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Quote from: Japinat on August 28, 2022, 03:38:47 AM

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By the way, coach Chot, the game master, is he now back to TNT ? or he will be more focus with Gilas?

Not sure if I missed any info but he might add some good dribble and drive momentum for his favorite Montalbo.. Tongue

I think he is still out, but his absence is not really a big deal IMO as TNT were able to compete well against SMB in game 3, it's just that their overtime period was very poor and SMB dominated them. Though no Chot Reyes, I think TNT will be alright, they know the game is very important, so a win is a must.

Agree with that, although I must say that TNT has improved under coach Chot, but as what we've seen in game 3, TNT almost win the game if only Castro's last shot went in. They were outcoach in the OT only, but maybe due to the fact that SMB was a bit lucky that time, it's just sad for TNT that they weren't able to capitalize the mistake of SMB as they still end up losing the game.

As expected, TNT had a great start, if they will continue playing this way, they'll for sure tie the series. I'm also surprised that the first quarter was a low-scoring game, I am not sure if which team would favor this kind of pace.

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Quote from: Ziskinberg on August 28, 2022, 03:03:18 AM

Quote from: Fredomago on August 28, 2022, 02:52:35 AM

By the way, coach Chot, the game master, is he now back to TNT ? or he will be more focus with Gilas?

Not sure if I missed any info but he might add some good dribble and drive momentum for his favorite Montalbo.. Tongue

I think he is still out, but his absence is not really a big deal IMO as TNT were able to compete well against SMB in game 3, it's just that their overtime period was very poor and SMB dominated them. Though no Chot Reyes, I think TNT will be alright, they know the game is very important, so a win is a must.

Agree with that, although I must say that TNT has improved under coach Chot, but as what we've seen in game 3, TNT almost win the game if only Castro's last shot went in. They were outcoach in the OT only, but maybe due to the fact that SMB was a bit lucky that time, it's just sad for TNT that they weren't able to capitalize the mistake of SMB as they still end up losing the game.

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Quote from: Fredomago on August 28, 2022, 02:52:35 AM

By the way, coach Chot, the game master, is he now back to TNT ? or he will be more focus with Gilas?

Not sure if I missed any info but he might add some good dribble and drive momentum for his favorite Montalbo.. Tongue

I think he is still out, but his absence is not really a big deal IMO as TNT were able to compete well against SMB in game 3, it's just that their overtime period was very poor and SMB dominated them. Though no Chot Reyes, I think TNT will be alright, they know the game is very important, so a win is a must.

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Quote from: Baofeng on August 27, 2022, 10:19:06 PM

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Quote from: Ziskinberg on August 27, 2022, 04:18:51 AM

Game fixing is possible to make this a long series, if TNT wins game 4, the lowest possible games will be in 6 games. I like to believe in game fixing as well, so I'm with you on the prediction that TNT will win. Pogoy, Castro, and Williams, these are the big 3 that should contribute big time if they want to extend the series, because if SMB will win game 4, then this series will be close to being over.

I've also thought of this before, like every other season in the past. But let's take it that both teams really are great and they're playing accordingly.
These match-fixing is no longer a thing in the league and we've seen those players that have been involved with it but eventually those issues have died.

Sooner or later it will unravel itself, but we have heard this game fixing in the PBA for many years now and I would say that it could be real or just pure speculation.

Yes, definitely, they or we also wanted to see an extended series, game 7 all the way.

So another tough and close game I believed in game 4, and I would say that TNT will have to play hard if they want to make it 2-2. But I will still go and bet on the handicap and see how it goes live betting.

TNT need this game or else it would be a difficult situation for them to bounce back and win the title if they are down by two games, 3-1 is not a good series even I'm a fan of SMB but for me personally, I would say that 2-2 is much better and they will be playing hard in game 5 again and bring an entertaining game system to try to win from one another.

By the way, coach Chot, the game master, is he now back to TNT ? or he will be more focus with Gilas?

Not sure if I missed any info but he might add some good dribble and drive momentum for his favorite Montalbo.. Tongue

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Quote from: Baofeng on August 27, 2022, 10:19:06 PM

Yes, definitely, they or we also wanted to see an extended series, game 7 all the way.

That's what I like to see as well.

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So another tough and close game I believed in game 4, and I would say that TNT will have to play hard if they want to make it 2-2. But I will still go and bet on the handicap and see how it goes live betting.

Hopefully TNT will start strong, they need to keep the intensity high, they should be aggressive and make Fajardo in foul trouble if that will happen, Fajarco could only play a limited number of minutes. Also, Williams needs to keep his 3 points falling, that would be a big help to increase the chance.

