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Quote from: Fredomago on October 29, 2022, 09:26:35 AM

I'm just imagining what if Converge and Bay Area will play for the finals, a first time we will not see either SMC and MVP battling for the title, it's been a quite a while that both franchise dominated the league, they are just exchanging teams but the end point the trophy will be displaced Either in Manny P.'s board room or inside Ramon Ang board room.

If ever Converge surprise us, it will be a good timing for PBA to gain additional interest, though for sure if business wise, PBA will
still rely on the never say die team, it will bring huge numbers of fans and a sure bag of ticket sales.

I am sure if Converge and Bay Area Dragons will be on the finals, the viewership will take a big hit. These teams do not have loyal followers like Ginebra or big fans like San Miguel, TNT, or Magnolia. PBA fans are already dwindling and if these two teams are going to the finals, we will see lesser viewers.

PBA became stale because we always see the same team from two companies getting in the finals, but they do draw crowds. Maybe it could be better if one team were from an independent team and another from either SMC or MVP teams. Just to stir things up. Maybe this year we will see this with Bay Area Dragons proving to be a strong guest team. Maybe dragons vs one of the team from MVP or SMC.

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Just an ordinary day in the PBA where upset happens. Well, converge is a good team in this conference, so there's a surprise that they win against a good team. I don't know what's the betting spread on that game but I believe TNT is the heavy favorite, so those who bet on converge are lucky to get the odds.

Might be an ordinary day for you to see an upset but that's not the point there, mate.

You have to give credits that Converge was able to put a big lead of as much as 30 points and that was the impressive part of that game as we are talking about competing against TNT here which is known for being deadly in the eliminations whatever the conference is.

Converge is really a promising team since they entered the league. I hope someday they will be seen in Semis or Finals.

Many fans would possibly be surprised if Converge could ever make it to Semis or even in finals since this league has been much well dominated if not by MVP group or SMB. We need to see new teams to reach that far because the excitement is not so good if we can see those sister teams battling together since we can get scripted win or lose match up on the series. For sure fans want to see some good changes on the league and maybe they can start with replacing the commissioner.

I'm just imagining what if Converge and Bay Area will play for the finals, a first time we will not see either SMC and MVP battling for the title, it's been a quite a while that both franchise dominated the league, they are just exchanging teams but the end point the trophy will be displaced Either in Manny P.'s board room or inside Ramon Ang board room.

If ever Converge surprise us, it will be a good timing for PBA to gain additional interest, though for sure if business wise, PBA will
still rely on the never say die team, it will bring huge numbers of fans and a sure bag of ticket sales.

Even before I'm vocal that someday, we might see a non MVP or SMC teams that will play on the PBA Finals.

But we have to remember that even those top teams in the PBA experienced an upset in the elimination round, their gameplay always improved during the playoffs and that's because of their experience.

I want to see Converge on the Finals but that's really a tough job to do.

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Just an ordinary day in the PBA where upset happens. Well, converge is a good team in this conference, so there's a surprise that they win against a good team. I don't know what's the betting spread on that game but I believe TNT is the heavy favorite, so those who bet on converge are lucky to get the odds.

Might be an ordinary day for you to see an upset but that's not the point there, mate.

You have to give credits that Converge was able to put a big lead of as much as 30 points and that was the impressive part of that game as we are talking about competing against TNT here which is known for being deadly in the eliminations whatever the conference is.

Converge is really a promising team since they entered the league. I hope someday they will be seen in Semis or Finals.

Many fans would possibly be surprised if Converge could ever make it to Semis or even in finals since this league has been much well dominated if not by MVP group or SMB. We need to see new teams to reach that far because the excitement is not so good if we can see those sister teams battling together since we can get scripted win or lose match up on the series. For sure fans want to see some good changes on the league and maybe they can start with replacing the commissioner.

I'm just imagining what if Converge and Bay Area will play for the finals, a first time we will not see either SMC and MVP battling for the title, it's been a quite a while that both franchise dominated the league, they are just exchanging teams but the end point the trophy will be displaced Either in Manny P.'s board room or inside Ramon Ang board room.

If ever Converge surprise us, it will be a good timing for PBA to gain additional interest, though for sure if business wise, PBA will
still rely on the never say die team, it will bring huge numbers of fans and a sure bag of ticket sales.

