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Quote from: agustina2 on September 11, 2022, 01:34:02 PM

Quote from: blockman on September 11, 2022, 10:12:30 AM

I just wish him all the best with his career back to ROS and I guess he's got more control there than what he has left with NLEX.

Since Rain Or Shine has no sister teams, there should be no supposed hindrance on their future trades. I miss the strong ROS where in All-Filipino, they can compete competitively. It's good to see that Coach Yeng is again working in a team that has no sister teams. He is capable of extracting the very best of a certain player and can turned that into a good role player.

Although I think he is changed now and not that strict in practice. His bad mouthing for any errors that his players committed during the game is more of giving a determination rather than discouragement.

Well, he's famous for bad-mouthing his players but that's him and his part of the way of approach to his players. Basically, if a player sees it that he's been bad mouth, it's up to him whether he'll take that personally, as a way of encouragement and do better so no bad mouthing every official game or every practice game.

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Quote from: blockman on September 11, 2022, 10:12:30 AM

IIRC, he has mentioned that he's got really no power for those trades. And it's like a little expose' through his words but not that vulgar, sort of giving a hint with the trade that happens.
I just wish him all the best with his career back to ROS and I guess he's got more control there than what he has left with NLEX.

It is not really an expose if everybody knows that some teams are farm teams of bigger teams. But I think it is the first time that I heard a coach speak it out loud. And it is sad that PBA is tolerating one-sided trades. I guess because only a few teams can attract large crowds in their games like Ginebra, San Miguel, and the like. PBA let them do this because they know that their tickets will sell out if these teams play in the playoffs and especially in the finals. But it is also detrimental to the competitiveness of the league because, at some point, you already know which teams will make it to the finals, and which have the highest percentage of winning.

He's just well spoken and there's no hindrance that he had told it vulgar to everybody and that's why he's one of the best coach out there.

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Quote from: blockman on September 11, 2022, 10:12:30 AM

IIRC, he has mentioned that he's got really no power for those trades. And it's like a little expose' through his words but not that vulgar, sort of giving a hint with the trade that happens.
I just wish him all the best with his career back to ROS and I guess he's got more control there than what he has left with NLEX.

It is not really an expose if everybody knows that some teams are farm teams of bigger teams. But I think it is the first time that I heard a coach speak it out loud. And it is sad that PBA is tolerating one-sided trades. I guess because only a few teams can attract large crowds in their games like Ginebra, San Miguel, and the like. PBA let them do this because they know that their tickets will sell out if these teams play in the playoffs and especially in the finals. But it is also detrimental to the competitiveness of the league because, at some point, you already know which teams will make it to the finals, and which have the highest percentage of winning.

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Quote from: blockman on September 11, 2022, 10:12:30 AM

I just wish him all the best with his career back to ROS and I guess he's got more control there than what he has left with NLEX.

Since Rain Or Shine has no sister teams, there should be no supposed hindrance on their future trades. I miss the strong ROS where in All-Filipino, they can compete competitively. It's good to see that Coach Yeng is again working in a team that has no sister teams. He is capable of extracting the very best of a certain player and can turned that into a good role player.

Although I think he is changed now and not that strict in practice. His bad mouthing for any errors that his players committed during the game is more of giving a determination rather than discouragement.

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Quote from: harizen on September 10, 2022, 06:36:11 PM

Quote from: blockman on September 10, 2022, 04:14:20 PM

I'll just share what I've seen in a post from a basketball page that the coach that will replace Yeng for NLEX is going to be none other than Chot's son, Josh.
Well, the management isn't naming him yet due to the fact that he's still in the hot issue that the father and son have taken it. If this is going to be true, then everyone is already going to smell the connection between the two teams. So, we're going to have that sister team again and likely that these two would be open for trades and, might be just exclusive to them.

Regardless of who's the coach, NLEX will always be a farm team for TNT. They are sister teams alongside Meralco under the MVP group of companies.

There is already a series of exchanges happened between NLEX and TNT that involves a big fish.

The most notables are:

- Paul Erram from NLEX to TNT
- Mikey Williams (which Coach Yeng got surprised as he believes that this guy will play for NLEX)

In other words, even with how influential and reputable Coach Yeng is, he doesn't have the power to influence the trade for the sake of improving the NLEX roster according to his own will. It's better to leave NLEX out if he wants to continue his coaching career.

IIRC, he has mentioned that he's got really no power for those trades. And it's like a little expose' through his words but not that vulgar, sort of giving a hint with the trade that happens.
I just wish him all the best with his career back to ROS and I guess he's got more control there than what he has left with NLEX.

