2022–23 PBA Commissioner's Cup - page 288.

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Quote from: ChiBitCTy on August 17, 2022, 10:18:23 AM

I’m honestly pretty surprised at how much discussion goes on in this thread. I have to be honest, I know next to nothing about this league so I want to ask, what is the appeal for you guys who do watch this league? Is this league compatible to the European league? Have there ever been any star players in this league who ended up going to the NBA ?

Just pure entertainment. Our country is one of the countries where basketball is very popular and the fact that PBA has been our professional basketball league for decades makes us happy watching it.

In terms of our league comparing to those with European leagues, it's very far and I think it's not comparable anymore. The Europeans are better then the PH players in some ways.

In terms of any star players who ended up going to the NBA, there are no full-blooded Filipino player who joined the NBA (our native Kai Sotto tried in the recent NBA drafted but remained undrafted) but there are some NBA players who are half-blooded Filipino like Jordan Clarkson, Jalen Green and Andre Blatche.

We have the passion but we don't have the built, most of the Filipino Basketball players like in the PBA are not really tall compared to the American and European players, and we all know that height is might, so we will really struggle against taller opponents.

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Quote from: ChiBitCTy on August 17, 2022, 10:18:23 AM

I’m honestly pretty surprised at how much discussion goes on in this thread. I have to be honest, I know next to nothing about this league so I want to ask, what is the appeal for you guys who do watch this league? Is this league compatible to the European league? Have there ever been any star players in this league who ended up going to the NBA ?

Just pure entertainment. Our country is one of the countries where basketball is very popular and the fact that PBA has been our professional basketball league for decades makes us happy watching it.

In terms of our league comparing to those with European leagues, it's very far and I think it's not comparable anymore. The Europeans are better then the PH players in some ways.

In terms of any star players who ended up going to the NBA, there are no full-blooded Filipino player who joined the NBA (our native Kai Sotto tried in the recent NBA drafted but remained undrafted) but there are some NBA players who are half-blooded Filipino like Jordan Clarkson, Jalen Green and Andre Blatche.

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Quote from: ChiBitCTy on August 17, 2022, 10:18:23 AM

I’m honestly pretty surprised at how much discussion goes on in this thread. I have to be honest, I know next to nothing about this league so I want to ask, what is the appeal for you guys who do watch this league? Is this league compatible to the European league? Have there ever been any star players in this league who ended up going to the NBA ?

Just a Local League. A classic league and the first official basketball league in Asia. Can't compare to the European league in general.

The reputation was already built since then that's why the PH community especially basketball enthusiasts follows the league.

We just used on watching PBA when we are growing up.

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Quote from: ChiBitCTy on August 17, 2022, 10:18:23 AM

I’m honestly pretty surprised at how much discussion goes on in this thread. I have to be honest, I know next to nothing about this league so I want to ask, what is the appeal for you guys who do watch this league? Is this league compatible to the European league? Have there ever been any star players in this league who ended up going to the NBA ?

First of all, thanks for dropping by on this thread.

You know, basketball is like a religion on our country but the irony is that our genes is not made for this sports Grin

, i mean we are not too tall compare to Americans or Europeans but we are very passionate on this sport in fact you can see makeshift basketball court wherever you go in this country.

Also this PBA is the first professional league that was established in Asia and the most exciting part of this PBA is many people enjoy betting on this game but it is done illegally, meaning that most of it don't pay taxes to the government.

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Quote from: jakelyson on August 17, 2022, 10:32:37 AM

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Quote from: Kelvinid on August 17, 2022, 05:17:32 AM

As expected, SMB is having a good start, if they will continue their dominance, then there's no doubt they will advance to the Finals. 6-20 is the current score, they could extend this lead if they will continue with their great defense and impressive offence.

Final score 100-89. SMB beat Meralco by 11 points.

Good at least SMB give his fans a good win, hehehehe. I thought that it is going to be close, but I guess Meralco doesn't have the legs anymore specially when the SMB has a good start and as much as the Bolts trying to make a comeback, SMB was too much. So another finals for SMB, I wouldn't be surprised if they are the favorite in the finals series against TNT. Nevertheless, it will be another great matchup, and we will see who will win as this could be a battle of adjustments.

As I watched this playoff unfold, I am convinced that TNT has an upper hand in this Finals series. They have very prolific scorers in Mikey William and Pugoy. And with Castro, a veteran, on the helm guiding them, they can be a very strong opponent for SMB. But we will see what adjustments the coaches will have to counter the strength of their opponents. I predict this will go the distance, maybe another epic Game 7 in the making.