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I thought there's a game tonight because it's Saturday, but when I see the schedule I'm surprised that the game is only tomorrow.

We have converge vs Bossing and TNT vs Phoenix in the 2nd game.
I like the 2nd game, the streaking Phoenix vs a good team like the TNT, what team will win here?

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Quote from: Kelvinid on October 28, 2022, 06:46:35 AM

Just an ordinary day in the PBA where upset happens. Well, converge is a good team in this conference, so there's a surprise that they win against a good team. I don't know what's the betting spread on that game but I believe TNT is the heavy favorite, so those who bet on converge are lucky to get the odds.

Might be an ordinary day for you to see an upset but that's not the point there, mate.

You have to give credits that Converge was able to put a big lead of as much as 30 points and that was the impressive part of that game as we are talking about competing against TNT here which is known for being deadly in the eliminations whatever the conference is.

Converge is really a promising team since they entered the league. I hope someday they will be seen in Semis or Finals.

Many fans would possibly be surprised if Converge could ever make it to Semis or even in finals since this league has been much well dominated if not by MVP group or SMB. We need to see new teams to reach that far because the excitement is not so good if we can see those sister teams battling together since we can get scripted win or lose match up on the series. For sure fans want to see some good changes on the league and maybe they can start with replacing the commissioner.

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Quote from: Scripture on October 28, 2022, 06:55:42 AM

Quote from: Shamm on October 28, 2022, 06:28:22 AM

Converge vs TNT is over and I am surprise how converge manage their lead and also from the 2nd quarter to 3rd quarter they are leading with 20 to 30 points which is pretty good with the team and in 4rth quarter I thought TNT will gonna getting closer but converge still manage and end the game with 130 points which is 13 points lead against TNT got only 117 points.

Didn’t expect this to be a high scoring game honestly, I’m surprise as well on how Converge manage to have that lead against TNT. Converge is indeed one of the contender for this conference. Being on the top 3 spot can already give a good assurance to proceed on the next round, I like how this team work their plays.

When I saw the lead at the 2nd quarter, I was shocked as well, but upset happens.

TBH, I didn't expect Converge to play like this on their 2nd season in the league. Seems like changing their coach was a good one. Also, their import is playing very well and also include how many minutes he is playing. He is averaging a double-double and he is playing at around 40-43 minutes on average and that's shows that his stamina is high.

They are at the top 3 right now, but the question is they can maintain it. Their next games are still hard because 3 of the 6 are the top 8 teams currently while the other 3 is against the bottom teams. I just saw Blackwater last Philippine Cup coming from around top 4 standing and ended up at the top 8 so there might be a chance that they might fall if they will not play well in their next games. Let's see, but it's good to see independent teams fighting against the 2 giant companies of MVP and SMC.

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Converge vs TNT is over and I am surprise how converge manage their lead and also from the 2nd quarter to 3rd quarter they are leading with 20 to 30 points which is pretty good with the team and in 4rth quarter I thought TNT will gonna getting closer but converge still manage and end the game with 130 points which is 13 points lead against TNT got only 117 points.

Didn’t expect this to be a high scoring game honestly, I’m surprise as well on how Converge manage to have that lead against TNT. Converge is indeed one of the contender for this conference. Being on the top 3 spot can already give a good assurance to proceed on the next round, I like how this team work their plays.

That's because of their import, Miller is probably the best import IMO, and that's making their locals to be confident as well. Being the number 3 in the standing and had won 3 consecutive games already, I think their chances in the playoffs is quite legit. This is the type of import that could carry a team.

Exactly mate you are right miller can do more plays to boost his teammates and this is the example of the best import in PBA which is he can carry his team also. And when miller is in the court as we all know and see that the local players are also hyper and active which is pretty good in offence and defense also their accuracy in shooting while doing a play I think they reach the max level that can beat tough team's in PBA.

The import of TNT also had a huge production, he scored 41 points and grab 11 rebounds but I think that does not help the team because we know that TNT is a team that loves to contribute their offense, if their import are carrying the majority of the load, then most probably others will not be able to play their usual game.

I think it's better if the locals of TNT will also get more touches on the ball, I mean good ball movement would make the team better.