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Quote from: Fredomago on September 11, 2022, 09:07:48 AM

Nothing against Ginebra and I agree that Brownlee really bring boost to this team, that's why they keep having him from time to time. But if SMB will play the same hypes that they've shown last all-Filipino cup, I can say that they still have the upper hand, they've got two imports as the other team needs to take care of Fajardo while the real import will make the damages in terms of offensive productions.

Import plays a very important role on tournament that have import because Filipino players is no match against import on 1 on 1 and also they have most of the FGA attempt. Team that usually win the championship on tournament with import are those with a very effective import like Ginebra which Brownlee is always reliable and consistent on finishing the tournament to victory unlike other import that usually choke on the Finals.

I believe Brownlee is still the despite he is not that explosive during regular games since he is always showing a very dominant performance in and out when Ginebra needed him the most.

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Quote from: Russlenat on September 11, 2022, 05:29:56 AM

Quote from: Ziskinberg on September 11, 2022, 02:02:03 AM

NLEX wasn't really a popular team. It's always the TNT or Meralco which usually goes to the finals, so they don't need a good coach I believe. Well, coach Yeng was good but I think he was not given everything he needs, the reason why his team was underperforming.

Agree with that as they didn't make it to the NBA Finals, so there's not much to expect from this team.

The popular teams in the NBA are as follows based IMO.

1-SMB
2-Ginebra
3-Magnolia

4-TNT
5-Meralco

NLEX supposed to be popular so both owners will have 3 teams that are a championship contender.

This is PBA mate, we are still far from the level of NBA. Grin

Anyway, NLEX is indeed not a good team considering their previous standing but of course having a good coach in your team can still make a good difference all they have to do is to find a good players and once they have it, they should start creating a more effective strategy that can actually compete with those top teams. I believe they still have the chance, and it's actually good to see new names in the finals and hoping that NLEX can be on that level someday. Let's see how that changes affect the team on their upcoming games, NLEX should prepare more if they really want to get at least a semi-final spot.

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Quote from: Russlenat on September 11, 2022, 05:29:56 AM

Quote from: Ziskinberg on September 11, 2022, 02:02:03 AM

NLEX wasn't really a popular team. It's always the TNT or Meralco which usually goes to the finals, so they don't need a good coach I believe. Well, coach Yeng was good but I think he was not given everything he needs, the reason why his team was underperforming.

Agree with that as they didn't make it to the NBA Finals, so there's not much to expect from this team.

The popular teams in the NBA are as follows based IMO.

1-SMB
2-Ginebra
3-Magnolia

4-TNT
5-Meralco

NLEX supposed to be popular so both owners will have 3 teams that are a championship contender.

Hey Yo' Kabayan, it was PBA I know it's just a typo error but just to make sure for those who are not familiar with our local basketball league, and I agree with your selections, those 2 giant companies owns those well-known franchise and they are keep dominating the league. They've got the money and the influence so they are really doing well in manipulating trades.

Coach Yeng voices it out, but jut like a gossip nothing happened as the commisioners are out of hands touching those big bosses.

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Quote from: Yamifoud on September 11, 2022, 06:19:15 AM

That's fair for the NLEX, but they weren't really that consistent though. Anyway, do you think KJ McDaniels will still come back as an import of any PBA team? I like to see him as he can compete with Justin Brownlee, because if not, I'm afraid, Brownlee will still win as the best import.

I also miss Durham which was the best import of Meralco.

NLEX would be bringing in Earl Clark as import this coming Commissioner Cup so I think KJ McDaniels will be out of the picture unless someone needs to be replaced but I doubt McDaniels is available, he should have been the first choice for NLEX as an import. Brownlee will always be the favorite to win the best import because of the complements the locals give to him, I mean in an AFC Ginebra is a title contender, and bringing him in will only make Ginebra stronger but we have to see first how the imports of TNT and SMB perform as these teams are also the team to beat this conference especially now that Junemar is healthy.

Nothing against Ginebra and I agree that Brownlee really bring boost to this team, that's why they keep having him from time to time. But if SMB will play the same hypes that they've shown last all-Filipino cup, I can say that they still have the upper hand, they've got two imports as the other team needs to take care of Fajardo while the real import will make the damages in terms of offensive productions.

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Quote from: Yamifoud on September 11, 2022, 06:19:15 AM

That's fair for the NLEX, but they weren't really that consistent though. Anyway, do you think KJ McDaniels will still come back as an import of any PBA team? I like to see him as he can compete with Justin Brownlee, because if not, I'm afraid, Brownlee will still win as the best import.

I also miss Durham which was the best import of Meralco.