As a good fan of SMB I can say that a game 7 is really possible, though just like what you have said those guards are the edge of TNT but I think SMB do have enough defenders who can compete with those stars that TNT have, it's just a matter of how players will blend together inside the ring and how the coaches will bring in the right re-enforcement to give some rest to their stars.

We will see what kind of adjustments both teams have when they face each other in the finals. Good luck to everyone!

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Quote from: Baofeng on August 17, 2022, 10:09:22 AM

Quote from: Botnake on August 17, 2022, 06:29:41 AM

Quote from: Kelvinid on August 17, 2022, 05:17:32 AM

As expected, SMB is having a good start, if they will continue their dominance, then there's no doubt they will advance to the Finals. 6-20 is the current score, they could extend this lead if they will continue with their great defense and impressive offence.

Final score 100-89. SMB beat Meralco by 11 points.

Good at least SMB give his fans a good win, hehehehe. I thought that it is going to be close, but I guess Meralco doesn't have the legs anymore specially when the SMB has a good start and as much as the Bolts trying to make a comeback, SMB was too much. So another finals for SMB, I wouldn't be surprised if they are the favorite in the finals series against TNT. Nevertheless, it will be another great matchup, and we will see who will win as this could be a battle of adjustments.

As I watched this playoff unfold, I am convinced that TNT has an upper hand in this Finals series. They have very prolific scorers in Mikey William and Pugoy. And with Castro, a veteran, on the helm guiding them, they can be a very strong opponent for SMB. But we will see what adjustments the coaches will have to counter the strength of their opponents. I predict this will go the distance, maybe another epic Game 7 in the making.

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I’m honestly pretty surprised at how much discussion goes on in this thread. I have to be honest, I know next to nothing about this league so I want to ask, what is the appeal for you guys who do watch this league? Is this league compatible to the European league? Have there ever been any star players in this league who ended up going to the NBA ?

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Quote from: Botnake on August 17, 2022, 06:29:41 AM

Quote from: Kelvinid on August 17, 2022, 05:17:32 AM

As expected, SMB is having a good start, if they will continue their dominance, then there's no doubt they will advance to the Finals. 6-20 is the current score, they could extend this lead if they will continue with their great defense and impressive offence.

Final score 100-89. SMB beat Meralco by 11 points.

Good at least SMB give his fans a good win, hehehehe. I thought that it is going to be close, but I guess Meralco doesn't have the legs anymore specially when the SMB has a good start and as much as the Bolts trying to make a comeback, SMB was too much. So another finals for SMB, I wouldn't be surprised if they are the favorite in the finals series against TNT. Nevertheless, it will be another great matchup, and we will see who will win as this could be a battle of adjustments.

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Quote from: Hypnosis00 on August 17, 2022, 12:24:18 AM

This isn't an old SMB team, they have some veterans but they don't have a good point guard and supporting cast like Santos. Well, let's just see the outcome of this game, if SMB will lose, it will be a big disappointment of the fans for sure.

They did not disappoint their fans as they dominate the entire game 7 though Meralco did tried to rally but time isn't on their side, SMB will be facing TNT in the finals, a great matchup as both really have solid lineup. It will be MVP vs SMB, a familiar company that really dominates the entire league. A battle between coaches and system that they will going to use. Both squad need to maximize their offense and defense, tough to find the advantage, just my personal take. TNT might use William's advantage while SMB will be using Fajardo's inside.

We never know what will be there in the finals, but I'm looking to see good competition between these two rival companies!

And by the way congrats to all SMB backers, both ML and handicap win the bets.

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Quote from: Kelvinid on August 17, 2022, 05:17:32 AM

As expected, SMB is having a good start, if they will continue their dominance, then there's no doubt they will advance to the Finals. 6-20 is the current score, they could extend this lead if they will continue with their great defense and impressive offence.

SMB is doing great in This game from the first quarter to 4rth quarter they manage the lead and as we saw in earlier Meralco had no chance to make the game to a close game but they can't do that because the defense of the SMB is to tight for their offense.
As expected the outcome is the same SMB win the game and advance to the finals which is they need to face the tough opponent TNT.

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Quote from: Kelvinid on August 17, 2022, 05:17:32 AM

As expected, SMB is having a good start, if they will continue their dominance, then there's no doubt they will advance to the Finals. 6-20 is the current score, they could extend this lead if they will continue with their great defense and impressive offence.