I agree with that, TNT's locals are also good offensively if the import will carry all the loads, the production of their locals will surely affected, I just noticed earlier that's Teng even with that bad form of shooting heats up and help their import to lead this game, I was in the impression that TNT will manage to rally back after they cut that big lead in the last few minutes of the 4th quarter.

But it was Teng who step up and earn the best player of the game, it was a good try for TNT but it didn't earn them the win.

Tnt locals have good teamwork and pass the ball which is it's a big help for the team when the ball movement is in there and not the only one who handles the ball. In short, TNT nowadays doesn't have chemistry with their import and as we all know that 1 player can not carry his team alone if he is not passing to another player, also we all know how locals players play they are accurate in shooting outside and inside and this is conference they need more chemistry and know each other ability.

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Quote from: Kelvinid on October 28, 2022, 06:46:35 AM

Just an ordinary day in the PBA where upset happens. Well, converge is a good team in this conference, so there's a surprise that they win against a good team. I don't know what's the betting spread on that game but I believe TNT is the heavy favorite, so those who bet on converge are lucky to get the odds.

Might be an ordinary day for you to see an upset but that's not the point there, mate.

You have to give credits that Converge was able to put a big lead of as much as 30 points and that was the impressive part of that game as we are talking about competing against TNT here which is known for being deadly in the eliminations whatever the conference is.

Converge is really a promising team since they entered the league. I hope someday they will be seen in Semis or Finals.

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I'm quite surprised that Meralco didn't do well at this conference, they are now dwelling at the bottom of the standings which i think not the place for them if they have a quality import.

They will have a game today against SMB Beermen which i think a must win situation for them if they want to secure a slot in the playoffs in the coming weeks but parading a new import could also pose a problem for them as their new import who just arrived Friday need to jell well to have a good chemistry with the team.

Bolts ML @2.10 vs SMB Beermen, i think the Bolts could pull an upset here if the import will play well against an inconsistent Beermen. Risky bet for me but I don't trust the Beermen without Fajardo manning the middle.

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Quote from: Questat on October 28, 2022, 09:28:15 AM

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Converge vs TNT is over and I am surprise how converge manage their lead and also from the 2nd quarter to 3rd quarter they are leading with 20 to 30 points which is pretty good with the team and in 4rth quarter I thought TNT will gonna getting closer but converge still manage and end the game with 130 points which is 13 points lead against TNT got only 117 points.

Didn’t expect this to be a high scoring game honestly, I’m surprise as well on how Converge manage to have that lead against TNT. Converge is indeed one of the contender for this conference. Being on the top 3 spot can already give a good assurance to proceed on the next round, I like how this team work their plays.

That's because of their import, Miller is probably the best import IMO, and that's making their locals to be confident as well. Being the number 3 in the standing and had won 3 consecutive games already, I think their chances in the playoffs is quite legit. This is the type of import that could carry a team.

Exactly mate you are right miller can do more plays to boost his teammates and this is the example of the best import in PBA which is he can carry his team also. And when miller is in the court as we all know and see that the local players are also hyper and active which is pretty good in offence and defense also their accuracy in shooting while doing a play I think they reach the max level that can beat tough team's in PBA.

The import of TNT also had a huge production, he scored 41 points and grab 11 rebounds but I think that does not help the team because we know that TNT is a team that loves to contribute their offense, if their import are carrying majority of the load, then most probably others will not be able to play their usual game.

I think it's better if the locals of TNT will also get more touches on the ball, I mean good ball movement would make the team better.

I agree to that, TNT's locals are also good offensively if the import will carry all the loads, the productions of their locals will surely affected, I just noticed earlier that's Teng even with that bad form of shooting really heat up and help their import to lead this game, I was in the impression that TNT will manage to rally back after they cut that big lead in the last few minutes of the 4th quarter.

But it was Teng who really step up and earn the best player of the game, it was a good try for TNT but it didn't earn them the win.

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Converge vs TNT is over and I am surprise how converge manage their lead and also from the 2nd quarter to 3rd quarter they are leading with 20 to 30 points which is pretty good with the team and in 4rth quarter I thought TNT will gonna getting closer but converge still manage and end the game with 130 points which is 13 points lead against TNT got only 117 points.