NLEX would be bringing in Earl Clark as import this coming Commissioner Cup so I think KJ McDaniels will be out of the picture unless someone needs to be replaced but I doubt McDaniels is available, he should have been the first choice for NLEX as an import. Brownlee will always be the favorite to win the best import because of the complements the locals give to him, I mean in an AFC Ginebra is a title contender, and bringing him in will only make Ginebra stronger but we have to see first how the imports of TNT and SMB perform as these teams are also the team to beat this conference especially now that Junemar is healthy.

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Quote from: Japinat on September 11, 2022, 06:06:39 AM

Quote from: harizen on September 11, 2022, 06:03:34 AM

Quote from: Ziskinberg on September 11, 2022, 02:02:03 AM

NLEX wasn't really a popular team. It's always the TNT or Meralco which usually goes to the finals, so they don't need a good coach I believe. Well, coach Yeng was good but I think he was not given everything he needs, the reason why his team was underperforming.

Actually, NLEX has a big chance making it to the Finals last season in the Governors Cup because of their import KJ McDaniels. As mentioned by other user here previously, KJ McDaniels were unable to finish his playing career in NLEX because of the delays that surely affected his own timeline to follow. He is averaging a monster stats on that conference and a top candidate as a Best Import if only he able to finished his tenure.

Aside from that, NLEX finished 2nd on that conference and still secures the twice-to-beat advantages in the playoffs even the team faced several problems like, best cager Jericho Cruz rejects the NLEX offer and choose to signed with SMB, Kiefer Ravena leaving the team for his Japan stint, Calvin Oftana's season ending injury and lastly, KJ McDaniels decision t return home.

KJ McDaniels leaving the team was the huge factor for the team to struggle. They have built a chemistry and we can really tell how dominant KJ McDaniels is as an import, saw him before in other team, and he played better with NLEX, it's just unfortunate, they could have a chance to reach the NBA Finals as I think Fajardo that time was still injured or not 100%.

That's fair for the NLEX, but they weren't really that consistent though. Anyway, do you think KJ McDaniels will still come back as an import of any PBA team? I like to see him as he can compete with Justin Brownlee, because if not, I'm afraid, Brownlee will still win as the best import.

I also miss Durham which was the best import of Meralco.

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Quote from: harizen on September 11, 2022, 06:03:34 AM

Quote from: Ziskinberg on September 11, 2022, 02:02:03 AM

NLEX wasn't really a popular team. It's always the TNT or Meralco which usually goes to the finals, so they don't need a good coach I believe. Well, coach Yeng was good but I think he was not given everything he needs, the reason why his team was underperforming.

Actually, NLEX has a big chance making it to the Finals last season in the Governors Cup because of their import KJ McDaniels. As mentioned by other user here previously, KJ McDaniels were unable to finish his playing career in NLEX because of the delays that surely affected his own timeline to follow. He is averaging a monster stats on that conference and a top candidate as a Best Import if only he able to finished his tenure.

Aside from that, NLEX finished 2nd on that conference and still secures the twice-to-beat advantages in the playoffs even the team faced several problems like, best cager Jericho Cruz rejects the NLEX offer and choose to signed with SMB, Kiefer Ravena leaving the team for his Japan stint, Calvin Oftana's season ending injury and lastly, KJ McDaniels decision t return home.

KJ McDaniels leaving the team was the huge factor for the team to struggle. They have built a chemistry and we can really tell how dominant KJ McDaniels is as an import, saw him before in other team, and he played better with NLEX, it's just unfortunate, they could have a chance to reach the NBA Finals as I think Fajardo that time was still injured or not 100%.

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Quote from: Ziskinberg on September 11, 2022, 02:02:03 AM

NLEX wasn't really a popular team. It's always the TNT or Meralco which usually goes to the finals, so they don't need a good coach I believe. Well, coach Yeng was good but I think he was not given everything he needs, the reason why his team was underperforming.

Actually, NLEX has a big chance making it to the Finals last season in the Governors Cup because of their import KJ McDaniels. As mentioned by other user here previously, KJ McDaniels were unable to finish his playing career in NLEX because of the delays that surely affected his own timeline to follow. He is averaging a monster stats on that conference and a top candidate as a Best Import if only he able to finished his tenure.

Aside from that, NLEX finished 2nd on that conference and still secures the twice-to-beat advantages in the playoffs even the team faced several problems like, best cager Jericho Cruz rejects the NLEX offer and choose to signed with SMB, Kiefer Ravena leaving the team for his Japan stint, Calvin Oftana's season ending injury and lastly, KJ McDaniels decision t return home.

