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Quote from: jakelyson on August 29, 2022, 04:55:52 AM

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There’s no doubt about the performance of TNT in game 4, in almost field they work great and with SMB struggling with their passes and offense, the result is too bad for them. The series is tied what we can expect next is both team will surely want to take the lead and only those who work hard and execute their strategy well will surely win, fixing game is not real in a series like this, and let’s see who will take the game 5 because right now it’s really hard to predict.

SMB should fix that problem. Also, the one where June Mar is trapped inside, and the ball is getting stolen by smaller guards. It is their time to adjust now because TNT seems to find that sweet spot where they can defend the onslaught of June Mar. They also should limit their turnovers. TNT was able to convert 15 pts from turnovers. They also have 17 points from the fast break. I think we will see big adjustments from the side of San Miguel to address that problem coming from TNT.

SMB has a good coaching staff and most probably they saw that problem that occur on their last game, they will adjust accordingly. With TNT, for sure they will continue to play that good strategy and have neck and neck fight with SMB, game 5 can be more thrilling and I can see a point of 200+ again in the game 5. This is a high scoring game with great team, who ever take the lead for sure will have more confident getting into game 6, for now let's focus on the odds first for the game 5.

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Quote from: jakelyson on August 29, 2022, 04:55:52 AM

Quote from: samcrypto on August 28, 2022, 04:49:17 PM

There’s no doubt about the performance of TNT in game 4, in almost field they work great and with SMB struggling with their passes and offense, the result is too bad for them. The series is tied what we can expect next is both team will surely want to take the lead and only those who work hard and execute their strategy well will surely win, fixing game is not real in a series like this, and let’s see who will take the game 5 because right now it’s really hard to predict.

SMB should fix that problem. Also, the one where June Mar is trapped inside, and the ball is getting stolen by smaller guards. It is their time to adjust now because TNT seems to find that sweet spot where they can defend the onslaught of June Mar. They also should limit their turnovers. TNT was able to convert 15 pts from turnovers. They also have 17 points from the fast break. I think we will see big adjustments from the side of San Miguel to address that problem coming from TNT.

TNT already scouted their plays and they need to adjust and past the ball to their shooters. They cannot get a good insights with Fajardo because TNT expect that he will shoot inside. They have good piece to use and maybe they should try to give more plays on Perez or maybe rotate the ball until they find vacant player to finish the rim.

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Quote from: samcrypto on August 28, 2022, 04:49:17 PM

There’s no doubt about the performance of TNT in game 4, in almost field they work great and with SMB struggling with their passes and offense, the result is too bad for them. The series is tied what we can expect next is both team will surely want to take the lead and only those who work hard and execute their strategy well will surely win, fixing game is not real in a series like this, and let’s see who will take the game 5 because right now it’s really hard to predict.

SMB should fix that problem. Also, the one where June Mar is trapped inside, and the ball is getting stolen by smaller guards. It is their time to adjust now because TNT seems to find that sweet spot where they can defend the onslaught of June Mar. They also should limit their turnovers. TNT was able to convert 15 pts from turnovers. They also have 17 points from the fast break. I think we will see big adjustments from the side of San Miguel to address that problem coming from TNT.

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Quote from: Fredomago on August 29, 2022, 02:42:02 AM

Quote from: agustina2 on August 28, 2022, 06:46:04 PM

We just have to enjoy watching the Finals and if gambling, trust the game is fair and square.

Expecting also a Game 7 as others want. The series is getting hotter and more intense.

After you place your bet, you need to have that mentality that whatever happened you are into gambling and the outcome is based on how you do your research and how you analyze the possibilities. If you can't accept it, better not to gamble. You will just keep looking for a reason to keep you holding with the outcome that did not favor your bet.

Moving forward, if the series will extend up to game 7, surely it will be more chances for bettors to continue placing their bets and try aiming to win.

SMB fan here so game 7 or not I will be eyeing for the team to win the finals. Good Luck!