Didn’t expect this to be a high scoring game honestly, I’m surprise as well on how Converge manage to have that lead against TNT. Converge is indeed one of the contender for this conference. Being on the top 3 spot can already give a good assurance to proceed on the next round, I like how this team work their plays.

That's because of their import, Miller is probably the best import IMO, and that's making their locals to be confident as well. Being the number 3 in the standing and had won 3 consecutive games already, I think their chances in the playoffs is quite legit. This is the type of import that could carry a team.

Exactly mate you are right miller can do more plays to boost his teammates and this is the example of the best import in PBA which is he can carry his team also. And when miller is in the court as we all know and see that the local players are also hyper and active which is pretty good in offence and defense also their accuracy in shooting while doing a play I think they reach the max level that can beat tough team's in PBA.

The import of TNT also had a huge production, he scored 41 points and grab 11 rebounds but I think that does not help the team because we know that TNT is a team that loves to contribute their offense, if their import are carrying majority of the load, then most probably others will not be able to play their usual game.

I think it's better if the locals of TNT will also get more touches on the ball, I mean good ball movement would make the team better.

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Converge vs TNT is over and I am surprise how converge manage their lead and also from the 2nd quarter to 3rd quarter they are leading with 20 to 30 points which is pretty good with the team and in 4rth quarter I thought TNT will gonna getting closer but converge still manage and end the game with 130 points which is 13 points lead against TNT got only 117 points.

Didn’t expect this to be a high scoring game honestly, I’m surprise as well on how Converge manage to have that lead against TNT. Converge is indeed one of the contender for this conference. Being on the top 3 spot can already give a good assurance to proceed on the next round, I like how this team work their plays.

That's because of their import, Miller is probably the best import IMO, and that's making their locals to be confident as well. Being the number 3 in the standing and had won 3 consecutive games already, I think their chances in the playoffs is quite legit. This is the type of import that could carry a team.

Exactly mate you are right miller can do more plays to boost his teammates and this is the example of the best import in PBA which is he can carry his team also. And when miller is in the court as we all know and see that the local players are also hyper and active which is pretty good in offence and defense also their accuracy in shooting while doing a play I think they reach the max level that can beat tough team's in PBA.

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Converge vs TNT is over and I am surprise how converge manage their lead and also from the 2nd quarter to 3rd quarter they are leading with 20 to 30 points which is pretty good with the team and in 4rth quarter I thought TNT will gonna getting closer but converge still manage and end the game with 130 points which is 13 points lead against TNT got only 117 points.

Didn’t expect this to be a high scoring game honestly, I’m surprise as well on how Converge manage to have that lead against TNT. Converge is indeed one of the contender for this conference. Being on the top 3 spot can already give a good assurance to proceed on the next round, I like how this team work their plays.

That's because of their import, Miller is probably the best import IMO, and that's making their locals to be confident as well. Being the number 3 in the standing and had won 3 consecutive games already, I think their chances in the playoffs is quite legit. This is the type of import that could carry a team.

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Quote from: Scripture on October 28, 2022, 06:55:42 AM

Quote from: Shamm on October 28, 2022, 06:28:22 AM

Converge vs TNT is over and I am surprise how converge manage their lead and also from the 2nd quarter to 3rd quarter they are leading with 20 to 30 points which is pretty good with the team and in 4rth quarter I thought TNT will gonna getting closer but converge still manage and end the game with 130 points which is 13 points lead against TNT got only 117 points.

Didn’t expect this to be a high scoring game honestly, I’m surprise as well on how Converge manage to have that lead against TNT. Converge is indeed one of the contender for this conference. Being on the top 3 spot can already give a good assurance to proceed on the next round, I like how this team work their plays.

Converge is already doing great since the start of this conference, their 2 loss was against the top two team currently on the standing and I think Converge can play more. TNT are quite not organized on this game, their plays are not working and a lot of turn over as well. Converge really dominate this one, kudos to their import as well and to the locals. What's the next game for Converge? It's getting more exciting.

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Quote from: Shamm on October 28, 2022, 06:28:22 AM

Converge vs TNT is over and I am surprise how converge manage their lead and also from the 2nd quarter to 3rd quarter they are leading with 20 to 30 points which is pretty good with the team and in 4rth quarter I thought TNT will gonna getting closer but converge still manage and end the game with 130 points which is 13 points lead against TNT got only 117 points.