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Quote from: Ziskinberg on September 11, 2022, 02:02:03 AM

NLEX wasn't really a popular team. It's always the TNT or Meralco which usually goes to the finals, so they don't need a good coach I believe. Well, coach Yeng was good but I think he was not given everything he needs, the reason why his team was underperforming.

Agree with that as they didn't make it to the NBA Finals, so there's not much to expect from this team.

The popular teams in the NBA are as follows based IMO.

1-SMB
2-Ginebra
3-Magnolia

4-TNT
5-Meralco

NLEX supposed to be popular so both owners will have 3 teams that are a championship contender.

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Quote from: harizen on September 10, 2022, 06:36:11 PM

Quote from: blockman on September 10, 2022, 04:14:20 PM

I'll just share what I've seen in a post from a basketball page that the coach that will replace Yeng for NLEX is going to be none other than Chot's son, Josh.
Well, the management isn't naming him yet due to the fact that he's still in the hot issue that the father and son have taken it. If this is going to be true, then everyone is already going to smell the connection between the two teams. So, we're going to have that sister team again and likely that these two would be open for trades and, might be just exclusive to them.

Regardless of who's the coach, NLEX will always be a farm team for TNT. They are sister teams alongside Meralco under the MVP group of companies.

There is already a series of exchanges happened between NLEX and TNT that involves a big fish.

The most notables are:

- Paul Erram from NLEX to TNT
- Mikey Williams (which Coach Yeng got surprised as he believes that this guy will play for NLEX)

In other words, even with how influential and reputable Coach Yeng is, he doesn't have the power to influence the trade for the sake of improving the NLEX roster according to his own will. It's better to leave NLEX out if he wants to continue his coaching career.

NLEX wasn't really a popular team. It's always the TNT or Meralco which usually goes to the finals, so they don't need a good coach I believe. Well, coach Yeng was good but I think he was not given everything he needs, the reason why his team was underperforming.

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Quote from: blockman on September 10, 2022, 04:14:20 PM

I'll just share what I've seen in a post from a basketball page that the coach that will replace Yeng for NLEX is going to be none other than Chot's son, Josh.
Well, the management isn't naming him yet due to the fact that he's still in the hot issue that the father and son have taken it. If this is going to be true, then everyone is already going to smell the connection between the two teams. So, we're going to have that sister team again and likely that these two would be open for trades and, might be just exclusive to them.

Regardless of who's the coach, NLEX will always be a farm team for TNT. They are sister teams alongside Meralco under the MVP group of companies.

There is already a series of exchanges happened between NLEX and TNT that involves a big fish.

The most notables are:

- Paul Erram from NLEX to TNT
- Mikey Williams (which Coach Yeng got surprised as he believes that this guy will play for NLEX)

In other words, even with how influential and reputable Coach Yeng is, he doesn't have the power to influence the trade for the sake of improving the NLEX roster according to his own will. It's better to leave NLEX out if he wants to continue his coaching career.

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Quote from: Johnyz on September 10, 2022, 04:53:28 PM

Quote from: blockman on September 10, 2022, 04:14:20 PM

I'll just share what I've seen in a post from a basketball page that the coach that will replace Yeng for NLEX is going to be none other than Chot's son, Josh.
Well, the management isn't naming him yet due to the fact that he's still in the hot issue that the father and son have taken it. If this is going to be true, then everyone is already going to smell the connection between the two teams. So, we're going to have that sister team again and likely that these two would be open for trades and, might be just exclusive to them.

Another rumor though, I thought the assistant coach of NLEX already get the signal to coach the team for at least a year. Well, another Reyes in the league most probably it can create that speculation and that connection as a sister team. Most probably the Josh is trying to make his own name in PBA since his dad is quiet old now and can now have his retirement.

Yes, it's another rumor that I've just read. And whatever Josh will do, I don't think that he'll ever make a name for himself. There will always be a connection from his father up to both of their careers and to the issues that they're part of.

Quote from: Johnyz on September 10, 2022, 04:53:28 PM

Let’s see if NLEX will settle for that and wait for their final announce with regards to this.

We'll have to wait if that's for real or not.

Quote from: jakelyson on September 10, 2022, 05:35:39 PM

I believe Adonis Tierra is named interim head coach until a new head coach is found. Meaning he can still be replaced as head coach. The rumor that Josh Reyes as the head coach of NLEX can still be true. We know how close they are to MVP. And if this is true, it may be a way to groom him as the new coach of Gilas too. I am just speculating here but it is not very far from the truth given how favored they are with MVP.

Connections after connections even if there's a lack of experience, still, having that closeness to the management will hit him the work as the new coach. Still, we'll wait for the official one.