Looks like this is destined to reach game 7. I think bettors will bet on SMB next game, but, I would do the opposite, still TNT then SMB for games 6 and 7. That's the kind of pattern I see in this series, hopefully I'm right.

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Quote from: agustina2 on August 28, 2022, 06:46:04 PM

We just have to enjoy watching the Finals and if gambling, trust the game is fair and square.

Expecting also a Game 7 as others want. The series is getting hotter and more intense.

After you place your bet, you need to have that mentality that whatever happened you are into gambling and the outcome is based on how you do your research and how you analyze the possibilities. If you can't accept it, better not to gamble. You will just keep looking for a reason to keep you holding with the outcome that did not favor your bet.

Moving forward, if the series will extend up to game 7, surely it will be more chances for bettors to continue placing their bets and try aiming to win.

SMB fan here so game 7 or not I will be eyeing for the team to win the finals. Good Luck!

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Quote from: Baofeng on August 27, 2022, 10:19:06 PM

Sooner or later it will unravel itself, but we have heard this game fixing in the PBA for many years now and I would say that it could be real or just pure speculation.

Correct, there are just bitter fans that keep pointing out game fixing. Every final, or even right back to the eliminations, there's always speculation of a fixed game but for decades, all were just baseless accusations and nothing proven up to today.

We just have to enjoy watching the Finals and if gambling, trust the game is fair and square.

Expecting also a Game 7 as others want. The series is getting hotter and more intense.

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Quote from: blockman on August 28, 2022, 04:48:32 PM

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Yeah, there's a player that has told that it's real and he was silenced. I don't believe now that there's match-fixing. But I think people have been thinking that there's already a winner every time that we have the finals.
Giga has won again and it's SMB that has to play very well next game this could be like a decider match as it's in the midst of the series already.
If this goes 3-2, SMB will have hard time to cope.

Fixed game can happen to a sister company but in the case of TNT and SMB, they are totally different so let’s not think about this one and just enjoy every game. Just accept the fact that TNT did a great job in game 4 and probably win again to extend the series into a deciding game, we can’t just expect TNT to get lose especially if they also have good players in the floor. Game 5 will be a crucial game for both SMB and TNT, let’s just enjoy our bet for the next game.

They just did a good performance in this game. Well, the series is currently tied and we have to see game 5 as it will be really the game where things are going harder.
As it will be like a match that they need to chase and then the next and the last will be like a pressured game to them if they don't get the lead on this one. But no matter what happens, there will be a lead in the series for game 5.

There’s no doubt about the performance of TNT in game 4, in almost field they work great and with SMB struggling with their passes and offense, the result is too bad for them. The series is tied what we can expect next is both team will surely want to take the lead and only those who work hard and execute their strategy well will surely win, fixing game is not real in a series like this, and let’s see who will take the game 5 because right now it’s really hard to predict.

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Quote from: crzy on August 28, 2022, 04:18:27 PM

Quote from: blockman on August 28, 2022, 04:14:53 PM

Yeah, there's a player that has told that it's real and he was silenced. I don't believe now that there's match-fixing. But I think people have been thinking that there's already a winner every time that we have the finals.
Giga has won again and it's SMB that has to play very well next game this could be like a decider match as it's in the midst of the series already.
If this goes 3-2, SMB will have hard time to cope.

Fixed game can happen to a sister company but in the case of TNT and SMB, they are totally different so let’s not think about this one and just enjoy every game. Just accept the fact that TNT did a great job in game 4 and probably win again to extend the series into a deciding game, we can’t just expect TNT to get lose especially if they also have good players in the floor. Game 5 will be a crucial game for both SMB and TNT, let’s just enjoy our bet for the next game.

They just did a good performance in this game. Well, the series is currently tied and we have to see game 5 as it will be really the game where things are going harder.
As it will be like a match that they need to chase and then the next and the last will be like a pressured game to them if they don't get the lead on this one. But no matter what happens, there will be a lead in the series for game 5.