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Quote from: blockman on August 27, 2022, 04:35:26 PM

Quote from: Ziskinberg on August 27, 2022, 04:18:51 AM

Game fixing is possible to make this a long series, if TNT wins game 4, the lowest possible games will be in 6 games. I like to believe in game fixing as well, so I'm with you on the prediction that TNT will win. Pogoy, Castro, and Williams, these are the big 3 that should contribute big time if they want to extend the series, because if SMB will win game 4, then this series will be close to being over.

I've also thought of this before, like every other season in the past. But let's take it that both teams really are great and they're playing accordingly.
These match-fixing is no longer a thing in the league and we've seen those players that have been involved with it but eventually those issues have died.

Sooner or later it will unravel itself, but we have heard this game fixing in the PBA for many years now and I would say that it could be real or just pure speculation.

Yes, definitely, they or we also wanted to see an extended series, game 7 all the way.

So another tough and close game I believed in game 4, and I would say that TNT will have to play hard if they want to make it 2-2. But I will still go and bet on the handicap and see how it goes live betting.

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Quote from: Ziskinberg on August 27, 2022, 04:18:51 AM

Game fixing is possible to make this a long series, if TNT wins game 4, the lowest possible games will be in 6 games. I like to believe in game fixing as well, so I'm with you on the prediction that TNT will win. Pogoy, Castro, and Williams, these are the big 3 that should contribute big time if they want to extend the series, because if SMB will win game 4, then this series will be close to being over.

I've also thought of this before, like every other season in the past. But let's take it that both teams really are great and they're playing accordingly.
These match-fixing is no longer a thing in the league and we've seen those players that have been involved with it but eventually those issues have died.

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Quote from: Ziskinberg on August 27, 2022, 04:18:51 AM

Game fixing is possible to make this a long series, if TNT wins game 4, the lowest possible games will be in 6 games. I like to believe in game fixing as well, so I'm with you on the prediction that TNT will win.

That was too much and you guys are disregarding TNT's talent, skills and chances of winning.

If they will win next game, that's already considered a product of game fixing?

Alright, maybe we just have to watched the game live and see for yourselves if there's something unusual on that game

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Quote from: Japinat on August 27, 2022, 05:27:23 AM

Game fixing does not only exist in sister companies, what if the whole league is fixed? But that's just speculation and I know bettors love to think that the outcome is based on a certain scenario, so in this game, we are seeing TNT winning game 4, if the fixed is real.

Those who will include game-fixing issues in the discussion here about the series is not really watching the game. Regardless if TNT will win next game or not, that's not part of the fixing. These professional players will not ruin their career for fix match.

PBA might be full of crap politics but if they will fix a game, that will just ruined their well-established reputation that being constructed for several decades. PBA legends and gurus are watching the league. If there's a confirm rigged match, they are the ones who will voiced out first.

There's a big difference between whole game-fixing and wrong/unusual/mistake officiating.

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Quote from: Hypnosis00 on August 27, 2022, 06:16:32 AM

I'm just hoping that my prediction is correct, but regardless, I will not regret betting on the TNT even if they lose. Game 4 will be the last time I will bet on the TNT if ever they lose the game, so they better win and take this series to game 7. Castro game winning last game failed, better luck next time THE BLUR.

I mentioned from my previous reply that Cruz really give him a tight defense with the height and speed he manages to make a good stop for Castro, but yes, If TNT's 3 super guards will workout this coming game 4 they can push for a longer series, watching the game last night gives me an idea that this rivalry is being seriously taken by both giant companies.

We have seen MVP and Al Francis Chua. Both are really watching the game and closely monitoring the referees. There's a big pressure, so for sure that game fixing might not be possible for these finals.

It's a rivalry and we see both squad are really fighting for the ball and trying to all the best for sake of winning the game.

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Quote from: Ziskinberg on August 27, 2022, 04:18:51 AM

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Quote from: Bttzed03 on August 27, 2022, 02:34:13 AM

Gotta give credit to the hustles of other Beermen too. We know the team is missing the production of T. Romeo but Ross and the other guys are stepping up. You never know who is going to come up with big shots at crucial moments.

They always play good defense, yes, no Romeo but they have Ross, Lassitter, and Perez. Also, they have more big men compared to the TNT, so in short they have a deep roster, and when Fajardo would always play like an MVP, no way the TNT will make it a close series.