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Quote from: blockman on September 10, 2022, 04:14:20 PM

I'll just share what I've seen in a post from a basketball page that the coach that will replace Yeng for NLEX is going to be none other than Chot's son, Josh.
Well, the management isn't naming him yet due to the fact that he's still in the hot issue that the father and son have taken it. If this is going to be true, then everyone is already going to smell the connection between the two teams. So, we're going to have that sister team again and likely that these two would be open for trades and, might be just exclusive to them.

Another rumor though, I thought the assistant coach of NLEX already get the signal to coach the team for at least a year. Well, another Reyes in the league most probably it can create that speculation and that connection as a sister team. Most probably the Josh is trying to make his own name in PBA since his dad is quiet old now and can now have his retirement. Let’s see if NLEX will settle for that and wait for their final announce with regards to this.

I believe Adonis Tierra is named interim head coach until a new head coach is found. Meaning he can still be replaced as head coach. The rumor that Josh Reyes as the head coach of NLEX can still be true. We know how close they are to MVP. And if this is true, it may be a way to groom him as the new coach of Gilas too. I am just speculating here but it is not very far from the truth given how favored they are with MVP.

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Quote from: Fredomago on September 10, 2022, 09:46:24 AM

Unlike now, they are full of I don't know how to describe but with coach Yeng, he might bring more competitiveness with those young stars

It would be nice to see more from Nambatac, knowing the style of coach Yeng he will give motivations and allow his players to bring all the best that they've got.

This is probably the reason why Coach Yeng is hired back to ROS. Since Coach Yeng had previously brought ROS to a championship and I think 5- 6 finals appearances, the management is hoping that Coach Yeng can tap the potential of these "you don't know how to describe stuff" players and make the ROS team more competitive in the coming cup.

Quote from: Fredomago on September 10, 2022, 09:46:24 AM

He only got three former players, Belga, Norwood and Ponferada not sure if though with Ponferada but for Belga and Norwood they are part of RoS championship caliber squad

I believe Ponferrada is part of the ROS Commissioners Cup's championship squad.

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Quote from: blockman on September 10, 2022, 04:14:20 PM

I'll just share what I've seen in a post from a basketball page that the coach that will replace Yeng for NLEX is going to be none other than Chot's son, Josh.
Well, the management isn't naming him yet due to the fact that he's still in the hot issue that the father and son have taken it. If this is going to be true, then everyone is already going to smell the connection between the two teams. So, we're going to have that sister team again and likely that these two would be open for trades and, might be just exclusive to them.

Another rumor though, I thought the assistant coach of NLEX already get the signal to coach the team for at least a year. Well, another Reyes in the league most probably it can create that speculation and that connection as a sister team. Most probably the Josh is trying to make his own name in PBA since his dad is quiet old now and can now have his retirement. Let’s see if NLEX will settle for that and wait for their final announce with regards to this.

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I'll just share what I've seen in a post from a basketball page that the coach that will replace Yeng for NLEX is going to be none other than Chot's son, Josh.
Well, the management isn't naming him yet due to the fact that he's still in the hot issue that the father and son have taken it. If this is going to be true, then everyone is already going to smell the connection between the two teams. So, we're going to have that sister team again and likely that these two would be open for trades and, might be just exclusive to them.

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Quote from: bisdak40 on September 09, 2022, 05:57:20 PM

Quote from: serjent05 on September 09, 2022, 05:21:08 PM

At least the chemistry between coach and players and other stuff is already there. It will only need a few adjustments from coach Yeng to fully utilize the talent of his players. Besides coach Yeng Guiao is already accustomed to his subordinate since Coach Yeng and Garcia have good chemistry during their coaching partnership days (Guiao being the head coach and Garcia as the assistant).

For sure the chemistry is still there but some of the players whom he trusted have been traded or moved to another team so this will be like starting from scratch for coach Yeng Guiao. I don't know what will be the complications of him vocally criticizing the PBA when he moved back to ROS. Does the league sanction him or heed his call for a transparent transaction of trades of these super-rich companies like SMC and MVP?

Even James Yap can't make ROS a competitive team this coming conference, he will be just there so ROS/PBA can formally retire him and give recognition to what he brought to the PBA.

He only got three former players, Belga, Norwood and Ponferada not sure if though with Ponferada but for Belga and Norwood they are part of RoS championship caliber squad, I used to remember when Chan and Lee was still in the lineup it's always entertaining to see them playing like the Badboys of the NBA, they are physical but very talented squads who don't fear any team.

Unlike now, they are full of I don't know how to describe but with coach Yeng, he might bring more competitiveness with those young stars

It would be nice to see more from Nambatac, knowing the style of coach Yeng he will give motivations and allow his players to bring all the best that they've got.

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