Didn’t expect this to be a high scoring game honestly, I’m surprise as well on how Converge manage to have that lead against TNT. Converge is indeed one of the contender for this conference. Being on the top 3 spot can already give a good assurance to proceed on the next round, I like how this team work their plays.

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Quote from: Shamm on October 28, 2022, 06:28:22 AM

Converge vs TNT is over and I am surprise how converge manage their lead and also from the 2nd quarter to 3rd quarter they are leading with 20 to 30 points which is pretty good with the team and in 4rth quarter I thought TNT will gonna getting closer but converge still manage and end the game with 130 points which is 13 points lead against TNT got only 117 points.

Just an ordinary day in the PBA where upset happens. Well, converge is a good team in this conference, so there's a surprise that they win against a good team. I don't know what's the betting spread on that game but I believe TNT is the heavy favorite, so those who bet on converge are lucky to get the odds.

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Converge vs TNT is over and I am surprise how converge manage their lead and also from the 2nd quarter to 3rd quarter they are leading with 20 to 30 points which is pretty good with the team and in 4rth quarter I thought TNT will gonna getting closer but converge still manage and end the game with 130 points which is 13 points lead against TNT got only 117 points.

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Quote from: harizen on October 27, 2022, 09:14:00 AM

They really should. The Beermen are being upset by BlackWater Bossing and Converge XFibers this conference and that is something you can't expect on one of the considered top teams in the league regardless if there's JuneMar Fajardo on board or not or let's say even the ball is round.

Yeah it will be depending on howthe players will perform during the game, being upset of mid-level team is part of the game and they just need to move on and not to dwell with such losses. And , there's no room to put the blame to anyone as they are a team and the overall performance depends to everyone who play that day.

They have a good run last conference but now it looks a little off for them, maybe they got tired nevertheless I agree they should not blame anyone here but start working out as a team and have a good plays. They have their import to rely with, better for them to activate it. They are at 3-3 standing along with the other teams, there's still a high chance for them to enter the next round, let's just see if they are able to adjust going to the next round or they will play the same intensity which I think is not enough if they will face other top teams.

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Quote from: harizen on October 27, 2022, 09:14:00 AM

They really should. The Beermen are being upset by BlackWater Bossing and Converge XFibers this conference and that is something you can't expect on one of the considered top teams in the league regardless if there's JuneMar Fajardo on board or not or let's say even the ball is round.

Yeah it will be depending on howthe players will perform during the game, being upset of mid-level team is part of the game and they just need to move on and not to dwell with such losses. And , there's no room to put the blame to anyone as they are a team and the overall performance depends to everyone who play that day.

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As Vic Manuel said, other big men should step up while Fajardo is sidelined. This is how complete their roster is compared to other teams as they can easily fill up the position of their missing main player that's why if they lose against a mid-team, the reason for Fajardo's absence should not be mentioned.

They are capable because even their third unit are all competitive players who can play the game and possible to win the game, hahaha, kidding aside, the league still far and they are getting better from time to time.

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Besides, looks like their new import Devon Scott is now slowly forming good chemistry with the team. He's now 2-1 playing as an import for SMB.

Yeah, the import is really doing well working with how the team play, and he already adopt the system and now performing with the squad.

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Quote from: Shamm on October 27, 2022, 08:05:23 AM

For the game yesterday it sounds like SMB standup from their big losses, as we can see their stats right now that They have a 50% win ratio with 3 wins, and 3 losses. Which pretty good for them.

They really should. The Beermen are being upset by BlackWater Bossing and Converge XFibers this conference and that is something you can't expect on one of the considered top teams in the league regardless if there's JuneMar Fajardo on board or not or let's say even the ball is round.

As Vic Manuel said, other big men should step up while Fajardo is sidelined. This is how complete their roster is compared to other teams as they can easily fill up the position of their missing main player that's why if they lose against a mid-team, the reason for Fajardo's absence should not be mentioned.

Besides, looks like their new import Devon Scott is now slowly forming good chemistry with the team. He's now 2-1 playing as an import for SMB.

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