Meralco still can't make a big run, 46-63, they need to play harder just to make the SMB lead down to a single digit.

Can't believe what I'm seeing, looks like we are having a boring game 7, as most game 7 are close games.
Anyway, good luck, seemed will be in the Finals with the way the game is going.

Final score 100-89. SMB beat Meralco by 11 points.

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As expected, SMB is having a good start, if they will continue their dominance, then there's no doubt they will advance to the Finals. 6-20 is the current score, they could extend this lead if they will continue with their great defense and impressive offence.

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Quote from: bisdak40 on August 16, 2022, 04:20:59 PM

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Quote from: Natalim on August 16, 2022, 06:27:10 AM

The odds are still the same, it's already out now, you can check on your bookies.

SMB is -5.5 and the over/under is 190.5.
Moneyline for Meralco is 2.70, that's quite attractive.

In the last 3 losses of Meralco, they only covered 1, so if they lose in this game, I think they won't cover the spread. There's a reason why the spread is high, most probably SMB will via in a dominant passion to avenge their losses in game 6. Expect JMF getting plenty of minutes, it's a do or die game, so he would only rest for a while.

I'm also thinking the same but still, we never knew the outcome of the game until it's over. Junemar for sure will play heavy minutes in this game but they still have to manage his minutes properly to avoid being gassed out in the championship minutes in a game 7. I'm also inclined that SMB will win in a convincing manner, CJ Perez must step up and play intelligently tonight.

Boy, this is what i've missed with the old Death Five of SMB, the generalship in the court of Cabagnot and those clutch three's Arwin would make in case Junemar is doubled down low.

This isn't an old SMB team, they have some veterans but they don't have a good point guard and supporting cast like Santos. Well, let's just see the outcome of this game, if SMB will lose, it will be a big disappointment of the fans for sure.

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Quote from: goinmerry on August 16, 2022, 06:41:06 PM

Quote from: Natalim on August 16, 2022, 06:27:10 AM

Moneyline for Meralco is 2.70, that's quite attractive.

If you want some expected boost and really think that Meralco might upset another SMC team, bet on live game and try to timing a risky spot where Meralco is behind by SMB with at least 10+ points. For sure, that line will improved to at least @7 but of course, it's risky.

But no pain, no gain. I'm sure those who risks on Meralco last game at the live bet is happy on their big win. I think only a few expect that Meralco will win on Game 6 as almost all the entire game, they are always behind.

It's a big choke if SMB will lose the Game 7. Expect a wide criticism for them if they will lose the series.

A big test now for SMB, after Meralco survives that game 6 they are now in a d0-or-die situation. Yes, if you are one of those who believes that Meralco can upset SMB, taking that risky bet during the live game will surely satisfied your support, though maybe there are some but for experienced gamblers taking the handicap for Meralco is already a good take.

Small profits with a better chance of winning will do. Just my opinion, though, always depends on how the gambler thinks about the outcome of the game.

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Quote from: Natalim on August 16, 2022, 06:27:10 AM

Moneyline for Meralco is 2.70, that's quite attractive.

If you want some expected boost and really think that Meralco might upset another SMC team, bet on live game and try to timing a risky spot where Meralco is behind by SMB with at least 10+ points. For sure, that line will improved to at least @7 but of course, it's risky.

But no pain, no gain. I'm sure those who risks on Meralco last game at the live bet is happy on their big win. I think only a few expect that Meralco will win on Game 6 as almost all the entire game, they are always behind.

It's a big choke if SMB will lose the Game 7. Expect a wide criticism for them if they will lose the series.

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Quote from: Hypnosis00 on August 16, 2022, 06:44:55 AM

Quote from: Natalim on August 16, 2022, 06:27:10 AM

The odds are still the same, it's already out now, you can check on your bookies.

SMB is -5.5 and the over/under is 190.5.
Moneyline for Meralco is 2.70, that's quite attractive.

In the last 3 losses of Meralco, they only covered 1, so if they lose in this game, I think they won't cover the spread. There's a reason why the spread is high, most probably SMB will via in a dominant passion to avenge their losses in game 6. Expect JMF getting plenty of minutes, it's a do or die game, so he would only rest for a while.

I'm also thinking the same but still, we never knew the outcome of the game until it's over. Junemar for sure will play heavy minutes in this game but they still have to manage his minutes properly to avoid being gassed out in the championship minutes in a game 7. I'm also inclined that SMB will win in a convincing manner, CJ Perez must step up and play intelligently tonight.