Enough for the team to beat the TNT, however, it's still too early to conclude, they are only up 2-1, if TNT will win in game 4, then it will go to the best of 3 series. Well, I'm seeing more exciting times ahead, I'm now enticed to bet on TNT in game 4 as it's a must-win for them, hopefully, some game fixing will happen.

Game fixing is possible to make this a long series, if TNT wins game 4, the lowest possible games will be in 6 games. I like to believe in game fixing as well, so I'm with you on the prediction that TNT will win. Pogoy, Castro, and Williams, these are the big 3 that should contribute big time if they want to extend the series, because if SMB will win game 4, then this series will be close to being over.

I'm just hoping that my prediction is correct, but regardless, I will not regret betting on the TNT even if they lose. Game 4 will be the last time I will bet on the TNT if ever they lose the game, so they better win and take this series to game 7. Castro game winning last game failed, better luck next time THE BLUR.

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Quote from: jakelyson on August 27, 2022, 04:58:56 AM

Quote from: Ziskinberg on August 27, 2022, 04:18:51 AM

Game fixing is possible to make this a long series, if TNT wins game 4, the lowest possible games will be in 6 games. I like to believe in game fixing as well, so I'm with you on the prediction that TNT will win. Pogoy, Castro, and Williams, these are the big 3 that should contribute big time if they want to extend the series, because if SMB will win game 4, then this series will be close to being over.

This is not sister companies' fighting each other so they may not want to extend the series. Each team might want to finish this series as fast as possible.

Game fixing does not only exist in sister companies, what if the whole league is fixed? But that's just speculation and I know bettors love to think that the outcome is based on a certain scenario, so in this game, we are seeing TNT winning game 4, if the fixed is real.

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Quote from: harizen on August 26, 2022, 06:52:52 PM

I agree with you that Kudos to TNT for always giving an intense game with the powerhouse SMB. But still, not until either of them gets a 4 win, the series is not finished yet. TNT should consider Game 4 as their Do-Or-Die game and feels the pressure to win.

It is a do-or-die for them. If they do not win the next game, they will be down 3-1, and against a very dominating team like SMB, they will not be able to come back from that disadvantage. They have very little chance to come back from that and I am sure, SMB will not allow that to happen. Fortunately, I think their head coach will be back in Game 4, so maybe there will be better adjustments to counter SMB.

Quote from: Ziskinberg on August 27, 2022, 04:18:51 AM

Game fixing is possible to make this a long series, if TNT wins game 4, the lowest possible games will be in 6 games. I like to believe in game fixing as well, so I'm with you on the prediction that TNT will win. Pogoy, Castro, and Williams, these are the big 3 that should contribute big time if they want to extend the series, because if SMB will win game 4, then this series will be close to being over.

This is not sister companies' fighting each other so they may not want to extend the series. Each team might want to finish this series as fast as possible.

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Quote from: Hypnosis00 on August 27, 2022, 03:46:16 AM

Quote from: Sanitough on August 27, 2022, 02:55:25 AM

Quote from: Bttzed03 on August 27, 2022, 02:34:13 AM

Gotta give credit to the hustles of other Beermen too. We know the team is missing the production of T. Romeo but Ross and the other guys are stepping up. You never know who is going to come up with big shots at crucial moments.

They always play good defense, yes, no Romeo but they have Ross, Lassitter, and Perez. Also, they have more big men compared to the TNT, so in short they have a deep roster, and when Fajardo would always play like an MVP, no way the TNT will make it a close series.

Enough for the team to beat the TNT, however, it's still too early to conclude, they are only up 2-1, if TNT will win in game 4, then it will go to the best of 3 series. Well, I'm seeing more exciting times ahead, I'm now enticed to bet on TNT in game 4 as it's a must-win for them, hopefully, some game fixing will happen.

Game fixing is possible to make this a long series, if TNT wins game 4, the lowest possible games will be in 6 games. I like to believe in game fixing as well, so I'm with you on the prediction that TNT will win. Pogoy, Castro, and Williams, these are the big 3 that should contribute big time if they want to extend the series, because if SMB will win game 4, then this series will be close to being over.

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Quote from: Sanitough on August 27, 2022, 02:55:25 AM

Quote from: Bttzed03 on August 27, 2022, 02:34:13 AM

Gotta give credit to the hustles of other Beermen too. We know the team is missing the production of T. Romeo but Ross and the other guys are stepping up. You never know who is going to come up with big shots at crucial moments.