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Quote from: crzy on August 28, 2022, 04:18:27 PM

Quote from: blockman on August 28, 2022, 04:14:53 PM

Yeah, there's a player that has told that it's real and he was silenced. I don't believe now that there's match-fixing. But I think people have been thinking that there's already a winner every time that we have the finals.
Giga has won again and it's SMB that has to play very well next game this could be like a decider match as it's in the midst of the series already.
If this goes 3-1, SMB will be hard to cope.

Fixed game can happen to a sister company but in the case of TNT and SMB, they are totally different so let’s not think about this one and just enjoy every game. Just accept the fact that TNT did a great job in game 4 and probably win again to extend the series into a deciding game, we can’t just expect TNT to get lose especially if they also have good players in the floor. Game 5 will be a crucial game for both SMB and TNT, let’s just enjoy our bet for the next game.

Let’s not discredit the effort of the players since they put a lot of time for this and both teams really wants to win the game, it’s just that in game 4 SMB if off and TNT is really focus on winning. This rumor has been there for almost a decade now, game fixing is not a thing anymore especially now that you can easily expose it in social media. Game 5 will be more interesting, waiting for the odds as well before I put some bet, it looks like SMB will bounce back on this.

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Quote from: Maslate on August 28, 2022, 06:20:19 AM

Again, Mikey Williams is very inconsistent. Scored 11 points already, but look at his shooting percentage, he is 4-13 only.

Mikey Williams is trying to regain his usual form that's why he is attempting lots of field goals even though he is not red-hot shooting. It's common for key players to do such as part of regaining their confidence. SMB would be in total danger if Mikey will return on his usual. But since they are doing great on defending him, it results in Mikey not getting his usual numbers and averages.

TNT is composed of good guards however to cover Mikey's inconsistencies. There's Pogoy who is doing great since Game 1 and Jayson Castro, although not doing well last game, but a big help in Game 4 why they were able to even the series.

I like the series ending in Game 7 regardless of who will be crowned as an All-Filipino Champion.

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Quote from: blockman on August 28, 2022, 04:14:53 PM

Yeah, there's a player that has told that it's real and he was silenced. I don't believe now that there's match-fixing. But I think people have been thinking that there's already a winner every time that we have the finals.
Giga has won again and it's SMB that has to play very well next game this could be like a decider match as it's in the midst of the series already.
If this goes 3-1, SMB will be hard to cope.

Fixed game can happen to a sister company but in the case of TNT and SMB, they are totally different so let’s not think about this one and just enjoy every game. Just accept the fact that TNT did a great job in game 4 and probably win again to extend the series into a deciding game, we can’t just expect TNT to get lose especially if they also have good players in the floor. Game 5 will be a crucial game for both SMB and TNT, let’s just enjoy our bet for the next game.

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Quote from: Baofeng on August 27, 2022, 10:19:06 PM

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Quote from: Ziskinberg on August 27, 2022, 04:18:51 AM

Game fixing is possible to make this a long series, if TNT wins game 4, the lowest possible games will be in 6 games. I like to believe in game fixing as well, so I'm with you on the prediction that TNT will win. Pogoy, Castro, and Williams, these are the big 3 that should contribute big time if they want to extend the series, because if SMB will win game 4, then this series will be close to being over.

I've also thought of this before, like every other season in the past. But let's take it that both teams really are great and they're playing accordingly.
These match-fixing is no longer a thing in the league and we've seen those players that have been involved with it but eventually those issues have died.

Sooner or later it will unravel itself, but we have heard this game fixing in the PBA for many years now and I would say that it could be real or just pure speculation.

Yes, definitely, they or we also wanted to see an extended series, game 7 all the way.

So another tough and close game I believed in game 4, and I would say that TNT will have to play hard if they want to make it 2-2. But I will still go and bet on the handicap and see how it goes live betting.