Boy, this is what i've missed with the old Death Five of SMB, the generalship in the court of Cabagnot and those clutch three's Arwin would make in case Junemar is doubled down low.

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Quote from: Hypnosis00 on August 16, 2022, 06:44:55 AM

Quote from: Natalim on August 16, 2022, 06:27:10 AM

The odds are still the same, it's already out now, you can check on your bookies.

SMB is -5.5 and the over/under is 190.5.
Moneyline for Meralco is 2.70, that's quite attractive.

In the last 3 losses of Meralco, they only covered 1, so if they lose in this game, I think they won't cover the spread. There's a reason why the spread is high, most probably SMB will via in a dominant passion to avenge their losses in game 6. Expect JMF getting plenty of minutes, it's a do or die game, so he would only rest for a while.

Nice analysis, but I'm thinking the opposite thing, Meralco beat them last game, they have the momentum now and yet they are given +5.5, I guess if I will bet now, I will bet on the + points as definitely Meralco will not just give this game away, they will play hard and try to upset the SMB.

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Quote from: Natalim on August 16, 2022, 06:27:10 AM

The odds are still the same, it's already out now, you can check on your bookies.

SMB is -5.5 and the over/under is 190.5.
Moneyline for Meralco is 2.70, that's quite attractive.

In the last 3 losses of Meralco, they only covered 1, so if they lose in this game, I think they won't cover the spread. There's a reason why the spread is high, most probably SMB will via in a dominant passion to avenge their losses in game 6. Expect JMF getting plenty of minutes, it's a do or die game, so he would only rest for a while.

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Quote from: Botnake on August 15, 2022, 09:07:24 AM

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I guess SMB will have to adjust their game, they can't just let Meralco takes over just like in game 6. Again, defense will be their key and I think they have the experience to do it, they just have to focus and concentrate on game 7. They can't let the Bolts snatch this series.

If the trend will continue, SMB is going to win in game 7. They wasted the opportunity to close the series in game 6, the big run of Meralco beat them, it cannot happen again in this do or die game for both teams.

That's where the excitement on PBA games is happening, who would expect that Meralco would win, they are a heavy underdog and yet they beat the SMB. I still like the chances of SMB in game 7, they are good in closing out games, but what I like more is the under as for sure it's gonna be a very defensive game.

Once you get to the semis you're no longer the underdog and winning 3 wins against SMB proves that Meralco is also a team to beat and going into game 7, the odds changes and this time many are willing to take risk to place their bet with Meralco. Game 6 is very convincing, Meralco did a great job and yes if SMB wants to be back in the finals they should adjust their strategy or else Meralco will beat them again and their effort will totally be wasted.

You have a point but it will not change the fact that SMB will always be listed as the favorite to win.

IIRC, the spread in game 6 was SMB -5.5, so if that would drop, maybe they will be the favorite by -3.5, but in the end, they are still listed as the favorite and the Meralco as the underdog.

The odds are still the same, it's already out now, you can check on your bookies.

SMB is -5.5 and the over/under is 190.5.
Moneyline for Meralco is 2.70, that's quite attractive.

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Quote from: crzy on August 15, 2022, 07:58:33 AM

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Quote from: Baofeng on August 15, 2022, 05:21:25 AM

I guess SMB will have to adjust their game, they can't just let Meralco takes over just like in game 6. Again, defense will be their key and I think they have the experience to do it, they just have to focus and concentrate on game 7. They can't let the Bolts snatch this series.

If the trend will continue, SMB is going to win in game 7. They wasted the opportunity to close the series in game 6, the big run of Meralco beat them, it cannot happen again in this do or die game for both teams.

That's where the excitement on PBA games is happening, who would expect that Meralco would win, they are a heavy underdog and yet they beat the SMB. I still like the chances of SMB in game 7, they are good in closing out games, but what I like more is the under as for sure it's gonna be a very defensive game.

Once you get to the semis you're no longer the underdog and winning 3 wins against SMB proves that Meralco is also a team to beat and going into game 7, the odds changes and this time many are willing to take risk to place their bet with Meralco. Game 6 is very convincing, Meralco did a great job and yes if SMB wants to be back in the finals they should adjust their strategy or else Meralco will beat them again and their effort will totally be wasted.

You have a point but it will not change the fact that SMB will always be listed as the favorite to win.

IIRC, the spread in game 6 was SMB -5.5, so if that would drop, maybe they will be the favorite by -3.5, but in the end, they are still listed as the favorite and the Meralco as the underdog.

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