They always play good defense, yes, no Romeo but they have Ross, Lassitter, and Perez. Also, they have more big men compared to the TNT, so in short they have a deep roster, and when Fajardo would always play like an MVP, no way the TNT will make it a close series.

Enough for the team to beat the TNT, however, it's still too early to conclude, they are only up 2-1, if TNT will win in game 4, then it will go to the best of 3 series. Well, I'm seeing more exciting times ahead, I'm now enticed to bet on TNT in game 4 as it's a must-win for them, hopefully, some game fixing will happen.

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Quote from: Bttzed03 on August 27, 2022, 02:34:13 AM

Gotta give credit to the hustles of other Beermen too. We know the team is missing the production of T. Romeo but Ross and the other guys are stepping up. You never know who is going to come up with big shots at crucial moments.

They always play good defense, yes, no Romeo but they have Ross, Lassitter, and Perez. Also, they have more big men compared to the TNT, so in short they have a deep roster, and when Fajardo would always play like an MVP, no way the TNT will make it a close series.

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Quote from: Fredomago on August 27, 2022, 01:34:18 AM

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Is that a shot at Choket? Grin

Quote from: Fredomago on August 27, 2022, 01:34:18 AM

Though Fajardo is really the GOAT of PBA, no question about him, he's always showing his presence.

Rebounding, post moves, perimeter shooting, and even some side steps Grin

The best counter is to outrun him during transitions or if he's outside the paint.

Quote from: Fredomago on August 27, 2022, 01:34:18 AM

The reason why all the shooting guards are not afraid to take the shots, they know that Fajardo will be there to battle for the rebound and will try to keep the ball alive.

Exactly! If you're good at shooting and you have a reliable big man under, how could it not boost your confidence?

Gotta give credit to the hustles of other Beermen too. We know the team is missing the production of T. Romeo but Ross and the other guys are stepping up. You never know who is going to come up with big shots at crucial moments.

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Quote from: harizen on August 26, 2022, 06:52:52 PM

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27 points and 27 rebounds for Fajardo, how can you stop this big guy? They really did great job for this and almost dominating the game 3 but still kudos for TNT for giving a great fight as well.

I really don't mind and got surprised with his 27 points but for 27 rebounds, damn that was a spectacular big performance. It does mean that no one in the league right now that can dominate JuneMar Fajardo in terms of getting boards either on the offensive or defensive side. A considered GOAT in the PBA and future Hall of Famer, the Kraken is still making surprising good numbers even after his long hiatus in the league.

I agree with you that Kudos to TNT for always giving an intense game with the powerhouse SMB. But still, not until either of them gets a 4 win, the series is not finished yet. TNT should consider Game 4 as their Do-Or-Die game and feels the pressure to win.

TNT doesn't believe with a let go win, they keep on coming back even they are down and almost losing the game. Poguy, Castro and Williams are all doing their best offensive attacks not to let the fans down, I'm not a fan of TNT system but I admire these three leaders they will be there even the tight defense annoyed them but they will do everything to create the shots and give TNT the lift that they needed.

Though Fajardo is really the GOAT of PBA, no question about him, he's always showing his presence.

The reason why all the shooting guards are not afraid to take the shots, they know that Fajardo will be there to battle for the
rebound and will try to keep the ball alive.

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Quote from: samcrypto on August 26, 2022, 05:59:37 PM

27 points and 27 rebounds for Fajardo, how can you stop this big guy? They really did great job for this and almost dominating the game 3 but still kudos for TNT for giving a great fight as well.

I really don't mind and got surprised with his 27 points but for 27 rebounds, damn that was a spectacular big performance. It does mean that no one in the league right now that can dominate JuneMar Fajardo in terms of getting boards either on the offensive or defensive side. A considered GOAT in the PBA and future Hall of Famer, the Kraken is still making surprising good numbers even after his long hiatus in the league.

I agree with you that Kudos to TNT for always giving an intense game with the powerhouse SMB. But still, not until either of them gets a 4 win, the series is not finished yet. TNT should consider Game 4 as their Do-Or-Die game and feels the pressure to win.

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Quote from: Shamm on August 26, 2022, 09:48:19 AM

Maybe TNT need more or big adjustment for upcoming game 4 so that they can even the series .

There's no maybe but TNT really needs a big adjustment next game. Actually, they already played well overall although some of their key players are not on their usual averages. It's a battle of who will lack short in the end. It's good to see that all games so far in this series are tight and close.

We as a viewers wants that intensity of play and not to expect a boring game where one team is really dominating over the other.

The result is hard to predict until the final buzzer rings.

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