Yeah, there's a player that has told that it's real and he was silenced. I don't believe now that there's match-fixing. But I think people have been thinking that there's already a winner every time that we have the finals.
Giga has won again and it's SMB that has to play very well next game this could be like a decider match as it's in the midst of the series already.
If this goes 3-2, SMB will have hard time to cope.

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Quote from: goaldigger on August 28, 2022, 07:27:18 AM

Quote from: Maslate on August 28, 2022, 06:20:19 AM

I'm afraid SMB will have a good 2nd half.

Look at the boxscore. https://pba.ph/playbyplay

Again, Mikey Williams is very inconsistent. Scored 11 points already, but look at his shooting percentage, he is 4-13 only.
So far, POGOY and CASTRO are doing great.

Let's go SMB!

Let's than two minutes not as of posting and TNT stays with a good lead of 13 point. SMB is quiet off as well on this game and yes Pogoy and Castro doing their best to tie the series and probably they will gonna take it. Maybe Fajardo is still in the cloud 9 after winning the best player of the conference, there's no doubt for this. Looking at game 6, most probably SMB will go all out next game, but for now we have to commend TNT players for staying alive and tied the series, this is all for the fans.

Off night for SMB, Cruz is so quiet and I'm not sure why Ross and Cruz didn't play that long or I mean, unlike in game 3, these two guards are playing solid, with Fajardo dominating inside these two are also making damages. Maybe you are right Fajardo still in the cloud 9, though he plays the same Fajardo as how we know him, but the support ain't there for him.

Castro well read the SMB's design offense, he keeps bothering Fajardo, and he made lots of steals.

Congrats TNT, good for everyone who loves betting, the series is now sure to be extend either 6 or 7 games.

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Quote from: Maslate on August 28, 2022, 06:20:19 AM

I'm afraid SMB will have a good 2nd half.

Look at the boxscore. https://pba.ph/playbyplay

Again, Mikey Williams is very inconsistent. Scored 11 points already, but look at his shooting percentage, he is 4-13 only.
So far, POGOY and CASTRO are doing great.

Let's go SMB!

Let's than two minutes not as of posting and TNT stays with a good lead of 13 point. SMB is quiet off as well on this game and yes Pogoy and Castro doing their best to tie the series and probably they will gonna take it. Maybe Fajardo is still in the cloud 9 after winning the best player of the conference, there's no doubt for this. Looking at game 6, most probably SMB will go all out next game, but for now we have to commend TNT players for staying alive and tied the series, this is all for the fans.

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I'm afraid SMB will have a good 2nd half.

Look at the boxscore. https://pba.ph/playbyplay

Again, Mikey Williams is very inconsistent. Scored 11 points already, but look at his shooting percentage, he is 4-13 only.
So far, POGOY and CASTRO are doing great.

Let's go SMB!

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Quote from: Fredomago on August 28, 2022, 05:44:17 AM

Watching game 4 now and Choke Reyes is the headcoach they are up by 15 in the mid of 2nd quarter, Coach Leo unable to match the guards of TNT let see if how they can manage to answer. SMB is trying to match with the small lineup of coach Choke, the dribble drive is very effective if WIlliams and Castro ae both converting.

Good Luck !

It's only 7 now after the second quarter buzzer sounded, so still a dangerous lead for TNT.

Just my observation, when a player from a certain team won the Best Player of the Conference award, often his team will lose the game though not always but the frequency of that from happening is so high, why is that lol.

BTW coach Chot is back and he has not lost a game yet in this finals so TNT will be motivated by that fact and of course we give credit to the guards of TNT who played so well in the first half.

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Halftime score 43-36 in favor of TNT.

It was once a 20 points lead but SMB were able to bring down the lead into a single digit.
The 3rd quarter is very important, SMB needs to play better and have a big run so we will see a great 4th quarter.

2 of the last 3 games, we have a very entertaining 4th quarter, hopefully, we can still it again tonight.

