six, they should not rely too much from Romeo yet.

As long as Romeo is playing it will certainly excite us to watch him. It's his debut, so you are right, nothing to expect but I'm pretty sure the management will not play him if he is not ready, so it's a mix prediction, maybe he will have a big night, or maybe he will struggle, but what's more important is that SMB will beat Meralco.

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Quote from: LogitechMouse on December 01, 2022, 06:55:39 AM

Quote from: Botnake on December 01, 2022, 04:42:08 AM

Good to watch.

Romeo to make season debut for Beermen in match vs Bolts

What do you think will be his impact on the team, is it going to be a positive one or a negative one?
Please state your reasons.

Like other players who just came back after an injury, I expect nothing from him.

I'm not expecting him to score 20 points or more on his comeback. He will be given less minutes like what they did to Fajardo after his injury. Take note that Romeo didn't play for a very long time so let's not expect too much on his return. TBH, I'm leaning towards the negative one. He didn't play for quite some time, and it might affect the chemistry, but overall, it's good to see him coming back after the injury. Not expecting too much from him on his comeback and he might get 10 points at most.

Definitely correct, we can't expect too much from him and probably he might not be the starting player as he still need to familiarize himself with their current system. Eventually, if the progress is good we might see the old Romeo and this might be another deadly line up for SMB. For now, SMB needs to find their perfect combination especially with their first six, they should not rely too much from Romeo yet.

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Quote from: Botnake on December 01, 2022, 04:42:08 AM

Good to watch.

Romeo to make season debut for Beermen in match vs Bolts

What do you think will be his impact on the team, is it going to be a positive one or a negative one?
Please state your reasons.

Like other players who just came back after an injury, I expect nothing from him.

I'm not expecting him to score 20 points or more on his comeback. He will be given less minutes like what they did to Fajardo after his injury. Take note that Romeo didn't play for a very long time so let's not expect too much on his return. TBH, I'm leaning towards the negative one. He didn't play for quite some time, and it might affect the chemistry, but overall, it's good to see him coming back after the injury. Not expecting too much from him on his comeback and he might get 10 points at most.

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Good to watch.

Romeo to make season debut for Beermen in match vs Bolts

What do you think will be his impact on the team, is it going to be a positive one or a negative one?
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Quote from: bisdak40 on November 30, 2022, 06:51:09 AM

Quote from: Kelvinid on November 30, 2022, 05:53:55 AM

Ginebra starting to fall away, leading by double digits now and they are already in their quarters which are the 3rd and 4th. I'm guessing, Ginebra is going to win with a huge margin as they will not give Converge a chance to rally.

A blow-out win by the Kings, far from expected but it's okay, at least my bet won hehe.

Converge never lead in a single quarter, seems that they are preparing to meet the Beermen for that best-of-three quarterfinals starting next week if i'm not wrong.

With that win, Ginebra has a shot to get that twice to beat advantage, but their fate is on the hands of Rain or Shine if they will defeat Magnolia on the 2nd of December. Rain or Shine's game against the Magnolia is also important for ROS because if they will lose, they will be eliminated on the 8th spot and the NLEX will get it because NLEX defeated ROS in the elimination. A must win for the ROS in order to get the spot.

On the other hand, Converge will get the 4th spot and will face the San Miguel Beermen on a best of 3 series. I'm not surprised that this will end like this though I expect a more close match but nevertheless, congratulations to the Ginebra for getting their win. Now they will just wait on the ROS-Magnolia match-up.

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Quote from: bisdak40 on November 30, 2022, 06:51:09 AM

Quote from: Kelvinid on November 30, 2022, 05:53:55 AM

Ginebra starting to fall away, leading by double digits now and they are already in their quarters which are the 3rd and 4th. I'm guessing, Ginebra is going to win with a huge margin as they will not give Converge a chance to rally.

A blow-out win by the Kings, far from expected but it's okay, at least my bet won hehe.

Converge never lead in a single quarter, seems that they are preparing to meet the Beermen for that best-of-three quarterfinals starting next week if i'm not wrong.

It was indeed a blowout win, Ginebra is very serious in that game as it's a very important game. I'm thinking maybe they are preparing for the playoffs and they want to bring that intensity high. Maybe if they'll face the Bay Area Dragons, that would give them a very tough opponent, and though Bay Area are the favorite but it's not going to be easy beating the Ginebra Gin Kings.

Judging by the stats, it was a complete effort and everyone were able to contribution.

Brownlee just scored 25 points, that's only below his average but it's a very great playing night for everyone in Ginebra uniform.

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Quote from: Kelvinid on November 30, 2022, 05:53:55 AM

Ginebra starting to fall away, leading by double digits now and they are already in their quarters which are the 3rd and 4th. I'm guessing, Ginebra is going to win with a huge margin as they will not give Converge a chance to rally.

A blow-out win by the Kings, far from expected but it's okay, at least my bet won hehe.

Converge never lead in a single quarter, seems that they are preparing to meet the Beermen for that best-of-three quarterfinals starting next week if i'm not wrong.

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Ginebra starting to fall away, leading by double digits now and they are already in their quarters which are the 3rd and 4th. I'm guessing, Ginebra is going to win with a huge margin as they will not give Converge a chance to rally.

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Meralco is ahead by double digits now. 61-49 is the score, looks like they'll win this game as they need to since it's just an easy opponent for them.

McDaniels with 16 points and Black with 17 points, what a good start for Black, so far, he is the best player among the local.
Get that live betting guys if you haven't done it yet.

It's still too early to conclude, not anymore a double-digit now. Remember that NLEX came from a big win against Ginebra, so they have the momentum now and they'll play harder to beat any team they'll face, no pressure for them as they are already eliminated if I'm not mistaken.

It's really too early because NLEX won the game, haha.... That double-digit lead by Meralco melted, just like their previous game and in the end, it was the NLEX who won by double-digit. For bettors, here's the final score. 81-92 in favor of NLEX.

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Quote from: bisdak40 on November 29, 2022, 04:19:42 PM

We've got one interesting game today that for me is worth my bet.

Converge vs Ginebra, this is a battle for the third place while the loser will face SMB Beermen in the quarters for a best-of-three series. I do think that Ginebra will do its best tonight to win for them to avoid facing their sister team so I'm gonna bet for them.

Ginebra ML @1.51 boosted vs Converge, I didn't take the bet with the spread as I think this will be a close game.

Good luck to us.

odd is already decent since we really can't underestimate converge they are really playing competitively and the chance of this game to end with a close gap is very possible, -4.5 handicap is a tough call unless you are really aiming for a bigger odd and you are willing to take that risk, both teams are in need of this win a deciding position for the upcoming next round.

I think coach Tim will do everything to guide his squad and win this game for the fans.

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