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Quote from: Fredomago on August 28, 2022, 05:44:17 AM

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By the way, coach Chot, the game master, is he now back to TNT ? or he will be more focus with Gilas?

Not sure if I missed any info but he might add some good dribble and drive momentum for his favorite Montalbo.. Tongue

I think he is still out, but his absence is not really a big deal IMO as TNT were able to compete well against SMB in game 3, it's just that their overtime period was very poor and SMB dominated them. Though no Chot Reyes, I think TNT will be alright, they know the game is very important, so a win is a must.

Agree with that, although I must say that TNT has improved under coach Chot, but as what we've seen in game 3, TNT almost win the game if only Castro's last shot went in. They were outcoach in the OT only, but maybe due to the fact that SMB was a bit lucky that time, it's just sad for TNT that they weren't able to capitalize the mistake of SMB as they still end up losing the game.

Watching game 4 now and Choke Reyes is the headcoach they are up by 15 in the mid of 2nd quarter, Coach Leo unable to match the guards of TNT let see if how they can manage to answer. SMB is trying to match with the small lineup of coach Choke, the dribble drive is very effective if WIlliams and Castro ae both converting.

Good Luck !

Great chance for TNT now that Coach Chot is back. Grin

They are up with huge lead already but we know that SMB is a team that does not easily give up. 1st half may be dominated by TNT but they cannot be too complacent in the 2nd half as they know how good the SMB is. Good luck TNT backers, looks like the prediction is right, after this game it will be 2-2.

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Quote from: Japinat on August 28, 2022, 03:38:47 AM

Quote from: Ziskinberg on August 28, 2022, 03:03:18 AM

Quote from: Fredomago on August 28, 2022, 02:52:35 AM

By the way, coach Chot, the game master, is he now back to TNT ? or he will be more focus with Gilas?

Not sure if I missed any info but he might add some good dribble and drive momentum for his favorite Montalbo.. Tongue

I think he is still out, but his absence is not really a big deal IMO as TNT were able to compete well against SMB in game 3, it's just that their overtime period was very poor and SMB dominated them. Though no Chot Reyes, I think TNT will be alright, they know the game is very important, so a win is a must.

Agree with that, although I must say that TNT has improved under coach Chot, but as what we've seen in game 3, TNT almost win the game if only Castro's last shot went in. They were outcoach in the OT only, but maybe due to the fact that SMB was a bit lucky that time, it's just sad for TNT that they weren't able to capitalize the mistake of SMB as they still end up losing the game.

Watching game 4 now and Choke Reyes is the headcoach they are up by 15 in the mid of 2nd quarter, Coach Leo unable to match the guards of TNT let see if how they can manage to answer. SMB is trying to match with the small lineup of coach Choke, the dribble drive is very effective if WIlliams and Castro ae both converting.

Good Luck !

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Quote from: Japinat on August 28, 2022, 03:38:47 AM

Quote from: Ziskinberg on August 28, 2022, 03:03:18 AM

Quote from: Fredomago on August 28, 2022, 02:52:35 AM

By the way, coach Chot, the game master, is he now back to TNT ? or he will be more focus with Gilas?

Not sure if I missed any info but he might add some good dribble and drive momentum for his favorite Montalbo.. Tongue

I think he is still out, but his absence is not really a big deal IMO as TNT were able to compete well against SMB in game 3, it's just that their overtime period was very poor and SMB dominated them. Though no Chot Reyes, I think TNT will be alright, they know the game is very important, so a win is a must.

Agree with that, although I must say that TNT has improved under coach Chot, but as what we've seen in game 3, TNT almost win the game if only Castro's last shot went in. They were outcoach in the OT only, but maybe due to the fact that SMB was a bit lucky that time, it's just sad for TNT that they weren't able to capitalize the mistake of SMB as they still end up losing the game.

As expected, TNT had a great start, if they will continue playing this way, they'll for sure tie the series. I'm also surprised that the first quarter was a low-scoring game, I am not sure if which team would favor this kind of pace.

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